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1. 06:42 AM - RV-10 TAIL KIT (rveighta@comcast.net)
2. 03:50 PM - nose wheel wheelpant bracket (DLM)
3. 06:44 PM - ACK ELT - is anyone getting them shipped? (Bill Watson)
4. 08:54 PM - Re: ACK ELT - is anyone getting them shipped? (Tim Olson)
5. 10:25 PM - Re: For those that haven't bought their avionics yet.................. (Tom Koelzer)
6. 10:25 PM - Panel Pics (Strasnuts)
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I'm listing this for a friend who has an RV-10 Tail Kit for sale. The eleva
tors, vertical stab and rudder are done, the rest is in Van's original box.
He's asking $2800=C2- or best offer. He prefers pickup, but could ship.
=C2- Contact Ed Athey=C2- (423) 863-4466.=C2- Owner is located in Lim
estone, TN.
Thanks,
Walt Shipley
RV-8, RV-8A,=C2- RV-12 under construction
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| Subject: | nose wheel wheelpant bracket |
After 400 hours, the left side bracket developed a crack; If allowed to
continue will result in destruction of the wheel pant. Pictures tomorrow
of crack and fix.
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| Subject: | ACK ELT - is anyone getting them shipped? |
Just curious.. and ready. I've had one on order thru ACS since forever.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: ACK ELT - is anyone getting them shipped? |
They shipped some out already, and more will go right after the AEA show they said....and
they have a pile of programmers to ship to the distributors too. I
was hoping to get mine by 3/31, but it sounds like a couple weeks perhaps before
everyone has the programmers and knows how to use them. They did say if you
didnt care about international use you could get it unprogrammed or something
like that perhaps...with no country code, but I'm not sure about that. I'd
just wait for the dealers to have the programmers....the ELT is such a minor
install, you could do it just before flying.
So anyway, that's what I heard when I called them late last week....they were pumped
up and shipping some, but had to get to the AEA show for a few days before
they sent out tons more.
I'm #8 in line from the dealer I bought from so it should be pretty soon for me.
Tim
On Mar 27, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
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> Just curious.. and ready. I've had one on order thru ACS since forever.
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> Bill
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| Subject: | Re: For those that haven't bought their avionics yet.................. |
I'm behind on my reading and thus late to the fight but had something to contribute.
William noted the advancement of touch screens in military and now GA aircraft
and the importance of human factors. All are subject to the effects of turbulence
regarding the ability of the pilot to enter data. GA aircraft are more susceptible
to turbulence due to light wing loading. The key is anchoring your hand
to effect inputs to the device. I saw the video on the new Garmin touch screen
device but could not visualize the ability to stabilize your hand while inputing
data. Even in the mid eighties, the Brits and others discovered ways to
input data into nav computers, in this case the Jaguar, while flying low level
at significant speeds when even heavy aircraft were susceptible to the effects
turbulence. I remember holding the glare shield with my left hand fingers
while entering the data one number at a time with my thumb into a remote data
key pad as the airplane is jumping all around. This remote pad was conveniently
located on the left glare shield so I could still fly with the right hand and
stay heads-up during the low-level flying. It worked quite well. Maybe we don't
need a glare shield mounted remote key pad but I'm not yet sold on the touch
screens mid-panel mounted in GA aircraft susceptible to effects of turbulence
until I see how to anchor my hand while entering data. Need to see this one
in-flight to make a determination.
My 2-cents,
Tom
On Mar 24, 2011, at 12:43 PM, William Curtis wrote:
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> For better or worse (and I think better) touch screen interface in
> aircraft, cars, etc are here to stay at least until reliable voice
> control or maybe direct mind control :-) comes about. Touch screen
> can be done badly, such as the Bendix/King AV8OR line, and it can be
> done well such as Garmin and iPad.
>
> Anchoring your hand with an intuitive touch screen interface is IMHO
> quicker and easier for data entry than knobs or buttons. I've flown
> with my land Nuvi RAM mounted on the panel and iPad and have no issues
> with entering commands in turbulence. If you look on the Avweb video
> you will see the Garmin pilot rest three fingers on the bezel while
> entering commands with his index finger. All operations were faster
> than if those commands were being entered with knobs. When done this
> was, data entry is effortless. If you allow you hand to freely float
> above the screen it will be difficult.
>
> The F-18 Super Hornet upgrade and the next generation F-35 fighter has
> touch screen interfaces. The military usually invests a significant
> amount of time and money in human factory testing. If touch screen was
> such a bad thing, no consideration would be given to using it in the
> "turbulent" environment of a combat cockpit.
>
> In 1998 Garmin introduced the GNS-430 with a list price of $10,995.
> In 2007? Garmin introduced the GNS-430W with a list price of $11,295.
> In 2011 Garmin introduces the GTN 650 with a list price of $11,495.
>
> Is this a new product too fast or too expensive? I guess it is a
> matter of perspective. For comparison, consider that the Bendix/King
> KX-155 Nav/Comm transceiver with glidescope has a list price of
> $5,008.
>
> --
> William
> N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Dave Saylor
> <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> It seems like touch screen would work a lot better as a kneeboard or
>> on a console. Rubberbanding a route seems hopeless, about as difficult
>> as writing legibly in the same position. I haven't flown with an ipad
>> yet but the GPS in my car is mounted vertically next to the rear view
>> mirror and even on smooth roads it can be difficult to use, especially
>> doing stuff like entering text on the "keyboard".
>>
>> Also, I like the fact that I have three major brands in my panel.
>> They work well together, and if something goes TU I don't have all my
>> eggs in one basket. I guess you can still spread things around with
>> this new hardware but the intention seems to be a single-brand
>> solution.
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Thought I would share some panel pics. Still finishing interior.
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