RV10-List Digest Archive

Tue 02/08/11


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:25 AM - Re: Exhaust (Werner Schneider)
     2. 05:00 AM - Re: MCMASTER DOOR SEAL (Traville Houston)
     3. 05:19 AM - Re: Re: MCMASTER DOOR SEAL (Seano)
     4. 06:04 AM - Door Pin - Bullets (Phillip Perry)
     5. 06:36 AM - Re: Door Pin - Bullets (DLM)
     6. 06:36 AM - Re: No longer a project (Marcus Cooper)
     7. 07:02 AM - Three-peat offender: 7A, 10 and now 12 (Masys, Daniel R)
     8. 07:27 AM - Re: Three-peat offender: 7A, 10 and now 12 (Tim Olson)
     9. 07:43 AM - Re: Door Pin - Bullets (Bob Condrey)
    10. 07:44 AM - Re: Door Pin - Bullets (Bob Condrey)
    11. 07:54 AM - Re: Three-peat offender: 7A, 10 and now 12 (Albert Gardner)
    12. 08:43 AM - Re: Door Pin - Bullets (Rob Kochman)
    13. 09:04 AM - Re: Door Pin - Bullets (Tim Olson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:25:16 AM PST US
    From: Werner Schneider <glastar@gmx.net>
    Subject: Re: : RV10-List:Exhaust
    Exactly, BTW, you have the blow out gaskets from Van's and in the Vettermans box there is another set of these Gaskets, so one set to much (at least in my kit). Werner On 08.02.2011 04:06, Kelly McMullen wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen<apilot2@gmail.com> > > Yeah, I had that in my exhaust kit as well. I think it is Vetterman > putting those in there, not Vans. > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Bob Leffler<rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: >> I received the back order items off my FWF kit order today. I was surprised >> to find in the box with the Vetterman exhaust, an advertisement for G3i >> Ignitions and Flight Data Systems. I just thought it atypical of Vans >> pushing a specific product other than their own. >> >> >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 05:00:29 AM PST US
    From: Traville Houston <travilleh@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: MCMASTER DOOR SEAL
    DOES ANYONE HAVE THE PRODUCT # FOR THE DOOR SEALS USED FROM MCMASTER? THE SEALS FROM VANS ARE MUCH TOO TIGHT ON THE SIDES (VERTICAL SECTION) OF MY DOORS. ________________________________ From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 10:31:17 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Landing gear shake Yup, just chalk that up to a long day. I switched a couple of numbers around in my head. Scott Schmidt ________________________________ From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 3:46:03 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Landing gear shake Not to be anal, but 8 11/32 - 7.5 (7 16/32) is not more than an inch, but it's not important. It could really depend on how the plane is sitting, loaded, fueled, etc. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Feb 7, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Scott Schmidt wrote: Mine measured at 8 11/32". Don't know if there is any slop in the rubber discs yet. >Interesting it is over one 1" taller. > > Scott Schmidt > > ________________________________ From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 10:47:58 AM >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Landing gear shake > >The spacer came from Van's. It's part # U-1002 on page 46-07. I had someone >hold the tail down and then I lifted up on the nose gear to see if it was tight. > It moved, so I knew it needed another spacer. You can also tell if the bolt >holding the cap on can move freely when you loosen the nut. The distance from >the prop to the ground depends on how the engine hangs on the engine mounts and >other things, but I'll measure it...7.5". > > >Jesse Saint >Saint Aviation, Inc. >jesse@saintaviation.com >C: 352-427-0285 >F: 815-377-3694 > >On Feb 7, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Scott Schmidt wrote: > >Jesse, I really like what you tried and have thought about it. I never had a >shake until around 100 - 150 hours. If the front gear settles down slightly it >changes the toe-in. >>If it is still possible can you measure the distance between the prop and the >>ground? >>Where did you purchase the spacer? >> >> Scott Schmidt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> >>To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:59:26 AM >>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Landing gear shake >> >>I just did a condition inspection on N256H. Before the condition it had a fair >>bit of shimmy in the 25-30 mph range after landing. I added another spacer on >>the nose gear shock strut and tightened the nose gear pivot nut one flat. Most >>of the shimmy went away. >> >> >>Jesse Saint >>Saint Aviation, Inc. >>jesse@saintaviation.com >>C: 352-427-0285 >>F: 815-377-3694 >> >>On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:09 AM, Scott Schmidt wrote: >> >>I have posted on this topic before. >>>Mine does the exact same at the same speeds as does many other RV-10's. >>>Sometimes balancing the tire fixes/helps, sometimes different tires, pressures, >>>ect. >>>I have tried most with no success. I have talked with Van about it and he >>>indicated that his personal plane even did it. I have also heard that when >>>people installed the wheel pants it started. It all comes down to a poor gear >>>design. A round gear leg is not the optimal design for a landing gear but is the >>>cheapest shape from a manufacturing point of view. >>>It is not the caliper either. Even if I slow down with no braking it occurs. I >>>can replicate it on the ground with one wheel jacked up and use my buffer to get >>>the wheel up to 50 mph and when it slows to around 25 mph, it shakes. It is the >>>system hitting a natural frequency. >>>Van said people have put a block of wood on the backside of other RV models to >>>stop it. >>> >>> >>>I spent a considerable amount of time re-drilling my gear legs to get the exact >>>toe-in on both sides and it did not change one thing. I have tried two different >>>sets of tires, pressures from 25-60 psi all with no luck. My next plan, when I >>>get to it, is to install the wheel pant spacers from PlaneAround.com and start >>>stiffening the wheel pant to the gear. Then I will start finding a good way >>>change the moment of inertia of the gear leg, stiffening it in the front to back >>>direction. >>>I've been told by Vans not to worry about it. Just think of it as a massage with >>>every landing. >>>I will find a way to eliminate it though. >>> >>> >>>Let me know if you find anything out. >>>Thanks, Scott >>> >>>On Jan 23, 2011, at 6:40 PM, "Roger Standley" <taildragon@msn.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Today I was able to have a guy observe the gear up close as I was landing. >>>>I have been feeling a shake during roll out below 30 mph. Sometimes not too much >>>>but sometimes significant. Applying brakes seems to make it worse but >>>>nothing will make it stop until slowing below 20 mph. Speeds above 30 mph are >>>>smooth. He said that the left main was shaking and it looked to be rapidly >>>>moving forward and back. >>>> >>>>Are others noticing this shaking? Is there a fix or a way to minimize the >>>>shaking that anyone has discovered? >>>> >>>>Thank you, >>>> >>>>Roger Standley >>>>N291RV >>>>165 hours >>>> >>>> ========== >>>>ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List%22%3Ehttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List========= >>>> ums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com/ >>>>========= >>>>http://www.matronics.com/contribution%22%3Ehttp://www.matronics.com/contribution========= >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List%22%3Ehttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhref=%22http://forums.matronics.com/%22%3Ehttp://forums.matronics.com >>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution%22%3Ehttp://www.matronics.com/contribution >>n >> >> >> >>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List%22%3Ehttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhref=%22http://forums.matronics.com/%22%3Ehttp://forums.matronics.com >>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution%22%3Ehttp://www.matronics.com/contribution >>n >> >> > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com >href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >n > >


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    Time: 05:19:19 AM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: MCMASTER DOOR SEAL
    1120A311 or 1120A411 depending on your fiberglass width. One at 3/16 and one at 1/4 ----- Original Message ----- From: Traville Houston To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 5:55 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: MCMASTER DOOR SEAL DOES ANYONE HAVE THE PRODUCT # FOR THE DOOR SEALS USED FROM MCMASTER? THE SEALS FROM VANS ARE MUCH TOO TIGHT ON THE SIDES (VERTICAL SECTION) OF MY DOORS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 10:31:17 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Landing gear shake Yup, just chalk that up to a long day. I switched a couple of numbers around in my head. Scott Schmidt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 3:46:03 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Landing gear shake Not to be anal, but 8 11/32 - 7.5 (7 16/32) is not more than an inch, but it's not important. It could really depend on how the plane is sitting, loaded, fueled, etc. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Feb 7, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Scott Schmidt wrote: Mine measured at 8 11/32". Don't know if there is any slop in the rubber discs yet. Interesting it is over one 1" taller. Scott Schmidt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 10:47:58 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Landing gear shake The spacer came from Van's. It's part # U-1002 on page 46-07. I had someone hold the tail down and then I lifted up on the nose gear to see if it was tight. It moved, so I knew it needed another spacer. You can also tell if the bolt holding the cap on can move freely when you loosen the nut. The distance from the prop to the ground depends on how the engine hangs on the engine mounts and other things, but I'll measure it...7.5". Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Feb 7, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Scott Schmidt wrote: Jesse, I really like what you tried and have thought about it. I never had a shake until around 100 - 150 hours. If the front gear settles down slightly it changes the toe-in. If it is still possible can you measure the distance between the prop and the ground? Where did you purchase the spacer? Scott Schmidt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:59:26 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Landing gear shake I just did a condition inspection on N256H. Before the condition it had a fair bit of shimmy in the 25-30 mph range after landing. I added another spacer on the nose gear shock strut and tightened the nose gear pivot nut one flat. Most of the shimmy went away. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:09 AM, Scott Schmidt wrote: I have posted on this topic before. Mine does the exact same at the same speeds as does many other RV-10's. Sometimes balancing the tire fixes/helps, sometimes different tires, pressures, ect. I have tried most with no success. I have talked with Van about it and he indicated that his personal plane even did it. I have also heard that when people installed the wheel pants it started. It all comes down to a poor gear design. A round gear leg is not the optimal design for a landing gear but is the cheapest shape from a manufacturing point of view. It is not the caliper either. Even if I slow down with no braking it occurs. I can replicate it on the ground with one wheel jacked up and use my buffer to get the wheel up to 50 mph and when it slows to around 25 mph, it shakes. It is the system hitting a natural frequency. Van said people have put a block of wood on the backside of other RV models to stop it. I spent a considerable amount of time re-drilling my gear legs to get the exact toe-in on both sides and it did not change one thing. I have tried two different sets of tires, pressures from 25-60 psi all with no luck. My next plan, when I get to it, is to install the wheel pant spacers from PlaneAround.com and start stiffening the wheel pant to the gear. Then I will start finding a good way change the moment of inertia of the gear leg, stiffening it in the front to back direction. I've been told by Vans not to worry about it. Just think of it as a massage with every landing. I will find a way to eliminate it though. Let me know if you find anything out. Thanks, Scott On Jan 23, 2011, at 6:40 PM, "Roger Standley" <taildragon@msn.com> wrote: Today I was able to have a guy observe the gear up close as I was landing. I have been feeling a shake during roll out below 30 mph. Sometimes not too much but sometimes significant. Applying brakes seems to make it worse but nothing will make it stop until slowing below 20 mph. Speeds above 30 mph are smooth. He said that the left main was shaking and it looked to be rapidly moving forward and back. Are others noticing this shaking? Is there a fix or a way to minimize the shaking that anyone has discovered? Thank you, Roger Standley N291RV 165 hours ========= ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List%22%3Ehttp://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?RV10-List========= ums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com/========= =http://www.matronics.com/contribution%22%3Ehttp://www.matronics.com/co ntribution========= href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List%22%3Ehttp://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhref=%22http://forums.matronics.com/%22%3E http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution%22%3Ehttp://www.matronics.c om/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List%22%3Ehttp://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhref=%22http://forums.matronics.com/%22%3E http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution%22%3Ehttp://www.matronics.c om/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://for ums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution


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    Time: 06:04:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Door Pin - Bullets
    From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
    Does anyone know of a site that shows the installation and proper adjustment procedures for the folks who install the aluminum blocks and bullet shaped pins? I'm guessing you simply cut the taper off the pins, then tap, then put the bullet on (with lok-tite). But am I missing anything else? Is it really that simple? Thanks, Phil


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    Time: 06:36:26 AM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com>
    Subject: Re: Door Pin - Bullets
    Has anyone examined the pin system for longevity. It seems that its two pieces of aluminum threaded together that if they loosen and separate, one has no door. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillip Perry To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:00 AM Subject: RV10-List: Door Pin - Bullets Does anyone know of a site that shows the installation and proper adjustment procedures for the folks who install the aluminum blocks and bullet shaped pins? I'm guessing you simply cut the taper off the pins, then tap, then put the bullet on (with lok-tite). But am I missing anything else? Is it really that simple? Thanks, Phil


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    Time: 06:36:40 AM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@verizon.net>
    Subject: No longer a project
    Congratulations Eric! Have fun with the flying that you've been working so hard toward. Marcus 40286 ~500 hrs Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric_Kallio Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 4:46 PM Subject: RV10-List: No longer a project DAR stopped by yesterday afternoon. He had already inspected it apart and wanted it all together. He took a look at it, watched me run it and taxi it around the airfield. Satisfied, and after 45 minutes of paperwork he handed me the airworthiness certificate. I guess it is no longer a project. Now it is an airplane. It was too late in the day to fly, sun was going down. Weather today was absolute garbage. Maybe first flight next Saturday, just waiting on weather. Already starting to get the grin and haven't even flown it yet. Eric N518RV Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330043#330043


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    Time: 07:02:16 AM PST US
    From: "Masys, Daniel R" <dan.masys@vanderbilt.edu>
    Subject: Three-peat offender: 7A, 10 and now 12
    Since building RV's is like eating potato chips (you can't stop at one), I am pleased to confirm that once you have a fine high performance RV-10 you can still have fun building an RV-12 Light Sport. We had a little RV family reunion in Nashville of all 3 planes my wife and I built. She made an online photo show at: http://www.photoshow.com/watch/rn2dF6mM?language=enu<http://www.photoshow .com/watch/rn2dF6mM?language=enu?source=em_ps_show_recipient> And the first flight of the RV-12 is at: http://www.photoshow.com/watch/yF2vr9Cn?language=enu<http://www.photoshow .com/watch/yF2vr9Cn?language=enu?source=em_ps_show_recipient> -Dan Masys RV-10 455 hrs RV-12 4 hrs ;-)


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    Time: 07:27:18 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Three-peat offender: 7A, 10 and now 12
    Well that didn't take long! :) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 2/8/2011 8:58 AM, Masys, Daniel R wrote: > Since building RVs is like eating potato chips (you cant stop at one), > I am pleased to confirm that once you have a fine high performance RV-10 > you can still have fun building an RV-12 Light Sport. > > We had a little RV family reunion in Nashville of all 3 planes my wife > and I built. She made an online photo show at: > > http://www.photoshow.com/watch/rn2dF6mM?language=enu > <http://www.photoshow.com/watch/rn2dF6mM?language=enu?source=em_ps_show_recipient> > > And the first flight of the RV-12 is at: > > http://www.photoshow.com/watch/yF2vr9Cn?language=enu > <http://www.photoshow.com/watch/yF2vr9Cn?language=enu?source=em_ps_show_recipient> > > -Dan Masys > > RV-10 455 hrs > > RV-12 4 hrs ;-) > > *


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    Time: 07:43:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Door Pin - Bullets
    From: Bob Condrey <condreyb@gmail.com>
    Pretty much that simple. You thread the inside of the rods as part of the standard Van's install (page 45, step 1) for marking the hole location in the door jamb. After the hole marking step you simply cut off the taper and install the threaded tips. The aluminum blocks simply replace the stock Delrin pieces. Unlike the Delrin pieces you can match drill from the aluminum blocks for the mount holes. Alignment for the door latch sensors is identical to stock except that the magnets are integral to the tips (I think all of the sources now do this). Just adjust the reed switches so that they only trigger when the latch is completely shut. Bob On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote: > Does anyone know of a site that shows the installation and proper > adjustment procedures for the folks who install the aluminum blocks and > bullet shaped pins? > > I'm guessing you simply cut the taper off the pins, then tap, then put the > bullet on (with lok-tite). > > But am I missing anything else? Is it really that simple? > > Thanks, > Phil > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 07:44:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Door Pin - Bullets
    From: Bob Condrey <condreyb@gmail.com>
    The aftermarket pins from IFLYRV10.com are stainless with steel threaded rods and installed with locktite. Bob On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:28 AM, DLM <dlm34077@q.com> wrote: > Has anyone examined the pin system for longevity. It seems that its two > pieces of aluminum threaded together that if they loosen and separate, one > has no door. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:00 AM > *Subject:* RV10-List: Door Pin - Bullets > > Does anyone know of a site that shows the installation and proper > adjustment procedures for the folks who install the aluminum blocks and > bullet shaped pins? > > I'm guessing you simply cut the taper off the pins, then tap, then put the > bullet on (with lok-tite). > > But am I missing anything else? Is it really that simple? > > Thanks, > Phil > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 07:54:03 AM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Three-peat offender: 7A, 10 and now 12
    I can confirm that. My first kit was a 9A, now flying a '10 (512 hrs) and helped a friend build a '12 in my garage. Started the RV-12 in mid-July and finished up at Christmas. It's quick to build and cost ME nothing for all the fun. Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ N991RV Subject: RV10-List: Three-peat offender: 7A, 10 and now 12 Since building RV's is like eating potato chips (you can't stop at one), I am pleased to confirm that once you have a fine high performance RV-10 you can still have fun building an RV-12 Light Sport. -Dan Masys RV-10 455 hrs RV-12 4 hrs ;-)


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    Time: 08:43:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Door Pin - Bullets
    From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com>
    > It seems that its two pieces of aluminum threaded together that if they loosen and separate, one has no door. I think it'd be difficult for a pin to thread all the way out without noticing. That said, it's not too difficult to build it such that even without the pins, the rod engages with the aluminum block. -Rob On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:28 AM, DLM <dlm34077@q.com> wrote: > Has anyone examined the pin system for longevity. It seems that its two > pieces of aluminum threaded together that if they loosen and separate, one > has no door. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:00 AM > *Subject:* RV10-List: Door Pin - Bullets > > Does anyone know of a site that shows the installation and proper > adjustment procedures for the folks who install the aluminum blocks and > bullet shaped pins? > > I'm guessing you simply cut the taper off the pins, then tap, then put the > bullet on (with lok-tite). > > But am I missing anything else? Is it really that simple? > > Thanks, > Phil > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * > > * > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 "Finishing" Kit Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) http://kochman.net/N819K


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    Time: 09:04:49 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Door Pin - Bullets
    Although I think it's a good idea and all, my worry has always been that some flexing on the shaft will split the tubing at the point where you cut the threads in. So the tips then crack the tubing and it separates. If that happened, it wouldn't be good. I was thinking that if you could build it so a sleeve got glued over top of the joint, but didn't interfere with the action of it all by going through the nylon, it would make it more comforting. But at this point there are enough people flying them that we should see a good initial service history pretty soon. I'm just not a fan of the aluminum tubing part of the system. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 2/8/2011 10:40 AM, Rob Kochman wrote: > > It seems that its two pieces of aluminum threaded together that if > they loosen and separate, one has no door. > I think it'd be difficult for a pin to thread all the way out without > noticing. That said, it's not too difficult to build it such that even > without the pins, the rod engages with the aluminum block. > -Rob > > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:28 AM, DLM <dlm34077@q.com > <mailto:dlm34077@q.com>> wrote: > > Has anyone examined the pin system for longevity. It seems that its > two pieces of aluminum threaded together that if they loosen and > separate, one has no door. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Phillip Perry <mailto:philperry9@gmail.com> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:00 AM > *Subject:* RV10-List: Door Pin - Bullets > > Does anyone know of a site that shows the installation and > proper adjustment procedures for the folks who install the > aluminum blocks and bullet shaped pins? > > I'm guessing you simply cut the taper off the pins, then tap, > then put the bullet on (with lok-tite). > > But am I missing anything else? Is it really that simple? > > Thanks, > Phil > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/>">http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > > * > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ttp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 "Finishing" Kit > Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) > http://kochman.net/N819K > > * > > > *




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