---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/12/11: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:00 AM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Marcus Cooper) 2. 11:20 AM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Danny Riggs) 3. 01:54 PM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Kelly McMullen) 4. 02:37 PM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Jesse Saint) 5. 03:24 PM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Tim Olson) 6. 05:35 PM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Marcus Cooper) 7. 05:58 PM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Kelly McMullen) 8. 06:14 PM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (Jesse Saint) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:00:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question From: Marcus Cooper Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought an iPad 2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad reports indicated an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have gone 3G, but water under the bridge so the question now is to go with the Bad Elf or the other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan was the non-plug-in kind so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496 occasionally loses the GPS signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and I suspected the iPad laying on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have the same issue with the Bad Elf. Any thoughts? Thanks, Marcus 40286 do not archive On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:21 AM, jkreidler wrote: > > The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not have to have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the pop up that keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One little detail, if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off. You want to turn off wifi and cellular data separately, then the GPS still works. > > This is not to say that the built in GPS is great, I am sure the external receivers are better. But we have been flying with only the internal GPS for almost a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just fine. > > -------- > Jason Kreidler > 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI > Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler > N44YH - Flying - #40617 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:20:38 AM PST US From: Danny Riggs Subject: RE: RV10-List: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question I rode from near Nashville to Tampa to Pensacola back to near BNA with the iPad and Bad Elf sitting in my lap last week. Never lost lock. Also works f rom the middle seat 27 rows back in B737s. Aisle seat it gets a bit sketchy .. > Subject: Re: RV10-List: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question > From: coop85@verizon.net > Date: Tue=2C 12 Apr 2011 13:55:47 -0400 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > > Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought an iPad 2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad r eports indicated an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have gone 3G=2C but water under the bridge so the question now is to go with th e Bad Elf or the other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan wa s the non-plug-in kind so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496 o ccasionally loses the GPS signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and I suspected the iPad laying on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have th e same issue with the Bad Elf. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks=2C > Marcus > 40286 > > do not archive > On Apr 10=2C 2011=2C at 7:21 AM=2C jkreidler wrote: > t.com> > > > > The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not h ave to have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the pop up that keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One l ittle detail=2C if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off. You want to turn off wifi and cellular data separately=2C then the GPS sti ll works. > > > > This is not to say that the built in GPS is great=2C I am sure the exte rnal receivers are better. But we have been flying with only the internal GPS for almost a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just fine. > > > > -------- > > Jason Kreidler > > 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls=2C WI > > Tony Kolar=2C Kyle Hokel=2C Wayne Elser=2C Jason Kreidler > > N44YH - Flying - #40617 > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:54:41 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question From: Kelly McMullen The GNS after a certain serial number and the Bad Elf are both WAAS. Depends on how you feel about wired/hard connection vs bluetooth where GPS can be placed in most favorable window. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Marcus Cooper wrote: > > Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought an iPad 2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad reports indicated an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have gone 3G, but water under the bridge so the question now is to go with the Bad Elf or the other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan was the non-plug-in kind so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496 occasionally loses the GPS signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and I suspected the iPad laying on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have the same issue with the Bad Elf. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > Marcus > 40286 > > do not archive > On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:21 AM, jkreidler wrote: > >> >> The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not have to have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the pop up that keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One little detail, if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off. You want to turn off wifi and cellular data separately, then the GPS still works. >> >> This is not to say that the built in GPS is great, I am sure the external receivers are better. But we have been flying with only the internal GPS for almost a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just fine. >> >> -------- >> Jason Kreidler >> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI >> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler >> N44YH - Flying - #40617 >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:37:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question From: Jesse Saint The way I use and handle my iPad, I would be afraid of breaking the Bad Elf. I am jailbroken, so I use a Holux GPS that I put up on the glare shield and it works extremely well. I wouldn't want something attached to the iPad, but that's just me. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > The GNS after a certain serial number and the Bad Elf are both WAAS. > Depends on how you feel about wired/hard connection vs bluetooth where > GPS can be placed in most favorable window. > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Marcus Cooper wrote: >> >> Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought an iPad 2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad reports indicated an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have gone 3G, but water under the bridge so the question now is to go with the Bad Elf or the other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan was the non-plug-in kind so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496 occasionally loses the GPS signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and I suspected the iPad laying on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have the same issue with the Bad Elf. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Thanks, >> Marcus >> 40286 >> >> do not archive >> On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:21 AM, jkreidler wrote: >> >>> >>> The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not have to have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the pop up that keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One little detail, if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off. You want to turn off wifi and cellular data separately, then the GPS still works. >>> >>> This is not to say that the built in GPS is great, I am sure the external receivers are better. But we have been flying with only the internal GPS for almost a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just fine. >>> >>> -------- >>> Jason Kreidler >>> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI >>> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler >>> N44YH - Flying - #40617 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:19 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question I'd agree with what Jesse said. My preference order would probably be something like: Jailbroken iPad with Bluetooth GPS (not available yet on iPad2) Built-in iPad2 GPS (Verizon) Built-in Ipad2 GPS (AT&T) GNS GPS Bad Elf GPS This isn't because of ease of use, but more because the last thing I want is something plugged in all the time to bang around. Also, I have 2A usb chargers in the plane, and it would be nice to be able to charge the iPad when you want to and not have the dock port used. Personally, I've given the iPad 1 over to the kids for basically movie use in flight, so even though I have a Jailbroken iPad 1, that works great with Bluetooth (I've used both Roqy-BT and BTStack GPS and both work fine), I've decided to just use the built-in iPad 2 GPS for the time being. Once I can jailbreak it again, I'll probably still use the built-in, because it works real well. If I had to actually rely on it for something really really critical, I'd consider using the Bluetooth in that situation. But I don't think I'll bother with the others. If I had a non-3G version, I would use the GNS, because it would be wire-free. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 4/12/2011 4:34 PM, Jesse Saint wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint > > The way I use and handle my iPad, I would be afraid of breaking the Bad Elf. I am jailbroken, so I use a Holux GPS that I put up on the glare shield and it works extremely well. I wouldn't want something attached to the iPad, but that's just me. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > C: 352-427-0285 > F: 815-377-3694 > > On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen >> >> The GNS after a certain serial number and the Bad Elf are both WAAS. >> Depends on how you feel about wired/hard connection vs bluetooth where >> GPS can be placed in most favorable window. >> >> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Marcus Cooper wrote: >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Marcus Cooper >>> >>> Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought an iPad 2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad reports indicated an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have gone 3G, but water under the bridge so the question now is to go with the Bad Elf or the other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan was the non-plug-in kind so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496 occasionally loses the GPS signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and I suspected the iPad laying on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have the same issue with the Bad Elf. >>> >>> Any thoughts? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Marcus >>> 40286 >>> >>> do not archive >>> On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:21 AM, jkreidler wrote: >>> >>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jkreidler" >>>> >>>> The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not have to have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the pop up that keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One little detail, if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off. You want to turn off wifi and cellular data separately, then the GPS still works. >>>> >>>> This is not to say that the built in GPS is great, I am sure the external receivers are better. But we have been flying with only the internal GPS for almost a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just fine. >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> Jason Kreidler >>>> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI >>>> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler >>>> N44YH - Flying - #40617 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:33 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question From: Marcus Cooper Thanks for all the great responses as usual! I was leaning toward the GNS and this pretty well seals the deal. Thanks again, Marcus do not archive On Apr 12, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > I'd agree with what Jesse said. My preference order > would probably be something like: > > Jailbroken iPad with Bluetooth GPS (not available yet on iPad2) > Built-in iPad2 GPS (Verizon) > Built-in Ipad2 GPS (AT&T) > GNS GPS > Bad Elf GPS > > This isn't because of ease of use, but more because the last > thing I want is something plugged in all the time to bang > around. Also, I have 2A usb chargers in the plane, and it > would be nice to be able to charge the iPad when you want to > and not have the dock port used. > > Personally, I've given the iPad 1 over to the kids for basically > movie use in flight, so even though I have a Jailbroken iPad 1, > that works great with Bluetooth (I've used both Roqy-BT and > BTStack GPS and both work fine), I've decided to just use > the built-in iPad 2 GPS for the time being. Once I can jailbreak > it again, I'll probably still use the built-in, because it > works real well. If I had to actually rely on it for > something really really critical, I'd consider using the > Bluetooth in that situation. But I don't think I'll bother > with the others. If I had a non-3G version, I would use > the GNS, because it would be wire-free. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > On 4/12/2011 4:34 PM, Jesse Saint wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint >> >> The way I use and handle my iPad, I would be afraid of breaking the Bad Elf. I am jailbroken, so I use a Holux GPS that I put up on the glare shield and it works extremely well. I wouldn't want something attached to the iPad, but that's just me. >> >> Jesse Saint >> Saint Aviation, Inc. >> jesse@saintaviation.com >> C: 352-427-0285 >> F: 815-377-3694 >> >> On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >> >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen >>> >>> The GNS after a certain serial number and the Bad Elf are both WAAS. >>> Depends on how you feel about wired/hard connection vs bluetooth where >>> GPS can be placed in most favorable window. >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Marcus Cooper wrote: >>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Marcus Cooper >>>> >>>> Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought an iPad 2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad reports indicated an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have gone 3G, but water under the bridge so the question now is to go with the Bad Elf or the other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan was the non-plug-in kind so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496 occasionally loses the GPS signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and I suspected the iPad laying on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have the same issue with the Bad Elf. >>>> >>>> Any thoughts? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Marcus >>>> 40286 >>>> >>>> do not archive >>>> On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:21 AM, jkreidler wrote: >>>> >>>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jkreidler" >>>>> >>>>> The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not have to have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the pop up that keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One little detail, if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off. You want to turn off wifi and cellular data separately, then the GPS still works. >>>>> >>>>> This is not to say that the built in GPS is great, I am sure the external receivers are better. But we have been flying with only the internal GPS for almost a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just fine. >>>>> >>>>> -------- >>>>> Jason Kreidler >>>>> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI >>>>> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler >>>>> N44YH - Flying - #40617 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Read this topic online here: >>>>> >>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:58:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question From: Kelly McMullen I believe the Bad Elf GPS has a pass through connector so the dock port is still available, at least from the description I recall. But I agree I wouldn't want an appendage there. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > I'd agree with what Jesse said. My preference order > would probably be something like: > > Jailbroken iPad with Bluetooth GPS (not available yet on iPad2) > Built-in iPad2 GPS (Verizon) > Built-in Ipad2 GPS (AT&T) > GNS GPS > Bad Elf GPS > > This isn't because of ease of use, but more because the last > thing I want is something plugged in all the time to bang > around. Also, I have 2A usb chargers in the plane, and it > would be nice to be able to charge the iPad when you want to > and not have the dock port used. > > Personally, I've given the iPad 1 over to the kids for basically > movie use in flight, so even though I have a Jailbroken iPad 1, > that works great with Bluetooth (I've used both Roqy-BT and > BTStack GPS and both work fine), I've decided to just use > the built-in iPad 2 GPS for the time being. Once I can jailbreak > it again, I'll probably still use the built-in, because it > works real well. If I had to actually rely on it for > something really really critical, I'd consider using the > Bluetooth in that situation. But I don't think I'll bother > with the others. If I had a non-3G version, I would use > the GNS, because it would be wire-free. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > On 4/12/2011 4:34 PM, Jesse Saint wrote: >> >> >> The way I use and handle my iPad, I would be afraid of breaking the Bad >> Elf. I am jailbroken, so I use a Holux GPS that I put up on the glare >> shield and it works extremely well. I wouldn't want something attached to >> the iPad, but that's just me. >> >> Jesse Saint >> Saint Aviation, Inc. >> jesse@saintaviation.com >> C: 352-427-0285 >> F: 815-377-3694 >> >> On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >> >>> >>> The GNS after a certain serial number and the Bad Elf are both WAAS. >>> Depends on how you feel about wired/hard connection vs bluetooth where >>> GPS can be placed in most favorable window. >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Marcus Cooper >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought >>>> an iPad 2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad >>>> reports indicated an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have >>>> gone 3G, but water under the bridge so the question now is to go with the >>>> Bad Elf or the other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan was >>>> the non-plug-in kind so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496 >>>> occasionally loses the GPS signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and I >>>> suspected the iPad laying on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have the >>>> same issue with the Bad Elf. >>>> >>>> Any thoughts? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Marcus >>>> 40286 >>>> >>>> do not archive >>>> On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:21 AM, jkreidler wrote: >>>> >>>>> "jkreidler" >>>>> >>>>> The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not >>>>> have to have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the >>>>> pop up that keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One >>>>> little detail, if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off. >>>>> You want to turn off wifi and cellular data separately, then the GPS still >>>>> works. >>>>> >>>>> This is not to say that the built in GPS is great, I am sure the >>>>> external receivers are better. But we have been flying with only the >>>>> internal GPS for almost a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just >>>>> fine. >>>>> >>>>> -------- >>>>> Jason Kreidler >>>>> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI >>>>> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler >>>>> N44YH - Flying - #40617 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Read this topic online here: >>>>> >>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:37 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question From: Jesse Saint I thought it had a mini USB connector for power to itself & the iPad. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org www.mavericklsa.com C: 352-427-0285 O: 352-465-4545 F: 815-377-3694 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 12, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > I believe the Bad Elf GPS has a pass through connector so the dock > port is still available, at least from the description I recall. But I > agree I wouldn't want an appendage there. > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >> >> I'd agree with what Jesse said. My preference order >> would probably be something like: >> >> Jailbroken iPad with Bluetooth GPS (not available yet on iPad2) >> Built-in iPad2 GPS (Verizon) >> Built-in Ipad2 GPS (AT&T) >> GNS GPS >> Bad Elf GPS >> >> This isn't because of ease of use, but more because the last >> thing I want is something plugged in all the time to bang >> around. Also, I have 2A usb chargers in the plane, and it >> would be nice to be able to charge the iPad when you want to >> and not have the dock port used. >> >> Personally, I've given the iPad 1 over to the kids for basically >> movie use in flight, so even though I have a Jailbroken iPad 1, >> that works great with Bluetooth (I've used both Roqy-BT and >> BTStack GPS and both work fine), I've decided to just use >> the built-in iPad 2 GPS for the time being. Once I can jailbreak >> it again, I'll probably still use the built-in, because it >> works real well. If I had to actually rely on it for >> something really really critical, I'd consider using the >> Bluetooth in that situation. But I don't think I'll bother >> with the others. If I had a non-3G version, I would use >> the GNS, because it would be wire-free. >> >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD >> do not archive >> >> >> On 4/12/2011 4:34 PM, Jesse Saint wrote: >>> >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint >>> >>> The way I use and handle my iPad, I would be afraid of breaking the Bad >>> Elf. I am jailbroken, so I use a Holux GPS that I put up on the glare >>> shield and it works extremely well. I wouldn't want something attached to >>> the iPad, but that's just me. >>> >>> Jesse Saint >>> Saint Aviation, Inc. >>> jesse@saintaviation.com >>> C: 352-427-0285 >>> F: 815-377-3694 >>> >>> On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >>> >>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen >>>> >>>> The GNS after a certain serial number and the Bad Elf are both WAAS. >>>> Depends on how you feel about wired/hard connection vs bluetooth where >>>> GPS can be placed in most favorable window. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Marcus Cooper >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Marcus Cooper >>>>> >>>>> Slightly different question for the external iPad GPS options. I bought >>>>> an iPad 2 but non-3G as I really didn't need the 3G and the previous iPad >>>>> reports indicated an external GPS would be better. Looks like I should have >>>>> gone 3G, but water under the bridge so the question now is to go with the >>>>> Bad Elf or the other approved model that links via Bluetooth? My plan was >>>>> the non-plug-in kind so I could set the GPS on the dash. My Garmin 496 >>>>> occasionally loses the GPS signal when I have it sitting on the tunnel and I >>>>> suspected the iPad laying on my lap or mounted on the tunnel would have the >>>>> same issue with the Bad Elf. >>>>> >>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Marcus >>>>> 40286 >>>>> >>>>> do not archive >>>>> On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:21 AM, jkreidler wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: >>>>>> "jkreidler" >>>>>> >>>>>> The internal GPS works fine for on road or in flight use. You do not >>>>>> have to have a data subscription to use the GPS you only have to ignore the >>>>>> pop up that keeps asking you if you want to add a data subscription. One >>>>>> little detail, if you turn on airplane mode the GPS also gets turned off. >>>>>> You want to turn off wifi and cellular data separately, then the GPS still >>>>>> works. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is not to say that the built in GPS is great, I am sure the >>>>>> external receivers are better. But we have been flying with only the >>>>>> internal GPS for almost a year now and find the accuracy and lock to be just >>>>>> fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> -------- >>>>>> Jason Kreidler >>>>>> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI >>>>>> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler >>>>>> N44YH - Flying - #40617 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Read this topic online here: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336503#336503 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.