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1. 07:05 AM - Re: infinity grips (Strasnuts)
2. 08:29 AM - Re: Re: infinity grips (Robin Marks)
3. 08:46 AM - Re: Re: infinity grips (Seano)
4. 10:48 AM - Re: Re: infinity grips (Sean Stephens)
5. 11:52 AM - Re: Re: infinity grips (Bill Watson)
6. 12:06 PM - Re: Re: infinity grips (Tim Olson)
7. 12:10 PM - Re: Re: infinity grips (Tim Olson)
8. 01:13 PM - Re: Re: infinity grips (Rene Felker)
9. 01:45 PM - Re: Re: infinity grips (Sean Stephens)
10. 03:51 PM - Re: infinity grips (orchidman)
11. 09:02 PM - Re: Re: infinity grips (Jesse Saint)
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| Subject: | Re: infinity grips |
When ordering my infinity from Aircraft Spruce I ran into, "AC with flap/brake
or AC without flap/brake." What does that mean? I know the RV-10 doesn't have
one but what am I changing in the switch configuration? Infinity Grip's web
sight is so convoluted and scattered I would rather use Aircraft Spruce.
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| Subject: | Re: infinity grips |
The infinity Grip site is a confusing mess. Calling Infinity when I ordered
my grips for the RV-4, RV-6A RV-10 and most recently my 8A was the exact
same song & grumbling dance. "Did you see the order form on the website" "*
Yes
but it was confusing and I didn=92t want to make a mistake in ordering*." T
hat
is how everyone of my conversations went with JD but in each case we went
through the choices & options and the ordering took about 20 minutes to get
exactly what I needed. Just understand what switch, button, toggle you want
including type of switch (momentary, push on/off) and of course what hand
orientation your grips should be. Don=92t forget the button switches are
available in different colors so decide ahead of time your AP disconnect
color vs. your Flip/Flop button color. Know ahead of time the amount of
wiring length you want because he sells the bundled wire by the foot. Once
you have completed the grip transaction be ready for the hard sell on his
engine pre-oiler and a few other items. I thanked him for the suggestions
but passed on those items. I think this the best & most accurate way to
order these grips. In the end I get what I need and have discussed the
choices with the most knowledgeable if occasionally a touch gruff developer
of the product.
"Best time to call is after 1400 CA California time, and evenings, at (619)
448-5103 ."
A note on the wiring. His bundle of wiring in the blue sleeve has a LOT of
wires in it. I think each wire has an associated ground wire. This bundle i
s
difficult to fish through the control stick. Don=92t flake out and run the
wires external to the stick. I suggest you eliminate most of the ground
wires that you don't need and fish the balance of the wires through the
stick. I call my set up "hillbilly wiring" but it works well and is much
cleaner than an external wiring job. BTW I am not saying it is impossible t
o
run the entire bundle through the stick, just very difficult. We finally
learned on the 8A the best technique.
[image: Stick wiring 002.jpg]
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:02 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: infinity grips
When ordering my infinity from Aircraft Spruce I ran into, "AC with
flap/brake or AC without flap/brake." What does that mean? I know the
RV-10 doesn't have one but what am I changing in the switch configuration?
Infinity Grip's web sight is so convoluted and scattered I would rather use
Aircraft Spruce.
--------
Cust. #40936
RV-10 SB Fuselage
N801VR reserved
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| Subject: | Re: infinity grips |
Thx Robin, That helps a lot!
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2010, at 9:25, Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
> The infinity Grip site is a confusing mess. Calling Infinity when I ordere
d my grips for the RV-4, RV-6A RV-10 and most recently my 8A was the exact s
ame song & grumbling dance. "Did you see the order form on the website" "Yes
but it was confusing and I didn=99t want to make a mistake in orderin
g." That is how everyone of my conversations went with JD but in each case w
e went through the choices & options and the ordering took about 20 minutes t
o get exactly what I needed. Just understand what switch, button, toggle you
want including type of switch (momentary, push on/off) and of course what h
and orientation your grips should be. Don=99t forget the button switch
es are available in different colors so decide ahead of time your AP disconn
ect color vs. your Flip/Flop button color. Know ahead of time the amount of w
iring length you want because he sells the bundled wire by the foot. Once yo
u have completed the grip transaction be ready for the hard sell on his engi
ne pre-oiler and a few other items. I thanked him for the suggestions but pa
ssed on those items. I think this the best & most accurate way to order thes
e grips. In the end I get what I need and have discussed the choices with th
e most knowledgeable if occasionally a touch gruff developer of the product.
>
>
>
> "Best time to call is after 1400 CA California time, and evenings, at (619
) 448-5103 ."
>
>
>
> A note on the wiring. His bundle of wiring in the blue sleeve has a LOT of
wires in it. I think each wire has an associated ground wire. This bundle i
s difficult to fish through the control stick. Don=99t flake out and r
un the wires external to the stick. I suggest you eliminate most of the grou
nd wires that you don't need and fish the balance of the wires through the s
tick. I call my set up "hillbilly wiring" but it works well and is much clea
ner than an external wiring job. BTW I am not saying it is impossible to run
the entire bundle through the stick, just very difficult. We finally learne
d on the 8A the best technique.
>
>
>
> <image002.jpg>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:02 AM
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> Subject: RV10-List: Re: infinity grips
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> When ordering my infinity from Aircraft Spruce I ran into, "AC with flap/b
rake or AC without flap/brake." What does that mean? I know the RV-10 does
n't have one but what am I changing in the switch configuration? Infinity G
rip's web sight is so convoluted and scattered I would rather use Aircraft S
pruce.
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| Subject: | Re: infinity grips |
I'm guessing here, but on the Aircraft Spruce site, I am assuming that
with or without flaps is referring to either a toggle switch or a button
in the one position beside the coolie hat.
I agree on Infinity's website. If there was another vendor that offered
just one more button than the Ray Allen G307, I'd have gone to them in
the blink of an eye. It's brutal trying to get around that site.
If anyone knows of an ambidextrous grip with just one stinkin' more
button than the Ray Allen G307 has. I'm wondering if there would be any
way for me to add another button to the G307?
-Sean #40303
>
> <mailto:sean@braunandco.com>>
>
> When ordering my infinity from Aircraft Spruce I ran into, "AC with
> flap/brake or AC without flap/brake." What does that mean? I know
> the RV-10 doesn't have one but what am I changing in the switch
> configuration? Infinity Grip's web sight is so convoluted and
> scattered I would rather use Aircraft Spruce.
>
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> Cust. #40936
>
> RV-10 SB Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: infinity grips |
Does the Tosten come up short? It's what I've installed.
http://www.tostenmanufacturing.com/catalog/aircraft-grips/cs-8-aircraft-grip.html
Bill "waiting for painting temps" Watson
On 12/18/2010 1:44 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
>
> I'm guessing here, but on the Aircraft Spruce site, I am assuming that
> with or without flaps is referring to either a toggle switch or a
> button in the one position beside the coolie hat.
>
> I agree on Infinity's website. If there was another vendor that
> offered just one more button than the Ray Allen G307, I'd have gone to
> them in the blink of an eye. It's brutal trying to get around that site.
>
> If anyone knows of an ambidextrous grip with just one stinkin' more
> button than the Ray Allen G307 has. I'm wondering if there would be
> any way for me to add another button to the G307?
>
>
> -Sean #40303
>
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| Subject: | Re: infinity grips |
Actually, I would recommend ordering direct. You could
call them and they'll help you figure out what you need
based on what you want. I wouldn't order that part
3rd party. I remember going through that order sheet
myself.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 12/18/2010 9:02 AM, Strasnuts wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Strasnuts"<sean@braunandco.com>
>
> When ordering my infinity from Aircraft Spruce I ran into, "AC with
> flap/brake or AC without flap/brake." What does that mean? I know
> the RV-10 doesn't have one but what am I changing in the switch
> configuration? Infinity Grip's web sight is so convoluted and
> scattered I would rather use Aircraft Spruce.
>
> -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved
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| Subject: | Re: infinity grips |
I left all wires as-in, in the blue sheath, and was able to run
the blue sheath through the stick so that it exits the stick
under the seats. I think it's nice having that thick chafe
protection on the wires.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 12/18/2010 10:25 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
> The infinity Grip site is a confusing mess. Calling Infinity when I
> ordered my grips for the RV-4, RV-6A RV-10 and most recently my 8A was
> the exact same song & grumbling dance. "Did you see the order form on
> the website" "_Yes but it was confusing and I didnt want to make a
> mistake in ordering_." That is how everyone of my conversations went
> with JD but in each case we went through the choices & options and the
> ordering took about 20 minutes to get exactly what I needed. Just
> understand what switch, button, toggle you want including type of switch
> (momentary, push on/off) and of course what hand orientation your grips
> should be. Dont forget the button switches are available in different
> colors so decide ahead of time your AP disconnect color vs. your
> Flip/Flop button color. Know ahead of time the amount of wiring length
> you want because he sells the bundled wire by the foot. Once you have
> completed the grip transaction be ready for the hard sell on his engine
> pre-oiler and a few other items. I thanked him for the suggestions but
> passed on those items. I think this the best & most accurate way to
> order these grips. In the end I get what I need and have discussed the
> choices with the most knowledgeable if occasionally a touch gruff
> developer of the product.
>
> "Best time to call is after 1400 CA California time, and evenings, at
> (619) 448-5103 ."
>
> A note on the wiring. His bundle of wiring in the blue sleeve has a LOT
> of wires in it. I think each wire has an associated ground wire. This
> bundle is difficult to fish through the control stick. Dont flake out
> and run the wires external to the stick. I suggest you eliminate most of
> the ground wires that you don't need and fish the balance of the wires
> through the stick. I call my set up "hillbilly wiring" but it works well
> and is much cleaner than an external wiring job. BTW I am not saying it
> is impossible to run the entire bundle through the stick, just very
> difficult. We finally learned on the 8A the best technique.
>
> Stick wiring 002.jpg
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>] On Behalf Of Strasnuts
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:02 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: infinity grips
>
> <mailto:sean@braunandco.com>>
>
> When ordering my infinity from Aircraft Spruce I ran into, "AC with
> flap/brake or AC without flap/brake." What does that mean? I know the
> RV-10 doesn't have one but what am I changing in the switch
> configuration? Infinity Grip's web sight is so convoluted and scattered
> I would rather use Aircraft Spruce.
>
> --------
>
> Cust. #40936
>
> RV-10 SB Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: infinity grips |
But you lose some of the fighter pilot effect.....I love my infinity
grips.....
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: infinity grips
Does the Tosten come up short? It's what I've installed.
http://www.tostenmanufacturing.com/catalog/aircraft-grips/cs-8-aircraft-grip
.html
Bill "waiting for painting temps" Watson
On 12/18/2010 1:44 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
>
> I'm guessing here, but on the Aircraft Spruce site, I am assuming that
> with or without flaps is referring to either a toggle switch or a
> button in the one position beside the coolie hat.
>
> I agree on Infinity's website. If there was another vendor that
> offered just one more button than the Ray Allen G307, I'd have gone to
> them in the blink of an eye. It's brutal trying to get around that site.
>
> If anyone knows of an ambidextrous grip with just one stinkin' more
> button than the Ray Allen G307 has. I'm wondering if there would be
> any way for me to add another button to the G307?
>
>
> -Sean #40303
>
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| Subject: | Re: infinity grips |
I actually don't prefer the fighter style grip.
Unfortunately the Tosten is one button short for me just like the G307 is.
-Sean #40303
On 12/18/10 3:05 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker"<rene@felker.com>
>
> But you lose some of the fighter pilot effect.....I love my infinity
> grips.....
>
> Rene' Felker
> N423CF
> 801-721-6080
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 12:47 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: infinity grips
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Bill Watson<Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
>
> Does the Tosten come up short? It's what I've installed.
> http://www.tostenmanufacturing.com/catalog/aircraft-grips/cs-8-aircraft-grip
> .html
>
> Bill "waiting for painting temps" Watson
>
> On 12/18/2010 1:44 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens<sean@stephensville.com>
>>
>> I'm guessing here, but on the Aircraft Spruce site, I am assuming that
>> with or without flaps is referring to either a toggle switch or a
>> button in the one position beside the coolie hat.
>>
>> I agree on Infinity's website. If there was another vendor that
>> offered just one more button than the Ray Allen G307, I'd have gone to
>> them in the blink of an eye. It's brutal trying to get around that site.
>>
>> If anyone knows of an ambidextrous grip with just one stinkin' more
>> button than the Ray Allen G307 has. I'm wondering if there would be
>> any way for me to add another button to the G307?
>>
>>
>> -Sean #40303
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: infinity grips |
I got frustrated trying to make the wiring turn at the grip end so I ran my wiring
external. I ordered some 1.75" black shrink tubing from MC and cut it to
length, slipped it over the stick and cable and went to work with the head gun.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
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| Subject: | Re: infinity grips |
These are my experiences almost exactly. A quick call to JD will get
just what you want, the way you want. I also recommend using the
supplied wire at least to underneath the front seats. If you aren't
using the VP system, then JD's trim relay board is a great way to wire
up your trims, IMHO. I often buy a couple of other buttons from him for
simple things on the panel as well (ie, autopilot source switch,
acknowledge buttons, etc.), so it might make sense to think through
other things that you may want before calling. The order form on the
website does work, if you can find it. It takes a little while to wade
through the huge fonts and colors to actually find the order form link,
but it is there. It does explain itself moderately well, but again, a
call will definitely work. JD is very knowledgeable.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Dec 18, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
> The infinity Grip site is a confusing mess. Calling Infinity when I
ordered my grips for the RV-4, RV-6A RV-10 and most recently my 8A was
the exact same song & grumbling dance. "Did you see the order form on
the website" "Yes but it was confusing and I didn=92t want to make a
mistake in ordering." That is how everyone of my conversations went with
JD but in each case we went through the choices & options and the
ordering took about 20 minutes to get exactly what I needed. Just
understand what switch, button, toggle you want including type of switch
(momentary, push on/off) and of course what hand orientation your grips
should be. Don=92t forget the button switches are available in different
colors so decide ahead of time your AP disconnect color vs. your
Flip/Flop button color. Know ahead of time the amount of wiring length
you want because he sells the bundled wire by the foot. Once you have
completed the grip transaction be ready for the hard sell on his engine
pre-oiler and a few other items. I thanked him for the suggestions but
passed on those items. I think this the best & most accurate way to
order these grips. In the end I get what I need and have discussed the
choices with the most knowledgeable if occasionally a touch gruff
developer of the product.
>
> "Best time to call is after 1400 CA California time, and evenings, at
(619) 448-5103 ."
>
> A note on the wiring. His bundle of wiring in the blue sleeve has a
LOT of wires in it. I think each wire has an associated ground wire.
This bundle is difficult to fish through the control stick. Don=92t
flake out and run the wires external to the stick. I suggest you
eliminate most of the ground wires that you don't need and fish the
balance of the wires through the stick. I call my set up "hillbilly
wiring" but it works well and is much cleaner than an external wiring
job. BTW I am not saying it is impossible to run the entire bundle
through the stick, just very difficult. We finally learned on the 8A the
best technique.
>
> <image002.jpg>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:02 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: infinity grips
>
>
> When ordering my infinity from Aircraft Spruce I ran into, "AC with
flap/brake or AC without flap/brake." What does that mean? I know the
RV-10 doesn't have one but what am I changing in the switch
configuration? Infinity Grip's web sight is so convoluted and scattered
I would rather use Aircraft Spruce.
>
> --------
> Cust. #40936
> RV-10 SB Fuselage
> N801VR reserved
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>
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