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1. 02:29 AM - Re: Carpet Source (AirMike)
2. 05:27 AM - Fw: Re: Carpet Source (DLM)
3. 07:04 AM - engine cables (Chris Hukill)
4. 07:54 AM - Re: engine cables (Sean Stephens)
5. 08:36 AM - Re: G900X (gary)
6. 10:32 AM - Re: G900X (Robin Marks)
7. 11:22 AM - Re: engine cables (rv10flyer)
8. 11:40 AM - Doors and Sean Strasburg's kit (rv10flyer)
9. 03:26 PM - Re: G900X (Robin Marks)
10. 06:47 PM - Re: Doors and Sean Strasburg's kit (Strasnuts)
11. 06:52 PM - ribs/skins (Rick Lark)
12. 10:51 PM - Re: ribs/skins (Billy & Tami Britton)
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| Subject: | Re: Carpet Source |
If you do not want a fancy carpet job and do not feel compelled to spend for Airtex
FAA approved stuff.... I have a solution. Look in the carpet remnant stores
for Jute backed wool carpet. It is a bit hard to find, but I got a nice piece
in San Rafael, CA for $60. I made templates out of kraft paper and cut the
pieces. Then had the edges bound for $1.00/ft - I think that the binding ran about
$100. Viola - carpets for about $165 total cost. The binding lady even put
hot melt glue around the tie down/seatbelt holes in back. This gives you a fairly
fire safe carpet except for the small amount of urethane glue on the jute
backing - this can be treated with a can of spray fireblock if desired.
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See you OSH '11
Q/B - flying 1 yr+
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| Subject: | Re: Carpet Source |
> agreed. I bought my remnant for $175. I then had enough carpet for five
> aircraft. It was 100% wool. I also dyed and bound the pieces.I have
> included
> the measurments.
Carpet dimensions
Baggage
Front 40.25"
Depth 29"
Rear 33.75"
Front seat floors
29.5 by 20.375
Rear seat floors
20.25" by 18.625"
About 3 square yards
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 2:26 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Carpet Source
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>> If you do not want a fancy carpet job and do not feel compelled to spend
>> for Airtex FAA approved stuff.... I have a solution. Look in the carpet
>> remnant stores for Jute backed wool carpet. It is a bit hard to find, but
>> I got a nice piece in San Rafael, CA for $60. I made templates out of
>> kraft paper and cut the pieces. Then had the edges bound for $1.00/ft - I
>> think that the binding ran about $100. Viola - carpets for about $165
>> total cost. The binding lady even put hot melt glue around the tie
>> down/seatbelt holes in back. This gives you a fairly fire safe carpet
>> except for the small amount of urethane glue on the jute backing - this
>> can be treated with a can of spray fireblock if desired.
>>
>> --------
>> See you OSH '11
>> Q/B - flying 1 yr+
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334489#334489
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Does anyone have the part numbers for the proper length cables from
Cablecraft, for knobs, not quadrant. I dont have an engine to measure,
but am installing stuff in the panel, and would like to get them
coming.
Thanks
Chris Hukill
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| Subject: | Re: engine cables |
Check out Ivan's post and the entire thread from the archives. Not
Cablecraft part numbers, but ACS. He also gives lengths.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322015#322015
-Sean #40303
On 3/20/11 8:59 AM, Chris Hukill wrote:
> Does anyone have the part numbers for the proper length cables from
> Cablecraft, for knobs, not quadrant. I dont have an engine to measure,
> but am installing stuff in the panel, and would like to get them coming.
> Thanks
> Chris Hukill
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This is one of the dumb features on an otherwise great system. To get to
time in service, press the red reversion button on the audio panel. Then on
the PFD select the engine soft button and then in the lower left corner is
the time in service. I think it calculates only flying time derived from
ground speed trigger, but am not totally sure about that.
Gary Specketer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Leikam
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 10:39 PM
Subject: RV10-List: G900X
For those who are flying a G900X panel,
How does the system calculate "TTL Time in Service?" I called Garmin and
the guy I spoke with told me he would get and answer and call me back, two
days ago.
It is not from engine start to shut down.
David Leikam
RV10
40496
N89DA
Flying
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Gary & David,
Another way to do that is during shutdown (on my system) the MFD
is turned off but the PFD stays on. At that point it is just like revision
mode. Follow the procedure listed below Engine > System to get your time.
I have two other suggestions.
Some time ago I mentioned to the RV List a free website called
www.CirrusReports.com I record my flight data for every flight on the top
MFD SD Card slot. About once every 4-6 flights I swap out the SD card for
the backup SD card I carry in my flight bag camera case. Take the SD card to
any computer, delete any small files that represent engine starts but not
flights (they are obvious due to file size) and then upload the flight data
to CR.com. The upload process is fast & easy. I uploaded 6 flights yesterday
and it took probably 2 minutes. From there CR.com presents every single
engine & flight parameter you can imagine including Geo-referenced map, and
charts of every engine item with the option to display any 4 individual
items at once so you can see for example Fuel Flow vs. CHT's. Speed vs. RPM.
The combinations are enlightening. It also has a spread sheet function to
give you Departure/Arrival times, Hobbs time, Flight time etc... In many
ways it can substitute for your Log Book as far as accurate flight dates,
hours, notes. You can choose to make your flight data public or keep it
private. I have decided to make mine available to the public.
http://www.cirrusreports.com/flights/N110EE/ Because it has this data it
also has a simple export to Google Earth in both 3D view & Cockpit View.
Here is a screen capture of the 3D view for a local flight I took back in
August. Again this took less than 1 minute to produce:
[image: Flight.JPG]
Here is a close up (from the other side of the airport) of my departure &
arrival on different runways plus the over flight of the airport. It even
shows I taxied back to Self Serve Fuel. Very powerful!
[image: flight2.JPG]
Nice feature!
Moving on I have one more suggestion. If you have not installed the latest
version of the G900X OS. It has many small changes I have noticed. For
example it has Ground Speed now displayed next to True Air Speed so I can
eliminate the GS I normally had as an option on the MFD and can use that
space for some other parameter like ETA. It has an updated Flight Planning
system and displays including different flags that I still have no idea what
they mean. It also has some really cool features like anytime you scroll
over an airport or roll over one in the Flight Planner it gives you instant
weather reporting vs. having to push a couple of additional page buttons and
leave the map display to get updated field WX info. Very tidy info. I bring
this up because I bet there is a better representation of times in the new
OS. I just have not played with it enough to know the differences yet. Also
if you want to make a stink about these times with Garmin one day they may
just place the times in their own section on the appropriate status page
some day as they should have from the start.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 8:31 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: G900X
This is one of the dumb features on an otherwise great system. To get to
time in service, press the red reversion button on the audio panel. Then on
the PFD select the engine soft button and then in the lower left corner is
the time in service. I think it calculates only flying time derived from
ground speed trigger, but am not totally sure about that.
Gary Specketer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Leikam
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 10:39 PM
Subject: RV10-List: G900X
For those who are flying a G900X panel,
How does the system calculate "TTL Time in Service?" I called Garmin and
the guy I spoke with told me he would get and answer and call me back, two
days ago.
It is not from engine start to shut down.
David Leikam
RV10
40496
N89DA
Flying
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| Subject: | Re: engine cables |
I ordered RV-7 throttle cable from Van's. The remaining two from ACS per Ivan's
information. It took 9 weeks to get them, so order early! They cost twice as
much. They appear to be a little better quality with a larger hole needed at cockpit
bracket than Van's. Won't install them for another two to three months.
--------
Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Bldr# 40983 SB Started 12/1/09.
Fuselage Sec 45 Doors/Transparencies- 1228 hrs to date.
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| Subject: | Doors and Sean Strasburg's kit |
Still working on doors. Yes, adding the windows and latch assy. does change the
door fit. I'm sure the McMaster Carr seal will too. The doors seemed pretty stiff
until adding more weight, then there is really alot of flexing at the door
hinge attachments. Sean makes a good kit, definitely worth the money. I just
wish I had one set of instructions to go by instead of going back and forth.
The only thing I noticed so far that does not seem right is cutting the latch
pins 1 3/4" past the "closed/extended position mark". This does not allow enough
of the untapered pin to extend into jambs properly. I think I will leave 2"
on the second door today. Then it is on to cutting/building up the cabin cover
flange for the seal. How much compression do I really need on that door seal??
I was thinking maybe about 3/16" or half the bulb diameter to keep from putting
so much tension on the door. I think I have about 1/16" clearance between
flange and door at the top so that will really need some grinding and building
up on the bottom side. Any advice is much appreciated!
--------
Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Bldr# 40983 SB Started 12/1/09.
Fuselage Sec 45 Doors/Transparencies- 1228 hrs to date.
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Here is the clone site URL:
http://airplanelogs.com/
Robin
*From:* Robin Marks [mailto:Robin@PaintTheWeb.com]
*Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2011 10:27 AM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: RV10-List: G900X
Gary & David,
Another way to do that is during shutdown (on my system) the MFD
is turned off but the PFD stays on. At that point it is just like revision
mode. Follow the procedure listed below Engine > System to get your time.
I have two other suggestions.
Some time ago I mentioned to the RV List a free website called
www.CirrusReports.com I record my flight data for every flight on the top
MFD SD Card slot. About once every 4-6 flights I swap out the SD card for
the backup SD card I carry in my flight bag camera case. Take the SD card to
any computer, delete any small files that represent engine starts but not
flights (they are obvious due to file size) and then upload the flight data
to CR.com. The upload process is fast & easy. I uploaded 6 flights yesterday
and it took probably 2 minutes. From there CR.com presents every single
engine & flight parameter you can imagine including Geo-referenced map, and
charts of every engine item with the option to display any 4 individual
items at once so you can see for example Fuel Flow vs. CHT's. Speed vs. RPM.
The combinations are enlightening. It also has a spread sheet function to
give you Departure/Arrival times, Hobbs time, Flight time etc... In many
ways it can substitute for your Log Book as far as accurate flight dates,
hours, notes. You can choose to make your flight data public or keep it
private. I have decided to make mine available to the public.
http://www.cirrusreports.com/flights/N110EE/ Because it has this data it
also has a simple export to Google Earth in both 3D view & Cockpit View.
Here is a screen capture of the 3D view for a local flight I took back in
August. Again this took less than 1 minute to produce:
[image: Flight.JPG]
Here is a close up (from the other side of the airport) of my departure &
arrival on different runways plus the over flight of the airport. It even
shows I taxied back to Self Serve Fuel. Very powerful!
[image: flight2.JPG]
Nice feature!
Moving on I have one more suggestion. If you have not installed the latest
version of the G900X OS. It has many small changes I have noticed. For
example it has Ground Speed now displayed next to True Air Speed so I can
eliminate the GS I normally had as an option on the MFD and can use that
space for some other parameter like ETA. It has an updated Flight Planning
system and displays including different flags that I still have no idea what
they mean. It also has some really cool features like anytime you scroll
over an airport or roll over one in the Flight Planner it gives you instant
weather reporting vs. having to push a couple of additional page buttons and
leave the map display to get updated field WX info. Very tidy info. I bring
this up because I bet there is a better representation of times in the new
OS. I just have not played with it enough to know the differences yet. Also
if you want to make a stink about these times with Garmin one day they may
just place the times in their own section on the appropriate status page
some day as they should have from the start.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 8:31 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: G900X
This is one of the dumb features on an otherwise great system. To get to
time in service, press the red reversion button on the audio panel. Then on
the PFD select the engine soft button and then in the lower left corner is
the time in service. I think it calculates only flying time derived from
ground speed trigger, but am not totally sure about that.
Gary Specketer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Leikam
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 10:39 PM
Subject: RV10-List: G900X
For those who are flying a G900X panel,
How does the system calculate "TTL Time in Service?" I called Garmin and
the guy I spoke with told me he would get and answer and call me back, two
days ago.
It is not from engine start to shut down.
David Leikam
RV10
40496
N89DA
Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Doors and Sean Strasburg's kit |
Hey Wayne,
Pin extension is totally up to the builder. I recommend 1-1/4+. The way Vans'
plans have it you get just over an inch. The reason I suggest 1-3/4 on the 180
kit is to take advantage of the cam and to allow it to pull the door in before
the pins come out of the door. Anything over an inch is better than the original
design.
When I initially built my doors I had my seal squeezed way too much and finally
relieved it by making my door reveal 1/4 instead of 3/16. This is still really
tight and the door shuts with minimal effort.
McMaster seals come in both 3/16 and 1/4 edges so if you are too tight with a 1/4
inch lip you can do what I did and take off a 1/16 and make it 3/16 edge.
This makes the reveal bigger, which in my case 1/4. Hope that made sense and
I hope this helps.
Anyone should call if you have any questions. 801-580-3737
--------
Cust. #40936
RV-10 SB Fuselage
N801VR reserved
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Hi all
-
I have just started to do an initial fit of the fuel tank and leading edge
ribs into the skins and found the ribs to be extremely difficult to seat in
to the nose of the skins, at least to have the holes line up for the clecoe
s.-
-
I have fluted and straightened the ribs, and still they appear to be far ti
ghter than the vertical stab ever was.- Can't imagine throwing tank seala
nt into the mix.
-
Any suggestions or words of advise????
-
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont=0A=0A
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I was in the same situation as you a couple months ago. These do seem
to be the tightest fitting ribs so far in the whole build. The easiest
way I found to get them in is to start on the top side leading edges and
just start a few clecoes in them. Then flip the skin/ribs over and work
them into place adding a few clecoes on this side. Flip back over and
add a few more. Do a few at a time on each side all the way to the
trailing edge. I sealed my first tank a couple weekends ago and will do
the second tank this weekend. They do start to fit a little easier when
you get them drilled and dimpled, but still tighter than any other ribs
yet. If you have a second or even a third set of hands helping when you
seal it's much easier. I had two other guys helping me out when I did
my first tank and I cannot even imagine doing it by myself--I know there
are guys that have done it solo but extra hands is always better.
Good luck,
Bill
From: Rick Lark
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 8:48 PM
Subject: RV10-List: ribs/skins
Hi all
I have just started to do an initial fit of the fuel tank and
leading edge ribs into the skins and found the ribs to be extremely
difficult to seat into the nose of the skins, at least to have the holes
line up for the clecoes.
I have fluted and straightened the ribs, and still they appear to
be far tighter than the vertical stab ever was. Can't imagine throwing
tank sealant into the mix.
Any suggestions or words of advise????
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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