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1. 06:08 AM - voltage regulators/alternator (John Gonzalez)
2. 06:43 AM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (Kelly McMullen)
3. 06:44 AM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (Tim Olson)
4. 07:07 AM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (Kelly McMullen)
5. 07:16 AM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (Kelly McMullen)
6. 07:53 AM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (pilotdds)
7. 07:54 AM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (Seano)
8. 08:37 AM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (Jesse Saint)
9. 09:07 AM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (John Gonzalez)
10. 09:09 AM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (DLM)
11. 09:23 AM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (Tim Olson)
12. 09:48 AM - How much oil for first fill? (Rob Kochman)
13. 10:09 AM - Re: How much oil for first fill? (Marcus Cooper)
14. 10:11 AM - Re: How much oil for first fill? (Rene Felker)
15. 10:37 AM - Re: How much oil for first fill? (Tim Olson)
16. 11:10 AM - Re: How much oil for first fill? (Bruce Johnson)
17. 12:00 PM - Re: How much oil for first fill? (Tim Olson)
18. 01:04 PM - Re: How much oil for first fill? (Rob Kochman)
19. 01:50 PM - HID Landing Lights (Dave Fritzsche (Building))
20. 02:36 PM - Re: HID Landing Lights (Tim Olson)
21. 02:43 PM - Re: HID Landing Lights (Danny Riggs)
22. 02:52 PM - Re: HID Landing Lights (Strasnuts)
23. 04:17 PM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (Kelly McMullen)
24. 04:47 PM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (Jesse Saint)
25. 05:35 PM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (Patrick Thyssen)
26. 05:50 PM - Interior Shop Recommendation (Dick & Vicki Sipp)
27. 06:14 PM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (Kelly McMullen)
28. 06:25 PM - Re: voltage regulators/alternator (Tim Olson)
29. 06:45 PM - Re: Interior Shop Recommendation (Rene)
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| Subject: | voltage regulators/alternator |
I thought I was going to mount my alternator this weekend and finish everyt
hing up. Again no instruction in the box for the Plane Power alternator=2C
so I looked online and found the installation instructions.
WHere do I purchase the R1224 regulator? I didn't see it on Vans site or AC
S.
Silly me to think the gum balls would actually come in the gum ball machine
.
John
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulators/alternator |
http://www.plane-power.com/R1224.htm
http://www.plane-power.com/dealers.htm
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/planePowerSAL.php
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/airsec/Aircraft/ElectricalSystem/Alternators.html
Airpower has it as well for $150, Chief 155 and the rest of the dealers
shown seem to want $168.
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:04 AM, John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>wrote:
> I thought I was going to mount my alternator this weekend and finish
> everything up. Again no instruction in the box for the Plane Power
> alternator, so I looked online and found the installation instructions.
>
> WHere do I purchase the R1224 regulator? I didn't see it on Vans site or
> ACS.
>
> Silly me to think the gum balls would actually come in the gum ball
> machine.
>
> John
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulators/alternator |
What alternator did you get that requires a regulator? Most
of the plane-Power's that people are using are coming
with the built-in regulator and there's very little that
needs to be wired.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 1/20/2011 8:04 AM, John Gonzalez wrote:
> I thought I was going to mount my alternator this weekend and finish
> everything up. Again no instruction in the box for the Plane Power
> alternator, so I looked online and found the installation instructions.
>
> WHere do I purchase the R1224 regulator? I didn't see it on Vans site or
> ACS.
>
> Silly me to think the gum balls would actually come in the gum ball machine.
>
> John
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulators/alternator |
Plane power sells both varieties. Opinions vary about the merits of built-in
regulators in an aircraft setting where it is desirable to be able to turn
off all alternator output. Depends on your outlook as to who will be fixing
any electrical problems after a failure, given that most A&Ps are only
familiar with externally regulated alternators that exist on certified
planes. The point being internal vs external alternator regulation is to the
AeroElectric email list what primer debates are to most OBAM lists like this
one.
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> What alternator did you get that requires a regulator? Most
> of the plane-Power's that people are using are coming
> with the built-in regulator and there's very little that
> needs to be wired.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 1/20/2011 8:04 AM, John Gonzalez wrote:
>
>> I thought I was going to mount my alternator this weekend and finish
>> everything up. Again no instruction in the box for the Plane Power
>> alternator, so I looked online and found the installation instructions.
>>
>> WHere do I purchase the R1224 regulator? I didn't see it on Vans site or
>> ACS.
>>
>> Silly me to think the gum balls would actually come in the gum ball
>> machine.
>>
>> John
>>
>> *
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulators/alternator |
OTOH, Tim maybe correct. Verify which model you have from Plane Power to
see whether it needs external regulator, or if it already has one
built-in. I sorta recall Van's favoring the internally regulated versions.
On 1/20/2011 8:02 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> Plane power sells both varieties. Opinions vary about the merits of
> built-in regulators in an aircraft setting where it is desirable to be
> able to turn off all alternator output. Depends on your outlook as to
> who will be fixing any electrical problems after a failure, given that
> most A&Ps are only familiar with externally regulated alternators that
> exist on certified planes. The point being internal vs external
> alternator regulation is to the AeroElectric email list what primer
> debates are to most OBAM lists like this one.
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>> wrote:
>
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
>
> What alternator did you get that requires a regulator? Most
> of the plane-Power's that people are using are coming
> with the built-in regulator and there's very little that
> needs to be wired.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 1/20/2011 8:04 AM, John Gonzalez wrote:
>
> I thought I was going to mount my alternator this weekend and
> finish
> everything up. Again no instruction in the box for the Plane Power
> alternator, so I looked online and found the installation
> instructions.
>
> WHere do I purchase the R1224 regulator? I didn't see it on
> Vans site or
> ACS.
>
> Silly me to think the gum balls would actually come in the gum
> ball machine.
>
> John
>
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulators/alternator |
The plane power alternator that vans sells is internally regulated and has
built in over voltage protection-much simpler wiring,so John, relax.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:17 am
Subject: Re: RV10-List: voltage regulators/alternator
OTOH, Tim maybe correct. Verify which model you have from Plane Power to
ee whether it needs external regulator, or if it already has one
uilt-in. I sorta recall Van's favoring the internally regulated versions.
n 1/20/2011 8:02 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
Plane power sells both varieties. Opinions vary about the merits of
built-in regulators in an aircraft setting where it is desirable to be
able to turn off all alternator output. Depends on your outlook as to
who will be fixing any electrical problems after a failure, given that
most A&Ps are only familiar with externally regulated alternators that
exist on certified planes. The point being internal vs external
alternator regulation is to the AeroElectric email list what primer
debates are to most OBAM lists like this one.
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com
<mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>> wrote:
<mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
What alternator did you get that requires a regulator? Most
of the plane-Power's that people are using are coming
with the built-in regulator and there's very little that
needs to be wired.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 1/20/2011 8:04 AM, John Gonzalez wrote:
I thought I was going to mount my alternator this weekend and
finish
everything up. Again no instruction in the box for the Plane Power
alternator, so I looked online and found the installation
instructions.
WHere do I purchase the R1224 regulator? I didn't see it on
Vans site or
ACS.
Silly me to think the gum balls would actually come in the gum
ball machine.
John
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulators/alternator |
My planepower from vans has the internal regulator.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 20, 2011, at 8:14, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
>
> OTOH, Tim maybe correct. Verify which model you have from Plane Power to see
whether it needs external regulator, or if it already has one built-in. I sorta
recall Van's favoring the internally regulated versions.
>
>
> On 1/20/2011 8:02 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>> Plane power sells both varieties. Opinions vary about the merits of built-in
regulators in an aircraft setting where it is desirable to be able to turn off
all alternator output. Depends on your outlook as to who will be fixing any
electrical problems after a failure, given that most A&Ps are only familiar with
externally regulated alternators that exist on certified planes. The point
being internal vs external alternator regulation is to the AeroElectric email
list what primer debates are to most OBAM lists like this one.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>> wrote:
>>
>> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
>>
>> What alternator did you get that requires a regulator? Most
>> of the plane-Power's that people are using are coming
>> with the built-in regulator and there's very little that
>> needs to be wired.
>>
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/20/2011 8:04 AM, John Gonzalez wrote:
>>
>> I thought I was going to mount my alternator this weekend and
>> finish
>> everything up. Again no instruction in the box for the Plane Power
>> alternator, so I looked online and found the installation
>> instructions.
>>
>> WHere do I purchase the R1224 regulator? I didn't see it on
>> Vans site or
>> ACS.
>>
>> Silly me to think the gum balls would actually come in the gum
>> ball machine.
>>
>> John
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulators/alternator |
You can turn off the Alt Field on the internally regulated alternator just like
you would from an externally regulated one, right? If the alternator or regulator
fails, you replace it or send it in for repair, or have someone locally
repair it if there are still people around that do that. Oh, btw, I use the Akzo
Nobel 2-part epoxy primer on all internal parts.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> Plane power sells both varieties. Opinions vary about the merits of built-in
regulators in an aircraft setting where it is desirable to be able to turn off
all alternator output. Depends on your outlook as to who will be fixing any electrical
problems after a failure, given that most A&Ps are only familiar with
externally regulated alternators that exist on certified planes. The point being
internal vs external alternator regulation is to the AeroElectric email list
what primer debates are to most OBAM lists like this one.
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| Subject: | voltage regulators/alternator |
I am cementing PJC crowns 23-27 and veneer of 22....relax...sho are you kid
dding!!!!
Not at home to look at the box=2C but I do know the alternator has a built
in over voltage protection.
Subject: Re: RV10-List: voltage regulators/alternator
From: pilotdds@aol.com
The plane power alternator that vans sells is internally regulated and has
built in over voltage protection-much simpler wiring=2Cso John=2C relax.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
Sent: Thu=2C Jan 20=2C 2011 7:17 am
Subject: Re: RV10-List: voltage regulators/alternator
OTOH=2C Tim maybe correct. Verify which model you have from Plane Power to
see whether it needs external regulator=2C or if it already has one
built-in. I sorta recall Van's favoring the internally regulated versions.
On 1/20/2011 8:02 AM=2C Kelly McMullen wrote:
> Plane power sells both varieties. Opinions vary about the merits of
> built-in regulators in an aircraft setting where it is desirable to be
> able to turn off all alternator output. Depends on your outlook as to
> who will be fixing any electrical problems after a failure=2C given that
> most A&Ps are only familiar with externally regulated alternators that
> exist on certified planes. The point being internal vs external
> alternator regulation is to the AeroElectric email list what primer
> debates are to most OBAM lists like this one.
>
> On Thu=2C Jan 20=2C 2011 at 7:41 AM=2C Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>> wrote:
>
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
>
> What alternator did you get that requires a regulator? Most
> of the plane-Power's that people are using are coming
> with the built-in regulator and there's very little that
> needs to be wired.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 1/20/2011 8:04 AM=2C John Gonzalez wrote:
>
> I thought I was going to mount my alternator this weekend and
> finish
> everything up. Again no instruction in the box for the Plane Powe
r
> alternator=2C so I looked online and found the installation
> instructions.
>
> WHere do I purchase the R1224 regulator? I didn't see it on
> Vans site or
> ACS.
>
> Silly me to think the gum balls would actually come in the gum
> ball machine.
>
> John
>
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulators/alternator |
yes, I just turn off the W31 5A breaker to shut off the alternator output.
Replacing the integrated diodes,regulator and brushes is a single field
installed part ; cost me about $50. But of course did not solve the problem
in my case.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: voltage regulators/alternator
>
> You can turn off the Alt Field on the internally regulated alternator just
> like you would from an externally regulated one, right? If the alternator
> or regulator fails, you replace it or send it in for repair, or have
> someone locally repair it if there are still people around that do that.
> Oh, btw, I use the Akzo Nobel 2-part epoxy primer on all internal parts.
>
> do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
>> Plane power sells both varieties. Opinions vary about the merits of
>> built-in regulators in an aircraft setting where it is desirable to be
>> able to turn off all alternator output. Depends on your outlook as to who
>> will be fixing any electrical problems after a failure, given that most
>> A&Ps are only familiar with externally regulated alternators that exist
>> on certified planes. The point being internal vs external alternator
>> regulation is to the AeroElectric email list what primer debates are to
>> most OBAM lists like this one.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulators/alternator |
If it has built-in OVP, then it's internally regulated. In that
case you don't need a regulator. I understand Kelly's
original statement from that perspective. I was just
basically operating under the understanding that most people
building RV-10's that have Plane-power alternators from Van's,
were getting internally regulated and OVP'd alternators,
and if that were true, you shouldn't have a need to buy
a regulator. The wiring is also dead simple.
The one gotcha I can add....before I did my first flight,
I thought I had an alternator problem. Turns out I didn't
push hard enough on the connector on the rear of the
alternator to click in the connector, and it had come
loose. So, when you connect that connector, make sure you
push it in until you get a definite click.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 1/20/2011 11:04 AM, John Gonzalez wrote:
> I am cementing PJC crowns 23-27 and veneer of 22....relax...sho are you
> kiddding!!!!
>
> Not at home to look at the box, but I do know the alternator has a built
> in over voltage protection.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: voltage regulators/alternator
> From: pilotdds@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:47:49 -0500
>
> The plane power alternator that vans sells is internally regulated and
> has built in over voltage protection-much simpler wiring,so John, relax.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
> To: rv10-list <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:17 am
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: voltage regulators/alternator
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen<kellym@aviating.com <mailto:kellym@aviating.com>>
>
> OTOH, Tim maybe correct. Verify which model you have from Plane Power to
> see whether it needs external regulator, or if it already has one
> built-in. I sorta recall Van's favoring the internally regulated versions.
>
>
> On 1/20/2011 8:02 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>> Plane power sells both varieties. Opinions vary about the merits of
>> built-in regulators in an aircraft setting where it is desirable to be
>> able to turn off all alternator output. Depends on your outlook as to
>> who will be fixing any electrical problems after a failure, given that
>> most A&Ps are only familiar with externally regulated alternators that
>> exist on certified planes. The point being internal vs external
>> alternator regulation is to the AeroElectric email list what primer
>> debates are to most OBAM lists like this one.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>
>> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com?>>> wrote:
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>
>> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com?>>>
>>
>> What alternator did you get that requires a regulator? Most
>> of the plane-Power's that people are using are coming
>> with the built-in regulator and there's very little that
>> needs to be wired.
>>
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/20/2011 8:04 AM, John Gonzalez wrote:
>>
>> I thought I was going to mount my alternator this weekend and
>> finish
>> everything up. Again no instruction in the box for the Plane Power
>> alternator, so I looked online and found the installation
>> instructions.
>>
>> WHere do I purchase the R1224 regulator? I didn't see it on
>> Vans site or
>> ACS.
>>
>> Silly me to think the gum balls would actually come in the gum
>> ball machine.
>>
>> John
>>
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| Subject: | How much oil for first fill? |
How much oil are you guys putting in your (I)O-540 when filling it for the
first time? Seems like most people run 8-9 quarts, so I'm thinking 10 would
be good (to fill the lines, oil cooler, etc).
Hoping to do the first engine start this weekend.
Thanks...
-Rob
--
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RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | How much oil for first fill? |
Rob,
I think you have a good hack on it. I would start with 9-10, plenty to
get it running and then run around 9 on the dipstick. I've have the same
model engine in both my RV-10 and a Skybolt and it seems like anything more
than 9 ends up in the slipstream as wasted money.
Good luck with the engine run, clearly one of the more memorable and
motivating parts of the project.
Marcus
Do not archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:45 PM
Subject: RV10-List: How much oil for first fill?
How much oil are you guys putting in your (I)O-540 when filling it for the
first time? Seems like most people run 8-9 quarts, so I'm thinking 10 would
be good (to fill the lines, oil cooler, etc).
Hoping to do the first engine start this weekend.
Thanks...
-Rob
--
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RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | How much oil for first fill? |
I filled my oil cooler when I mounted it (which is recommended) and put 11
Quarts in for first run.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:45 AM
Subject: RV10-List: How much oil for first fill?
How much oil are you guys putting in your (I)O-540 when filling it for the
first time? Seems like most people run 8-9 quarts, so I'm thinking 10 would
be good (to fill the lines, oil cooler, etc).
Hoping to do the first engine start this weekend.
Thanks...
-Rob
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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I too filled mine (oil cooler) and I think did 10 or 11 quarts.
I knew 12 would be overkill but wanted to be well above the blow out zone.
Tim
On Jan 20, 2011, at 12:08 PM, "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> wrote:
> I filled my oil cooler when I mounted it (which is recommended) and put 11
Quarts in for first run.
>
>
>
> Rene' Felker
>
> N423CF
>
> 801-721-6080
>
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:45 AM
> To: rv10-list
> Subject: RV10-List: How much oil for first fill?
>
>
>
> How much oil are you guys putting in your (I)O-540 when filling it for the
first time? Seems like most people run 8-9 quarts, so I'm thinking 10 woul
d be good (to fill the lines, oil cooler, etc).
>
>
>
> Hoping to do the first engine start this weekend.
>
>
>
> Thanks...
>
>
>
> -Rob
>
> --
> Rob Kochman
> RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
> Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
> http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: How much oil for first fill? |
I put 10 in mine and it shows a little over 8 on the dip stick. I have moun
ted 2 =0Aoil coolers and have the 1/2 quart-filter.-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____
____________________________=0AFrom: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com>=0ATo:
rv10-list <rv10-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Thu, January 20, 2011 10:44:47
AM=0ASubject: RV10-List: How much oil for first fill?=0A=0A=0AHow much oil
are you guys putting in your (I)O-540 when filling it for the first =0Atime
?- Seems like most people run 8-9 quarts, so I'm thinking 10 would be goo
d =0A(to fill the lines, oil cooler, etc).- =0A=0A=0AHoping to do the fir
st engine start this weekend.=0A=0AThanks...=0A=0A-Rob=0A=0A-- =0ARob Kochm
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| Subject: | Re: How much oil for first fill? |
You know, I need to retract what I said below. I just remembered
that indeed I filled it to 12 on the first run. Only the first
10 hours though. I did that because I needed to do it to
do the dipstick markings anyway. I filled the filter, and
the hoses as best as I could, then filled the sump and started
marking off quarts. So my 8qt mark actually includes the
oil cooler and filter to some extent, I think. But I did
run it up to 12 quarts so I could mark up to 12 on the stick.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
On 1/20/2011 12:35 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
> I too filled mine (oil cooler) and I think did 10 or 11 quarts.
> I knew 12 would be overkill but wanted to be well above the blow out zone.
> Tim
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 12:08 PM, "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com
> <mailto:rene@felker.com>> wrote:
>
>> I filled my oil cooler when I mounted it (which is recommended) and
>> put 11 Quarts in for first run.
>>
>> Rene' Felker
>>
>> N423CF
>>
>> 801-721-6080
>>
>> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rob Kochman
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:45 AM
>> *To:* rv10-list
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: How much oil for first fill?
>>
>> How much oil are you guys putting in your (I)O-540 when filling it for
>> the first time? Seems like most people run 8-9 quarts, so I'm thinking
>> 10 would be good (to fill the lines, oil cooler, etc).
>>
>> Hoping to do the first engine start this weekend.
>>
>> Thanks...
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> --
>> Rob Kochman
>> RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
>> Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
>> <http://kochman.net/N819K>http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: How much oil for first fill? |
Thanks, guys... I didn't even think about filling the cooler. I'm using the
starter with the lower plugs removed to build pressure before starting. I'm
planning on calibrating the dipstick at the 1st or 2nd oil change, though
not sure I'll go above 10, since I won't run with more than that.
-Rob
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> You know, I need to retract what I said below. I just remembered
> that indeed I filled it to 12 on the first run. Only the first
> 10 hours though. I did that because I needed to do it to
> do the dipstick markings anyway. I filled the filter, and
> the hoses as best as I could, then filled the sump and started
> marking off quarts. So my 8qt mark actually includes the
> oil cooler and filter to some extent, I think. But I did
> run it up to 12 quarts so I could mark up to 12 on the stick.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> On 1/20/2011 12:35 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
>> I too filled mine (oil cooler) and I think did 10 or 11 quarts.
>> I knew 12 would be overkill but wanted to be well above the blow out zone.
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 12:08 PM, "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com
>> <mailto:rene@felker.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I filled my oil cooler when I mounted it (which is recommended) and
>>> put 11 Quarts in for first run.
>>>
>>> Rene' Felker
>>>
>>> N423CF
>>>
>>> 801-721-6080
>>>
>>> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rob Kochman
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:45 AM
>>> *To:* rv10-list
>>> *Subject:* RV10-List: How much oil for first fill?
>>>
>>>
>>> How much oil are you guys putting in your (I)O-540 when filling it for
>>> the first time? Seems like most people run 8-9 quarts, so I'm thinking
>>> 10 would be good (to fill the lines, oil cooler, etc).
>>>
>>> Hoping to do the first engine start this weekend.
>>>
>>> Thanks...
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rob Kochman
>>> RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
>>> Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
>>> <http://kochman.net/N819K>http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | HID Landing Lights |
As I am working on the leading edges of the wings, I can't help but
think this is a good time to install landing lights. I think I want HID
lights. Van's catalog shows 50W HIDs for $250. Duckworks in addition
to their "low cost" 50 W for the same price (and also a "low cost" 35W)
show a Philips 35W D1S for $370. What lights are people putting on
airplanes?
Dave
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40813
Puyallup, WA
Wings
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| Subject: | Re: HID Landing Lights |
I've got the D1S as they're less noisy electrically.
But you really don't have to decide on the bulb type until
later. It would be nice to cut the hole early on, but
you can figure the bulb stuff anytime.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 1/20/2011 3:48 PM, Dave Fritzsche (Building) wrote:
> <fritzsch@eskimo.com>
>
> As I am working on the leading edges of the wings, I can't help but
> think this is a good time to install landing lights. I think I want HID
> lights. Van's catalog shows 50W HIDs for $250. Duckworks in addition to
> their "low cost" 50 W for the same price (and also a "low cost" 35W)
> show a Philips 35W D1S for $370. What lights are people putting on
> airplanes?
>
> Dave
>
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| Subject: | HID Landing Lights |
go with the 50 watt. You can NEVER get too much light.
> Date: Thu=2C 20 Jan 2011 13:48:48 -0800
> From: fritzsch@eskimo.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: HID Landing Lights
>
kimo.com>
>
> As I am working on the leading edges of the wings=2C I can't help but
> think this is a good time to install landing lights. I think I want HID
> lights. Van's catalog shows 50W HIDs for $250. Duckworks in addition
> to their "low cost" 50 W for the same price (and also a "low cost" 35W)
> show a Philips 35W D1S for $370. What lights are people putting on
> airplanes?
>
> Dave
>
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> 40813
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> Wings
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| Subject: | Re: HID Landing Lights |
I installed the Ds1 35W bulbs in each leading edge and the 55w HID's in each wingtip.
I guess the DS1 bulbs have the igniter at the base of the bulb taking
away a lot of interference noise. I believe Duckworks website explains this better.
--------
Cust. #40936
RV-10 SB Fuselage
N801VR reserved
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327729#327729
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulators/alternator |
Not on all of them Jesse. Might be okay on Plane Power, don't know for sure.
The automotive ones are NOT designed to allow field to be turned off while
there is a load on the alternator, and can be substantially damaged by doing
so.
There is no such issue or concern on externally regulated, and gives you
option of which regulator goes with your choice of primer. ;-)
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>wrote:
>
> You can turn off the Alt Field on the internally regulated alternator just
> like you would from an externally regulated one, right? If the alternator
> or regulator fails, you replace it or send it in for repair, or have someone
> locally repair it if there are still people around that do that. Oh, btw, I
> use the Akzo Nobel 2-part epoxy primer on all internal parts.
>
> do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> > Plane power sells both varieties. Opinions vary about the merits of
> built-in regulators in an aircraft setting where it is desirable to be able
> to turn off all alternator output. Depends on your outlook as to who will be
> fixing any electrical problems after a failure, given that most A&Ps are
> only familiar with externally regulated alternators that exist on certified
> planes. The point being internal vs external alternator regulation is to the
> AeroElectric email list what primer debates are to most OBAM lists like this
> one.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulators/alternator |
I wonder if that's why Van's dropped the automotive alternators from the
FWF kit and started using the Plane Power. If you asked them about the
earlier alternator, though, they would likely say that they have not
heard from any customers about problems with them.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> Not on all of them Jesse. Might be okay on Plane Power, don't know for
sure. The automotive ones are NOT designed to allow field to be turned
off while there is a load on the alternator, and can be substantially
damaged by doing so.
> There is no such issue or concern on externally regulated, and gives
you option of which regulator goes with your choice of primer. ;-)
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
wrote:
>
> You can turn off the Alt Field on the internally regulated alternator
just like you would from an externally regulated one, right? If the
alternator or regulator fails, you replace it or send it in for repair,
or have someone locally repair it if there are still people around that
do that. Oh, btw, I use the Akzo Nobel 2-part epoxy primer on all
internal parts.
>
> do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> > Plane power sells both varieties. Opinions vary about the merits of
built-in regulators in an aircraft setting where it is desirable to be
able to turn off all alternator output. Depends on your outlook as to
who will be fixing any electrical problems after a failure, given that
most A&Ps are only familiar with externally regulated alternators that
exist on certified planes. The point being internal vs external
alternator regulation is to the AeroElectric email list what primer
debates are to most OBAM lists like this one.
>
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulators/alternator |
Mine went out at 67 hrs, bought a plane power and have not looked back. Yes
, it did say not to turn the alternator off-on with a load on it. I believe
it was in vans info.
Patrick Thyssen
N15PT
--- On Thu, 1/20/11, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: voltage regulators/alternator
I wonder if that's why Van's dropped the automotive alternators from the FW
F kit and started using the Plane Power. -If you asked them about the ear
lier alternator, though, they would likely say that they have not heard fro
m any customers about problems with them.
=0AJesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694=0A=0A
On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
Not on all of them Jesse. Might be okay on Plane Power, don't know for sure
. The automotive ones are NOT designed to allow field to be turned off whil
e there is a load on the alternator, and can be substantially damaged by do
ing so.
=0AThere is no such issue or concern on externally regulated, and gives you
option of which regulator goes with your choice of primer. ;-)
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrot
e:
=0A=0A
=0AYou can turn off the Alt Field on the internally regulated alternator ju
st like you would from an externally regulated one, right? -If the altern
ator or regulator fails, you replace it or send it in for repair, or have s
omeone locally repair it if there are still people around that do that. -
Oh, btw, I use the Akzo Nobel 2-part epoxy primer on all internal parts.
=0A=0A
=0Ado not archive
=0A
=0AJesse Saint
=0ASaint Aviation, Inc.
=0Ajesse@saintaviation.com
=0AC: 352-427-0285
=0AF: 815-377-3694
=0A
=0AOn Jan 20, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
=0A
=0A> Plane power sells both varieties. Opinions vary about the merits of bu
ilt-in regulators in an aircraft setting where it is desirable to be able t
o turn off all alternator output. Depends on your outlook as to who will be
fixing any electrical problems after a failure, given that most A&Ps are o
nly familiar with externally regulated alternators that exist on certified
planes. The point being internal vs external alternator regulation is to th
e AeroElectric email list what primer debates are to most OBAM lists like t
his one.
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| Subject: | Interior Shop Recommendation |
I=99m looking for recommendations for an aircraft interior
installation shop anywhere in the Midwest. Do you know of one whose
work you have seen and liked?
Tailwinds
Dick Sipp
N110DV 310 hours
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulators/alternator |
Is there any other script in the tech support room?
On 1/20/2011 5:45 PM, Jesse Saint wrote:
> ** If you asked them about the earlier alternator, though, they would
> likely say that they have not heard from any customers about problems
> with them.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulators/alternator |
"Just build the plane!"
:)
Tim
On Jan 20, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
>
> Is there any other script in the tech support room?
>
>
> On 1/20/2011 5:45 PM, Jesse Saint wrote:
>> ** If you asked them about the earlier alternator, though, they would likely
say that they have not heard from any customers about problems with them.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
>> C: 352-427-0285
>> F: 815-377-3694
>
>
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| Subject: | Interior Shop Recommendation |
http://www.flightlineinteriors.com/
Rene'
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick & Vicki
Sipp
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:48 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Interior Shop Recommendation
I=99m looking for recommendations for an aircraft interior
installation shop anywhere in the Midwest. Do you know of one whose
work you have seen and liked?
Tailwinds
Dick Sipp
N110DV 310 hours
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