---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/05/11: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:09 PM - seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws (John Gonzalez) 2. 04:14 PM - Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws (Don McDonald) 3. 04:40 PM - Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws (davidsoutpost@comcast.net) 4. 04:45 PM - Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws (Lew Gallagher) 5. 05:52 PM - Re: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws (Pascal) 6. 06:10 PM - Re: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws (Tim Olson) 7. 10:12 PM - Another first flight (Rob Kochman) 8. 10:30 PM - Re: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws (John Gonzalez) 9. 11:10 PM - Re: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws (David) 10. 11:10 PM - Re: Another first flight (David) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:58 PM PST US From: John Gonzalez Subject: RV10-List: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws I can't find any place in the parts where they sent me enough of these scre ws to attach the seat rails. Did anyone else have this shortage or am I mis sing something? And I thought that as the part count went down it would get easier to find needed items. John ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:06 PM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws You probably just need to do what we've all done.... put an order together with =0ASpruce, or another hardware supplier, of practically every nut, bol t, screw. nut =0Aplate, washer, cotter pin, tubing, etc, so that you just M IGHT have what you =0Aneed, when you need it.- Obviously it'll take a lit tle time to iron out the =0Aquantities, but it's worth it.=0ACouple of hund red bucks ought to do it.=0ADon McDonald=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________________ _________=0AFrom: John Gonzalez =0ATo: RV 10 group =0ASent: Sat, March 5, 2011 5:06:30 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws=0A=0AI can't find any place in the parts where they sent me enough of these screws to =0Aattach the seat r ails. Did anyone else have this shortage or am I missing =0Asomething?=0A -=0AAnd I thought that as the part count went down it would get easier to =0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:55 PM PST US From: davidsoutpost@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV10-List: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws David Clifford RV-10 Builder Howell, MI I just dug mine out last week. They were in a brown paper bag with all the other bags of hardware that came in the finish kit. There were over 100 of them IIRC. I temporarily installed my seat rails and stripped two of the Phillips heads when I removed them. Had to drill them out of the nutplates. I will use Torx drive screws next time they get installed. From: John Gonzalez Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 5:06:30 PM Subject: RV10-List: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws I can't find any place in the parts where they sent me enough of these screws to attach the seat rails. Did anyone else have this shortage or am I missing something? And I thought that as the part count went down it would get easier to find needed items. John or?RV10-List" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigtronics.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:45:12 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws From: "Lew Gallagher" Hey John, It's been too long for me to remember exactly, but it seems there IS something about the seat rail screws -- some countersunk, some not? not all the holes in the rails are used? Others that are at that stage or have the plans handy, chime in here. Or lay the seat rails out where they fit and check it out. Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Fly off completed ! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332862#332862 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:08 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws For what it's worth, I have no idea what I got and what Vans gave me, but I am one of those that ordered all sorts of items from Spruce so I always have extra's on hand for those times I need a hot swap for a stripped hardware item or more commonly, misplaced items. Pascal -----Original Message----- From: Lew Gallagher Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:42 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws Hey John, It's been too long for me to remember exactly, but it seems there IS something about the seat rail screws -- some countersunk, some not? not all the holes in the rails are used? Others that are at that stage or have the plans handy, chime in here. Or lay the seat rails out where they fit and check it out. Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Fly off completed ! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332862#332862 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:30 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws Yes, you should just order 100 packs of many standard size screws, all the common ones, and all of the ones you need for commonly removed items. I ordered maybe 10 lengths of each size screw, 4-40, 6's, 8's, 10's....so that's a lot of screws but in 100 packs its not a big deal. You'll want them long term for maintenance anyway. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 3/5/2011 7:48 PM, Pascal wrote: > > For what it's worth, I have no idea what I got and what Vans gave me, > but I am one of those that ordered all sorts of items from Spruce so I > always have extra's on hand for those times I need a hot swap for a > stripped hardware item or more commonly, misplaced items. > Pascal > > > -----Original Message----- From: Lew Gallagher > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:42 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws > > > Hey John, > > It's been too long for me to remember exactly, but it seems there IS > something about the seat rail screws -- some countersunk, some not? not > all the holes in the rails are used? Others that are at that stage or > have the plans handy, chime in here. Or lay the seat rails out where > they fit and check it out. > > Later, - Lew > > -------- > non-pilot > crazy about building > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Fly off completed ! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332862#332862 > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:23 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Another first flight From: Rob Kochman Hi, all... after three years, six months, and one week, our RV-10 finally had its first flight on Saturday! Rob took off from runway 34L at Paine Field, climbed to 3000 feet, circled the airport for 15 minutes, then landed uneventfully. Despite some nerves, the flight was a success. Only 39.75 more hours to go until the test period is complete and Kelly can ride, too! Our RV-10 is powered by an Aero Sport Power IO-540-D4A5 (260 hp), Silver Hawk EX FI system, with a slick mag on bottom and Light Speed Plasma III on top. The instrument panel has a Dynon D100 EFIS, Dynon D120 EMS, Garmin GNS 430 GPS, and panel-mounted Garmin GPSMAP 696. Interior by Flightline Interiors. Our tail number is 819K: 8/19 is our wedding anniversary, and K is for "Kelly" (according to her). Short video of today's flight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60XPTEVzhYs -Rob and Kelly http://kochman.net/N819K/ P.S. (from Rob) The airplane was definitely my passion, but there's no way I could have done it without Kelly. She put up with more than I could ever ask for and kept me sane during the low points of the building, but she also took it a step further. These pictures really show it was a team effort. http://kochman.net/KellyAirplane/ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:03 PM PST US From: John Gonzalez Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws Yes guys I have been doing this orderring of all different bolts and screw. ...but=2C and as is the case these are 8R10s=2C I have 8R7s. My finishing kit did not contain these screws. I'll place another order and wait a few days. It not like I am doing anythi ng you all haven't already done. What I find difficult to do it order through Spruce because they use a diff erent system of numbering. Anyone have a conversion chart? Thanks JOhn > Date: Sat=2C 5 Mar 2011 20:07:34 -0600 > From: Tim@myrv10.com > To: RV10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws > > > Yes=2C you should just order 100 packs of many standard size screws=2C > all the common ones=2C and all of the ones you need for > commonly removed items. I ordered maybe 10 lengths of > each size screw=2C 4-40=2C 6's=2C 8's=2C 10's....so that's a lot > of screws but in 100 packs its not a big deal. You'll want > them long term for maintenance anyway. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > On 3/5/2011 7:48 PM=2C Pascal wrote: > > > > For what it's worth=2C I have no idea what I got and what Vans gave me =2C > > but I am one of those that ordered all sorts of items from Spruce so I > > always have extra's on hand for those times I need a hot swap for a > > stripped hardware item or more commonly=2C misplaced items. > > Pascal > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Lew Gallagher > > Sent: Saturday=2C March 05=2C 2011 4:42 PM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws > > > > > > Hey John=2C > > > > It's been too long for me to remember exactly=2C but it seems there IS > > something about the seat rail screws -- some countersunk=2C some not? n ot > > all the holes in the rails are used? Others that are at that stage or > > have the plans handy=2C chime in here. Or lay the seat rails out where > > they fit and check it out. > > > > Later=2C - Lew > > > > -------- > > non-pilot > > crazy about building > > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > > Fly off completed ! > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332862#332862 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:10:44 PM PST US From: David Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws You can order them from Van's, as well. I don't know if Spruce is cheaper, but you can order any quantity from 1 on up from Van's. David Maib 40559 Flying On Mar 6, 2011, at 1:16 AM, John Gonzalez wrote: > Yes guys I have been doing this orderring of all different bolts > and screw....but, and as is the case these are 8R10s, I have 8R7s. > > My finishing kit did not contain these screws. > > I'll place another order and wait a few days. It not like I am > doing anything you all haven't already done. > > What I find difficult to do it order through Spruce because they > use a different system of numbering. Anyone have a conversion chart? > > Thanks > > JOhn > > > Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:07:34 -0600 > > From: Tim@myrv10.com > > To: RV10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws > > > > > > Yes, you should just order 100 packs of many standard size screws, > > all the common ones, and all of the ones you need for > > commonly removed items. I ordered maybe 10 lengths of > > each size screw, 4-40, 6's, 8's, 10's....so that's a lot > > of screws but in 100 packs its not a big deal. You'll want > > them long term for maintenance anyway. > > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > > do not archive > > > > > > On 3/5/2011 7:48 PM, Pascal wrote: > > > > > > For what it's worth, I have no idea what I got and what Vans > gave me, > > > but I am one of those that ordered all sorts of items from > Spruce so I > > > always have extra's on hand for those times I need a hot swap > for a > > > stripped hardware item or more commonly, misplaced items. > > > Pascal > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Lew Gallagher > > > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:42 PM > > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > > Subject: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws > > > > > > > > > > Hey John, > > > > > > It's been too long for me to remember exactly, but it seems > there IS > > > something about the seat rail screws -- some countersunk, some > not? not > > > all the holes in the rails are used? Others that are at that > stage or > > > have the plans handy, chime in here. Or lay the seat rails out > where > > > they fit and check it out. > > > > > > Later, - Lew > > > > > > -------- > > > non-pilot > > > crazy about building > > > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > > > Fly off completed ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332862#332862 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > &g=========== > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:10:54 PM PST US From: David Subject: Re: RV10-List: Another first flight Way to go Rob and Kelly! My wife Mary, and I, made ours a team effort as well. It makes it all the sweeter! David Maib 40559 Flying On Mar 6, 2011, at 12:58 AM, Rob Kochman wrote: > Hi, all... after three years, six months, and one week, our RV-10 > finally had its first flight on Saturday! Rob took off from runway > 34L at Paine Field, climbed to 3000 feet, circled the airport for > 15 minutes, then landed uneventfully. Despite some nerves, the > flight was a success. Only 39.75 more hours to go until the test > period is complete and Kelly can ride, too! > > Our RV-10 is powered by an Aero Sport Power IO-540-D4A5 (260 hp), > Silver Hawk EX FI system, with a slick mag on bottom and Light > Speed Plasma III on top. The instrument panel has a Dynon D100 > EFIS, Dynon D120 EMS, Garmin GNS 430 GPS, and panel-mounted Garmin > GPSMAP 696. Interior by Flightline Interiors. Our tail number is > 819K: 8/19 is our wedding anniversary, and K is for > "Kelly" (according to her). > > Short video of today's flight: http://www.youtube.com/watch? > v=60XPTEVzhYs > > -Rob and Kelly > http://kochman.net/N819K/ > > P.S. (from Rob) The airplane was definitely my passion, but there's > no way I could have done it without Kelly. She put up with more > than I could ever ask for and kept me sane during the low points of > the building, but she also took it a step further. These pictures > really show it was a team effort. http://kochman.net/KellyAirplane/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.