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Fri 02/04/11


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:46 AM - Re: electronic ignition (Barry Marz)
     2. 06:55 AM - Re: Nose gear slop (Dick & Vicki Sipp)
     3. 08:08 AM - number of seats (Rob Kochman)
     4. 08:51 AM - Re: number of seats (pilotdds)
     5. 08:53 AM - Re: electronic ignition (Kevin Belue)
     6. 09:46 AM - Re: Fuel quantity calibration problem (Eric_Kallio)
     7. 11:51 AM - Crow Harnesses (Rob Kochman)
     8. 02:46 PM - Re: Fuel quantity calibration problem (Eric_Kallio)
     9. 03:17 PM - Re: Crow Harnesses (Linn Walters)
    10. 05:27 PM - Experience with paint - off RV10 topic (rngurley)
    11. 06:03 PM - Re: Experience with paint - off RV10 topic (Linn Walters)
    12. 09:10 PM - Re: Experience with paint - off RV10 topic (Bob Turner)
    13. 09:15 PM - Re: number of seats (AirMike)
    14. 11:30 PM - Potential BIG trouble with GPS...keep those nav radios! (Tim Olson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:46:21 AM PST US
    From: Barry Marz <blalmarz@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: electronic ignition
    I have 1 Electroair and 1 mag and I am very happy with the setup. I can run LOP smoothly and it starts good. The Electroair is the old Jeff Rose setup they compare in the EAA CAFE report. I used the Electroair because Lightspeed did not have a mounting bracket for the crank pickup to fit my engine. The guys at Electroair are good to work with and they are going for a certified model also. Blue Skys Barry


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    Time: 06:55:17 AM PST US
    From: "Dick & Vicki Sipp" <rsipp@EARTHLINK.NET>
    Subject: Re: Nose gear slop
    I had the experience as Jesse, 300 hours added an addition washer to the top of the nose gear. Not a difficult task. Dick Sipp


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    Time: 08:08:34 AM PST US
    Subject: number of seats
    From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com>
    I did a search on the FAA aircraft registry for "model = RV-10" and looked at the number of seats. Most were listed as 4, four were listed as 5 (which I know has been discussed here), but I was surprised to see that there were nine listed with 2 seats. What's the reason for doing this? Lower liability premiums? I suppose it could also just be bad data--I did notice one has 10 seats and three are "light sport". -Rob -- Rob Kochman RV-10 "Finishing" Kit Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) http://kochman.net/N819K


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    Time: 08:51:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: number of seats
    From: pilotdds <pilotdds@aol.com>
    Mine was listed as 2 seats with the faa,but 4 with avemco,just bad data tha t I have not yet corrected-Jim -----Original Message----- From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 4, 2011 8:09 am Subject: RV10-List: number of seats I did a search on the FAA aircraft registry for "model = RV-10" and looke d at the number of seats. Most were listed as 4, four were listed as 5 (wh ich I know has been discussed here), but I was surprised to see that there were nine listed with 2 seats. What's the reason for doing this? Lower li ability premiums? I suppose it could also just be bad data--I did notice o ne has 10 seats and three are "light sport". -Rob -- Rob Kochman RV-10 "Finishing" Kit Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) http://kochman.net/N819K -= - The RV10-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 08:53:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: electronic ignition
    From: Kevin Belue <kdbelue@charter.net>
    E-mag had the 6 cyl version last year and said the same thing. I like the ne w package- it's different from the others. Round, tube-shaped with the wires coming out of the end in a circular fashion. The wires are locked in more s ecurely than in the past. I sent out a picture of it last year. I'll send it again if I can find it. I'd like to install the 6 cyl pmag in my RV-10 also .... Kevin B Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote: > I was on the phone with E-Mag this morning and to their credit each time I have asked them when the 6 cylinder version would be released they never pr omised a date so as to not disappoint. That being said the 6 cylinder versio n at SNF 2011 will be a sample to hold, feel, review but not be available fo r sale. The reason they are taking so long as they are shooting for certific ation on the 6 cylinder version which gives me a much warmer fuzzy feeling. H e did say they would most likely be releasing the experimental version prior to certification but I suspect the differences if any will be minor. > > I have a 4 cylinder version on my 200 Hp IO-360 that had been pickled for 1 0 years before first start. Started on the second blade. > > I have been on the 6 cylinder =9Clist=9D for well over 2 years . > > > > Robin > > > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of carl.froehlich@verizon.net > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:18 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition > > > > I got a note from eMag that they will have the 6 cylinder pMag at Sun&Fun. I put an order in for two. > > As a former dual Lightspeed owner, I'll never again put those on any engin e. I now have 300 trouble free hours on my 8A dual pMag set up. > > Carl > > Sent from my mobile phone. Please read past the typos. > > > > -----Original message----- > > From: Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 20:36:41 GMT+00:00 > Subject: RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition > > > I keep waiting for the 6 cylinder P-Mag. > At this rate I will be able to mount one in my RV-18. > > Robin > Do Not Archive > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of greghale > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:22 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: electronic ignition > > > Can anyone give me some advice on a good electronic ignition system for my > RV10? I will be going to Sun n Fun this year and want to check into > this....Thanks > > -------- > Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH > www.nwacaptain.com > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.co========= > = --> http://forums.matronics.============== === > //www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution= > > > ~, > > g=D3=93 > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 09:46:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel quantity calibration problem
    From: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
    I have tried a couple times. Same numbers and no indications. Can anyone out there smart on this system give me a call. There must be something obvious I have overlooked. 225-802-4827. GRT appears to be snowed in today. Eric Kallio Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329598#329598


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    Time: 11:51:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Crow Harnesses
    From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com>
    Anyone using the Crow seatbelts in their -10? When I ordered mine, I didn't specify and dimensions--I just said I needed a complete set for the RV-10, since I understand they've done a few. Having now installed mine, the shoulder straps seem to be too short between the latch and the "Y". See the attached pictures. The "Y" is right on top of the headrest. I could move that back a few inches, but then the shoulder pads would be in the wrong place. Something doesn't seem right here--any ideas? -Rob -- Rob Kochman RV-10 "Finishing" Kit Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) http://kochman.net/N819K


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    Time: 02:46:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel quantity calibration problem
    From: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
    Finally got in touch with GRT. After a bit with Carlos, it looks like the settings are working now. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329656#329656


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    Time: 03:17:09 PM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Crow Harnesses
    Rob, I agree that the pads could be a little more forward. In the first picture it looks like you're leaning forward a little to put tension on the harness. Either that or you have a serious shoulder/back problem!!! If it was me, I'd move the 'Y' forward a little and then take the slack out by pulling on the adjustment for the shoulder belts. The shoulder harness should be adjusted so that in your 'cruise' seat position with the harness just a little slack from snug (yeah, go ahead and measure that!) you can reach all the stuff on the panel that you need to ..... without having to twist the upper torso very much. The only problem moving the 'Y' forward is that it causes the shoulder belts to rub the side of the neck. This is a problem I have in my Pitts, and the solution was the shoulder pads for car shoulder belts. Nice and soft on the neck now. But you'd hate to just cover up the pads you paid so dearly for. Linn On 2/4/2011 2:25 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: > Anyone using the Crow seatbelts in their -10? When I ordered mine, I > didn't specify and dimensions--I just said I needed a complete set for > the RV-10, since I understand they've done a few. Having now > installed mine, the shoulder straps seem to be too short between the > latch and the "Y". See the attached pictures. The "Y" is right on > top of the headrest. I could move that back a few inches, but then > the shoulder pads would be in the wrong place. Something doesn't seem > right here--any ideas? > -Rob > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 "Finishing" Kit > Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) > http://kochman.net/N819K


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    Time: 05:27:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Experience with paint - off RV10 topic
    From: "rngurley" <rngurley@att.net>
    I am getting ready to paint my current aircraft. Does anyone have experience with PPG or Dupont (Imron) paint? Unfortunately, my RV10 in not ready to paint - and probably will not be for some time. Thank you in advance for any comments. Dick Gurley Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329675#329675


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    Time: 06:03:34 PM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Experience with paint - off RV10 topic
    I know this is far more info than you asked for ...... but hopefully others might benefit. Two things make a great paint job .... preparation and ..... practice. Practice on your current airplane and you'll be way ahead when you get to the -10. The best job would be a strip and paint ..... sand and paint leaves a lot of extra weight on the airframe. Work on filling dings and deep scratches ..... the smallest imperfection shows up in the paint. Choose your base color ..... I like white ..... even if you're going to paint over almost all of it. It'll give even color presentation everywhere. Use 3M Fineline masking tape .... green for straight lines, blue for curves. Use paint masking paper. Newspaper doesn't hack it. The paint job is not the place to save money. Get a good paint gun. Yup, I've used HF paint guns, but you get what you pay for, and a quality tool will not let you down. Mix the paint, reducer and catalyst. I like to reduce the paint a little more than recommended. Not a lot. A little. Use the proper reducer for the temperature you'll spray in. Wait 30 minutes. They call this 'induction time'. I don't know why it matters whether the induction time occurs in the spray gun pot or on the airplane .... but it does. Use a tack cloth everywhere!!!! Change the cloth often. They're cheap and really help a nice paint job. Spray a tack coat .... really, really, light. Wait about 30 minutes. Spray a light cross coat. Wait 30 minutes. Spray a second cross coat. Look carefully at your paint job for Throw away that paint left in the spray gun. Resist the urge to spray it on the plane. All it adds is weight .... and sags. Clean up the equipment and go home. Did you notice the 'Wait 30 minutes'???? I found that if you scrimp on the 30 minutes, the possibility of runs and sags goes way up. A professional painter may not do this, but I'm not a pro painter and don't play one on TV. No matter how many times I stayed at a Holiday Inn ..... I still needed that time. Best of luck .... and post the pictures when you get done. Linn On 2/4/2011 8:24 PM, rngurley wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "rngurley"<rngurley@att.net> > > I am getting ready to paint my current aircraft. Does anyone have experience with PPG or Dupont (Imron) paint? Unfortunately, my RV10 in not ready to paint - and probably will not be for some time. Thank you in advance for any comments. > > Dick Gurley > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329675#329675 > >


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    Time: 09:10:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Experience with paint - off RV10 topic
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    And, don't forget, Imron is pretty toxic. Wear personal protection equipment. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329689#329689


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    Time: 09:15:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: number of seats
    From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
    I got mine certified with four seats (You have to install seat belts and rear seat backs in four position) but installed no rear seat cushions. Reason - to keep my plane light. The rear belts and cushions weigh a lot. I have removed the left (pilot side) rear seat back and belt assembly. I have left installed the back right seat back and belts assembly but still no cushion. I figure that if I need to carry a third person - they can sit on pillows. My current empty weight 1617# with the tow bar which I always carry. I figure it is mandatory equipment - try moving the plane without it..... -------- See you OSH '11 Q/B - flying 1 yr+ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329690#329690


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    Time: 11:30:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Potential BIG trouble with GPS...keep those nav radios!
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Check out this article....especially the effects on certified (i read that as "sensitive" GPS's) http://www.gpsworld.com/gnss-system/news/data-shows-disastrous-gps-jamming-fcc-approved-broadcaster-11029?utm_source=GPS&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Navigate_01_31_2011&utm_content=data-shows-disastrous-gps-jamming-fcc-approved-broadcaster-11029 Tim




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