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1. 09:03 AM - Re: Another first flight (Bruce Johnson)
2. 10:49 AM - Re: Another first flight (Dave Fritzsche (Building))
3. 11:26 AM - Re: rudder pedal extensions (Tim Olson)
4. 11:50 AM - Re: rudder pedal extensions (amekler@metrocast.net)
5. 12:18 PM - Re: rudder pedal extensions (Tim Olson)
6. 06:37 PM - Re: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws (Don McDonald)
7. 07:48 PM - Extra Hangar (Robin Marks)
8. 08:47 PM - Re: rudder pedal extensions (Paul Grimstad)
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| Subject: | Re: Another first flight |
Congadulations, Glad to see I wasnt the only one to head up un-painted and
no =0Awheel pants. Nice Job=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________
=0AFrom: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com>=0ATo: rv10-list <rv10-list@matroni
cs.com>=0ASent: Sat, March 5, 2011 10:58:55 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Anothe
r first flight=0A=0A=0AHi, all... after three years, six months, and one we
ek, our RV-10 finally had =0Aits first flight on Saturday!- Rob took off
from runway 34L at Paine Field, =0Aclimbed to 3000 feet, circled the airpor
t for 15 minutes, then landed =0Auneventfully.- Despite some nerves, the
flight was a success.- Only 39.75 more =0Ahours to go until the test peri
od is complete and Kelly can ride, too!- =0A=0A=0AOur RV-10 is powered by
an Aero Sport Power IO-540-D4A5 (260 hp), Silver Hawk EX =0AFI system, wit
h a slick mag on bottom and Light Speed Plasma III on top.- The =0Ainstru
ment panel has a Dynon D100 EFIS, Dynon D120 EMS, Garmin GNS 430 GPS, and
=0Apanel-mounted Garmin GPSMAP 696.- Interior by Flightline Interiors.-
Our tail =0Anumber is 819K: 8/19 is our wedding anniversary, and K is for
"Kelly" (according =0Ato her).=0A=0AShort video of today's flight: http://w
ww.youtube.com/watch?v=60XPTEVzhYs=0A=0A-Rob and Kelly=0Ahttp://kochman.n
et/N819K/=0A=0AP.S. (from Rob) The airplane was definitely my passion, but
there's no way I =0Acould have done it without Kelly.- She put up with mo
re than I could ever ask =0Afor and kept me sane during the low points of t
he building, but she also took it =0Aa step further.- These pictures real
ly show it was a team effort. =0Ahttp://kochman.net/KellyAirplane/=0A=0A _
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| Subject: | Re: Another first flight |
Congratulations to a local guy. We have never met but I hope to remedy
that some time. I am just down the road in Puyallup and a couple of
years behind you. We have two RV-10s in process here. I am the slow
one. One of our chapter members, Charlie, was your DAR according to
your pictures. Hopefully our weather will cooperate with your fly-off
plans, but this time of year it is not too promising.
Hoping for smooth air and blue skies. :-)
Dave Fritzsche
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dave Fritzsche
40813
Puyallup, WA
Wings
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 3/5/2011 9:58 PM, Rob Kochman wrote:
>
> Hi, all... after three years, six months, and one week, our RV-10
> finally had its first flight on Saturday! Rob took off from runway
> 34L at Paine Field, climbed to 3000 feet, circled the airport for 15
> minutes, then landed uneventfully. Despite some nerves, the flight
> was a success. Only 39.75 more hours to go until the test period is
> complete and Kelly can ride, too!
>
> Our RV-10 is powered by an Aero Sport Power IO-540-D4A5 (260 hp),
> Silver Hawk EX FI system, with a slick mag on bottom and Light Speed
> Plasma III on top. The instrument panel has a Dynon D100 EFIS, Dynon
> D120 EMS, Garmin GNS 430 GPS, and panel-mounted Garmin GPSMAP 696.
> Interior by Flightline Interiors. Our tail number is 819K: 8/19 is
> our wedding anniversary, and K is for "Kelly" (according to her).
>
> Short video of today's flight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60XPTEVzhYs
>
> -Rob and Kelly
> http://kochman.net/N819K/
>
> P.S. (from Rob) The airplane was definitely my passion, but there's no
> way I could have done it without Kelly. She put up with more than I
> could ever ask for and kept me sane during the low points of the
> building, but she also took it a step further. These pictures really
> show it was a team effort. http://kochman.net/KellyAirplane/
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: rudder pedal extensions |
I just did a little work on my pedal blocks this weekend:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090503/index.html
I decided since I had nothing better to do, I'd pull them and drill
some holes in them, repaint them, put anti-skid on them, and
just in general freshen them up. I took some photos while
they are out, so you can better see how they were made. I
tweaked the write-up a little too. These were meant to be
a temporary, proof-of-concept thing, but they're working out
so good I decided to just leave them, even if they aren't
cosmetically perfect.
The total weight is something around 2.5lbs for the pair.
I could lighten them quite a bit more I'm sure, but I don't
think I'll even try. Mounting is a breeze, with the dowels
and big washers.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
On 2/21/2011 9:08 AM, Alan Mekler wrote:
> Tim,
>
> We made these out of inch Aluminum. They are pretty heavy. Lightened
> them up with holes. They extend about 4 inches. My wife couldnt keep
> het feet on the floor and move the pedals so we welded an extension on.
> No interference with the brakes. Working on a few modifications to allow
> easier mounting and better cosmetics but they work.
>
> Alan
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Olson
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 02, 2011 9:13 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: rudder pedal extensions
>
>
> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090503/index.html
>
> These are really crude and could be refined well with some effort. I
> painted them and have left them in almost all the time for I guess 1.5
> years now. They don't interfere with the brakes but that's because I
> built them in such a way that they wouldn't. They basically only touch
> the pedal surface...not anything else.
>
> I still have to pull them and drill some lightening holes some day, and
> maybe fill some gaps with wood putty for cosmetics.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2011, at 7:41 AM, "Alan Mekler" <amekler@metrocast.net
> <mailto:amekler@metrocast.net>> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone make a rudder pedal extension? My wife is only 5 feet tall
>> and cant reach the pedals. I tried making a 4inch extension but it
>> interfered with the brakes.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> N668G
>>
>> * *
>> * *
>> * *
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| Subject: | Re: rudder pedal extensions |
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Tim,
Thanks for the update. Mine work fine but aren't that easy to mount.
My next set will be lighter and have an easier mount.
Regards,
Alan
On Mon 03/07/11 2:23 PM , Tim Olson Tim@MyRV10.com sent:
I just did a little work on my pedal blocks this weekend:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090503/index.html [2]
I decided since I had nothing better to do, I'd pull them and drill
some holes in them, repaint them, put anti-skid on them, and
just in general freshen them up. I took some photos while
they are out, so you can better see how they were made. I
tweaked the write-up a little too. These were meant to be
a temporary, proof-of-concept thing, but they're working out
so good I decided to just leave them, even if they aren't
cosmetically perfect.
The total weight is something around 2.5lbs for the pair.
I could lighten them quite a bit more I'm sure, but I don't
think I'll even try. Mounting is a breeze, with the dowels
and big washers.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
On 2/21/2011 9:08 AM, Alan Mekler wrote:
> Tim,
>
> We made these out of =C2=BC inch Aluminum. They are pretty heavy.
Lightened
> them up with holes. They extend about 4 inches. My wife couldn=99t
keep
> het feet on the floor and move the pedals so we welded an
extension on.
> No interference with the brakes. Working on a few modifications to
allow
> easier mounting and better cosmetics but they work.
>
> Alan
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [3]
> [owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [4]] *On Behalf Of *Tim
Olson
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 02, 2011 9:13 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com [5]
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: rudder pedal extensions
>
>
> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090503/index.html [6]
>
> These are really crude and could be refined well with some effort.
I
> painted them and have left them in almost all the time for I guess
1.5
> years now. They don't interfere with the brakes but that's because
I
> built them in such a way that they wouldn't. They basically only
touch
> the pedal surface...not anything else.
>
> I still have to pull them and drill some lightening holes some
day, and
> maybe fill some gaps with wood putty for cosmetics.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2011, at 7:41 AM, "Alan Mekler" > wrote:
>
>> Does anyone make a rudder pedal extension? My wife is only 5 feet
tall
>> and can=99t reach the pedals. I tried making a 4inch extension
but it
>> interfered with the brakes.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> N668G
>>
>> * *
>> * *
>> * *
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| Subject: | Re: rudder pedal extensions |
Yeah, I would think that 1/8" aluminum could be fine, if it had
some good cross bracing internally. I don't see why it
wouldn't work.
I wasn't too worried about going with wood though...wood was
often touted as being an "ideal material" for airplanes because
it's light and strong...and in the case of these blocks, it
was just simple to work with. I would think that someone could
use balsa blocks and just coat them with glass, too, as
another option. The ability to drill dowels into it was
really the thing I liked the best.
For aluminum blocks, I'd think you could put some aluminum
cylinders that bolt on in place of where the dowels go, too.
I'm not sure how weight would compare, if made in a
more ideal way. I'm guessing I could probably cut the
weight of the wood ones down to 1.5lbs per pair if I tried,
but I'd need to start by using better wood, glued nice,
cut nice, and then route out the guts in a manner that
took out more material but kept some good structure. It
would turn it into a 8 hour project, whereas I did these
in maybe an hour. Still, it would be fun to play
with some day if I didn't have other things I
want to do first.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 3/7/2011 1:44 PM, amekler@metrocast.net wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> Thanks for the update. Mine work fine but aren't that easy to mount. My
> next set will be lighter and have an easier mount.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
>
> *On Mon 03/07/11 2:23 PM , Tim Olson Tim@MyRV10.com sent:
> *
>
> **
>
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
>
> I just did a little work on my pedal blocks this weekend:
> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090503/index.html
>
> I decided since I had nothing better to do, I'd pull them and drill
> some holes in them, repaint them, put anti-skid on them, and
> just in general freshen them up. I took some photos while
> they are out, so you can better see how they were made. I
> tweaked the write-up a little too. These were meant to be
> a temporary, proof-of-concept thing, but they're working out
> so good I decided to just leave them, even if they aren't
> cosmetically perfect.
>
> The total weight is something around 2.5lbs for the pair.
> I could lighten them quite a bit more I'm sure, but I don't
> think I'll even try. Mounting is a breeze, with the dowels
> and big washers.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> On 2/21/2011 9:08 AM, Alan Mekler wrote:
> > Tim,
> >
> > We made these out of inch Aluminum. They are pretty heavy. Lightened
> > them up with holes. They extend about 4 inches. My wife couldnt keep
> > het feet on the floor and move the pedals so we welded an
> extension on.
> > No interference with the brakes. Working on a few modifications to
> allow
> > easier mounting and better cosmetics but they work.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
> > [owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Tim Olson
> > *Sent:* Sunday, January 02, 2011 9:13 AM
> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: rudder pedal extensions
> >
> >
> > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090503/index.html
> <http://metromail.metrocast.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myrv10.com%2FN104CD%2Fupgrades%2F20090503%2Findex.html>
> >
> > These are really crude and could be refined well with some effort. I
> > painted them and have left them in almost all the time for I guess 1.5
> > years now. They don't interfere with the brakes but that's because I
> > built them in such a way that they wouldn't. They basically only touch
> > the pedal surface...not anything else.
> >
> > I still have to pull them and drill some lightening holes some
> day, and
> > maybe fill some gaps with wood putty for cosmetics.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > On Jan 2, 2011, at 7:41 AM, "Alan Mekler" <amekler@metrocast.net
> <mailto:amekler@metrocast.net>
> > <amekler@metrocast.net <mailto:amekler@metrocast.net>>> wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone make a rudder pedal extension? My wife is only 5 feet
> tall
> > > and cant reach the pedals. I tried making a 4inch extension but it
> > > interfered with the brakes.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > > N668G
> > >
> > > * *
> > > * *
> > > * *
>
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| Subject: | Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws |
So Robin, you gonna have time to fly off the hours?- When you flying it t
o =0ACalif?- There's goes the room in your hangar for my next visit!!!!
=0ADon McDonald=0A=0ABTW.... congrats.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________
__________=0AFrom: Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matr
onics.com=0ASent: Sun, March 6, 2011 5:04:46 PM=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: R
e: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws=0A=0A=0ALook what we did with our extra
bolts, washers, screws & nuts.=0A-=0ARobin=0ADo Not archive=0A-=0A-
=0AFrom:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-rv10-list-ser
ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez=0ASent: Sunday, March 06, 201
1 1:15 PM=0ATo: RV 10 group=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN
509 8R10 screws=0A-=0AI been thinking about-Tim's response here and I k
now the truth-regarding what he =0Ais up to.=0A-=0ATim's wife says, "Ho
ney, you have more-extra bolts, washers, nuts and screws =0Athen you coul
d ever use on our plane."=0A-=0AHis reply, "Yah, I was thinking about tha
t and I would hate for them to go to =0Awaste, I think I should start anoth
er project, it will be done once the kids =0Amove out and we only need two
seats."=0A-=0AVery clever fox!!!!=0A-=0A=0A____________________________
____=0A=0AFrom: Tim@MyRV10.com=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and
AN509 8R10 screws=0ADate: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:06:05 -0600=0ATo: rv10-list@m
atronics.com=0ABut that's what I mean....I ordered like 8R7's, 8R8's, 8R9's
, 8R10's, 8R... - If =0Ayou prepare and order some additional sizes above
and below, you'll be ready. -I =0Afound many places where a slightly lon
ger screw was nicer, or where I had some =0Areason to switch. -And for so
me locations I used stainless screws instead of the =0ACad plated, dependin
g on what it was for.=0AYou'll want to probably replace ALL of the wingtip
and fairing screws with =0Astainless, and leave them unpainted if you don't
like chipped paint screws.=0ADo the same with AN bolts, especially 3's and
4's....get some additional sizes. =0A-For general hardware, I found it b
etter to just empty the Vans baggies into =0Aparts bins all sorted out, and
then order a pile of replacement and additional =0Ahardware so I had a mor
e complete assortment of hardware. -At this point I =0Ararely need to ord
er anything. - It promotes good maintenance because you feel =0Ahappy to
replace a screw when it's in worsening condition, rather than reusing =0Ait
because you didn't have one.=0ABuy 100 packs of cotter pins too....especia
lly the ones for the axles.=0AAnd washers, and nuts both nylock and all-met
al. - You'll also find that in =0Adoing the engine you don't always do th
ings 100% identically to other people, so =0Ayou'll want extra Adel clamps,
and non-nylon nuts in the engine compartment. =0A-Washers too of course.
-The list is long but if you're going to be your own =0Amechanic later y
ou may as well spend the $200-300 on extra hardware....even some =0Asizes n
ot in the plans. -If it were a rare size, I ordered 20, but common I just
=0Awent for 100 packs for the discount. -You can usually go up a size if
you need =0Ato, in a pinch.=0ATim=0A-=0A=0AOn Mar 6, 2011, at 12:16 AM,
John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> wrote:=0AYes guys I have been doing
this orderring of all different bolts and =0Ascrew....but, and as is the ca
se these are 8R10s, I-have 8R7s. =0A=0A>-=0A>My finishing kit did not c
ontain these screws. =0A>-=0A>I'll place another order and wait a few day
s. It not like I am doing anything =0A>you all haven't already done.=0A>-
=0A>What I-find difficult to do it order through Spruce because they use
a different =0A>system of numbering. Anyone have a conversion chart?=0A>-
=0A>Thanks=0A>-=0A>JOhn=0A>-=0A>> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:07:34 -0600
=0A>> From: Tim@myrv10.com=0A>> To: RV10-list@matronics.com=0A>> Subject: R
e: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws=0A>> =0A>> --> RV10-List
message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>=0A>> =0A>> Yes, you should j
ust order 100 packs of many standard size screws,=0A>> all the common ones,
and all of the ones you need for=0A>> commonly removed items. I ordered ma
ybe 10 lengths of=0A>> each size screw, 4-40, 6's, 8's, 10's....so that's a
lot=0A>> of screws but in 100 packs its not a big deal. You'll want=0A>> t
hem long term for maintenance anyway.=0A>> =0A>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
=0A>> do not archive=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> On 3/5/2011 7:48 PM, Pascal wrote:=0A
>=0A>> > For what it's worth, I have no idea what I got and what Vans gave
me,=0A>> > but I am one of those that ordered all sorts of items from Spru
ce so I=0A>> > always have extra's on hand for those times I need a hot swa
p for a=0A>> > stripped hardware item or more commonly, misplaced items.=0A
>> > Pascal=0A>> >=0A>> >=0A>> > -----Original Message----- From: Lew Galla
gher=0A>> > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:42 PM=0A>> > To: rv10-list@mat
ronics.com=0A>> > Subject: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws
arter.net>=0A>> >=0A>> > Hey John,=0A>> >=0A>> > It's been too long for me
to remember exactly, but it seems there IS=0A>> > something about the seat
rail screws -- some countersunk, some not? not=0A>> > all the holes in the
rails are used? Others that are at that stage or=0A>> > have the plans hand
y, chime in here. Or lay the seat rails out where=0A>> > they fit and check
it out.=0A>> >=0A>> > Later, - Lew=0A>> >=0A>> > --------=0A>> > non-pilot
=0A>> > crazy about building=0A>> > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549=0A>> > Fly
off completed !=0A>> >=0A>> >=0A>> >=0A>> >=0A>> > Read this topic online
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Oh, I guess I didn=92t show you my =93other=94 hangar=85 It=92s always nice
to have a
back up.
Blue epoxy floor
My first RV=85
Robin
[image: IMG_1787.jpg]
*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Don McDonald
*Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2011 6:27 PM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws
So Robin, you gonna have time to fly off the hours? When you flying it to
Calif? There's goes the room in your hangar for my next visit!!!!
Don McDonald
BTW.... congrats.
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*From:* Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Sent:* Sun, March 6, 2011 5:04:46 PM
*Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws
Look what we did with our extra bolts, washers, screws & nuts.
Robin
Do Not archive
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*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John Gonzalez
*Sent:* Sunday, March 06, 2011 1:15 PM
*To:* RV 10 group
*Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws
I been thinking about Tim's response here and I know the truth regarding
what he is up to.
Tim's wife says, "Honey, you have more extra bolts, washers, nuts and screw
s
then you could ever use on our plane."
His reply, "Yah, I was thinking about that and I would hate for them to go
to waste, I think I should start another project, it will be done once the
kids move out and we only need two seats."
Very clever fox!!!!
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From: Tim@MyRV10.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws
But that's what I mean....I ordered like 8R7's, 8R8's, 8R9's, 8R10's, 8R...
If you prepare and order some additional sizes above and below, you'll be
ready. I found many places where a slightly longer screw was nicer, or
where I had some reason to switch. And for some locations I used stainless
screws instead of the Cad plated, depending on what it was for.
You'll want to probably replace ALL of the wingtip and fairing screws with
stainless, and leave them unpainted if you don't like chipped paint screws.
Do the same with AN bolts, especially 3's and 4's....get some additional
sizes. For general hardware, I found it better to just empty the Vans
baggies into parts bins all sorted out, and then order a pile of replacemen
t
and additional hardware so I had a more complete assortment of hardware. A
t
this point I rarely need to order anything. It promotes good maintenance
because you feel happy to replace a screw when it's in worsening condition,
rather than reusing it because you didn't have one.
Buy 100 packs of cotter pins too....especially the ones for the axles.
And washers, and nuts both nylock and all-metal. You'll also find that in
doing the engine you don't always do things 100% identically to other
people, so you'll want extra Adel clamps, and non-nylon nuts in the engine
compartment. Washers too of course. The list is long but if you're going
to be your own mechanic later you may as well spend the $200-300 on extra
hardware....even some sizes not in the plans. If it were a rare size, I
ordered 20, but common I just went for 100 packs for the discount. You can
usually go up a size if you need to, in a pinch.
Tim
On Mar 6, 2011, at 12:16 AM, John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> wrote:
Yes guys I have been doing this orderring of all different bolts and
screw....but, and as is the case these are 8R10s, I have 8R7s.
My finishing kit did not contain these screws.
I'll place another order and wait a few days. It not like I am doing
anything you all haven't already done.
What I find difficult to do it order through Spruce because they use a
different system of numbering. Anyone have a conversion chart?
Thanks
JOhn
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:07:34 -0600
> From: Tim@myrv10.com
> To: RV10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws
>
>
> Yes, you should just order 100 packs of many standard size screws,
> all the common ones, and all of the ones you need for
> commonly removed items. I ordered maybe 10 lengths of
> each size screw, 4-40, 6's, 8's, 10's....so that's a lot
> of screws but in 100 packs its not a big deal. You'll want
> them long term for maintenance anyway.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 3/5/2011 7:48 PM, Pascal wrote:
> >
> > For what it's worth, I have no idea what I got and what Vans gave me,
> > but I am one of those that ordered all sorts of items from Spruce so I
> > always have extra's on hand for those times I need a hot swap for a
> > stripped hardware item or more commonly, misplaced items.
> > Pascal
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Lew Gallagher
> > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:42 PM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV10-List: Re: seat rails and AN509 8R10 screws
> >
> >
> > Hey John,
> >
> > It's been too long for me to remember exactly, but it seems there IS
> > something about the seat rail screws -- some countersunk, some not? not
> > all the holes in the rails are used? Others that are at that stage or
> > have the plans handy, chime in here. Or lay the seat rails out where
> > they fit and check it out.
> >
> > Later, - Lew
> >
> > --------
> > non-pilot
> > crazy about building
> > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> > Fly off completed !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332862#332862
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | rudder pedal extensions |
Tim,
I am finalizing design and fabrication of pedal systems for RV's. Extensions
look like an option I should consider.
I have a couple other product ideas I be offering soon.
Paul Grimstad, Bend Or.
(RV10 sold at the RV5 stage) RV12 (built in 8 months) painting now
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder pedal extensions
I just did a little work on my pedal blocks this weekend:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090503/index.html
I decided since I had nothing better to do, I'd pull them and drill
some holes in them, repaint them, put anti-skid on them, and
just in general freshen them up. I took some photos while
they are out, so you can better see how they were made. I
tweaked the write-up a little too. These were meant to be
a temporary, proof-of-concept thing, but they're working out
so good I decided to just leave them, even if they aren't
cosmetically perfect.
The total weight is something around 2.5lbs for the pair.
I could lighten them quite a bit more I'm sure, but I don't
think I'll even try. Mounting is a breeze, with the dowels
and big washers.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
On 2/21/2011 9:08 AM, Alan Mekler wrote:
> Tim,
>
> We made these out of inch Aluminum. They are pretty heavy. Lightened
> them up with holes. They extend about 4 inches. My wife couldnt keep
> het feet on the floor and move the pedals so we welded an extension on.
> No interference with the brakes. Working on a few modifications to allow
> easier mounting and better cosmetics but they work.
>
> Alan
>
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>
> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Olson
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 02, 2011 9:13 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: rudder pedal extensions
>
>
> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090503/index.html
>
> These are really crude and could be refined well with some effort. I
> painted them and have left them in almost all the time for I guess 1.5
> years now. They don't interfere with the brakes but that's because I
> built them in such a way that they wouldn't. They basically only touch
> the pedal surface...not anything else.
>
> I still have to pull them and drill some lightening holes some day, and
> maybe fill some gaps with wood putty for cosmetics.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2011, at 7:41 AM, "Alan Mekler" <amekler@metrocast.net
> <mailto:amekler@metrocast.net>> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone make a rudder pedal extension? My wife is only 5 feet tall
>> and cant reach the pedals. I tried making a 4inch extension but it
>> interfered with the brakes.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> N668G
>>
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