Today's Message Index:
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1. 06:41 AM - Re: WingX 7 for iPad (Tim Olson)
2. 12:18 PM - Re: Canopy Skirt Buzz... (Matt Dralle)
3. 02:59 PM - Re: RV-8 Insurance... (Matt Dralle)
4. 06:35 PM - Re: Re: RV-8 Insurance... (Don McDonald)
5. 06:59 PM - Re: Re: RV-8 Insurance... (Matt Dralle)
6. 09:24 PM - Re: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up (Scott Schmidt)
7. 11:44 PM - Re: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up (Robin Marks)
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| Subject: | Re: WingX 7 for iPad |
I believe that is right. Foreflight is something like $79/yr
for the standard version, and $149 for the HD Pro version that
gives the Seattle Avionics Geo-referencing. WingX is $99/yr
for their software, plus $75/yr for Seattle Avionics geo-referencing.
Also, on WingX, you can optionally buy the fuel pricing from 100LL.com
for I think $29. Personally, I paid something like $299 on a
special, for the Seattle Avionics data subscription for the
"lifetime" benefit again. It's used on a handful of apps
(not Foreflight, which ticked me off a bit), so it's semi-portable.
I thought at the time the SA data was $99, but now I see it's
$75.
Now, keep in mind that for both versions, paying that extra
$75 ONLY gives you the benefit of geo-referenced approach
plates, for the most part...I'm pretty sure that's the case
on Foreflight, and I think it's true for WingX too. So, you
can still view regular approach plates without paying that
extra charge, for someone who wants to try it out without
breaking the bank. All it does is put your airplane on the
approach plate so you know exactly where you are. Some people
will care, some won't. For non-IFR pilots, I wouldn't even
bother.
The fuel pricing is nicer on WingX. On Foreflight, you get
great fuel pricing included but only when you have internet
access. On WingX, you download the database and it's on the
iPad when you fly. So for me, that's a huge benefit, because
I often will reroute in-flight for various reasons and that
allows me to quickly pick lower priced fuel stops...and I
can easily pay for $29 in ONE fuel stop. In fact, you
can save enough if you fly a couple big trips a year
that you can pay for the entire APP!
When it comes to the apps themselves, Foreflight really
kicks butt when it comes to weather, and they were doing
great with sectionals and low-enroute charts and things like
that. But, WingX really blew them out of the water on
the in-flight functionality, especially with this new release.
Just the way the main map screen is put together, it makes
it very easy to transition from screen to screen. You can
load a plan, fly it, and hit buttons like "approach" that
will automatically bring up the destination approach plate.
So it's very handy. I haven't flown with this latest
release, so I'm hoping it's just as straight forward, but
it looks like it will be. The terrain enhanced sectionals
and stuff are pretty nice, too.
To be straightforward, I should tell you that my Foreflight
subscription recently turned non-standard. I had just
renewed and paid $125/yr, which was the plan for covering
2 iPhones and 1 iPad, when Andrea got her iPhone and we
switched to Verizon. So I thought I was all set, at $125/yr.
But then a couple days later they released the HD version.
I emailed them a little ticked off because I wanted to
at least TRY HD for a year, knowing the WingX really looked
better in flight (i.e. I would recommend WingX as an
in-flight app rather than pay extra for foreflight HD, but
I still would recommend Foreflight standard for pre-flight),
but I thought, since I, on my own dime, like to try these
apps and tell y'all about them, it would be stupid for me
not to try the HD version. But, to upgrade my plan, they
then wanted something like $250 or some huge number like
that, which as you can see is double the $125 I had paid
a couple days ago. So, they did a custom upgrade for me
so I could use it for a year on one iPhone and iPad and
still have Andrea's phone on the account....so I didn't
have to pay all the way up to $250 but some price I don't
remember, that's in between. If it weren't for the wife's
phone, pricing would be simpler.
That brings up one other big big difference....
With Foreflight, you can load the software on all your
iDevices...but you can only sign in on one iPhone, and
one iPad, with the subscription (the standard one).
So for me and Andrea, you have to start doing special
things/plans, to cover both our phones. She just likes
Foreflight for the WX, as it's just so awesome for that.
Now that we have an iPad 2, I wanted to put it on both
iPads so I could choose which one I used in-flight. Well,
I can only have ONE of them signed in at a time. The issue
for me is, I have a jailbroken old iPad that works great
with my Bluetooth GPS. iOS 4.3 isn't jailbroken yet, so
the iPad 2 I'm forced to use the GPS that's built-in,
unless I buy the plug-in one. I know others like the
plug-in one, but I think it sucks to have one more thing
to plug in during flight, especially if you can bang it
and damage the port or the device. Bluetooth GPS is
really ideal. (The other one that's wi-fi wouldn't
be so bad) But I also already own 3 of those bluetooth
GPS's, so I want it that way. So this means that on our
next trip, I have to figure out which iPad I want to use,
and stick with it until I can sign in/out again, and give
the other one to the kids for movies. Not a huge deal,
but, it just shows that each iPad isn't equal. I'll probably
use the iPad 2 on the way down, just to see how the GPS
works. If it doesn't work great, I'll get fuel and swap
the sign-in.
Now, with WingX, as long as the devices are on the same iTunes
account, I have WingX Pro 7 on BOTH iPads, and it works
simultaneously, without signing in and out. So, if you are
planning to play with it on multiple devices, that's a benefit
too. You can have a "backup ipad" that way, ready to go.
So see, I'm not totally burned, because since WingX is really
the best in-flight app right now, and it works on both,
it's what I'm probably going to be using anyway.
WingX on the iPhone though, is much less useful. I don't
even use it, really. Right now, today, I consider it
worthless compared to Foreflight. So if you're an iPhone
user, stick to only Foreflight. See, that's where it gets
so complicated...one app is better on one platform and one
on the other....at least with foreflight, you get free
usage on an iPad too....so we can have awesome weather planning
at the hotel using foreflight.
Now, on to your last thing....Yes, as you know, I too have
a lifetime Voyager (Seattle Avionics) data subscription at the
EFB level. So, personally, I wasn't thrilled to spend all
the money on these other apps. But, I'm a geek, so I did.
Hopefully it helps others out a bit. Right now, Voyager
is fairly useless to me, simply due to the hardware. I use
it for planning trips from my PC, but with WingX as far as it
is, it's basically not worth me bringing the old LE1600 into
the cockpit anymore. The battery life sucks compared to
iPad. Using a stylus sucks compared to iPad. The display
is less bright than iPad. (See the attached .jpgs...3 is
the iPad, 6 is the LE1600 WITH the viewanywhere display)
(Note, the ipad has a Brando Anti-Glare protector on it!)
The weight of LE1600 is much more than iPad. The charger
is many times bulkier and heavier than iPad. The LE1600
sucks as a movie platform, iPad rocks. The list is endless.
So, there isn't much place for Voyager right now for me,
as long as they aren't on iPad. There is ONE exception.
I reviewed the capabilities on this trip to Mexico. WingX
is USELESS in Mexico. No charts, no database that includes
Mexican airports. Probably not canada either...so Alaska
fliers may not like it for flying up through Canada. Foreflight
actually has the airports in the database, but no sectional
view available, and I think the only map that shows up
requires internet access to see the map, and doesn't display
the airports in Mexico. So at least Foreflight can plan
distances and give you headings and things to save your butt.
Voyager, however, has not only the database, but displays
airways in canada, and gives you airports and terrain. If
I remember right from playing with it a couple weeks ago,
it looks like you can use Voyager to fly in Mexico and Canada
without too much issue. So, on my mexico trip, I do
plan to lug that freakin' tablet along, just hoping not
to use it too much. The iPad can load (using goodreader
is how I did it) the government provided CH-22 WAC chart
that covers mexico though, in .tif form....so, I actually
was able to use iPad to view the WAC and that will work
just fine...it won't give you any GPS stuff, or put
you on the map, but you can at least not carry a paper
chart.
I have emailed the folks at Seattle Avionics and expressed
my displeasure with them not getting an iPad app going
fast enough. It sounds like they have been very busy
(obviously), getting their DATA into all the other apps
that they could. They are really our only hope against
Jeppesen, for reasonably priced NavData, so I'm glad that
they are so ingrained into all these apps. In the past,
they have told me that if/when they do an iPad app,
your lifetime subscription will be applicable to that app.
That is a big relief. They also told me I should expect
to see some really cool news around Sun-N-Fun (i'm hoping
it's true), and that I'll see even BIGGER news around
OSH. So, perhaps by late summer we'll have something else
that will come in and take the place on my iPad of
Foreflight and WingX, or at least one of them.
Also, regarding voyager, they told me that they just started
a NEW PROGRAM for iPad folks, where if you've bought an iPad
subscription for any of their partners programs, then
they'll discount a year of Voyager subscription 50%, so VFR
that's $99 is only $49, for instance, and VFR+IFR that's
$199 is only $99, and EFB at $299 is only $149.
They're doing this to provide some relief in the interim
until they have something else in place to offer.
Wow, that went on far longer than I thought it would.
Guess I better start actual work work now. :)
At any rate, I love these apps, all 3 of them, for various
reasons. Ideally they'd all be available in one
platform (iPad) and you wouldn't need any other platform.
If any of them could do on iPad what Voyager does on PC,
I wouldn't even USE a PC for anything flight planning
related anymore...I'd only use an iPad. Presently
though, I like to PC plan on Voyager, Weather plan (and
file) on Foreflight, and then actually fly, with
WingX (in the US 50). Sadly, that costs some money, but,
with lifetime subscriptions in place, the annual cost
could be as low as $75+$129 (Foreflight standard +
WingX with fuel, free Voyager with my lifetime). That's
pretty cheap compared to the truckload of cash I
have to pay Jepp for their NavData on my 2 systems
in the plane....and the above software is even
easier to keep current.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
On 3/21/2011 8:57 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Robin Marks<Robin@painttheweb.com>
>
> Tim,
> To be clear since the HiltonSoftware site is not; you pay
> $99.00/year for the WingX Pro 7 plus another $75.00 for the Seattle
> Avionics chart data subscription. And you pay $149 for ForeFlight HD Pro
> that includes the Seattle Avionics chart data subscription? Does that
> sound right?
> Oh... I have a lifetime subscription to Seattle Avionics but for
> PC Tablets that I have never used.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Skirt Buzz... |
At 10:25 AM 3/22/2011 Tuesday, you wrote:
>Matt,
>Did you settle on a material that you preferred for deadening the canopy buzz
[on your RV-8]? We are experiencing the same thing but at a very narrow speed
range. Before we reinvent the wheel I figured I would ask.
>
>Thanks,
>Robin
Hi Robin,
Yes, solved mostly. Here the stuff to get:
http://cshyde.thomasnet.com/viewitems/tapes-with-psa/uhmw-tape--black-anti-stat-rubber-adhesive?forward=1
This is black UHMW table with a rubber adhesive (good to 150F). I got the .020"
stuff.
Its not very bendable sideways, so don't try to get the .5" kind and wrap it around
the s-curve in the back. It definitely won't stick for very long.
Get the 6" wide stuff - Part number <http://cshyde.thomasnet.com/viewitems/tapes-with-psa//item/tapes-with-psa/uhmw-tape--black-anti-stat-rubber-adhesive/anti-stat-uhmw-19-20blk-6-5?>19-20BLK-6-5 (5 yards) or <http://cshyde.thomasnet.com/viewitems/tapes-with-psa//item/tapes-with-psa/uhmw-tape--black-anti-stat-rubber-adhesive/anti-stat-uhmw-19-20blk-6-18?>19-20BLK-6-18 (18 yards) - and lay it flat over the skirt on the inside and then trace the contour. Move it up by about .75" and then trace again. Then cut out the piece which should be a perfect fit around the inside edge of the canopy skirt. I forgot to take any pictures of the process! That's so not like me! :-)
I also used the .5" stuff (<http://cshyde.thomasnet.com/viewitems/tapes-with-psa//item/tapes-with-psa/uhmw-tape--black-anti-stat-rubber-adhesive/anti-stat-uhmw-19-20blk-5-5?>19-20BLK-.5-5) for along the straight left and right side of the skirt. Although, I wish I'd used the .75 stuff.
Seems to dampen the vibration and also doesn't mark the paint/metal due to its
low co-efficient of friction. Its basically the same stuff that Van's sells for
the flaps, but much thicker and black. I also like the high-temp rubber adhesive.
We'll see how it holds up over the Summer.
My only complaint is that I wish they made a .040" thick version.
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 153+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left To Do...
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Insurance... |
Here's this year's Insurance Quotes along with the coverage details on my RV-8.
Can you guess which one I went with?
$1m/$100k Liability
$5000-$10000 Medical
$0 Deductible
$150k Hull Ground/Air
153 Hours, Aircraft
153 Hours in Type, Pilot
450 Hours Total, Pilot
242 Hours TW, Pilot
Avemco: $5811
EAA/Falcon: $2975 ($3075 last year included Test & 1st 10 hours)
NationAir/Chartis $2888
AOPA/AIG $2475
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left To Do...
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Insurance... |
Matt, we are in a similiar position.... I have more hours in the RV10, but
less =0Atotal hours.- Did you have a contact with AOPA/AIG?=0AIIRC I'm pa
ying a little less than $1,800, but have no hull insurance while =0Amoving.
=0AThanks, Don McDonald=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFr
om: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>=0ATo: rv-list@matronics.com; rv8-lis
t@matronics.com; rv7-list@matronics.com; =0Arv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent:
Tue, March 22, 2011 4:56:15 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Re: RV-8 Insurance...
=0A=0AHere's this year's Insurance Quotes along with the coverage details o
n my RV-8.- =0ACan you guess which one I went with?=0A=0A$1m/$100k Liabil
ity=0A$5000-$10000 Medical=0A$0 Deductible=0A$150k Hull Ground/Air=0A=0A153
Hours, Aircraft=0A153 Hours in Type, Pilot=0A450 Hours Total, Pilot=0A242
Hours TW, Pilot=0A=0A- - - - Avemco:- - - - - - - -
$5811=0A- - - - EAA/Falcon:- - - - - - $2975 ($3075 la
st year included Test & 1st 10 =0Ahours)=0A- - - - NationAir/Charti
s- - - $2888=0A- - - - AOPA/AIG- - - - - - -
- $2475=0A=0A=0A-=0AMatt Dralle=0ARV-8 #82880 N998RV=0Ahttp://www.mattsrv
8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Ma
tt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel=0AStatus: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All
======================0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Insurance... |
The AOPA agent I worked with was Clint Dayhuff clint.dayhuff@aopaia.com Very nice
guy. Got me a quote back in 1.5 days. Retained over the phone.
Matt
At 06:30 PM 3/22/2011 Tuesday, you wrote:
>Matt, we are in a similiar position.... I have more hours in the RV10, but less
total hours. Did you have a contact with AOPA/AIG?
>IIRC I'm paying a little less than $1,800, but have no hull insurance while moving.
>Thanks, Don McDonald
>
>
>From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>To: rv-list@matronics.com; rv8-list@matronics.com; rv7-list@matronics.com; rv10-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 4:56:15 PM
>Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-8 Insurance...
>
>
>Here's this year's Insurance Quotes along with the coverage details on my RV-8.
Can you guess which one I went with?
>
>$1m/$100k Liability
>$5000-$10000 Medical
>$0 Deductible
>$150k Hull Ground/Air
>
>153 Hours, Aircraft
>153 Hours in Type, Pilot
>450 Hours Total, Pilot
>242 Hours TW, Pilot
>
> Avemco: $5811
> EAA/Falcon: $2975 ($3075 last year included Test & 1st 10 hours)
> NationAir/Chartis $2888
> AOPA/AIG $2475
>
>
>-
>Matt Dralle
>RV-8 #82880 N998RV
><http://www.mattsrv8.com/>http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
><http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8>http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
>Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left To Do...
>
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| Subject: | Re: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up |
Almost every insurance company will cover you in Mexico. I purchased a sep
arate =0Apolicy only because there has been some areas that did not get the
word that you =0Adon't need insurance from a Mexican company anymore. My
policy for 10 days was =0A$65. =0A=0AWith RV's I would have no problem reco
mmending to anyone to go land there, =0Aexplore and have a blast. Almost e
veryone I ran into said no one will touch a =0Alow wing, they only want the
high wings (182, 206 and 210's). Your right about =0Athe prop locks, they
are almost worthless. They may keep the small guys away =0Abut if they wa
nt your plane they will get it. =0AMy first trip down there last year was
incredible and the people are so nice and =0Ainviting. I would rather ever
yone think this is a dangerous place so they don't =0Aall crowd up the hote
l rooms. (psssss....it's not)=0AAgain, I can't tell you how many great peop
le there are down there. It just =0Asupports the fact that people are good
, the news is bad. Now that does not mean =0Athere are not bad people and
you should not be careful. I am careful when I fly =0Ato California. Anyway
, I am not trying to convince anyone that Mexico is safe, =0Ajust be carefu
l where you get your information. =0AOne thing that amazes me everywhere I
travel in Mexico is the number of =0AAmericans that live down there either
full time or just in the winter. I have =0Anot met one person that says t
hey have ever had a problem down there or think it =0Ais unsafe. =0A=0AThi
s year like Tim said we are going all the way down to Cabo. Last year I on
ly =0Amade it to Loreto but I hope to show them some of the cool spots on t
he way down =0Aand hit some of the cool airports on beaches. Here is a lin
k from my trip last =0Ayear.=0Ahttp://www.vansairforce.com/community/showth
read.php?t=54561=0A=0AWe won't be seeing whales this year but I plan on t
aking kite surfing lessons. =0AScott Schmidt=0Ascottmschmidt@yahoo.com=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: John Gonzalez <indi
goonlatigo@msn.com>=0ATo: RV 10 group <rv10-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Mon
, March 21, 2011 1:06:16 PM=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel
Axle replacement write-up=0A=0A You seriously should find out whether your
aircraft insurance will cover =0Ayou and your plane while down there. =0A
=0A =0AI used to drive the the East Cape area, towing a 20 foot boat in ano
ther life =0Atime. I would not even dream of doing that now. =0A=0A =0AAs
for the stories I have heard, an aireal recon of Baja is great, but I would
=0Anot land there. WHether the plane has a lock on the prop or not, they s
teal it =0Aanyway, because they will hold a gun to the head of who ever is
watching over =0Athe plane or if not find you and do the same. =0A=0A =0ATh
is is no joking matter, ask your insurance carrier.=0A =0AJust my two cents
and I wouldn't do it.=0A =0AJOhn G=0A =0A> From: speckter@comcast.net=0A>
el Axle replacement write-up=0A> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:40:59 -0400=0A>
> Think AK47 and RPG when you pack. Leave the camera stuff home.=0A> =0A> G
ary Specketer=0A> =0A> -----Original Message-----=0A> From: owner-rv10-list
-server@matronics.com=0A> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Olson=0A> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 2:07 PM=0A> To: rv10-l
ist@matronics.com=0A> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle re
@myrv10.com>=0A> =0A> I'm joining Scott for a little trip to the Baja, down
by Cabo=0A> real soon. Not even a resort this time...RaNae got a great=0A>
looking house to stay at. I'm a bit nervous about the=0A> security/safety
aspect of Mexico though....I would prefer it=0A> if we all come home with o
ur heads still on our bodies,=0A> and that my daughters don't get sold off
into the=0A> human sex trafficking market. So I'm doing everything I=0A> ca
n to make sure the RV-10 is at 100% for the trip, and=0A> will be guarantee
d to bring us home. :)=0A> =0A> Should be a good time...and I'll definitely
do a write-up.=0A> I bought a new camera lens for the trip too that will
=0A> help us pack lighter and give good shots.=0A> =0A> Tim Olson - RV-10 N
104CD=0A> do not archive=0A> =0A> =0A> On 3/21/2011 12:02 PM, Robin Marks w
com>=0A> >=0A> > Tim,=0A> > Where are you planning to fly that requires 3 n
ew tires and a prop=0A> > lock? And when are you planning this trip? I have
no idea where you are=0A> > going but I already can=99t wait for the
photos& write up.=0A> >=0A> > Living vicariously through Tim's family vaca
tions,=0A> > Robin=0A> >=0A> > -----Original Message-----=0A> > From: owner
-rv10-list-server@matronics.com=0A> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matron
ics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson=0A> > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 9:11 AM
=0A> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com=0A> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Matco RV-1
0 Nosewheel Axle replacement=0A> > write-upMatco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle repla
myrv10.com>=0A> >=0A> > This weekend I decided to install all my new 3 tire
s I bought=0A> > last fall, since I'm going to perhaps be landing on not th
e=0A> > most improved runways shortly. My nose tire is at basically=0A> > 7
00 hours. My mains I've just installed my 3rd set at=0A> > basically 700 ho
urs. The Desser 15/6.00-6 High Performance=0A> > Retreads really did well f
or me...they had plenty of beef left=0A> > to them and would have lasted dr
amatically longer than the=0A> > ones that came with the kit. The rubber is
just plain better,=0A> > from the sounds of it. All 3 tires that I just re
placed could=0A> > have gone another 50-100 hours probably, and I would hav
e=0A> > just kept using them if I weren't going out of the US and I=0A> > j
ust can't risk not having easy tire access.=0A> >=0A> > My complication cam
e with the nosewheel.=0A> >=0A> > As many people already know, the NW501.25
that comes with=0A> > the kit isn't meant for the tire/tube that we use. T
he proper=0A> > wheel is NW511.25, and if you haven't installed yours=0A> >
yet, you should just return your NW501.25, and buy a new=0A> > one from Ma
tco, or at least contact them for a swap.=0A> > Here is my old write-up on
the subject.=0A> >=0A> > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090120/ind
ex.html=0A> >=0A> > So when I went to replace the nose wheel, I installed a
new=0A> > tire, and leakguard tube. Whereas before, my stem cleared=0A> >
plenty good, even with a valve cap on it, it now interfered=0A> > by AT LEA
ST as much as it had cleared before...at least=0A> > 1/8 to 3/16". I tried
bending the stem a little, but after=0A> > 2 attempts, I broke the stem...$
50 down the toilet. I was=0A> > cursing the whole time, as I finally experi
enced what many=0A> > other people already had.=0A> >=0A> > I continued on
by installing my old tube, which fit ok,=0A> > and has clearance again. Thi
s got me even more confused,=0A> > but there was a difference...my stem had
a joggle on it on=0A> > the old tube.=0A> >=0A> > So today, I said screw t
his, and ordered an entire new=0A> > nosewheel assembly from Matco, and a n
ew tube. But in=0A> > talking with them, I learned something that we haven'
t really=0A> > discussed before...the big "new" part of this whole ordeal..
.=0A> > there are apparently 2 different types of tubes...one is=0A> > by D
esser, and the other is some other company...I can't=0A> > remember the nam
e but it rang a bell...maybe because it=0A> > came with the kit.=0A> >=0A>
> The difference is the joggle....the desser stem is straight,=0A> > and th
e other stem has the joggle...and that makes all=0A> > the difference in th
e world. Yes, the stupid NW501.25 style=0A> > rim should have never been so
ld with the kit in the first place,=0A> > but, knowing there were 2 differe
nt tubes makes me understand=0A> > why this wasn't a universal problem amon
g us.=0A> >=0A> > So, with the new NW511.25 wheel and tube, and a new 5.00x
5=0A> > tire, I'm probably good until 1500 hours. Anyone want to buy=0A> >
a NW501.25 real cheap? I should melt it down and send it=0A> > to Vans.=0A>
>=0A> > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD=0A> > do not archive=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > On
"pascal"<pascal@rv10builder.net>=0A> >>=0A> >> Although one may argue that
the cap is not necessary, with my finishing=0A> >> kit and following the in
structions to a "t" there is no way I would have=0A> >> been able to work a
solution to allow me to keep a cap on the valve. I=0A> >> had close to 1/8
th overlap with the cap and 1/16th without, even moving=0A> >> spacers and
such would not have worked for me.=0A> >> I simply want to let many know th
at in this case what may not work for=0A> >> me or Tim may or may not work
for someone else. Given the chance get the=0A> >> right tool for the job, i
n this case the right rim, you can do what I=0A> >> did and see if it's goi
ng to impact you and if it does replace it or you=0A> >> can just do as man
y have said, tell Van's to keep the "wrong" rim and=0A> >> order the right
one directly either Grove or Matco.=0A> >> I ended up ordering a new rim wi
th the axle, I could have tested the new=0A> >> axle and seen if that solve
d the gap issue before possibly needing to=0A> >> replace the rim but I'm o
kay with having replaced it with the "right"=0A> >> piece.=0A> >> Pascal=0A
> >>=0A> >>=0A> >> --------------------------------------------------=0A> >
> From: "Tim Olson"<Tim@MyRV10.com>=0A> >> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 200
9 8:43 AM=0A> >> To:<rv10-list@matronics.com>=0A> >> Subject: Re: RV10-List
: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement=0A> >> write-upMatco RV-10 Nosewhe
el Axle replacement write-up=0A> >>=0A> >>> --> RV10-List message posted by
: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com>=0A> >>>=0A> >>> If you have a Matco nosewheel a
xle for them, you shouldn't have=0A> >>> a problem running a valve cap on t
he stem, regardless of the wheel=0A> >>> you use. With the "right" wheel yo
u'll have tons of clearance,=0A> >>> with the "wrong" wheel it'll still wor
k fine. Just note that=0A> >>> I've had all versions of axles/spacers from
Van's, And the=0A> >>> Matco Axle setup, and I've always had the "wrong" wh
eel, and=0A> >>> I STILL have always been able to always run a valve cap. I
=0A> >>> just didn't have as much clearance in the past as I do now, now=0A
> >>> that I have the Matco Axle setup. For that matter, even if=0A> >>> so
mething weren't yet perfect, it could be fixed easily by=0A> >>> shaving a
1/16" off of the spacer on one side of the=0A> >>> axle, and adding a large
flat washer on the other side.=0A> >>> But I hesitate to even say that bec
ause that's going to an=0A> >>> extreme that is probably way unnecessary.
=0A> >>>=0A> >>> Also, if you order the grove nosewheel, I don't think you
want=0A> >>> the Matco axle assy, from what it sounds like...although I've
=0A> >>> never seen a grove axle assembly picture.=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying=0A> >>> do not archive=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A
> >>> Bob and Karen Brown wrote:=0A> >>>> OK, earlier this week, I ordered
the Matco nosewheel axle for both=0A> >>>> the RV7A and the RV10. Here
=99s my question, does that mean I still=0A> >>>> have to order the Grov
e nosewheel if I want to put on the darned=0A> >>>> valve stem cap? If I or
der just the Grove nosewheel, do I still NEED=0A> >>>> the Matco nosewheel
axle assy? Call me confused=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> *From:* owner-rv10-l
ist-server@matronics.com=0A> >>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.
com] *On Behalf Of=0A> >>>> *ricksked@embarqmail.com=0A> >>>> *Sent:* Wedne
sday, February 11, 2009 8:20 PM=0A> >>>> *To:* Rv=0A> >>>> *Subject:* Re: R
V10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement=0A> >>>> write-upMatco RV-
10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> FWIW, as a late po
st on my part, I bought the Grove wheel and=0A> >>>> axel...only thing I ca
n say is it's really nice to have a complete=0A> >>>> engineered WORKING as
sembly with no valve stem, bearing preload or=0A> >>>> spacers to deal with
....I hope that this is the final answer to what=0A> >>>> equates to a very
simple engineering solution...the nose wheel never=0A> >>>> should have ge
nerated this much trouble...I knew there would be a=0A> >>>> point in my li
fe I would regret not getting my P.E. Stamp...=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> Rick Sked
=0A> >>>> 40185=0A> >>>> Oh so close=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> Sent via BlackBerry
by AT&T=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> > -------------------------------------------
-----------------------------=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> *From*: John Gonzalez=0A> >
>>> *Date*: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:49:50 -0800=0A> >>>> *To*: RV 10 group<rv10
-list@matronics.com>=0A> >>>> *Subject*: RE: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewhe
el Axle replacement=0A> >>>> write-upMatco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement
write-up=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> Okay. I am about to put the nose whell on the p
lane=2C but I am=0A> >>>> ordering th= e SS axle. If I stick with the c
urrent wheel=2C I know=0A> >>>> it will work with th= e SS axle=2C bu
t i will not be able to put the=0A> >>>> valve stem cap on...is this = co
rrect.-=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> If I call Matco and ask for the other half o
= f the rim=2C will it=0A> >>>> work with the SS axle???=0A> >>>>=0A> >
>>> I am= inclined to leaving the valve cover off. Talk about making=0A>
>>>> thing complicat= ed...Good grief Charlie Brown!=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> Wh
at else am I miss= ing?=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> John=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>> From: p
ascal@rv10builder.net=0A> >>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com=0A> >>>>> Subje
ct: Re: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nos= ewheel Axle replacement=0A> >>>> writ
e-upMatco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement wri= te-up=0A> >>>>> Date: Wed
=2C 11 Feb 2009 18:34:36 -0800=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>>>> --> RV10-List= messa
ge posted by: "pascal"=0A> > <=3Bpascal@rv10builder.net>=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>
>>> yep!<= br>>=0A> >>>>> WHLNW511.25=2C just in case=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>>
>> P=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>>>> ------------= ----------------------------------
----=0A> >>>>> From: "RV Builder (Michael Saus= en)"<=3Brvbuilder@sause
n.net>=0A> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday=2C February 11=2C 200= 9 5:39 PM=0A>
>>>>> To:<=3Brv10-list@matronics.com>=0A> >>>>> Subject: RE: RV10-Li=
st: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement=0A> >>>> write-upMatco=0A> >>>>>
RV-10 Nosewh= eel Axle replacement write-up=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>>>>> --> RV1
0-List message posted by: = "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)"=0A> >>>>>> <=
3Brvbuilder@sausen.net>=0A> >>>>>>=0A> >>>>> => Don't recall off hand but
they know as soon as you say RV-10.=0A> >>>>>>=0A> >>>>>> = michael=0A>
>>>>>>=0A> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----=0A> >>>>>> From: owner-rv10-li
st= -server@matronics.com=0A> >>>>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matro
nics.com] = On Behalf Of Carl=0A> >>>> Froehlich=0A> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesd
ay=2C February 11=2C 2009 8:= 07 PM=0A> >>>>>> To: rv10-list@matronic
s.com=0A> >>>>>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Matco= RV-10 Nosewheel Axle repl
acement=0A> >>>>>> write-upMatco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle= replacement write-
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I remember that trip and recap. What a wonderful time.
Robin
Do not archive
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:33 PM, Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com> wrote:
Almost every insurance company will cover you in Mexico. I purchased a
separate policy only because there has been some areas that did not get the
word that you don't need insurance from a Mexican company anymore. My
policy for 10 days was $65.
With RV's I would have no problem recommending to anyone to go land there,
explore and have a blast. Almost everyone I ran into said no one will touc
h
a low wing, they only want the high wings (182, 206 and 210's). Your right
about the prop locks, they are almost worthless. They may keep the small
guys away but if they want your plane they will get it.
My first trip down there last year was incredible and the people are so nic
e
and inviting. I would rather everyone think this is a dangerous place so
they don't all crowd up the hotel rooms. (psssss....it's not)
Again, I can't tell you how many great people there are down there. It jus
t
supports the fact that people are good, the news is bad. Now that does not
mean there are not bad people and you should not be careful. I am careful
when I fly to California. Anyway, I am not trying to convince anyone that
Mexico is safe, just be careful where you get your information.
One thing that amazes me everywhere I travel in Mexico is the number of
Americans that live down there either full time or just in the winter. I
have not met one person that says they have ever had a problem down there o
r
think it is unsafe.
This year like Tim said we are going all the way down to Cabo. Last year I
only made it to Loreto but I hope to show them some of the cool spots on th
e
way down and hit some of the cool airports on beaches. Here is a link from
my trip last year.
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=54561
We won't be seeing whales this year but I plan on taking kite surfing
lessons.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
------------------------------
*From:* John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
*To:* RV 10 group <rv10-list@matronics.com>
*Sent:* Mon, March 21, 2011 1:06:16 PM
*Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up
You seriously should find out whether your aircraft insurance will cover
you and your plane while down there.
I used to drive the the East Cape area, towing a 20 foot boat in another
life time. I would not even dream of doing that now.
As for the stories I have heard, an aireal recon of Baja is great, but I
would not land there. WHether the plane has a lock on the prop or not, they
steal it anyway, because they will hold a gun to the head of who ever is
watching over the plane or if not find you and do the same.
This is no joking matter, ask your insurance carrier.
Just my two cents and I wouldn't do it.
JOhn G
> From: speckter@comcast.net
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up
> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:40:59 -0400
>
>
> Think AK47 and RPG when you pack. Leave the camera stuff home.
>
> Gary Specketer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 2:07 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up
>
>
> I'm joining Scott for a little trip to the Baja, down by Cabo
> real soon. Not even a resort this time...RaNae got a great
> looking house to stay at. I'm a bit nervous about the
> security/safety aspect of Mexico though....I would prefer it
> if we all come home with our heads still on our bodies,
> and that my daughters don't get sold off into the
> human sex trafficking market. So I'm doing everything I
> can to make sure the RV-10 is at 100% for the trip, and
> will be guaranteed to bring us home. :)
>
> Should be a good time...and I'll definitely do a write-up.
> I bought a new camera lens for the trip too that will
> help us pack lighter and give good shots.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 3/21/2011 12:02 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
> >
> > Tim,
> > Where are you planning to fly that requires 3 new tires and a prop
> > lock? And when are you planning this trip? I have no idea where you are
> > going but I already can=99t wait for the photos& write up.
> >
> > Living vicariously through Tim's family vacations,
> > Robin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 9:11 AM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement
> > write-upMatco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up
> >
> >
> > This weekend I decided to install all my new 3 tires I bought
> > last fall, since I'm going to perhaps be landing on not the
> > most improved runways shortly. My nose tire is at basically
> > 700 hours. My mains I've just installed my 3rd set at
> > basically 700 hours. The Desser 15/6.00-6 High Performance
> > Retreads really did well for me...they had plenty of beef left
> > to them and would have lasted dramatically longer than the
> > ones that came with the kit. The rubber is just plain better,
> > from the sounds of it. All 3 tires that I just replaced could
> > have gone another 50-100 hours probably, and I would have
> > just kept using them if I weren't going out of the US and I
> > just can't risk not having easy tire access.
> >
> > My complication came with the nosewheel.
> >
> > As many people already know, the NW501.25 that comes with
> > the kit isn't meant for the tire/tube that we use. The proper
> > wheel is NW511.25, and if you haven't installed yours
> > yet, you should just return your NW501.25, and buy a new
> > one from Matco, or at least contact them for a swap.
> > Here is my old write-up on the subject.
> >
> > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090120/index.html
> >
> > So when I went to replace the nose wheel, I installed a new
> > tire, and leakguard tube. Whereas before, my stem cleared
> > plenty good, even with a valve cap on it, it now interfered
> > by AT LEAST as much as it had cleared before...at least
> > 1/8 to 3/16". I tried bending the stem a little, but after
> > 2 attempts, I broke the stem...$50 down the toilet. I was
> > cursing the whole time, as I finally experienced what many
> > other people already had.
> >
> > I continued on by installing my old tube, which fit ok,
> > and has clearance again. This got me even more confused,
> > but there was a difference...my stem had a joggle on it on
> > the old tube.
> >
> > So today, I said screw this, and ordered an entire new
> > nosewheel assembly from Matco, and a new tube. But in
> > talking with them, I learned something that we haven't really
> > discussed before...the big "new" part of this whole ordeal...
> > there are apparently 2 different types of tubes...one is
> > by Desser, and the other is some other company...I can't
> > remember the name but it rang a bell...maybe because it
> > came with the kit.
> >
> > The difference is the joggle....the desser stem is straight,
> > and the other stem has the joggle...and that makes all
> > the difference in the world. Yes, the stupid NW501.25 style
> > rim should have never been sold with the kit in the first place,
> > but, knowing there were 2 different tubes makes me understand
> > why this wasn't a universal problem among us.
> >
> > So, with the new NW511.25 wheel and tube, and a new 5.00x5
> > tire, I'm probably good until 1500 hours. Anyone want to buy
> > a NW501.25 real cheap? I should melt it down and send it
> > to Vans.
> >
> > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > On 2/12/2009 11:57 AM, pascal wrote:
> >>
> >> Although one may argue that the cap is not necessary, with my finishin
g
> >> kit and following the instructions to a "t" there is no way I would
have
> >> been able to work a solution to allow me to keep a cap on the valve. I
> >> had close to 1/8th overlap with the cap and 1/16th without, even movin
g
> >> spacers and such would not have worked for me.
> >> I simply want to let many know that in this case what may not work for
> >> me or Tim may or may not work for someone else. Given the chance get
the
> >> right tool for the job, in this case the right rim, you can do what I
> >> did and see if it's going to impact you and if it does replace it or
you
> >> can just do as many have said, tell Van's to keep the "wrong" rim and
> >> order the right one directly either Grove or Matco.
> >> I ended up ordering a new rim with the axle, I could have tested the
new
> >> axle and seen if that solved the gap issue before possibly needing to
> >> replace the rim but I'm okay with having replaced it with the "right"
> >> piece.
> >> Pascal
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> From: "Tim Olson"<Tim@MyRV10.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:43 AM
> >> To:<rv10-list@matronics.com>
> >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement
> >> write-upMatco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up
> >>
> >>>
> >>> If you have a Matco nosewheel axle for them, you shouldn't have
> >>> a problem running a valve cap on the stem, regardless of the wheel
> >>> you use. With the "right" wheel you'll have tons of clearance,
> >>> with the "wrong" wheel it'll still work fine. Just note that
> >>> I've had all versions of axles/spacers from Van's, And the
> >>> Matco Axle setup, and I've always had the "wrong" wheel, and
> >>> I STILL have always been able to always run a valve cap. I
> >>> just didn't have as much clearance in the past as I do now, now
> >>> that I have the Matco Axle setup. For that matter, even if
> >>> something weren't yet perfect, it could be fixed easily by
> >>> shaving a 1/16" off of the spacer on one side of the
> >>> axle, and adding a large flat washer on the other side.
> >>> But I hesitate to even say that because that's going to an
> >>> extreme that is probably way unnecessary.
> >>>
> >>> Also, if you order the grove nosewheel, I don't think you want
> >>> the Matco axle assy, from what it sounds like...although I've
> >>> never seen a grove axle assembly picture.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> >>> do not archive
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Bob and Karen Brown wrote:
> >>>> OK, earlier this week, I ordered the Matco nosewheel axle for both
> >>>> the RV7A and the RV10. Here=99s my question, does that mean I
still
> >>>> have to order the Grove nosewheel if I want to put on the darned
> >>>> valve stem cap? If I order just the Grove nosewheel, do I still NEED
> >>>> the Matco nosewheel axle assy? Call me confused
> >>>>
> >>>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> >>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> >>>> *ricksked@embarqmail.com
> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:20 PM
> >>>> *To:* Rv
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement
> >>>> write-upMatco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up
> >>>>
> >>>> FWIW, as a late post on my part, I bought the Grove wheel and
> >>>> axel...only thing I can say is it's really nice to have a complete
> >>>> engineered WORKING assembly with no valve stem, bearing preload or
> >>>> spacers to deal with....I hope that this is the final answer to what
> >>>> equates to a very simple engineering solution...the nose wheel never
> >>>> should have generated this much trouble...I knew there would be a
> >>>> point in my life I would regret not getting my P.E. Stamp...
> >>>>
> >>>> Rick Sked
> >>>> 40185
> >>>> Oh so close
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >>>>
> >>>>
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> >>>>
> >>>> *From*: John Gonzalez
> >>>> *Date*: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:49:50 -0800
> >>>> *To*: RV 10 group<rv10-list@matronics.com>
> >>>> *Subject*: RE: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement
> >>>> write-upMatco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up
> >>>>
> >>>> Okay. I am about to put the nose whell on the plane=2C but I am
> >>>> ordering th= e SS axle. If I stick with the current wheel=2C I k
now
> >>>> it will work with th= e SS axle=2C but i will not be able to put
the
> >>>> valve stem cap on...is this = correct.-
> >>>>
> >>>> If I call Matco and ask for the other half o= f the rim=2C will
it
> >>>> work with the SS axle???
> >>>>
> >>>> I am= inclined to leaving the valve cover off. Talk about making
> >>>> thing complicat= ed...Good grief Charlie Brown!
> >>>>
> >>>> What else am I miss= ing?
> >>>>
> >>>> John
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: pascal@rv10builder.net
> >>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >>>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nos= ewheel Axle replacement
> >>>> write-upMatco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement wri= te-up
> >>>>> Date: Wed=2C 11 Feb 2009 18:34:36 -0800
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --> RV10-List= message posted by: "pascal"
> > <=3Bpascal@rv10builder.net>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> yep!<= br>>
> >>>>> WHLNW511.25=2C just in case
> >>>>>
> >>>>> P
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------= --------------------------------------
> >>>>> From: "RV Builder (Michael Saus= en)"<=3Brvbuilder@sausen.net>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday=2C February 11=2C 200= 9 5:39 PM
> >>>>> To:<=3Brv10-list@matronics.com>
> >>>>> Subject: RE: RV10-Li= st: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement
> >>>> write-upMatco
> >>>>> RV-10 Nosewh= eel Axle replacement write-up
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> <=3Brvbuilder@sausen.net>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> => Don't recall off hand but they know as soon as you say RV-10.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> = michael
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: owner-rv10-list= -server@matronics.com
> >>>>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] = On Behalf Of Car
l
> >>>> Froehlich
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday=2C February 11=2C 2009 8:= 07 PM
> >>>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >>>>>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Matco= RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement
> >>>>>> write-upMatco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle= replacement write-up
> >>>>>>
> >>>> <=3Bcarl.froehlich@cox.net>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Carl Froehlich
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