RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 01/12/11


Total Messages Posted: 22



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:07 AM - Re: Alieron trim and Roll server locations. (johngoodman)
     2. 07:39 AM - Re: Re: Alieron trim and Roll server locations. (Linn Walters)
     3. 07:40 AM - Re: Re: Alieron trim and Roll server locations. (Kelly McMullen)
     4. 07:50 AM - Re: Re: Alieron trim and Roll server locations. (Seano)
     5. 01:20 PM - Engine Mount Crack (rleffler)
     6. 05:40 PM - Finish Kit Wheel Replacement (Sean Stephens)
     7. 05:44 PM - Re: flaps (AirMike)
     8. 07:21 PM - Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement (Bob Leffler)
     9. 07:24 PM - Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement (Pascal)
    10. 07:37 PM - Mounting Main Wheel Question (Bob Leffler)
    11. 07:38 PM - New product (Rob Kermanj)
    12. 07:49 PM - Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement (Pascal)
    13. 07:52 PM - Leaking tanks (Bruce Johnson)
    14. 07:56 PM - Re: Mounting Main Wheel Question (Pascal)
    15. 08:11 PM - Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement (Sean Stephens)
    16. 08:26 PM - Re: Mounting Main Wheel Question (Kelly McMullen)
    17. 08:47 PM - Re: Mounting Main Wheel Question (Tim Olson)
    18. 08:54 PM - Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement (Pascal)
    19. 09:01 PM - Re: Mounting Main Wheel Question (Pascal)
    20. 10:25 PM - Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement (Dave Fritzsche (Building))
    21. 10:41 PM - Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement (Sean Stephens)
    22. 11:40 PM - Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement (Werner Schneider)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:07:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Alieron trim and Roll server locations.
    From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@EARTHLINK.NET>
    > What are most people using for the main wire conduits down the wings. John, I found Van's convoluted conduit - 3/4" - works just fine in the wings. It's a straight run so it's easy to pull wires, and you can cut a slit in it to pull out wire for something installed closer in. I would not recommend it for the fuselage. The fuselage requires lots of bends and turns to get from the tail to the panel. The convolutions cause jamming when trying to fish additional wires through. John[/quote] -------- #40572 Painted and the wings are on. N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326667#326667


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    Time: 07:39:17 AM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Alieron trim and Roll server locations.
    No matter what kind of conduit you install, it's very easy to use a shop vac to suck a string through the conduit. A small ball of tape or cotton ball will help. You can use the small string to pull a larger rope. Also, use 'monkey snot' lubricant when pulling wires. Home Depot or Lowes has it in the electrical dept. You can easily wipe the snot off after the wire(s) come out of the conduit. Linn On 1/12/2011 10:03 AM, johngoodman wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "johngoodman"<johngoodman@earthlink.net> > > >> What are most people using for the main wire conduits down the wings. > > John, I found Van's convoluted conduit - 3/4" - works just fine in the wings. It's a straight run so it's easy to pull wires, and you can cut a slit in it to pull out wire for something installed closer in. > I would not recommend it for the fuselage. The fuselage requires lots of bends and turns to get from the tail to the panel. The convolutions cause jamming when trying to fish additional wires through. > > > John[/quote] > > -------- > #40572 Painted and the wings are on. > N711JG reserved > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326667#326667 > >


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    Time: 07:40:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Alieron trim and Roll server locations.
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    I found that the weed whacker string trimmer line works very well as a fish line to pull wires. Put it in first and you can pull most any wire that will fit. What you say about the fuselage is true...had to pull heavy battery line and the other tail cone power leads through one at a time to get them all in the conduit. Took some back and forth to get past the curves in system. Black flex irrigation tubing might well work better. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:03 AM, johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net>wrote: > > > > What are most people using for the main wire conduits down the wings. > > > John, I found Van's convoluted conduit - 3/4" - works just fine in the > wings. It's a straight run so it's easy to pull wires, and you can cut a > slit in it to pull out wire for something installed closer in. > I would not recommend it for the fuselage. The fuselage requires lots of > bends and turns to get from the tail to the panel. The convolutions cause > jamming when trying to fish additional wires through. > > > John[/quote] > > -------- > #40572 Painted and the wings are on. > N711JG reserved > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326667#326667 > >


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    Time: 07:50:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Alieron trim and Roll server locations.
    From: Seano <sean@braunandco.com>
    I bought a nine dollar snake from harbor freight. It makes all the turns in my corrugated conduit really easy. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2011, at 8:22, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote: > I found that the weed whacker string trimmer line works very well as a fis h line to pull wires. Put it in first and you can pull most any wire that wi ll fit. What you say about the fuselage is true...had to pull heavy battery l ine and the other tail cone power leads through one at a time to get them al l in the conduit. Took some back and forth to get past the curves in system. > Black flex irrigation tubing might well work better. > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:03 AM, johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net> w rote: > > > > What are most people using for the main wire conduits down the wings. > > > John, I found Van's convoluted conduit - 3/4" - works just fine in the wi ngs. It's a straight run so it's easy to pull wires, and you can cut a slit i n it to pull out wire for something installed closer in. > I would not recommend it for the fuselage. The fuselage requires lots of b ends and turns to get from the tail to the panel. The convolutions cause jam ming when trying to fish additional wires through. > > > John[/quote] > > -------- > #40572 Painted and the wings are on. > N711JG reserved > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326667#326667 > > > > > > > > ========== > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 01:20:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Engine Mount Crack
    From: "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
    A link to an LAA article about a crack in their engine mount was just posted on VAF. Here's the link: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/jbtrellis/PDF_Docs/LAA_RV-10_Nosegear_Crack.pdf This is the first I've heard of the crack and thought others would be interested. bob -------- Bob Leffler N410BL - Finish RV-10 #40684 http://mykitlog.com/rleffler Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326733#326733 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/laa_rv_10_nosegear_crack_415.pdf


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    Time: 05:40:48 PM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement
    Getting ready to order the Finish Kit prior to the price increase. I am substituting a few items for aftermarket versions, but am having some trouble finding replacement part numbers for the wheels and tires. I believe the following items are from the Finish Kit with regards to wheels and tires that can be replaced? 2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10 2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10 1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR 1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6 1.00 U CLEVELAND 199-104A 6" RV-10 WHEELS SETS 1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS 1.00 U-1009 AXLE I believe the nose wheel NW501.25is replaced by Matco WHLNW511.25 and the U-1009 is replaced by the Matco Axle? Can the tubes be kept and just replace the tires and wheels? Is it just the nose wheel or the mains too? Is the CLEVELAND wheel sets part above kept even with the replacements? Thanks, -Sean #40303


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    Time: 05:44:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: flaps
    From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
    First thing that I would do is check that everything is lubricated and that nothing has seized. Mine are quite tight at the inboard end and I have used 3M anti-chafe tape to protect the metal and make the flaps move the last inch easily. That motor works pretty hard so check it out carefully. -------- See you OSH '11 Q/B - flying 1 yr+ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326780#326780


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    Time: 07:21:41 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement
    I just replaced the nose wheel and axel. Be sure to get the spacers for the axel too. I overlooked them initially. The Cleveland wheel set also includes your brakes, so you'll need to take that into consideration if you are planning on replacing those with Matco wheels too. I am having a problem with my nose wheel tube. It's only maintain air for about two days. I don't know if it's defective or if I may have pinched or punctured it myself. I guess I need to order a new tube. What do folks recommend? bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:28 PM Subject: RV10-List: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement Getting ready to order the Finish Kit prior to the price increase. I am substituting a few items for aftermarket versions, but am having some trouble finding replacement part numbers for the wheels and tires. I believe the following items are from the Finish Kit with regards to wheels and tires that can be replaced? 2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10 2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10 1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR 1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6 1.00 U CLEVELAND 199-104A 6" RV-10 WHEELS SETS 1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS 1.00 U-1009 AXLE I believe the nose wheel NW501.25is replaced by Matco WHLNW511.25 and the U-1009 is replaced by the Matco Axle? Can the tubes be kept and just replace the tires and wheels? Is it just the nose wheel or the mains too? Is the CLEVELAND wheel sets part above kept even with the replacements? Thanks, -Sean #40303


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    Time: 07:24:04 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement
    http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/ This site has the leakproof tubes and the tires. Vans gets the tires from this source so you can get the Airtrac but it also gives the option to take retread or new better tires as well. Get the Matco wheels and axle, should be able to use the cleveland set. Ask Matco when you call them. Besides the tires get the windscreen and wingtips as well. http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/Airframe-Parts/ Pascal -----Original Message----- From: Sean Stephens Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:28 PM Subject: RV10-List: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement Getting ready to order the Finish Kit prior to the price increase. I am substituting a few items for aftermarket versions, but am having some trouble finding replacement part numbers for the wheels and tires. I believe the following items are from the Finish Kit with regards to wheels and tires that can be replaced? 2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10 2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10 1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR 1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6 1.00 U CLEVELAND 199-104A 6" RV-10 WHEELS SETS 1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS 1.00 U-1009 AXLE I believe the nose wheel NW501.25is replaced by Matco WHLNW511.25 and the U-1009 is replaced by the Matco Axle? Can the tubes be kept and just replace the tires and wheels? Is it just the nose wheel or the mains too? Is the CLEVELAND wheel sets part above kept even with the replacements? Thanks, -Sean #40303


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    Time: 07:37:11 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: Mounting Main Wheel Question
    In starting to mount my main wheels this evening, it became quickly apparent that there was an issue with the cotter pin and the tire valve. There is almost no clearance between the valve cover and the axel nut. A side note, I really like the extensions that Tim had made for the community. Although I've had them for a while, I am extremely appreciative of what Tim did for the community and probably can't express my thanks often enough. Back on topic, I was curious as to how others dealt with this. I could crimp the end a little tighter so that the pin sits a little lower. Another option would be to bend the top over to be more flat on top of the nut. I'm not sure how AC43.13 handle the lack of clearance issue. Comments? Thanks, bob


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    Time: 07:38:15 PM PST US
    Subject: New product
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    I wanted to let everyone know about a product I have discovered that keep yo u leading edges really clean. I would actually use the product over my entir e plane if I was proud of my paint job and did not have future plans to repa int. I have used Ceramlock 850 (www.ceramlock.com) coating on the leading edges o f my RV10. Flying in florida during the summer season leaves an impossible a mount of bug juice on the leading edges. This product has saved the time an d the pain of cleaning bugs from my leading edges after each flight. A simpl e swipe of even a dry rag cleans the bugs. My plane always looks clean and I do not have to use cleaning chemicals afte r each flight. Best of all, it only takes less than an hour to apply the pro duct. Disclosure: I was offered to test the product for free by another user and w ould not recommend it unless I thought it was worthwhile. Do not archive Sent from my iPad


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    Time: 07:49:58 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement
    http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=14581&highlight=desser+retread http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/15%7B47%7D600%252d6-Aero-Classic-Leakguard-Tube.html http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/Aero-Classic-500%252d5-Leakguard-Tube.html -----Original Message----- From: Bob Leffler Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:13 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement I just replaced the nose wheel and axel. Be sure to get the spacers for the axel too. I overlooked them initially. The Cleveland wheel set also includes your brakes, so you'll need to take that into consideration if you are planning on replacing those with Matco wheels too. I am having a problem with my nose wheel tube. It's only maintain air for about two days. I don't know if it's defective or if I may have pinched or punctured it myself. I guess I need to order a new tube. What do folks recommend? bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:28 PM Subject: RV10-List: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement Getting ready to order the Finish Kit prior to the price increase. I am substituting a few items for aftermarket versions, but am having some trouble finding replacement part numbers for the wheels and tires. I believe the following items are from the Finish Kit with regards to wheels and tires that can be replaced? 2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10 2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10 1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR 1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6 1.00 U CLEVELAND 199-104A 6" RV-10 WHEELS SETS 1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS 1.00 U-1009 AXLE I believe the nose wheel NW501.25is replaced by Matco WHLNW511.25 and the U-1009 is replaced by the Matco Axle? Can the tubes be kept and just replace the tires and wheels? Is it just the nose wheel or the mains too? Is the CLEVELAND wheel sets part above kept even with the replacements? Thanks, -Sean #40303


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    Time: 07:52:08 PM PST US
    From: Bruce Johnson <bruce1hwjohnson@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Leaking tanks
    Has anybody else had problems with the quick build tanks leaking. Mine seem to be leaking around the outlet port. The sealant they used is turning gummy and it is more of a seep than a leak.I cant believe they used rivets on that particular piece as there is no way to snug them a little.Any ideas on how to remedy this?


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    Time: 07:56:55 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Mounting Main Wheel Question
    Hence the Matco solution. Basically Vans will tell you to remove the valve cover and it will be fine, that is what they did with the demo plane. I ended up paying $60 and sent my wheels back to Matco , they sent me the correct setup that allows the clearance you need. If it was untouched MAtco was replacing the wheels for $20. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Leffler Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:31 PM Subject: RV10-List: Mounting Main Wheel Question In starting to mount my main wheels this evening, it became quickly apparent that there was an issue with the cotter pin and the tire valve. There is almost no clearance between the valve cover and the axel nut. A side note, I really like the extensions that Tim had made for the community. Although I've had them for a while, I am extremely appreciative of what Tim did for the community and probably can't express my thanks often enough. Back on topic, I was curious as to how others dealt with this. I could crimp the end a little tighter so that the pin sits a little lower. Another option would be to bend the top over to be more flat on top of the nut. I'm not sure how AC43.13 handle the lack of clearance issue. Comments? Thanks, bob


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    Time: 08:11:56 PM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement
    Thanks guys. I'll probably just start out with replacing the nose wheel and axle with a Matco WHLNW511.25 and Matco Axle and maybe getting the leakguard tubes. Seems vansaircrafttires doesn't have a leakguard tube for the 500-5 nose tire? -Sean #40303 On 1/12/11 9:20 PM, Pascal wrote: > > http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/ > This site has the leakproof tubes and the tires. Vans gets the tires > from this source so you can get the Airtrac but it also gives the > option to take retread or new better tires as well. > Get the Matco wheels and axle, should be able to use the cleveland > set. Ask Matco when you call them. > > Besides the tires get the windscreen and wingtips as well. > http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/Airframe-Parts/ > > Pascal > > -----Original Message----- From: Sean Stephens > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:28 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement > > > Getting ready to order the Finish Kit prior to the price increase. I am > substituting a few items for aftermarket versions, but am having some > trouble finding replacement part numbers for the wheels and tires. I > believe the following items are from the Finish Kit with regards to > wheels and tires that can be replaced? > > 2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10 > 2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10 > 1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR > 1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6 > 1.00 U CLEVELAND 199-104A 6" RV-10 WHEELS SETS > 1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS > 1.00 U-1009 AXLE > > I believe the nose wheel NW501.25is replaced by Matco WHLNW511.25 and > the U-1009 is replaced by the Matco Axle? > > Can the tubes be kept and just replace the tires and wheels? Is it just > the nose wheel or the mains too? Is the CLEVELAND wheel sets part above > kept even with the replacements? > > Thanks, > > -Sean #40303 > >


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    Time: 08:26:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mounting Main Wheel Question
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    I think you are talking about the nose wheel and Bob is talking about the mains. Not sure it is the same issue. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Pascal <rv10builder@verizon.net> wrote: > > Hence the Matco solution. Basically Vans will tell you to remove the valve > cover and it will be fine, that is what they did with the demo plane. > I ended up paying $60 and sent my wheels back to Matco , they sent me the > correct setup that allows the clearance you need. If it was untouched MAtco > was replacing the wheels for $20. > > -----Original Message----- From: Bob Leffler > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:31 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Mounting Main Wheel Question > > > In starting to mount my main wheels this evening, it became quickly > apparent > that there was an issue with the cotter pin and the tire valve. There is > almost no clearance between the valve cover and the axel nut. > > > A side note, I really like the extensions that Tim had made for the > community. Although I've had them for a while, I am extremely appreciative > of what Tim did for the community and probably can't express my thanks > often > enough. > > > Back on topic, I was curious as to how others dealt with this. I could > crimp the end a little tighter so that the pin sits a little lower. > Another > option would be to bend the top over to be more flat on top of the nut. > I'm > not sure how AC43.13 handle the lack of clearance issue. > > > Comments? > > > Thanks, > > > bob > >


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    Time: 08:47:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mounting Main Wheel Question
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    I think he's talking a different problem...the mains. I haven't had a big issue with the mains. I got some big cotter pins that don't stick out a lot of excess and when I bend the ears over it clears fine. Sure, it's close sometimes, but it always clears. You want to buy 100 of the right size cotter pins, because you throw them away every tire dismount. I think if I remember right, my original ones were slightly longer and I snipped the tips. The ones I use now are just about perfect. They are a pain to install, cuz you have to arch them a little as you install them, and then straighten them out to get them through the far hole. My worry has been that if the ears rotate, they could scrape the seal cover ring but that's not happened so far. So unless you have a different clearance than me, Bob, I think it should be workable. Thanks for the comment on the extensions....haven't heard of any breaking and there are over 160 sets out there so we must be at least doing better than stock. ;) Tim On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:54 PM, "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net> wrote: > > Hence the Matco solution. Basically Vans will tell you to remove the valve cover and it will be fine, that is what they did with the demo plane. > I ended up paying $60 and sent my wheels back to Matco , they sent me the correct setup that allows the clearance you need. If it was untouched MAtco was replacing the wheels for $20. > > -----Original Message----- From: Bob Leffler > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:31 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Mounting Main Wheel Question > > > > In starting to mount my main wheels this evening, it became quickly apparent > that there was an issue with the cotter pin and the tire valve. There is > almost no clearance between the valve cover and the axel nut. > > > > A side note, I really like the extensions that Tim had made for the > community. Although I've had them for a while, I am extremely appreciative > of what Tim did for the community and probably can't express my thanks often > enough. > > > > Back on topic, I was curious as to how others dealt with this. I could > crimp the end a little tighter so that the pin sits a little lower. Another > option would be to bend the top over to be more flat on top of the nut. I'm > not sure how AC43.13 handle the lack of clearance issue. > > > > Comments? > > > > Thanks, > > > > bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:54:29 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement
    Replace the windscreen and wingtips, both the same price as Vans, but better quality and less work to make them fit, as they are 1/8 off all around from being a perfect fit as received. Here are both tube links http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/15%7B47%7D600%252d6-Aero-Classic-Leakguard-Tube.html http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/Aero-Classic-500%252d5-Leakguard-Tube.html Retreads are better and less expensive than the stock tires. core is Goodyear FC III usually and weight is not much different than the stocks. I will replace mie with the retreads when the time comes.. for more info check out Tim's review and Aviation consumer news (articles tab of Desser home page) -----Original Message----- From: Sean Stephens Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:09 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement Thanks guys. I'll probably just start out with replacing the nose wheel and axle with a Matco WHLNW511.25 and Matco Axle and maybe getting the leakguard tubes. Seems vansaircrafttires doesn't have a leakguard tube for the 500-5 nose tire? -Sean #40303 On 1/12/11 9:20 PM, Pascal wrote: > > http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/ > This site has the leakproof tubes and the tires. Vans gets the tires from > this source so you can get the Airtrac but it also gives the option to > take retread or new better tires as well. > Get the Matco wheels and axle, should be able to use the cleveland set. > Ask Matco when you call them. > > Besides the tires get the windscreen and wingtips as well. > http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/Airframe-Parts/ > > Pascal > > -----Original Message----- From: Sean Stephens > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:28 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement > > > Getting ready to order the Finish Kit prior to the price increase. I am > substituting a few items for aftermarket versions, but am having some > trouble finding replacement part numbers for the wheels and tires. I > believe the following items are from the Finish Kit with regards to > wheels and tires that can be replaced? > > 2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10 > 2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10 > 1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR > 1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6 > 1.00 U CLEVELAND 199-104A 6" RV-10 WHEELS SETS > 1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS > 1.00 U-1009 AXLE > > I believe the nose wheel NW501.25is replaced by Matco WHLNW511.25 and > the U-1009 is replaced by the Matco Axle? > > Can the tubes be kept and just replace the tires and wheels? Is it just > the nose wheel or the mains too? Is the CLEVELAND wheel sets part above > kept even with the replacements? > > Thanks, > > -Sean #40303 > >


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    Time: 09:01:39 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Mounting Main Wheel Question
    good point! It is a different issue forget Matco solution, but =9CBasically Vans will tell you to remove the valve cover and it will be fine, that is what they did with the demo plane.=9D stays. I did go out and looked and there is minimal clearance, but should not be an issue, especially if the valve cover is removed. From: Kelly McMullen Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:21 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Mounting Main Wheel Question I think you are talking about the nose wheel and Bob is talking about the mains. Not sure it is the same issue. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Pascal <rv10builder@verizon.net> wrote: Hence the Matco solution. Basically Vans will tell you to remove the valve cover and it will be fine, that is what they did with the demo plane. I ended up paying $60 and sent my wheels back to Matco , they sent me the correct setup that allows the clearance you need. If it was untouched MAtco was replacing the wheels for $20. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Leffler Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:31 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Mounting Main Wheel Question In starting to mount my main wheels this evening, it became quickly apparent that there was an issue with the cotter pin and the tire valve. There is almost no clearance between the valve cover and the axel nut. A side note, I really like the extensions that Tim had made for the community. Although I've had them for a while, I am extremely appreciative of what Tim did for the community and probably can't express my thanks often enough. Back on topic, I was curious as to how others dealt with this. I could crimp the end a little tighter so that the pin sits a little lower. Another option would be to bend the top over to be more flat on top of the nut. I'm not sure how AC43.13 handle the lack of clearance issue. Comments? Thanks, bob ========== arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ==========


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    Time: 10:25:30 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Fritzsche (Building)" <fritzsch@eskimo.com>
    Subject: Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement
    I am a little confused. I purchased a quick-build fuselage and it came with the windscreen. The wingtips came with the self-build wing kit. But I get the impression that these come with the finish kit from the text below. Am I missing something? I guess it is too late for me to consider these products from vanaircrafttires. In a more confused state than usual. Dave -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Fritzsche 40813 Puyallup, WA Wings ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 1/12/2011 8:52 PM, Pascal wrote: > > Replace the windscreen and wingtips, both the same price as Vans, but > better quality and less work to make them fit, as they are 1/8 off all > around from being a perfect fit as received. > Here are both tube links > http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/15%7B47%7D600%252d6-Aero-Classic-Leakguard-Tube.html > > http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/Aero-Classic-500%252d5-Leakguard-Tube.html > > > Retreads are better and less expensive than the stock tires. core is > Goodyear FC III usually and weight is not much different than the > stocks. I will replace mie with the retreads when the time comes.. for > more info check out Tim's review and Aviation consumer news (articles > tab of Desser home page) > > > -----Original Message----- From: Sean Stephens > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:09 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement > > > Thanks guys. I'll probably just start out with replacing the nose wheel > and axle with a Matco WHLNW511.25 and Matco Axle and maybe getting the > leakguard tubes. Seems vansaircrafttires doesn't have a leakguard tube > for the 500-5 nose tire? > > -Sean #40303 > > On 1/12/11 9:20 PM, Pascal wrote: >> >> http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/ >> This site has the leakproof tubes and the tires. Vans gets the tires >> from this source so you can get the Airtrac but it also gives the >> option to take retread or new better tires as well. >> Get the Matco wheels and axle, should be able to use the cleveland >> set. Ask Matco when you call them. >> >> Besides the tires get the windscreen and wingtips as well. >> http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/Airframe-Parts/ >> >> Pascal >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Sean Stephens >> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:28 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement >> >> >> Getting ready to order the Finish Kit prior to the price increase. I am >> substituting a few items for aftermarket versions, but am having some >> trouble finding replacement part numbers for the wheels and tires. I >> believe the following items are from the Finish Kit with regards to >> wheels and tires that can be replaced? >> >> 2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10 >> 2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10 >> 1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR >> 1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6 >> 1.00 U CLEVELAND 199-104A 6" RV-10 WHEELS SETS >> 1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS >> 1.00 U-1009 AXLE >> >> I believe the nose wheel NW501.25is replaced by Matco WHLNW511.25 and >> the U-1009 is replaced by the Matco Axle? >> >> Can the tubes be kept and just replace the tires and wheels? Is it just >> the nose wheel or the mains too? Is the CLEVELAND wheel sets part above >> kept even with the replacements? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Sean #40303 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 10:41:00 PM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement
    No, you are correct. I just asked about the finish kit and Pascal threw in a promo for the other items as well. :) On 1/13/11 12:22 AM, Dave Fritzsche (Building) wrote: > <fritzsch@eskimo.com> > > I am a little confused. I purchased a quick-build fuselage and it > came with the windscreen. The wingtips came with the self-build wing > kit. But I get the impression that these come with the finish kit > from the text below. Am I missing something? I guess it is too late > for me to consider these products from vanaircrafttires. > > In a more confused state than usual. > > Dave >


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    Time: 11:40:31 PM PST US
    From: Werner Schneider <glastar@gmx.net>
    Subject: Re: Finish Kit Wheel Replacement
    Sean, for the nosewheel: remove from Finishing Kit: 1x U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS 1x U-1009 AXLE NOSE WHEEL order from Matco: http://www.matcomfg.com/AXLEASSEMBLYA24125INCH-idv-3657-1.html http://www.matcomfg.com/SPACERAXLE24KIT-idv-3681-44.html http://www.matcomfg.com/NOSEWHEEL5125-idv-2839-6.html that is: 1x WHLAXLE24 56.24$ 1x WHLA24SPKIT 1x WHLNW511.25 That is what I did, not yet mounted but should be the correct items, maybe Michael did as I ordered also a set for him. Werner #41122 empenage (reserved HB-YPK) #5794 flying (HB-YKP) On 13.01.2011 02:28, Sean Stephens wrote: > > Getting ready to order the Finish Kit prior to the price increase. I am > substituting a few items for aftermarket versions, but am having some > trouble finding replacement part numbers for the wheels and tires. I > believe the following items are from the Finish Kit with regards to > wheels and tires that can be replaced? > > 2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10 > 2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10 > 1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR > 1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6 > 1.00 U CLEVELAND 199-104A 6" RV-10 WHEELS SETS > 1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS > 1.00 U-1009 AXLE > > I believe the nose wheel NW501.25is replaced by Matco WHLNW511.25 and > the U-1009 is replaced by the Matco Axle? > > Can the tubes be kept and just replace the tires and wheels? Is it just > the nose wheel or the mains too? Is the CLEVELAND wheel sets part above > kept even with the replacements? > > Thanks, > > -Sean #40303 > >




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