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1. 11:00 AM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Marcus Cooper)
2. 11:20 AM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Danny Riggs)
3. 01:54 PM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Kelly McMullen)
4. 02:37 PM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Jesse Saint)
5. 03:24 PM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Tim Olson)
6. 05:35 PM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Marcus Cooper)
7. 05:58 PM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Kelly McMullen)
8. 06:14 PM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Jesse Saint)
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Subject: | Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question |
Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought an iPad
2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad reports indicated
an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have gone 3G, but
water under the bridge so the question now is to go with the Bad Elf or the
other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan was the non-plug-in kind
so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496 occasionally loses the GPS
signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and I suspected the iPad laying
on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have the same issue with the Bad Elf.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Marcus
40286
do not archive
On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:21 AM, jkreidler wrote:
>
> The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not have to
have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the pop up that
keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One little detail,
if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off. You want to turn
off wifi and cellular data separately, then the GPS still works.
>
> This is not to say that the built in GPS is great, I am sure the external receivers
are better. But we have been flying with only the internal GPS for almost
a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just fine.
>
> --------
> Jason Kreidler
> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
> N44YH - Flying - #40617
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503
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Subject: | I-Pad2 and Bad elf question |
I rode from near Nashville to Tampa to Pensacola back to near BNA with the
iPad and Bad Elf sitting in my lap last week. Never lost lock. Also works f
rom the middle seat 27 rows back in B737s. Aisle seat it gets a bit sketchy
.
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question
> From: coop85@verizon.net
> Date: Tue=2C 12 Apr 2011 13:55:47 -0400
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought
an iPad 2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad r
eports indicated an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have
gone 3G=2C but water under the bridge so the question now is to go with th
e Bad Elf or the other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan wa
s the non-plug-in kind so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496 o
ccasionally loses the GPS signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and I
suspected the iPad laying on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have th
e same issue with the Bad Elf.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks=2C
> Marcus
> 40286
>
> do not archive
> On Apr 10=2C 2011=2C at 7:21 AM=2C jkreidler wrote:
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> > The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not h
ave to have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the
pop up that keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One l
ittle detail=2C if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off.
You want to turn off wifi and cellular data separately=2C then the GPS sti
ll works.
> >
> > This is not to say that the built in GPS is great=2C I am sure the exte
rnal receivers are better. But we have been flying with only the internal
GPS for almost a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just fine.
> >
> > --------
> > Jason Kreidler
> > 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls=2C WI
> > Tony Kolar=2C Kyle Hokel=2C Wayne Elser=2C Jason Kreidler
> > N44YH - Flying - #40617
> >
> >
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> > Read this topic online here:
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> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503
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Subject: | Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question |
The GNS after a certain serial number and the Bad Elf are both WAAS.
Depends on how you feel about wired/hard connection vs bluetooth where
GPS can be placed in most favorable window.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought an iPad
2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad reports indicated
an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have gone 3G, but
water under the bridge so the question now is to go with the Bad Elf or the
other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan was the non-plug-in kind
so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496 occasionally loses the GPS
signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and I suspected the iPad laying on
my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have the same issue with the Bad Elf.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Marcus
> 40286
>
> do not archive
> On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:21 AM, jkreidler wrote:
>
>>
>> The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not have to
have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the pop up that
keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One little detail,
if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off. You want to turn off
wifi and cellular data separately, then the GPS still works.
>>
>> This is not to say that the built in GPS is great, I am sure the external receivers
are better. But we have been flying with only the internal GPS for almost
a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just fine.
>>
>> --------
>> Jason Kreidler
>> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
>> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
>> N44YH - Flying - #40617
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503
>>
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Subject: | Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question |
The way I use and handle my iPad, I would be afraid of breaking the Bad Elf. I
am jailbroken, so I use a Holux GPS that I put up on the glare shield and it
works extremely well. I wouldn't want something attached to the iPad, but that's
just me.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> The GNS after a certain serial number and the Bad Elf are both WAAS.
> Depends on how you feel about wired/hard connection vs bluetooth where
> GPS can be placed in most favorable window.
>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought an
iPad 2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad reports
indicated an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have gone 3G,
but water under the bridge so the question now is to go with the Bad Elf or the
other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan was the non-plug-in
kind so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496 occasionally loses the
GPS signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and I suspected the iPad laying
on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have the same issue with the Bad
Elf.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marcus
>> 40286
>>
>> do not archive
>> On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:21 AM, jkreidler wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not have
to have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the pop up
that keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One little detail,
if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off. You want to turn
off wifi and cellular data separately, then the GPS still works.
>>>
>>> This is not to say that the built in GPS is great, I am sure the external receivers
are better. But we have been flying with only the internal GPS for almost
a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just fine.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Jason Kreidler
>>> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
>>> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
>>> N44YH - Flying - #40617
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Subject: | Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question |
I'd agree with what Jesse said. My preference order
would probably be something like:
Jailbroken iPad with Bluetooth GPS (not available yet on iPad2)
Built-in iPad2 GPS (Verizon)
Built-in Ipad2 GPS (AT&T)
GNS GPS
Bad Elf GPS
This isn't because of ease of use, but more because the last
thing I want is something plugged in all the time to bang
around. Also, I have 2A usb chargers in the plane, and it
would be nice to be able to charge the iPad when you want to
and not have the dock port used.
Personally, I've given the iPad 1 over to the kids for basically
movie use in flight, so even though I have a Jailbroken iPad 1,
that works great with Bluetooth (I've used both Roqy-BT and
BTStack GPS and both work fine), I've decided to just use
the built-in iPad 2 GPS for the time being. Once I can jailbreak
it again, I'll probably still use the built-in, because it
works real well. If I had to actually rely on it for
something really really critical, I'd consider using the
Bluetooth in that situation. But I don't think I'll bother
with the others. If I had a non-3G version, I would use
the GNS, because it would be wire-free.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 4/12/2011 4:34 PM, Jesse Saint wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint<jesse@saintaviation.com>
>
> The way I use and handle my iPad, I would be afraid of breaking the Bad Elf.
I am jailbroken, so I use a Holux GPS that I put up on the glare shield and it
works extremely well. I wouldn't want something attached to the iPad, but that's
just me.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen<apilot2@gmail.com>
>>
>> The GNS after a certain serial number and the Bad Elf are both WAAS.
>> Depends on how you feel about wired/hard connection vs bluetooth where
>> GPS can be placed in most favorable window.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Marcus Cooper<coop85@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Marcus Cooper<coop85@verizon.net>
>>>
>>> Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought an
iPad 2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad reports
indicated an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have gone 3G,
but water under the bridge so the question now is to go with the Bad Elf or
the other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan was the non-plug-in
kind so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496 occasionally loses the
GPS signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and I suspected the iPad laying
on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have the same issue with the Bad
Elf.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Marcus
>>> 40286
>>>
>>> do not archive
>>> On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:21 AM, jkreidler wrote:
>>>
>>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jkreidler"<jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
>>>>
>>>> The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not have
to have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the pop up
that keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One little detail,
if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off. You want to turn
off wifi and cellular data separately, then the GPS still works.
>>>>
>>>> This is not to say that the built in GPS is great, I am sure the external
receivers are better. But we have been flying with only the internal GPS for
almost a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just fine.
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> Jason Kreidler
>>>> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
>>>> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
>>>> N44YH - Flying - #40617
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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Subject: | Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question |
Thanks for all the great responses as usual! I was leaning toward the GNS and
this pretty well seals the deal.
Thanks again,
Marcus
do not archive
On Apr 12, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> I'd agree with what Jesse said. My preference order
> would probably be something like:
>
> Jailbroken iPad with Bluetooth GPS (not available yet on iPad2)
> Built-in iPad2 GPS (Verizon)
> Built-in Ipad2 GPS (AT&T)
> GNS GPS
> Bad Elf GPS
>
> This isn't because of ease of use, but more because the last
> thing I want is something plugged in all the time to bang
> around. Also, I have 2A usb chargers in the plane, and it
> would be nice to be able to charge the iPad when you want to
> and not have the dock port used.
>
> Personally, I've given the iPad 1 over to the kids for basically
> movie use in flight, so even though I have a Jailbroken iPad 1,
> that works great with Bluetooth (I've used both Roqy-BT and
> BTStack GPS and both work fine), I've decided to just use
> the built-in iPad 2 GPS for the time being. Once I can jailbreak
> it again, I'll probably still use the built-in, because it
> works real well. If I had to actually rely on it for
> something really really critical, I'd consider using the
> Bluetooth in that situation. But I don't think I'll bother
> with the others. If I had a non-3G version, I would use
> the GNS, because it would be wire-free.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 4/12/2011 4:34 PM, Jesse Saint wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint<jesse@saintaviation.com>
>>
>> The way I use and handle my iPad, I would be afraid of breaking the Bad Elf.
I am jailbroken, so I use a Holux GPS that I put up on the glare shield and
it works extremely well. I wouldn't want something attached to the iPad, but
that's just me.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>> C: 352-427-0285
>> F: 815-377-3694
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen<apilot2@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> The GNS after a certain serial number and the Bad Elf are both WAAS.
>>> Depends on how you feel about wired/hard connection vs bluetooth where
>>> GPS can be placed in most favorable window.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Marcus Cooper<coop85@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Marcus Cooper<coop85@verizon.net>
>>>>
>>>> Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought an
iPad 2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad reports
indicated an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have gone 3G,
but water under the bridge so the question now is to go with the Bad Elf or
the other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan was the non-plug-in
kind so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496 occasionally loses
the GPS signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and I suspected the iPad laying
on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have the same issue with the Bad
Elf.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Marcus
>>>> 40286
>>>>
>>>> do not archive
>>>> On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:21 AM, jkreidler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jkreidler"<jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not have
to have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the pop up
that keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One little detail,
if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off. You want to
turn off wifi and cellular data separately, then the GPS still works.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not to say that the built in GPS is great, I am sure the external
receivers are better. But we have been flying with only the internal GPS for
almost a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------
>>>>> Jason Kreidler
>>>>> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
>>>>> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
>>>>> N44YH - Flying - #40617
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Subject: | Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question |
I believe the Bad Elf GPS has a pass through connector so the dock
port is still available, at least from the description I recall. But I
agree I wouldn't want an appendage there.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> I'd agree with what Jesse said. My preference order
> would probably be something like:
>
> Jailbroken iPad with Bluetooth GPS (not available yet on iPad2)
> Built-in iPad2 GPS (Verizon)
> Built-in Ipad2 GPS (AT&T)
> GNS GPS
> Bad Elf GPS
>
> This isn't because of ease of use, but more because the last
> thing I want is something plugged in all the time to bang
> around. Also, I have 2A usb chargers in the plane, and it
> would be nice to be able to charge the iPad when you want to
> and not have the dock port used.
>
> Personally, I've given the iPad 1 over to the kids for basically
> movie use in flight, so even though I have a Jailbroken iPad 1,
> that works great with Bluetooth (I've used both Roqy-BT and
> BTStack GPS and both work fine), I've decided to just use
> the built-in iPad 2 GPS for the time being. Once I can jailbreak
> it again, I'll probably still use the built-in, because it
> works real well. If I had to actually rely on it for
> something really really critical, I'd consider using the
> Bluetooth in that situation. But I don't think I'll bother
> with the others. If I had a non-3G version, I would use
> the GNS, because it would be wire-free.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 4/12/2011 4:34 PM, Jesse Saint wrote:
>>
>>
>> The way I use and handle my iPad, I would be afraid of breaking the Bad
>> Elf. I am jailbroken, so I use a Holux GPS that I put up on the glare
>> shield and it works extremely well. I wouldn't want something attached to
>> the iPad, but that's just me.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>> C: 352-427-0285
>> F: 815-377-3694
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The GNS after a certain serial number and the Bad Elf are both WAAS.
>>> Depends on how you feel about wired/hard connection vs bluetooth where
>>> GPS can be placed in most favorable window.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Marcus Cooper<coop85@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought
>>>> an iPad 2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad
>>>> reports indicated an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have
>>>> gone 3G, but water under the bridge so the question now is to go with the
>>>> Bad Elf or the other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan was
>>>> the non-plug-in kind so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496
>>>> occasionally loses the GPS signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and
I
>>>> suspected the iPad laying on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have the
>>>> same issue with the Bad Elf.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Marcus
>>>> 40286
>>>>
>>>> do not archive
>>>> On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:21 AM, jkreidler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "jkreidler"<jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not
>>>>> have to have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the
>>>>> pop up that keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One
>>>>> little detail, if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off.
>>>>> You want to turn off wifi and cellular data separately, then the GPS still
>>>>> works.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not to say that the built in GPS is great, I am sure the
>>>>> external receivers are better. But we have been flying with only the
>>>>> internal GPS for almost a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just
>>>>> fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------
>>>>> Jason Kreidler
>>>>> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
>>>>> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
>>>>> N44YH - Flying - #40617
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Subject: | Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question |
I thought it had a mini USB connector for power to itself & the iPad.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 12, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I believe the Bad Elf GPS has a pass through connector so the dock
> port is still available, at least from the description I recall. But I
> agree I wouldn't want an appendage there.
>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'd agree with what Jesse said. My preference order
>> would probably be something like:
>>
>> Jailbroken iPad with Bluetooth GPS (not available yet on iPad2)
>> Built-in iPad2 GPS (Verizon)
>> Built-in Ipad2 GPS (AT&T)
>> GNS GPS
>> Bad Elf GPS
>>
>> This isn't because of ease of use, but more because the last
>> thing I want is something plugged in all the time to bang
>> around. Also, I have 2A usb chargers in the plane, and it
>> would be nice to be able to charge the iPad when you want to
>> and not have the dock port used.
>>
>> Personally, I've given the iPad 1 over to the kids for basically
>> movie use in flight, so even though I have a Jailbroken iPad 1,
>> that works great with Bluetooth (I've used both Roqy-BT and
>> BTStack GPS and both work fine), I've decided to just use
>> the built-in iPad 2 GPS for the time being. Once I can jailbreak
>> it again, I'll probably still use the built-in, because it
>> works real well. If I had to actually rely on it for
>> something really really critical, I'd consider using the
>> Bluetooth in that situation. But I don't think I'll bother
>> with the others. If I had a non-3G version, I would use
>> the GNS, because it would be wire-free.
>>
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> On 4/12/2011 4:34 PM, Jesse Saint wrote:
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>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint<jesse@saintaviation.com>
>>>
>>> The way I use and handle my iPad, I would be afraid of breaking the Bad
>>> Elf. I am jailbroken, so I use a Holux GPS that I put up on the glare
>>> shield and it works extremely well. I wouldn't want something attached to
>>> the iPad, but that's just me.
>>>
>>> Jesse Saint
>>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>>> C: 352-427-0285
>>> F: 815-377-3694
>>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>>
>>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen<apilot2@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> The GNS after a certain serial number and the Bad Elf are both WAAS.
>>>> Depends on how you feel about wired/hard connection vs bluetooth where
>>>> GPS can be placed in most favorable window.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Marcus Cooper<coop85@verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Marcus Cooper<coop85@verizon.net>
>>>>>
>>>>> Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought
>>>>> an iPad 2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad
>>>>> reports indicated an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have
>>>>> gone 3G, but water under the bridge so the question now is to go with the
>>>>> Bad Elf or the other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan was
>>>>> the non-plug-in kind so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496
>>>>> occasionally loses the GPS signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and
I
>>>>> suspected the iPad laying on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have the
>>>>> same issue with the Bad Elf.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>> 40286
>>>>>
>>>>> do not archive
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:21 AM, jkreidler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> --> RV10-List message posted by:
>>>>>> "jkreidler"<jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not
>>>>>> have to have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore
the
>>>>>> pop up that keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One
>>>>>> little detail, if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off.
>>>>>> You want to turn off wifi and cellular data separately, then the GPS still
>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not to say that the built in GPS is great, I am sure the
>>>>>> external receivers are better. But we have been flying with only the
>>>>>> internal GPS for almost a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be
just
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------
>>>>>> Jason Kreidler
>>>>>> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
>>>>>> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
>>>>>> N44YH - Flying - #40617
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503
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