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Sun 04/17/11


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 07:20 AM - FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows (Michael Kraus)
     2. 10:02 AM - Thunder over Louisville - Cold and windy but still good! (Jim Combs)
     3. 12:54 PM - Re: FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows (greghale)
     4. 01:43 PM - FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows (Michael Kraus)
     5. 01:59 PM - Re: Re: FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows (Kelly McMullen)
     6. 03:27 PM - "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) (Matt Dralle)
     7. 04:51 PM - Re: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) (gary)
     8. 05:31 PM - Re: Thunder over Louisville - Cold and windy but still good! (rv10flyer)
     9. 05:39 PM - Re: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) (DLM)
    10. 05:41 PM - Re: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) (DLM)
    11. 05:42 PM - Re: FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows (rv10flyer)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:20:11 AM PST US
    Subject: FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>


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    Time: 10:02:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Thunder over Louisville - Cold and windy but still good!
    From: Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com>
    Well at least two RV-10 owners made it to "Thunder over Louisville Air Show and Fireworks". Darned weather was the pits but still got to see some great flying and fireworks. F-22, C-17 and the Sea Stallion helo are amazing! The flight tribute with the P-51, F4 Phantom and the F-22 were sweet too. Heck it's all good! Always good to meet other RV-10 people! Jim Combs N312F - 220 Hours - Still unpainted - Soon!


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    Time: 12:54:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows
    From: "greghale" <ghale5224@aol.com>
    Don't know what your question was, but if you are thinking about using the Sikaflex system for bonding the windows, you can go to my web page link of how I replaced a windshield using this system. I can highly recommend it for windshield replacement http://www.nwacaptain.com/windshield.html It is very easy to clean up by using mineral spirits. Plenty of time to place and adjust the windshield position. Greg... -------- Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH www.nwacaptain.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337240#337240


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    Time: 01:43:04 PM PST US
    Subject: FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    I used this system to install my windows on my RV-10. New from Jamestown Dis trubters costs over $113 plus shipping. I have one new unopened tube of the 2 95 UV adhesive, and well over 1/2 can of the 209D primer and Aktivator. Prim er expires in August 2011, Aktivator in September 2011. This is enough to bo nd in a full set of RV-10 windows. $75 plus free shipping via FedEx Ground. -Mike Kraus Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone


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    Time: 01:59:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Wasn't there some concern whether Sikaflex provided as strong a bond as Weld-on? On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM, greghale <ghale5224@aol.com> wrote: > > Don't know what your question was, but if you are thinking about using the Sikaflex system for bonding the windows, you can go to my web page link of how I replaced a windshield using this system. I can highly recommend it for windshield replacement > > http://www.nwacaptain.com/windshield.html > > It is very easy to clean up by using mineral spirits. Plenty of time to place and adjust the windshield position. > > Greg... > > -------- > Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH > www.nwacaptain.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337240#337240 > >


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    Time: 03:27:27 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!)
    Dear Listers, At 170 hours on my RV-8 now, the Prop control had become increasing more difficult to move starting around 100 hours. The Mixture and Throttle have worked fine and continue to. All three controls use the standard "Green" control cables from Vans, typically a "CT-Qxx" part. A couple of weeks ago, I disassembled the Governor end of the assembly and made sure that there was no binding or issues on that end. I even lightly lubed up the various moving bits. Yesterday, the Prop control became so difficult to move that I had trouble cycling the prop during run up. I pulled the whole throttle quadrant installation apart today to have a look. I got the cable completely out of the airplane and there are NO outward signs of wear or abuse of *any kind*. But even with the cable completely out of the plane and nothing connected to either end, it is almost impossible to move the cable!! I have a new CT-Q67 cable assembly for my front-mounted governor installation and I'm going to install that next. But, I wanted to give everyone a heads up on these CT-Q controls. These things are built like they go on a Caterpillar Tractor, so I can't figure out why they would wear out like this. If one of these controls starts getting stiff and tight, its probably not going to get any better. Replace it before it becomes a safety issue! Not a big deal on the Prop control, but on a throttle or mixture it could be a serious concern. Best regards, Matt - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight!


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    Time: 04:51:17 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!)
    Many of these control cables have a plastic liner. If they are routed near a heat source they tend to melt internally and become difficult to move. That might be your issue, it was for me. Gary Specketer -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 5:24 PM Subject: RV10-List: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) Dear Listers, At 170 hours on my RV-8 now, the Prop control had become increasing more difficult to move starting around 100 hours. The Mixture and Throttle have worked fine and continue to. All three controls use the standard "Green" control cables from Vans, typically a "CT-Qxx" part. A couple of weeks ago, I disassembled the Governor end of the assembly and made sure that there was no binding or issues on that end. I even lightly lubed up the various moving bits. Yesterday, the Prop control became so difficult to move that I had trouble cycling the prop during run up. I pulled the whole throttle quadrant installation apart today to have a look. I got the cable completely out of the airplane and there are NO outward signs of wear or abuse of *any kind*. But even with the cable completely out of the plane and nothing connected to either end, it is almost impossible to move the cable!! I have a new CT-Q67 cable assembly for my front-mounted governor installation and I'm going to install that next. But, I wanted to give everyone a heads up on these CT-Q controls. These things are built like they go on a Caterpillar Tractor, so I can't figure out why they would wear out like this. If one of these controls starts getting stiff and tight, its probably not going to get any better. Replace it before it becomes a safety issue! Not a big deal on the Prop control, but on a throttle or mixture it could be a serious concern. Best regards, Matt - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight!


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    Time: 05:31:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Thunder over Louisville - Cold and windy but still good!
    From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie@yahoo.com>
    Glad you enjoyed the show. I am looking forward to joining you guys this fall. Finished cabin cover finally! Pin hole/filler epoxy coat curing now. Working on some panel/wiring before installing on gear. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&amp;P 5/93, PPC 10/08 Bldr# 40983 SB Started 12/1/09. Fuselage Sec 45 Doors/Transparencies- 1228 hrs to date. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337282#337282


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    Time: 05:39:25 PM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com>
    Subject: Re: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!)
    Contact John in purchasing at Vans; I had the same problem (at 400 TT) with quadrant prop and mixture; He acknowledged that these are made from Cablecraft Tuthill parts by an Oregon company and should last to TBO. It was a PITA changing these with the engine on the airframe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> <rv12-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 3:23 PM Subject: RV10-List: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) > > Dear Listers, > > At 170 hours on my RV-8 now, the Prop control had become increasing more > difficult to move starting around 100 hours. The Mixture and Throttle > have worked fine and continue to. All three controls use the standard > "Green" control cables from Vans, typically a "CT-Qxx" part. > > A couple of weeks ago, I disassembled the Governor end of the assembly and > made sure that there was no binding or issues on that end. I even lightly > lubed up the various moving bits. Yesterday, the Prop control became so > difficult to move that I had trouble cycling the prop during run up. I > pulled the whole throttle quadrant installation apart today to have a > look. I got the cable completely out of the airplane and there are NO > outward signs of wear or abuse of *any kind*. But even with the cable > completely out of the plane and nothing connected to either end, it is > almost impossible to move the cable!! I have a new CT-Q67 cable assembly > for my front-mounted governor installation and I'm going to install that > next. > > But, I wanted to give everyone a heads up on these CT-Q controls. These > things are built like they go on a Caterpillar Tractor, so I can't figure > out why they would wear out like this. > > If one of these controls starts getting stiff and tight, its probably not > going to get any better. Replace it before it becomes a safety issue! > Not a big deal on the Prop control, but on a throttle or mixture it could > be a serious concern. > > Best regards, > > Matt > > - > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: 170+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight! > > >


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    Time: 05:41:23 PM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com>
    Subject: Re: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!)
    Routing of my cables was per Vans specifications and they were protected by additional external heat sleeves ----- Original Message ----- From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:47 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) > > Many of these control cables have a plastic liner. If they are routed > near > a heat source they tend to melt internally and become difficult to move. > That might be your issue, it was for me. > > Gary Specketer > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 5:24 PM > To: rv9-list@matronics.com; rv10-list@matronics.com; > rv12-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) > > > Dear Listers, > > At 170 hours on my RV-8 now, the Prop control had become increasing more > difficult to move starting around 100 hours. The Mixture and Throttle > have > worked fine and continue to. All three controls use the standard "Green" > control cables from Vans, typically a "CT-Qxx" part. > > A couple of weeks ago, I disassembled the Governor end of the assembly and > made sure that there was no binding or issues on that end. I even lightly > lubed up the various moving bits. Yesterday, the Prop control became so > difficult to move that I had trouble cycling the prop during run up. I > pulled the whole throttle quadrant installation apart today to have a > look. > I got the cable completely out of the airplane and there are NO outward > signs of wear or abuse of *any kind*. But even with the cable completely > out of the plane and nothing connected to either end, it is almost > impossible to move the cable!! I have a new CT-Q67 cable assembly for my > front-mounted governor installation and I'm going to install that next. > > But, I wanted to give everyone a heads up on these CT-Q controls. These > things are built like they go on a Caterpillar Tractor, so I can't figure > out why they would wear out like this. > > If one of these controls starts getting stiff and tight, its probably not > going to get any better. Replace it before it becomes a safety issue! > Not > a big deal on the Prop control, but on a throttle or mixture it could be a > serious concern. > > Best regards, > > Matt > > - > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: 170+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight! > > >


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    Time: 05:42:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows
    From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie@yahoo.com>
    I also have a partial tube of Weld-On 45 and some mixing tubes an RV-10 builder can have for shipping along with borrowing the gun. I want the $102 gun back when finished. Bond strength is 2000 vs 2200 psi for Weld On 10 and the viscosity makes it much easier to fill gaps and almost no runs/clean up afterwards. I don't believe the 200 psi difference will cause me any problems. I tested plexiglass/aluminum/fiberglass samples and it holds better than West epoxy on all three. You need two 13.5 oz cartridges(approx $35/ea) and you will have a least 1/2 tube leftover. Costs are just slightly more than Weld On 10 since you don't have to buy the gun. Get your cartridges/mixing tubes from The Engineer Guy in Atlanta. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&amp;P 5/93, PPC 10/08 Bldr# 40983 SB Started 12/1/09. Fuselage Sec 45 Doors/Transparencies- 1228 hrs to date. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337287#337287




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