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1. 04:48 AM - Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top (Lew Gallagher)
2. 05:49 AM - Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top (Steve Koziol)
3. 06:20 AM - Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top (Linn Walters)
4. 06:20 AM - Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
5. 06:37 AM - Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top (Kelly McMullen)
6. 06:43 AM - Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top (Kelly McMullen)
7. 06:59 AM - Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top (Strasnuts)
8. 07:05 AM - Re: FlightPrep Lawsuit (moosepileit)
9. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: fuel sender info into GRT EIS (Jesse Saint)
10. 07:30 AM - Re: fuel sender info into GRT EIS (Tim Olson)
11. 08:20 AM - Re: fuel sender info into GRT EIS (Lenny Iszak)
12. 09:08 AM - Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top (Robin Marks)
13. 10:24 AM - Re: Door pull handle (Scott Schmidt)
14. 10:24 AM - Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top (Linn Walters)
15. 10:45 AM - Fuel sender to GRT (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
16. 11:14 AM - Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top (Werner Schneider)
17. 12:28 PM - Tools and cheap knock offs. (John Gonzalez)
18. 12:28 PM - Empennage Ordered!! (Tom Biggs)
19. 12:50 PM - Re: Tools and cheap knock offs. (Dj Merrill)
20. 01:03 PM - Re: Tools and cheap knock offs. (Tom Hanaway)
21. 01:22 PM - Re: Empennage Ordered!! (Marcus Cooper)
22. 01:24 PM - Re: Empennage Ordered!! (Rene Felker)
23. 01:25 PM - Re: Tools and cheap knock offs. (Tim Olson)
24. 01:58 PM - Re: Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top (Bill Watson)
25. 02:39 PM - Re: Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top (Patrick Pulis)
26. 03:00 PM - Harbor Freight was Re: Tools and cheap knock offs. (Jae Chang)
27. 03:48 PM - Re: Empennage Ordered!! (Bruce Johnson)
28. 10:39 PM - Re: Empennage Ordered!! (AirMike)
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top |
Hey Patrick,
All of what the others have said about trimming fiberglass. Plus, I
found that sheet metal shears work great for the thin fiberglass parts.
I.e. door shells, trimming around windows, etc. No dust, no fuss, then
just finese sanding.
Later, - Lew
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top |
I would make one suggestion to the air grinder method and that is to do all
of your cutting for fiberglass and plexiglass with an inexpensive electric
die grinder.- This way you will not have to worry about the air grinder
bogging down due to the compressor running low on air and then having to cy
cle through again.- I picked up a Harbor Freight model for about $20 and
it worked like a charm.
-
Steve Koziol
RV 9A- N424JK
108 hrs
--- On Tue, 12/21/10, Pascal <rv10builder@verizon.net> wrote:
From: Pascal <rv10builder@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top
Harbor freight air grinder and the Vans provided cutoff wheels. If you have
a decent air compressor you'll get through it pretty quick, otherwise you
are given numerous breaks while the air compressor tries to keep up with th
e air supply the grinder requires.
Once that is done 40, than 60, than 80 grit sandpaper-trimming it to fit
nicely.
Pascal
From: Patrick Pulis
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 8:51 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top
Your thoughts regrading the best tool/method for trimming the fibreglass ca
bin top would be appreciated please?
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Merry Christmas and a safe and prosperous New Year to you all.
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Kind regards
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Adelaide, South Australia
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top |
Most all the replies suggested tools from Harbor freight. Poor Patrick
Pulis lives in Adelaide, South Australia ....... maybe he'll let us know
if they have HF down under!!!! It reminded me just how much we rely on
and use all the cheap, imported Chinese stuff .......
Linn
> I would make one suggestion to the air grinder method and that is to
> do all of your cutting for fiberglass and plexiglass with an
> inexpensive electric die grinder. This way you will not have to worry
> about the air grinder bogging down due to the compressor running low
> on air and then having to cycle through again. I picked up a Harbor
> Freight model for about $20 and it worked like a charm.
>
> Harbor freight air grinder and the Vans provided cutoff wheels. If
> you have a decent air compressor you'll get through it pretty
> quick, otherwise you are given numerous breaks while the air
> compressor tries to keep up with the air supply the grinder
> requires.Once that is done 40, than 60, than 80 grit
> sandpaper trimming it to fit nicely.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top |
The downside to buying the Harbor Freight, or any brand other than the Fein Multimaster,
is the blade selection that is important cutting fiberglass. Fein offers
an expensive bi-metal cupped blade that lasts just about forever cutting
fiberglass. They were $79 for one blade last time we bought one about 8 years
ago,,,,but well worth the money because its lasted through the build of 2 Cozy
MKIV's and has seen a bit of use on the RV-10 and is still going strong. The
mounting system is different for each brand so it would not fit the HF model.
David Clifford
RV-10 Builder
65% Done-95% To Go
N849RV (reserved)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Koziol" <biovail2001@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:45:38 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top
I would make one suggestion to the air grinder method and that is to do all of
your cutting for fiberglass and plexiglass with an inexpensive electric die grinder.
This way you will not have to worry about the air grinder bogging down
due to the compressor running low on air and then having to cycle through again.
I picked up a Harbor Freight model for about $20 and it worked like a charm.
Steve Koziol
RV 9A N424JK
108 hrs
--- On Tue, 12/21/10, Pascal <rv10builder@verizon.net> wrote:
From: Pascal <rv10builder@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top
Harbor freight air grinder and the Vans provided cutoff wheels. If you have a decent
air compressor you'll get through it pretty quick, otherwise you are given
numerous breaks while the air compressor tries to keep up with the air supply
the grinder requires.
Once that is done 40, than 60, than 80 grit sandpaper trimming it to fit nicely.
Pascal
From: Patrick Pulis
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 8:51 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top
Your thoughts regrading the best tool/method for trimming the fibreglass cabin
top would be appreciated please?
Merry Christmas and a safe and prosperous New Year to you all.
Kind regards
Patrick Pulis
Adelaide, South Australia
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top |
Heck, that makes him closer to the source, maybe can cut out the HF
middleman. 8>)
Myron introduced me to a Sears craftsman rechargeable equivalent yesterday:
http://tinyurl.com/28sd4vh
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>wrote:
> Most all the replies suggested tools from Harbor freight. Poor Patrick
> Pulis lives in Adelaide, South Australia ....... maybe he'll let us know if
> they have HF down under!!!! It reminded me just how much we rely on and use
> all the cheap, imported Chinese stuff .......
> Linn
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top |
But, you can buy almost 10 HF blades for that price, and the HF price
for the tool is about 10% of the Fein. Of course we get what we pay for
and less.
On 12/21/2010 7:17 AM, davidsoutpost@comcast.net wrote:
> The downside to buying the Harbor Freight, or any brand other than the
> Fein Multimaster, is the blade selection that is important cutting
> fiberglass. Fein offers an expensive bi-metal cupped blade that
> lasts just about forever cutting fiberglass. They were $79 for one
> blade last time we bought one about 8 years ago,,,,but well worth the
> money because its lasted through the build of 2 Cozy MKIV's and has
> seen a bit of use on the RV-10 and is still going strong. The
> mounting system is different for each brand so it would not fit the HF
> model.
>
> David Clifford
>
> RV-10 Builder
> 65% Done-95% To Go
> N849RV (reserved)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Koziol" <biovail2001@yahoo.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:45:38 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top
>
> I would make one suggestion to the air grinder method and that is to
> do all of your cutting for fiberglass and plexiglass with an
> inexpensive electric die grinder. This way you will not have to worry
> about the air grinder bogging down due to the compressor running low
> on air and then having to cycle through again. I picked up a Harbor
> Freight model for about $20 and it worked like a charm.
> Steve Koziol
> RV 9A N424JK
> 108 hrs
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/21/10, Pascal /<rv10builder@verizon.net>/* wrote:
>
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> From: Pascal <rv10builder@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 12:43 AM
>
> Harbor freight air grinder and the Vans provided cutoff wheels. If
> you have a decent air compressor you'll get through it pretty
> quick, otherwise you are given numerous breaks while the air
> compressor tries to keep up with the air supply the grinder requires.
> Once that is done 40, than 60, than 80 grit sandpaper trimming it
> to fit nicely.
> Pascal
>
> *From:* Patrick Pulis
> <http://us.mc562.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au>
>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 20, 2010 8:51 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> <http://us.mc562.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rv10-list@matronics.com>
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> *Subject:* RV10-List: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top
>
> Your thoughts regrading the best tool/method for trimming the
> fibreglass cabin top would be appreciated please?
> Merry Christmas and a safe and prosperous New Year to you all.
> Kind regards
> Patrick Pulis
> Adelaide, South Australia
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top |
Patrick,
I used a diamond saw blade in a jigsaw for the initial cut then sanded down close
with a belt sander. Finally finishing with a hand block sander. I tried a
bunch of stuff but if I were to do it again I would stick to these three.
--------
Cust. #40936
RV-10 SB Fuselage
N801VR reserved
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| Subject: | Re: FlightPrep Lawsuit |
Bump.
Free online map data:
http://aeronav.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=aeronav/applications
Don't support Skyvector either, they bought a license from flightprep.
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| Subject: | Re: fuel sender info into GRT EIS |
The plane I have to calibrate was originally installed with a Capacitance fuel
level sender and has been retrofitted to the resistive float system. The plane
has the EIS 4000 engine monitor. Does anybody know the difference in how they
wire up? The owner says the tanks only read accurately from 5-6 gallons left
in each. Any ideas? Just need to recalibrate with the normal procedure?
Thanks
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Dec 20, 2010, at 9:59 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
>
> Carl, Thanks for the info. I will go look again, but I couldn't find any info
on interfacing fuel float senders to the GRT EIS. The "manual" is just a bunch
of papers stapled together, but as I said I couldn't find any reference to fuel
float gauges. That's why I just guessed at using buss voltage (13.6) and a
1K resistor. I'm aware that if the alternator goes off line, the readings will
then be off.
>
> Bob
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: fuel sender info into GRT EIS |
I have the chelton, and the GRT EIS. I hooked mine up using
the 4.8v excite power exactly as the GRT info showed. It works
fine, and actually is reasonably accurate if you calibrate it,
until you get fuller than something in the low-mid 20's of
gallons...when the floats hit the top.
You can also correct for the non-linearity on the Chelton side
a bit.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 12/19/2010 11:49 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob
> Turner"<bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
>
> I am starting a new post because I think this topic deserves one on
> its own. It was started at the end of the "infinity grips" post. The
> question was how to interface (I presume standard fuel float gauges)
> fuel levels into the GRT EIS?
>
> I haven't done it yet, but my plan is to bias the senders with 12
> volts thru a 1,000 ohm resistor.This should give about 0.4 volts when
> full, and about 2.4 volts when empty. The EIS then needs to be
> programmed with a "-" to invert the sensing (low is full, high
> voltage is empty), and the appropriate offsets and scale factors have
> to be entered. With this simple system the readout will not be
> linear. If you want that you'll have to feed the probes with a
> constant current source.
>
> -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323880#323880
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| Subject: | Re: fuel sender info into GRT EIS |
Jesse,
You can quickly get the scale factor and offset if you plug in your number pairs on http://www.wolframalpha.com
Here's an example:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=linear+fit+%7B1.3%2C+2.2%7D%2C%7B2.1%2C+5.8%7D%2C%7B3.7%2C+10.2%7D%2C%7B4.2%2C+11.8%7D
or use this type of query:
linear fit {1.3, 2.2},{2.1, 5.8},{3.7, 10.2},{4.2, 11.8}
It will show you the best transfer function and also show you the error at each
point. A lot easier and more accurate then doing it by hand.
Lenny
jesse(at)saintaviation.co wrote:
> The plane I have to calibrate was originally installed with a Capacitance fuel
level sender and has been retrofitted to the resistive float system. The plane
has the EIS 4000 engine monitor. Does anybody know the difference in how
they wire up? The owner says the tanks only read accurately from 5-6 gallons
left in each. Any ideas? Just need to recalibrate with the normal procedure?
>
> Thanks
>
> do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> On Dec 20, 2010, at 9:59 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
>
>
> >
> >
> > Carl, Thanks for the info. I will go look again, but I couldn't find any info
on interfacing fuel float senders to the GRT EIS. The "manual" is just a bunch
of papers stapled together, but as I said I couldn't find any reference to
fuel float gauges. That's why I just guessed at using buss voltage (13.6) and
a 1K resistor. I'm aware that if the alternator goes off line, the readings
will then be off.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > --------
> > Bob Turner
> > RV-10 QB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323979#323979
> >
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| Subject: | Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top |
Oh=85 Patrick is Australian=85
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That=92s Australian for Fiberglass Trimming Mate!
Robin
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owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Linn Walters
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 21, 2010 6:17 AM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top
Most all the replies suggested tools from Harbor freight. Poor Patrick
Pulis lives in Adelaide, South Australia ....... maybe he'll let us know if
they have HF down under!!!! It reminded me just how much we rely on and us
e
all the cheap, imported Chinese stuff .......
Linn
I would make one suggestion to the air grinder method and that is to do all
of your cutting for fiberglass and plexiglass with an inexpensive electric
die grinder. This way you will not have to worry about the air grinder
bogging down due to the compressor running low on air and then having to
cycle through again. I picked up a Harbor Freight model for about $20 and
it worked like a charm.
Harbor freight air grinder and the Vans provided cutoff wheels. If you have
a decent air compressor you'll get through it pretty quick, otherwise you
are given numerous breaks while the air compressor tries to keep up with th
e
air supply the grinder requires. Once that is done 40, than 60, than 80 gri
t
sandpaper trimming it to fit nicely.
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| Subject: | Re: Door pull handle |
The 180 degree kit from Planearound.com may fix that. The 90 degree may too but
with the 180 degree kit the cam will fully engage which pulls the door in
completely before the pins enter into the pin blocks.
Just another option if you didn't want the handle and make the door look better.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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From: Wayne Williams <rwayne@gamewood.net>
Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 5:07:09 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Door pull handle
Has anyone mounted a "pull" handle on the bottom rear of the door? I find on
cold days my nice fitting door warps slightly and the rear latch will not
engage without a push from the outside. What's the best way to mount a
handle once the doors are finished?
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| Subject: | Fuel sender to GRT |
Or you can order bendable capacitive probes from SkySports and specify what
outputs you want, for instance 0-5 volts, or whatever you'd like, they wil
l do (within reason!)
TDT
Tim Dawson-Townsend
N52KS
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top |
Bunnings down under does offer some of the tools HF has but not as many
cheap Chinese brand once then you can choose from ;)
<http://www.bunnings.com.au/products_range_tools-and-hardware_134.aspx>
Werner (#41122 tail)
On 21.12.2010 15:16, Linn Walters wrote:
> Most all the replies suggested tools from Harbor freight. Poor Patrick
> Pulis lives in Adelaide, South Australia ....... maybe he'll let us know
> if they have HF down under!!!! It reminded me just how much we rely on
> and use all the cheap, imported Chinese stuff .......
> Linn
>
>> I would make one suggestion to the air grinder method and that is to
>> do all of your cutting for fiberglass and plexiglass with an
>> inexpensive electric die grinder. This way you will not have to worry
>> about the air grinder bogging down due to the compressor running low
>> on air and then having to cycle through again. I picked up a Harbor
>> Freight model for about $20 and it worked like a charm.
>>
>> Harbor freight air grinder and the Vans provided cutoff wheels. If
>> you have a decent air compressor you'll get through it pretty
>> quick, otherwise you are given numerous breaks while the air
>> compressor tries to keep up with the air supply the grinder
>> requires. Once that is done 40, than 60, than 80 grit sandpaper
>> trimming it to fit nicely.
>>
>
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| Subject: | Tools and cheap knock offs. |
As for Chinese tools and harbor freight?
I reached another small point of frustration last week while trying to fini
sh some odds and ends.
I ordered some craftsman tools via their catalogue=2C waited the few weeks
which it took for them to arrive(Why a few weeks?) and went to use my new s
et of dies on the tie rods which go below the cylinder heads which hold the
baffles. Within thirty seconds of trying to start the threads with the 6-3
2 die=2C it sheared the face off one of the fingers. It was no use it will
not bite the rod. On the face of every dies is stamped=2C "China"
Of course there is not the normal Craftsman warranty on tap and dies so I w
ent to the Sears store and you can't but them individually. It will cost an
other $80.00 to replace the one die I need by getting another set.
Another set at "DO It Center" was $25.00=2C I bought it as a gamble=2C that
i could get a 6-32 die that might work. The box claimed High Speed Steel.
It didn't work either!
Now I am waiting on two dies I purchased separately from McMaster Carr=2C o
ne of High Speed steel and the other of carbon steel. One of the dies was $
29.00 alone.
If I open these up and they have the writing "China" I fear I am done for.
Basically=2C where can someone buy quality tools that are really quality an
d not just claimed quality? Our country seems to have outsourced everything
in the name of profit and bottom line. I imagine a day when it will be imp
ossible to get a tool or a part of high quality=2C it just won't be availab
le. If only grandpa had tools.
When Vans has the entire kit produced in China=2C will the price go down=2C
up=2C stay the same=2C how about the quality? Would people still buy them?
Confession=2C I own a Harbor Freight engine hoist and it worked fine for th
e three times I have used it and I do know how to use a die.
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| Subject: | Empennage Ordered!! |
Houston gets another 10 builder!! I am looking for any gottchas that I may have
missed, modifications I should do as I build, tricks of the trade, and any other
advise you guys can throw my way.
Tom
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On 12/21/2010 3:24 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
>
> Basically, where can someone buy quality tools that are really quality
> and not just claimed quality?
I understand "Snap-On" is supposed to be excellent quality, but
their prices are outside of my budget range so I can't personally vouch
for them... :-)
Typically the HF stuff I've purchased has worked okay. Some of it
is not great, but I'd say at least 90-95 percent of what I've purchased
from them has worked out just fine, and so far has lasted the 6 years or
so I've been working on my project. A few items are definitely
"consumables", though, such as the hand rivet puller which typically
only lasts a few months, however at $3 each or something like that I
just bought a few of them. I bought 3 of the $3 multimeters thinking
they wouldn't last long, but I'm still using the first one I opened.
-Dj
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John,
Certain tools I knew that I wanted high quality. Especially, close
tolerance tools like taps/dies, torque wrenches, etc. I've been able to
find NEW snap-on tools ( full metric/std. tap and die set, electronic
torque wrench) on ebay at relatively reasonable prices.
I have a snap-on screwdriver that I bought over 25 years ago. Still gives
me pleasure every time I use it.
l
I still go to harbor freight for lifts, basic air tools, etc.
Tom Hanaway
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 3:25 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Tools and cheap knock offs.
As for Chinese tools and harbor freight?
I reached another small point of frustration last week while trying to
finish some odds and ends.
I ordered some craftsman tools via their catalogue, waited the few weeks
which it took for them to arrive(Why a few weeks?) and went to use my new
set of dies on the tie rods which go below the cylinder heads which hold the
baffles. Within thirty seconds of trying to start the threads with the 6-32
die, it sheared the face off one of the fingers. It was no use it will not
bite the rod. On the face of every dies is stamped, "China"
Of course there is not the normal Craftsman warranty on tap and dies so I
went to the Sears store and you can't but them individually. It will cost
another $80.00 to replace the one die I need by getting another set.
Another set at "DO It Center" was $25.00, I bought it as a gamble, that i
could get a 6-32 die that might work. The box claimed High Speed Steel.
It didn't work either!
Now I am waiting on two dies I purchased separately from McMaster Carr, one
of High Speed steel and the other of carbon steel. One of the dies was
$29.00 alone.
If I open these up and they have the writing "China" I fear I am done for.
Basically, where can someone buy quality tools that are really quality and
not just claimed quality? Our country seems to have outsourced everything in
the name of profit and bottom line. I imagine a day when it will be
impossible to get a tool or a part of high quality, it just won't be
available. If only grandpa had tools.
When Vans has the entire kit produced in China, will the price go down, up,
stay the same, how about the quality? Would people still buy them?
Confession, I own a Harbor Freight engine hoist and it worked fine for the
three times I have used it and I do know how to use a die.
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| Subject: | Empennage Ordered!! |
Tom,
What a great Christmas present to yourself and way to start the new year.
Tons of info on this forum, make sure you look at the archives and
especially Tim Olson's site http://www.myrv10.com/
Enjoy and good luck,
Marcus
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 3:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Empennage Ordered!!
Houston gets another 10 builder!! I am looking for any gottchas that I may
have missed, modifications I should do as I build, tricks of the trade, and
any other advise you guys can throw my way.
Tom
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www.myrv10.com
Tim's site is great!
There is more info there than you can imagine.....
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Empennage Ordered!!
Houston gets another 10 builder!! I am looking for any gottchas that I may
have missed, modifications I should do as I build, tricks of the trade, and
any other advise you guys can throw my way.
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: Tools and cheap knock offs. |
On any drilling/cutting bits and taps and dies, I have only been buying individuals.
The affordable kits are all junk. Then I also only buy name brand USA
made bits. Chinese can make tools but the cutting tools I think they just don't
do good with.
Tim
On Dec 21, 2010, at 2:24 PM, John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> wrote:
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top |
Yes, I'd second that thought assuming you meant by "diamond saw blade"
an abrasive type blade. They last a long time on FG and cut well.
On 12/21/2010 9:57 AM, Strasnuts wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Strasnuts"<sean@braunandco.com>
>
> Patrick,
>
> I used a diamond saw blade in a jigsaw for the initial cut then sanded down close
with a belt sander. Finally finishing with a hand block sander. I tried
a bunch of stuff but if I were to do it again I would stick to these three.
>
> --------
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Fibreglass Cabin Top |
Many thanks to you all for the advice regarding trimming the cabin top.-
Robin, =0AI loved your idea the most for expediency!=0A-=0AIt was definit
ely a white Christmas here in Australia last night, wow, talk =0Aabout dust
.- I now know why people call this and the door sections, fibreglass =0Ap
urgatory!=0A-=0AI wish you all a very safe and Merry Christmas and most p
rosperous building new =0Ayear for those of you who are still building.-
Those that are flying, I wish you =0Asafe and smooth skies.=0A-=0AIt soun
ds as though there is a 'Harbour Freight' franchise opportunity waiting =0A
here for the taking down under!=0A-=0ARegards and many thanks=0A-=0APat
in Oz=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Tools and cheap knock offs. |
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/local/mesa/article_ef2de0ba-94fe-11df-bbe8-001cc4c002e0.html
Founder's son has been running the company into the ground, so to speak,
apparently. Just google for it. There was a much better article about it
i read earlier this year.
Are you sure it's not a technique problem with using the tap and die?
Jae
40533 wiring the panel
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Talk to Carl in DC. He told me of some changes he made to the oil cooler la
yout =0Aand cabin heat inlets trying to avoid some heating issues. He's see
ms like a =0Apretty good guy.=0A=0A151BJ 33.4 hrs and climbing=0A=0A=0A____
____________________________=0AFrom: Tom Biggs <rv10@tmbiggs.com>=0ATo: rv1
0-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, December 21, 2010 1:26:22 PM=0ASubject: R
ggs" <rv10@tmbiggs.com>=0A=0AHouston gets another 10 builder!! I am looking
for any gottchas that I may have =0Amissed, modifications I should do as I
build, tricks of the trade, and any other =0Aadvise you guys can throw my
way.=0A=0ATom=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums
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Get a nice large steel plate for back riveting. You will get good use out of it
and get a very nice smooth job. Mine was too small 12"-24" recessed would be
nice.
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See you OSH '11
Q/B - flying 1 yr+
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