---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/09/11: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:41 AM - Re: Need the type of material for front wing spar (Sparweb, Stepped bar, Doubler) (Wayne Edgerton) 2. 08:43 AM - Re: Hole in fuselage under wing (Tim Olson) 3. 09:37 AM - Re: Hole in fuselage under wing (Pascal) 4. 10:25 AM - Engine Monitor Range/Alarm settings (Michael Kraus) 5. 11:52 AM - Re: Hole in fuselage under wing (Ron B.) 6. 12:24 PM - Re: Engine Monitor Range/Alarm settings (Pascal) 7. 12:24 PM - Re: Engine Monitor Range/Alarm settings (Pascal) 8. 01:01 PM - Re: Engine Monitor Range/Alarm settings (Kelly McMullen) 9. 03:30 PM - Re: IO-540 Hose kit -possible group buy - Updated pricing (rleffler) 10. 05:58 PM - Re: Hole in fuselage under wing (David Leikam) 11. 07:19 PM - FWF kit recieved on Friday... (rv10flyer) 12. 07:51 PM - Re: FWF kit recieved on Friday... (Kelly McMullen) 13. 08:25 PM - Re: FWF kit recieved on Friday... (Pascal) 14. 08:31 PM - Re: FWF kit recieved on Friday... (Kelly McMullen) 15. 09:58 PM - Re: Engine heater (AirMike) 16. 10:36 PM - Re: Engine Monitor Range/Alarm settings (Gordon Anderson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:41:56 AM PST US From: "Wayne Edgerton" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Need the type of material for front wing spar (Sparweb, Stepped bar, Doubler) I was up at Tru Trak last year having some work done on my AP and was looking at their RV10. They have two additional 60 gallon tanks on theirs. One inboard like normal and then the same tank on the abutting outboard portion of the wing. I was talking to Jim Younkin, who owns Tru Trak, about it. You might want to give him a call he might be able to give you some insight into his research on installing his. Wayne Edgerton 40336 N602WT do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hole in fuselage under wing From: Tim Olson I just filled mine with clear silicone and then shaved it flush. It's good to seal it against carbon monoxide, but how you seal it probably isn't a big deal. Fiberglass and epoxy and fairing filler would work fine pre-paint. I did mine after painting. It's not really too easily noticed. Tim On Jan 9, 2011, at 12:08 AM, David Leikam wrote: > > How have others closed up the small opening or hole on each side of the fuselage, just below and aft of the leading edge of the wing? > Thanks. > > David Leikam > RV10 > N89DA > Gas in the wings, getting ready to light the fire! > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:20 AM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hole in fuselage under wing I prosealed an aluminum piece over the hole. -------------------------------------------------- From: "David Leikam" Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 10:08 PM Subject: RV10-List: Hole in fuselage under wing > > How have others closed up the small opening or hole on each side of the > fuselage, just below and aft of the leading edge of the wing? > Thanks. > > David Leikam > RV10 > N89DA > Gas in the wings, getting ready to light the fire! > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:25:32 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Engine Monitor Range/Alarm settings From: Michael Kraus Does anyone have a list of engine monitor settings, like green-yellow-red settings for the engine parameters? I have an IO-540 in a RV-10. Just looking fir something to start with. Thanks -Mike Kraus Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:07 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Hole in fuselage under wing From: "Ron B." I just used proseal before painting. Paint sticks to proseal. Ron Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326133#326133 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:24:19 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Monitor Range/Alarm settings oops sorry! wrong numbers! Look at the engine manual or lycoming's site.. I saw it somewhere just dont recall where. -----Original Message----- From: Pascal Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 12:19 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Monitor Range/Alarm settings Vans has this on their site: http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/speeds.pdf -----Original Message----- From: Michael Kraus Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 10:18 AM Subject: RV10-List: Engine Monitor Range/Alarm settings Does anyone have a list of engine monitor settings, like green-yellow-red settings for the engine parameters? I have an IO-540 in a RV-10. Just looking fir something to start with. Thanks -Mike Kraus Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:24:19 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Monitor Range/Alarm settings Vans has this on their site: http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/speeds.pdf -----Original Message----- From: Michael Kraus Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 10:18 AM Subject: RV10-List: Engine Monitor Range/Alarm settings Does anyone have a list of engine monitor settings, like green-yellow-red settings for the engine parameters? I have an IO-540 in a RV-10. Just looking fir something to start with. Thanks -Mike Kraus Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Monitor Range/Alarm settings From: Kelly McMullen Here are some conservative numbers: CHT, 380 F yellow, 400 red, 200-380 green Oil pressure, 25-50 yellow, 55-75 green,75-90 yellow, above that red Oil temp 160-220 green 220-240 yellow 240 red. Fuel pressure 20-28 green, below 18 and above 28 red, Fuel flow, above 27 or so red. That should get you started. Keep in mind that Lycoming operator's handbook red lines are NOT conservative...like CHT redline 475-500 in climb and 425 in cruise...much too hot. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Michael Kraus wrote: > > > > Does anyone have a list of engine monitor settings, like green-yellow-red > settings for the engine parameters? I have an IO-540 in a RV-10. Just > looking fir something to start with. Thanks > -Mike Kraus > > Sent from my iPhone > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:24 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: IO-540 Hose kit -possible group buy - Updated pricing From: "rleffler" I just got the following quotes: Aircrafthoses.com Our kit contains 7 hoses. Your price in orange pull over firesleeve would be $504.76. Your price for brown molded firesleeve would be $619.53. TSFLightlines.com Stainless braided Teflon hose, Stainless hose ends, Fire sleeved, Pressure Tested to 3000 psi - $389 Van's - $379.30 -------- Bob Leffler N410BL - Finish RV-10 #40684 http://mykitlog.com/rleffler Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326159#326159 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:30 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hole in fuselage under wing From: David Leikam Any idea why the hole is there? David Leikam RV10 N89DA On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > I just filled mine with clear silicone and then shaved it flush. It's good to seal it against carbon monoxide, but how you seal it probably isn't a big deal. Fiberglass and epoxy and fairing filler would work fine pre-paint. I did mine after painting. It's not really too easily noticed. > Tim > > > > On Jan 9, 2011, at 12:08 AM, David Leikam wrote: > >> >> How have others closed up the small opening or hole on each side of the fuselage, just below and aft of the leading edge of the wing? >> Thanks. >> >> David Leikam >> RV10 >> N89DA >> Gas in the wings, getting ready to light the fire! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:19:56 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: FWF kit recieved on Friday... From: "rv10flyer" Eight days from my call to Dale at Van's. After receiving it I am very happy with the quality. I spent about 5 min on the phone with Dale, 20 min running check to post office for certified mail. I left off 3 control cables, purchased longer RV-7 throttle cable from Van's. Purchased longer prop and mixture cables from ACS, another 5 min. Those two cables are due the beginning of Feb. The only thing I could see you might want to improve on would be the integral firesleeved hoses. Just two fuel hoses have slip on fire sleeve from Van's. My thinking was that probably less than 1% of the fatal crashes are caused from fire(just a guess). I will install an engine compartment fire detection system using fusible links for less than $50. I also have Van's $50 brass fuel selector. At that price I even bought a spare to keep in my tool bag with all four fittings installed just in case I get a leak when I am traveling far from home. With fittings installed I could change it out in 15 min. Very nice exhaust system from Larry Vetterman and my favorite was the MT prop governor made in Germany. I spent 3 yrs there in the Army. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08 Bldr# 40983 SB Fuselage 9/21/10- working on Sec 38 Rudder pedals/interior painting. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326185#326185 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:12 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: FWF kit recieved on Friday... I don't know if you have noted emails to the list in the past that the MT governor that Van's supplies is for a narrow deck engine. If you are going to use a wide deck engine you should have MT convert it to the correct gear ratio for wide deck engines, it is different from the narrow deck units. Kelly fiberglass hell On 1/9/2011 8:17 PM, rv10flyer wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "rv10flyer" > > Eight days from my call to Dale at Van's. After receiving it I am very happy with the quality. > > Very nice exhaust system from Larry Vetterman and my favorite was the MT prop governor made in Germany. I spent 3 yrs there in the Army. > > -------- > Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08 > Bldr# 40983 SB > Fuselage 9/21/10- working on Sec 38 Rudder pedals/interior painting. > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:25:37 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: FWF kit recieved on Friday... Narrow deck- rebuilt or used engine Wide deck- New engines -----Original Message----- From: Kelly McMullen Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 7:48 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: FWF kit recieved on Friday... I don't know if you have noted emails to the list in the past that the MT governor that Van's supplies is for a narrow deck engine. If you are going to use a wide deck engine you should have MT convert it to the correct gear ratio for wide deck engines, it is different from the narrow deck units. Kelly fiberglass hell On 1/9/2011 8:17 PM, rv10flyer wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "rv10flyer" > > Eight days from my call to Dale at Van's. After receiving it I am very > happy with the quality. > > Very nice exhaust system from Larry Vetterman and my favorite was the MT > prop governor made in Germany. I spent 3 yrs there in the Army. > > -------- > Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08 > Bldr# 40983 SB > Fuselage 9/21/10- working on Sec 38 Rudder pedals/interior painting. > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:31:51 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: FWF kit recieved on Friday... Yes, you won't get a new narrow deck engine, which is why it makes no sense that the only governor Van's sells is for a narrow deck engine. You can get new or overhauled wide deck engines as well. Just be sure you get governor with correct gear ratio for the engine you plan on using. On 1/9/2011 9:22 PM, Pascal wrote: > > Narrow deck- rebuilt or used engine > Wide deck- New engines > > -----Original Message----- From: Kelly McMullen > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 7:48 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: FWF kit recieved on Friday... > > > I don't know if you have noted emails to the list in the past that the > MT governor that Van's supplies is for a narrow deck engine. If you are > going to use a wide deck engine you should have MT convert it to the > correct gear ratio for wide deck engines, it is different from the > narrow deck units. > Kelly > fiberglass hell > > On 1/9/2011 8:17 PM, rv10flyer wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "rv10flyer" >> >> Eight days from my call to Dale at Van's. After receiving it I am >> very happy with the quality. >> >> Very nice exhaust system from Larry Vetterman and my favorite was the >> MT prop governor made in Germany. I spent 3 yrs there in the Army. >> >> -------- >> Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08 >> Bldr# 40983 SB >> Fuselage 9/21/10- working on Sec 38 Rudder pedals/interior painting. >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:58:50 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Engine heater From: "AirMike" I put the Reiff - Vans pads on my IO540 this fall. Gets the oil to 60 degrees overnight which is fine for start-up (after a 10 degree night). The Vans pads are 2x50W. I notice that the one that you are looking at is 150W - Overkill? I also note that the budget pad has no ground plug. I figure that with a $40K engine what the heck is $170 for a tried and true certified product. I also figure that with the Reiff product that there is a some liability trail if the product is defective. -------- See you OSH '11 Q/B - flying 1 yr+ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326203#326203 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:36:27 PM PST US From: "Gordon Anderson" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine Monitor Range/Alarm settings I just read Sonja Englert=92s book last night claiming that for a good engine break-in, the CHT needs to be above 400=B0F. No specifics or justification is given, but combined with Kelly=92s numbers below that would put you in the red for your first few hours of flight which would not seem such a good idea. Just a head=92s up. Gordon Anderson #41015 tailcone priming From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: 09 January 2011 21:58 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Monitor Range/Alarm settings Here are some conservative numbers: CHT, 380 F yellow, 400 red, 200-380 green Oil pressure, 25-50 yellow, 55-75 green,75-90 yellow, above that red Oil temp 160-220 green 220-240 yellow 240 red. Fuel pressure 20-28 green, below 18 and above 28 red, Fuel flow, above 27 or so red. That should get you started. Keep in mind that Lycoming operator's handbook red lines are NOT conservative...like CHT redline 475-500 in climb and 425 in cruise...much too hot. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Michael Kraus wrote: Does anyone have a list of engine monitor settings, like green-yellow-red settings for the engine parameters? I have an IO-540 in a RV-10. Just looking fir something to start with. 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