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1. 01:11 AM - Slickstart module location (jchang10)
2. 05:50 AM - rudder pedal extensions (Alan Mekler)
3. 06:14 AM - Re: rudder pedal extensions (Tim Olson)
4. 08:48 AM - Re: rudder pedal extensions (Alan Mekler)
5. 10:36 AM - Re: Slickstart module location (Dave Saylor)
6. 11:02 AM - Canada Sectionals Online (Scott Schmidt)
7. 12:30 PM - Re: Canada Sectionals Online (Les Kearney)
8. 12:58 PM - baggage door spring or strut (Pascal)
9. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: Alternate Air (Kelly McMullen)
10. 02:08 PM - Re: Miscellaneous end of year questions (Bill Watson)
11. 02:15 PM - Re: Re: Alternate Air (Linn Walters)
12. 02:15 PM - Re: Slickstart module location (Bill Watson)
13. 02:25 PM - Re: Miscellaneous end of year questions (woxofswa)
14. 03:12 PM - Re: baggage door spring or strut (g.combs)
15. 03:24 PM - Re: baggage door spring or strut (g.combs)
16. 03:25 PM - Re: baggage door spring or strut (Ron B.)
17. 03:33 PM - Re: Canada Sectionals Online (Ron B.)
18. 04:13 PM - Re: Canada Sectionals Online (Rick Lark)
19. 04:44 PM - Re: Slickstart module location (jchang10)
20. 04:44 PM - Re: Re: Alternate Air (Jack Phillips)
21. 06:43 PM - Re: Re: Slickstart module location (Dave Saylor)
22. 06:49 PM - Re: Canada Sectionals Online (Tim Olson)
23. 06:52 PM - Re: Re: Slickstart module location (Kelly McMullen)
24. 07:54 PM - Re: Re: Slickstart module location (Jae Chang)
25. 08:02 PM - Re: Re: Slickstart module location (Kelly McMullen)
26. 08:19 PM - Re: Re: Slickstart module location (Kevin Belue)
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| Subject: | Slickstart module location |
For those of you with the Slickstart module, where did you end up installing it?
I already have stuff on the left top of the firewall. The center top of the
firewall might interfere with accessing the oil filter. Thus, the right top is
seemingly the best choice for me.
Just curious what others have done. Not sure what Van's did on their demo machine
either.
http://www.myrv10.com/N610RV/undercowl/P0003082.html
Jae
40533
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| Subject: | rudder pedal extensions |
Does anyone make a rudder pedal extension? My wife is only 5 feet tall and
can't reach the pedals. I tried making a 4inch extension but it interfered
with the brakes.
Alan
N668G
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| Subject: | Re: rudder pedal extensions |
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090503/index.html
These are really crude and could be refined well with some effort. I painte
d them and have left them in almost all the time for I guess 1.5 years now.
They don't interfere with the brakes but that's because I built them in suc
h a way that they wouldn't. They basically only touch the pedal surface...no
t anything else.
I still have to pull them and drill some lightening holes some day, and mayb
e fill some gaps with wood putty for cosmetics.
Tim
On Jan 2, 2011, at 7:41 AM, "Alan Mekler" <amekler@metrocast.net> wrote:
> Does anyone make a rudder pedal extension? My wife is only 5 feet tall and
can=99t reach the pedals. I tried making a 4inch extension but it int
erfered with the brakes.
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> Alan
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| Subject: | rudder pedal extensions |
Tim,
I had some made out of aluminum and mounted with a backing plate though the
original holes in the pedals. They seemed to work fine but were not long
enough so I had a welded extension piece added to the bottom. I put them on
and noticed the brakes were locked engaged. Looking for a better solution.
I'll send you some pictures next time I'm down at the hangar.
Alan
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder pedal extensions
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090503/index.html
These are really crude and could be refined well with some effort. I
painted them and have left them in almost all the time for I guess 1.5 years
now. They don't interfere with the brakes but that's because I built them
in such a way that they wouldn't. They basically only touch the pedal
surface...not anything else.
I still have to pull them and drill some lightening holes some day, and
maybe fill some gaps with wood putty for cosmetics.
Tim
On Jan 2, 2011, at 7:41 AM, "Alan Mekler" <amekler@metrocast.net> wrote:
Does anyone make a rudder pedal extension? My wife is only 5 feet tall and
can't reach the pedals. I tried making a 4inch extension but it interfered
with the brakes.
Alan
N668G
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| Subject: | Re: Slickstart module location |
It can go just about anywhere. We've put them on the firewall,
adel-clamped to engine mount, behind the panel, etc. It's not too
critical.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:09 AM, jchang10 <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com> wrote:
>
> For those of you with the Slickstart module, where did you end up installing
it? I already have stuff on the left top of the firewall. The center top of the
firewall might interfere with accessing the oil filter. Thus, the right top
is seemingly the best choice for me.
>
> Just curious what others have done. Not sure what Van's did on their demo machine
either.
>
> http://www.myrv10.com/N610RV/undercowl/P0003082.html
>
> Jae
> 40533
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325278#325278
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| Subject: | Canada Sectionals Online |
I know there are quite a few Rv'ers in Canada and we may take the RV into Canada
next year and was wondering if any of you knew if Canadian VFR charts were available
online like Skyvector or Runwayfinder.
That is if the Internet has reached Canada yet? J/K
I found some links where this question was asked but it just took me to a site
that offers the charts for sale.
Thanks, Scott
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| Subject: | Canada Sectionals Online |
Hi Scott
What is this "internet thing". I heard someone named Gore invented it, along
with global warming.
In Canada we don't use aviation maps, we just follow the roads and railways
and use auto club maps...
That being said, I don't know of any place where you can get Canadian
aviation maps online. If you want, I can get the maps you need and send them
to you. In Canada we have the Canadian Flight Supplement (similar to the US
AF/D) which lists all airports in Canada (last count I think there were six
or seven).
We also have the CAP (Canada Air Pilot) which contains all our instrument
approaches (my favorite is the cat and duck approach). This comes in several
editions, each covering a different area in Canada.
We also have Low Level Enroute charts used for IFR but also handy for flight
planning.
Customs in Canada is a lot less stressful than in the US. The CanPass system
is a breeze. You will need to deal with Eapis on your re-entry into the
states however. I hope you are getting all the TSA security you seem to be
buying....
When visiting here, keep in mind that our firearm restrictions are
significant so leave the guns at home. I only mention this as I know of
people who have had problems with handguns etc when coming into Canada.
This is more than you asked for but it may help in your planning.
If I can be of help, feel free to drop me a note directly. If you are in
Edmonton (Alberta) I could even find a bed or two for you.
Cheers
Les
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Sent: January-02-11 11:59 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Canada Sectionals Online
I know there are quite a few Rv'ers in Canada and we may take the RV into
Canada next year and was wondering if any of you knew if Canadian VFR charts
were available online like Skyvector or Runwayfinder.
That is if the Internet has reached Canada yet? J/K
I found some links where this question was asked but it just took me to a
site that offers the charts for sale.
Thanks, Scott
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| Subject: | baggage door spring or strut |
What have others done for the baggage door to keep it open?
Thanks!
Pascal
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate Air |
The Mooney Ram Air is in NO way an alternate air. In fact it is prohibited
from use in precipitation. There is a separate alternate air door that is
spring loaded, automatic operation whenever intake suction overcomes the
spring.
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:56 PM, <EMAproducts@aol.com> wrote:
> RV10-List: Alternate Air intake
>
> I'm sure some of you have flown the Mooney with the "Ram Air" door in the
> nose, pulled open gained about 2" MP @ cruise, look at most injected
> production planes, sucker doors in the inlet somewhere in case filter gets
> plugged. All sorts of ideas that work excellent. Personally over 25000
> hours, still instructing my comment if your air filter freezes over that is
> the least of your problems, if I recall you can't legally fly in icing
> conditions anyway, and your wings will shortly lose lift to support you. Be
> safe live a long life,
> Elbie Mendenhall EAA 38308
>
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| Subject: | Re: Miscellaneous end of year questions |
2 more observations....
>
> My wire strippers don't seen to work very well on the fine Tefzel
> wires of the RayAllen servos. Can anyone give me the name / model of a
> good brand of wire strippers that will handle these wires? I suspect
> this will be an ongoing issue.
>
I had the same problem with the RayAllen wires using my no-name grip and
strip type stripper. They were the only 24-26 gauge wires on the
project. My strippers worked very well on every other (larger) gauge
wire. The wires on the RayAllens are too thin is my thought.
> On the mechanical side, I am stumped over how to remove the tanks on
> my QB wings. The screws seem to be very well set and I don't think I
> can remove them without stripping the heads. Is there any trick to
> removing these screws (WD40 etc)?
Had the same problem with my QB tanks. What I found was that all
phillips head drivers are not the same. Using my Craftsman drivers, I
could only maul them. My neighbor cut some old drivers he had and
welded on T-handles. The extra leverage seemed to help and I was able
to remove one tank. On the second tank I accidentally picked up a rusty
long shaft Enderes driver and found I could remove the screws without
mauling them. I ended up buying a set of Enderes drivers - they are
good but no magic. That particular rusty, long shaft driver is just
particularly good.
http://everything2.com/title/The+Perfect+Screwdriver?bookmark_nonce=114f7664880ed9680ced7d19b5bf6a73&bookmark_id=883913&bookmark_seed=871591566.59759&op=bookmark
But all Phillips drivers are not equal. Try some different ones.
I'm not sure removing the tanks was such a good idea since all I did was
air/balloon test them. If they leak with fluid in them, they will have
to come off again. However, I did remove the screws for painting so it
will look good if they do come off.
I really enjoyed the wiring - one of my favorite parts of the build.
Bill "waiting for warmer painting weather" Watson
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate Air |
I'm no expert, but I believe almost all the intake filters on certified
aircraft are either a foam or folded filter element that is easily
blocked by snow/freezing rain, bird feathers, or just plain dirt, and
may be easily have a problem if there wasn't some alternate air source
or carb heat.
The ring type of filter we use is far more forgiving of stuff entering
the intake and clogging the filter. I just don't see how the whole FAB
would fill with enough stuff to cause a problem. With this thread, I
have yet to hear from anybody that's had any type of intake malfunction
...... due to clogging ..... unless I just plain missed it.
So, are there any flying -10s out there that have actually had a problem???
Linn
On 1/2/2011 4:26 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> The Mooney Ram Air is in NO way an alternate air. In fact it is
> prohibited from use in precipitation. There is a separate alternate
> air door that is spring loaded, automatic operation whenever intake
> suction overcomes the spring.
>
> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:56 PM, <EMAproducts@aol.com
> <mailto:EMAproducts@aol.com>> wrote:
>
> RV10-List: Alternate Air intake
> I'm sure some of you have flown the Mooney with the "Ram Air"
> door in the nose, pulled open gained about 2" MP @ cruise, look at
> most injected production planes, sucker doors in the inlet
> somewhere in case filter gets plugged. All sorts of ideas that
> work excellent. Personally over 25000 hours, still instructing
> my comment if your air filter freezes over that is the least of
> your problems, if I recall you can't legally fly in icing
> conditions anyway, and your wings will shortly lose lift to
> support you. Be safe live a long life,
> Elbie Mendenhall EAA 38308
>
>
> *
>
> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Slickstart module location |
That's where I put mine - right underneath the brake fluid reservoir.
On 1/2/2011 4:09 AM, jchang10 wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jchang10"<jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
>
> For those of you with the Slickstart module, where did you end up installing
it? I already have stuff on the left top of the firewall. The center top of the
firewall might interfere with accessing the oil filter. Thus, the right top
is seemingly the best choice for me.
>
> Just curious what others have done. Not sure what Van's did on their demo machine
either.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Miscellaneous end of year questions |
For better grip on the tip of a screwdriver, in the absence of valve grind compound,
pumice hand cleaner will work almost as well, and in the absence of that,
try toothpaste
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, finishing
kit in progress.
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| Subject: | Re: baggage door spring or strut |
Pascal Aerosport products will be offering
This baggage door cover with gas strut. We will
Also sell the strut and mounting accessories
Separately. Available soon
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Jan 2, 2011, at 3:54 PM, "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net> wrote:
> What have others done for the baggage door to keep it open?
>
> Thanks!
> Pascal
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: baggage door spring or strut |
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| Subject: | Re: baggage door spring or strut |
I used a lift strut from McMaster Carr part # 11615A14. It was easy to install
and works good. I had to replace the plastic end as it is the stop for when the
door is open. It would just pull right out. I made one from brass and it now
holds.
This it the same strut that Matt Dralle used on his RV-8 baggage door. Thanks Matt.
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| Subject: | Re: Canada Sectionals Online |
Hello Scott
I'm not aware of online charts either. I had been following your site quite closely
during our build and appreciate that you have that site. I also would like
to welcome you to Canada and would be glad to put you up if you chose to visit
our end of Nova Scotia. We are not what I would call a remote area but we are
at the south end of the province. That being said, by air not far from Maine.
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Canada Sectionals Online |
Scott
-
As you probably realize by now, Canadian aeronautical charts/data are not a
vailable on line.- The issue is with Nav Canada and a propriety issue.-
I know of a couple of US companies that have tried to get Canadian data fo
r their GPS systems and Nav Canada stone walled them in a big way.
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As far as I know the only companies that have the data (besides Nav Canada)
are Jeppeson and maybe Garmin (but I'm of the impression Garmin data comes
from Jeppeson?).- I`m sure Jeppeson pays a heft price for the data too.
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Charts/data can be purchased from "Aeronautical Publications, Sales and Dis
tribution Centre" in Ottawa (1-800-731-PUBS).
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IMHO, Nav Canada is a PITA but Transport Canada, a long tme ago sold us out
, so this is what we Canadians have to deal with.- Be thankful of the FAA
because they`re much more far sighted and proactive with regards to genera
l aviation. (rant off).
-
Regards,-
-
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Canada Sectionals Online
Received: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 6:59 PM
I know there are quite a few Rv'ers in Canada and we may take the RV into C
anada next year and was wondering if any of you knew if Canadian VFR charts
were available online like Skyvector or Runwayfinder.
That is if the Internet has reached Canada yet? J/K
I found some links where this question was asked but it just took me to a s
ite that offers the charts for sale.
Thanks, Scott
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Slickstart module location |
Thanks for the replies!
Interestingly, i asked another flying -10 builder, where he put his slickstart
module, and he said what is that? Thus, a Mattituck IO540 with 2 slick mags, no
EI, and no slickstart module, seems to start up fine with no issues whatsoever.
In the photo of N410RV, I don't see any "extra" wires going to their left mag,
either. I plan to ask Van's about it this week.
Jae
40533
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate Air |
I can sort of chime in here - at least about the reliability of the ring
type air filters.
A couple of years ago, a friend with little current tailwheel time had just
bought an RV-6. I ferried the plane back home for him and it was tied down
at a temporary home on a grass field awaiting completion of his hangar.
That fall, a hurricane was approaching and he was out of town. I got a
frantic call asking me to fly his plane up to Lakeridge airport in Durham,
NC, because Bill "MauleDriver" Watson had enough room in his hangar (along
with his Maule and his RV-10 project) to allow the RV-6 to be under shelter.
I was to fly the plane to Lakeridge at dawn, and then Bill would take me to
work.
I told him I'd be happy to help. The storm was to hit that evening, so the
weather should be good enough to fly it there in the morning.
I got to the field before dawn and untied the plane. I pre-flighted it,
including removing the cowling cooling inlet plugs (with their flags that
draped over the propeller) and the "Remove Before Flight" pitot cover. I
started the engine and taxied to the end of the runway where I did a runup.
The engine ran normally and I was soon ready to takeoff, with the sky
lightening behind me. I announced my departure on 122.9, swung into the
wind and began the takeoff roll. It seemed a bit sluggish, but I had
noticed it was sluggish when I ferried it - at least compared to my RV-4. I
attributed this to the cruise prop it had installed.
I climbed out and set my course for Lakeridge. As I passed through 500' AGL
there was a THUMP that I both heard and felt. I immediately turned back
toward the runway behind me, but the engine actually increased its RPM and
the airspeed increased by nearly 10 knots. I circled the field to make sure
it ws going to continue running before turning again for Lakeridge. Twenty
minutes later I was taxiing up to Bill's hangar, and in the confusion of
trying to fit the RV-6 under the wing of his Maule I forgot about the thump.
Later that evening I talked to the owner and remembered the thump. He went
to Bill's as soon as he got back in town and inspected his plane. What he
found surprised him (and shocked me). Unbeknownst to me, since the last
time I had flown the plane he had added a foam plug for the carburetor air
inlet, a plug of black foam rubber and he had not gotten around to adding a
"Remove Before Flight" tag for it. I had taken off with the foam plugging
the inlet, and the "thump" was the foam getting sucked through the opening
and up against the air filter.
Even with that foam plug plastered on the ring-type air filter, the filter
prevented the plug from getting into the carburetor (which really would have
gotten interesting). The filter still allowed enough air to get through to
make for a safe flight.
Rest assured that I have learned from this to do a VERY thorough preflight
when flying a strange airplane, particularly when that preflight takes place
in the dark. I had a flashlight (which I inadvertantly left in his
airplane), but I still didn't see that black foam plug in the carburetor
inlet. Another lesson learned is to NEVER add any sort of cover that needs
to be removed before flight without tagging it and making it obvious to any
idiot that it must be removed. You never know which idiot might have to fly
that plane next - it might be you.
Jack Phillips
#40610 - Wings
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn Walters
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alternate Air
I'm no expert, but I believe almost all the intake filters on certified
aircraft are either a foam or folded filter element that is easily blocked
by snow/freezing rain, bird feathers, or just plain dirt, and may be easily
have a problem if there wasn't some alternate air source or carb heat.
The ring type of filter we use is far more forgiving of stuff entering the
intake and clogging the filter. I just don't see how the whole FAB would
fill with enough stuff to cause a problem. With this thread, I have yet to
hear from anybody that's had any type of intake malfunction ...... due to
clogging ..... unless I just plain missed it.
So, are there any flying -10s out there that have actually had a problem???
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: Slickstart module location |
Impulse couplings are the mechanical version of the SlickStart.
That's what people use if they don't have a SlickStart, or if you look
in the installation instructions you can uses a SlickStart with
impulse couplings for a belt-and-suspenders approach.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:41 PM, jchang10 <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the replies!
>
> Interestingly, i asked another flying -10 builder, where he put his slickstart
module, and he said what is that? Thus, a Mattituck IO540 with 2 slick mags,
no EI, and no slickstart module, seems to start up fine with no issues whatsoever.
>
> In the photo of N410RV, I don't see any "extra" wires going to their left mag,
either. I plan to ask Van's about it this week.
>
> Jae
> 40533
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325362#325362
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Canada Sectionals Online |
I don't know how complete it is, and it's not the same as
having a sectional, but Voyager does have the airways
and airport data from the looks of it. I panned up
and planned a flight into Canada as a test, and terrain
shows up, with airways, navaids, and airports. So at
least the electronic version has the critical data.
The airport data is there too when you click on the
airports.
So it seems to at least be a good supplement to paper.
Is there anyone in Canada who uses it who can verify?
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 1/2/2011 6:10 PM, Rick Lark wrote:
> Scott
> As you probably realize by now, Canadian aeronautical charts/data are
> not available on line. The issue is with Nav Canada and a propriety
> issue. I know of a couple of US companies that have tried to get
> Canadian data for their GPS systems and Nav Canada stone walled them in
> a big way.
> As far as I know the only companies that have the data (besides Nav
> Canada) are Jeppeson and maybe Garmin (but I'm of the impression Garmin
> data comes from Jeppeson?). I`m sure Jeppeson pays a heft price for the
> data too.
> Charts/data can be purchased from "Aeronautical Publications, Sales and
> Distribution Centre" in Ottawa (1-800-731-PUBS).
> IMHO, Nav Canada is a PITA but Transport Canada, a long tme ago sold us
> out, so this is what we Canadians have to deal with. Be thankful of the
> FAA because they`re much more far sighted and proactive with regards to
> general aviation. (rant off).
> Regards,
> Rick
> #40956
> Southampton, Ont
>
>
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> Subject: RV10-List: Canada Sectionals Online
> To: "RV-10 List" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
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> I know there are quite a few Rv'ers in Canada and we may take the RV
> into Canada next year and was wondering if any of you knew if
> Canadian VFR charts were available online like Skyvector or
> Runwayfinder.
>
> That is if the Internet has reached Canada yet? J/K
>
> I found some links where this question was asked but it just took me
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| Subject: | Re: Slickstart module location |
The Slick start was originally a replacement for the vibrator in retard
breaker systems such as the Bendix shower of sparks setup the Comanche
and many Mooneys used.
On 1/2/2011 7:39 PM, Dave Saylor wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Dave Saylor<dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
>
> Impulse couplings are the mechanical version of the SlickStart.
> That's what people use if they don't have a SlickStart, or if you look
> in the installation instructions you can uses a SlickStart with
> impulse couplings for a belt-and-suspenders approach.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:41 PM, jchang10<jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com> wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jchang10"<jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
>>
>> Thanks for the replies!
>>
>> Interestingly, i asked another flying -10 builder, where he put his slickstart
module, and he said what is that? Thus, a Mattituck IO540 with 2 slick mags,
no EI, and no slickstart module, seems to start up fine with no issues whatsoever.
>>
>> In the photo of N410RV, I don't see any "extra" wires going to their left mag,
either. I plan to ask Van's about it this week.
>>
>> Jae
>> 40533
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325362#325362
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slickstart module location |
Actually, I assumed he had the same Slick mag, with just a retard
breaker. I don't know exactly what retard breakers do, but I am familiar
with impulse couplers, from the Cessna training days.
However, I can't remember if most Cessnas have dual or single impulse
coupled mags? I would guess single, but now I wonder why? Is there
anything wrong with having dual impulse coupled mags, other than extra cost?
Jae
40533
On 1/2/2011 6:50 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> The Slick start was originally a replacement for the vibrator in
> retard breaker systems such as the Bendix shower of sparks setup the
> Comanche and many Mooneys used.
>
>
> On 1/2/2011 7:39 PM, Dave Saylor wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Dave
>> Saylor<dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
>>
>> Impulse couplings are the mechanical version of the SlickStart.
>> That's what people use if they don't have a SlickStart, or if you look
>> in the installation instructions you can uses a SlickStart with
>> impulse couplings for a belt-and-suspenders approach.
>>
>> Dave Saylor
>> AirCrafters
>> 140 Aviation Way
>> Watsonville, CA 95076
>> 831-722-9141 Shop
>> 831-750-0284 Cell
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:41 PM,
>> jchang10<jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com> wrote:
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by:
>>> "jchang10"<jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the replies!
>>>
>>> Interestingly, i asked another flying -10 builder, where he put his
>>> slickstart module, and he said what is that? Thus, a Mattituck IO540
>>> with 2 slick mags, no EI, and no slickstart module, seems to start
>>> up fine with no issues whatsoever.
>>>
>>> In the photo of N410RV, I don't see any "extra" wires going to their
>>> left mag, either. I plan to ask Van's about it this week.
>>>
>>> Jae
>>> 40533
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325362#325362
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slickstart module location |
Cost and complexity is why many planes only have a single impulse
coupler. That is one mechanism prone to failure and subject of several
ADs. An engine needs something to retard the spark when starting to TDC
to avoid kickbacks. A retard breaker does this by a second set of
points, with pulsation to generate sparks created either by a vibrator
or Slickstart. Impulse coupling does it with a windup spring that
releases at TDC and decouples above cranking rpm by centrifugal flyweights.
On 1/2/2011 8:50 PM, Jae Chang wrote:
>
> Actually, I assumed he had the same Slick mag, with just a retard
> breaker. I don't know exactly what retard breakers do, but I am
> familiar with impulse couplers, from the Cessna training days.
>
> However, I can't remember if most Cessnas have dual or single impulse
> coupled mags? I would guess single, but now I wonder why? Is there
> anything wrong with having dual impulse coupled mags, other than extra
> cost?
>
> Jae
> 40533
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slickstart module location |
Jae,
The Slickstart's main purpose is to be an electronic replacement for the electromechanical
vibrator used with Bendix retard breaker mags, which is necesary because
they don't use impulse couplers to start the engine. There is also a version
of Slickstart for Slick mags, which helps those start better, but is not
necessary. Slickstart works very well, but they quit making the Bendix version
several years ago. Since I have Bendix retard mags on my RV-10, I wanted a Slickstart
and called everywhere to find one in stock. I finally found one in Canada
and bought it. I haven't seen any more. They still make the version for
Slick mags.
Kevin Belue
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 2, 2011, at 6:41 PM, "jchang10" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the replies!
>
> Interestingly, i asked another flying -10 builder, where he put his slickstart
module, and he said what is that? Thus, a Mattituck IO540 with 2 slick mags,
no EI, and no slickstart module, seems to start up fine with no issues whatsoever.
>
> In the photo of N410RV, I don't see any "extra" wires going to their left mag,
either. I plan to ask Van's about it this week.
>
> Jae
> 40533
>
>
>
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