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     1. 07:20 AM - FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows (Michael Kraus)
     2. 10:02 AM - Thunder over Louisville - Cold and windy but still good! (Jim Combs)
     3. 12:54 PM - Re: FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows (greghale)
     4. 01:43 PM - FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows (Michael Kraus)
     5. 01:59 PM - Re: Re: FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows (Kelly McMullen)
     6. 03:27 PM - "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) (Matt Dralle)
     7. 04:51 PM - Re: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) (gary)
     8. 05:31 PM - Re: Thunder over Louisville - Cold and windy but still good! (rv10flyer)
     9. 05:39 PM - Re: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) (DLM)
    10. 05:41 PM - Re: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) (DLM)
    11. 05:42 PM - Re: FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows (rv10flyer)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows | 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Thunder over Louisville - Cold and windy but still good! | 
      
      Well at least two RV-10 owners made it to "Thunder over Louisville Air Show
      and Fireworks".  Darned weather was the pits but still got to see some great
      flying and fireworks.  F-22, C-17 and the Sea Stallion helo are amazing!
      The flight tribute with the P-51, F4 Phantom and the F-22 were sweet too.
      Heck it's all good!
      
      Always good to meet other RV-10 people!
      
      Jim Combs
      
      N312F - 220 Hours - Still unpainted - Soon!
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows | 
      
      
      Don't know what your question was, but if you are thinking about using the Sikaflex
      system for bonding the windows, you can go to my web page link of how I replaced
      a windshield using this system.  I can highly recommend it for windshield
      replacement
      
      http://www.nwacaptain.com/windshield.html
      
      It is very easy to clean up by using mineral spirits.  Plenty of time to place
      and adjust the windshield position.
      
      Greg...
      
      --------
      Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
      www.nwacaptain.com
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337240#337240
      
      
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| Subject:  | FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows | 
      
      I used this system to install my windows on my RV-10. New from Jamestown Dis
      trubters costs over $113 plus shipping. I have one new unopened tube of the 2
      95 UV adhesive, and well over 1/2 can of the 209D primer and Aktivator. Prim
      er expires in August 2011, Aktivator in September 2011. This is enough to bo
      nd in a full set of RV-10 windows.
      
      $75 plus free shipping via FedEx Ground.
      
      -Mike Kraus
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows | 
      
      
      Wasn't there some concern whether Sikaflex provided as strong a bond as
      Weld-on?
      
      On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM, greghale <ghale5224@aol.com> wrote:
      >
      > Don't know what your question was, but if you are thinking about using the Sikaflex
      system for bonding the windows, you can go to my web page link of how I
      replaced a windshield using this system. I can highly recommend it for windshield
      replacement
      >
      > http://www.nwacaptain.com/windshield.html
      >
      > It is very easy to clean up by using mineral spirits. Plenty of time to place
      and adjust the windshield position.
      >
      > Greg...
      >
      > --------
      > Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
      > www.nwacaptain.com
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337240#337240
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) | 
      
      
      Dear Listers,
      
      At 170 hours on my RV-8 now, the Prop control had become increasing more difficult
      to move starting around 100 hours.  The Mixture and Throttle have worked fine
      and continue to.  All three controls use the standard "Green" control cables
      from Vans, typically a "CT-Qxx" part.
      
      A couple of weeks ago, I disassembled the Governor end of the assembly and made
      sure that there was no binding or issues on that end.  I even lightly lubed up
      the various moving bits.  Yesterday, the Prop control became so difficult to
      move that I had trouble cycling the prop during run up.  I pulled the whole throttle
      quadrant installation apart today to have a look.  I got the cable completely
      out of the airplane and there are NO outward signs of wear or abuse of
      *any kind*.  But even with the cable completely out of the plane and nothing
      connected to either end, it is almost impossible to move the cable!!  I have a
      new CT-Q67 cable assembly for my front-mounted governor installation and I'm
      going to install that next. 
      
      But, I wanted to give everyone a heads up on these CT-Q controls.  These things
      are built like they go on a Caterpillar Tractor, so I can't figure out why they
      would wear out like this.  
      
      If one of these controls starts getting stiff and tight, its probably not going
      to get any better.  Replace it before it becomes a safety issue!  Not a big deal
      on the Prop control, but on a throttle or mixture it could be a serious concern.
      
      Best regards,
      
      Matt
      
      -
      Matt Dralle
      RV-8 #82880 N998RV
      http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
      http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
      Status: 170+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight!
      
      
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| Subject:  | "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) | 
      
      
      Many of these control cables have a plastic liner.  If they are routed near
      a heat source they tend to melt internally and become difficult to move.
      That might be your issue, it was for me.
      
      Gary Specketer
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
      Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 5:24 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!)
      
      
      Dear Listers,
      
      At 170 hours on my RV-8 now, the Prop control had become increasing more
      difficult to move starting around 100 hours.  The Mixture and Throttle have
      worked fine and continue to.  All three controls use the standard "Green"
      control cables from Vans, typically a "CT-Qxx" part.
      
      A couple of weeks ago, I disassembled the Governor end of the assembly and
      made sure that there was no binding or issues on that end.  I even lightly
      lubed up the various moving bits.  Yesterday, the Prop control became so
      difficult to move that I had trouble cycling the prop during run up.  I
      pulled the whole throttle quadrant installation apart today to have a look.
      I got the cable completely out of the airplane and there are NO outward
      signs of wear or abuse of *any kind*.  But even with the cable completely
      out of the plane and nothing connected to either end, it is almost
      impossible to move the cable!!  I have a new CT-Q67 cable assembly for my
      front-mounted governor installation and I'm going to install that next. 
      
      But, I wanted to give everyone a heads up on these CT-Q controls.  These
      things are built like they go on a Caterpillar Tractor, so I can't figure
      out why they would wear out like this.  
      
      If one of these controls starts getting stiff and tight, its probably not
      going to get any better.  Replace it before it becomes a safety issue!  Not
      a big deal on the Prop control, but on a throttle or mixture it could be a
      serious concern.
      
      Best regards,
      
      Matt
      
      -
      Matt Dralle
      RV-8 #82880 N998RV
      http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
      http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
      Status: 170+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight!
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Thunder over Louisville - Cold and windy but still good! | 
      
      
      Glad you enjoyed the show. I am looking forward to joining you guys this fall.
      Finished cabin cover finally! Pin hole/filler epoxy coat curing now. Working on
      some panel/wiring before installing on gear.
      
      --------
      Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
      Bldr# 40983 SB Started 12/1/09.
      Fuselage Sec 45 Doors/Transparencies- 1228 hrs to date.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337282#337282
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) | 
      
      
      Contact John in purchasing at Vans; I had the same problem (at 400 TT) with 
      quadrant prop and mixture; He acknowledged that these are made from 
      Cablecraft Tuthill parts by an Oregon company and should last to TBO. It was 
      a PITA changing these with the engine on the airframe.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
      <rv12-list@matronics.com>
      Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 3:23 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!)
      
      
      >
      > Dear Listers,
      >
      > At 170 hours on my RV-8 now, the Prop control had become increasing more 
      > difficult to move starting around 100 hours.  The Mixture and Throttle 
      > have worked fine and continue to.  All three controls use the standard 
      > "Green" control cables from Vans, typically a "CT-Qxx" part.
      >
      > A couple of weeks ago, I disassembled the Governor end of the assembly and 
      > made sure that there was no binding or issues on that end.  I even lightly 
      > lubed up the various moving bits.  Yesterday, the Prop control became so 
      > difficult to move that I had trouble cycling the prop during run up.  I 
      > pulled the whole throttle quadrant installation apart today to have a 
      > look.  I got the cable completely out of the airplane and there are NO 
      > outward signs of wear or abuse of *any kind*.  But even with the cable 
      > completely out of the plane and nothing connected to either end, it is 
      > almost impossible to move the cable!!  I have a new CT-Q67 cable assembly 
      > for my front-mounted governor installation and I'm going to install that 
      > next.
      >
      > But, I wanted to give everyone a heads up on these CT-Q controls.  These 
      > things are built like they go on a Caterpillar Tractor, so I can't figure 
      > out why they would wear out like this.
      >
      > If one of these controls starts getting stiff and tight, its probably not 
      > going to get any better.  Replace it before it becomes a safety issue! 
      > Not a big deal on the Prop control, but on a throttle or mixture it could 
      > be a serious concern.
      >
      > Best regards,
      >
      > Matt
      >
      > -
      > Matt Dralle
      > RV-8 #82880 N998RV
      > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
      > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
      > Status: 170+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight!
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) | 
      
      
      Routing of my cables was per Vans specifications and they were protected by 
      additional external heat sleeves
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
      Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:47 PM
      Subject: RE: RV10-List: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!)
      
      
      >
      > Many of these control cables have a plastic liner.  If they are routed 
      > near
      > a heat source they tend to melt internally and become difficult to move.
      > That might be your issue, it was for me.
      >
      > Gary Specketer
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
      > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 5:24 PM
      > To: rv9-list@matronics.com; rv10-list@matronics.com; 
      > rv12-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RV10-List: "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!)
      >
      >
      > Dear Listers,
      >
      > At 170 hours on my RV-8 now, the Prop control had become increasing more
      > difficult to move starting around 100 hours.  The Mixture and Throttle 
      > have
      > worked fine and continue to.  All three controls use the standard "Green"
      > control cables from Vans, typically a "CT-Qxx" part.
      >
      > A couple of weeks ago, I disassembled the Governor end of the assembly and
      > made sure that there was no binding or issues on that end.  I even lightly
      > lubed up the various moving bits.  Yesterday, the Prop control became so
      > difficult to move that I had trouble cycling the prop during run up.  I
      > pulled the whole throttle quadrant installation apart today to have a 
      > look.
      > I got the cable completely out of the airplane and there are NO outward
      > signs of wear or abuse of *any kind*.  But even with the cable completely
      > out of the plane and nothing connected to either end, it is almost
      > impossible to move the cable!!  I have a new CT-Q67 cable assembly for my
      > front-mounted governor installation and I'm going to install that next.
      >
      > But, I wanted to give everyone a heads up on these CT-Q controls.  These
      > things are built like they go on a Caterpillar Tractor, so I can't figure
      > out why they would wear out like this.
      >
      > If one of these controls starts getting stiff and tight, its probably not
      > going to get any better.  Replace it before it becomes a safety issue! 
      > Not
      > a big deal on the Prop control, but on a throttle or mixture it could be a
      > serious concern.
      >
      > Best regards,
      >
      > Matt
      >
      > -
      > Matt Dralle
      > RV-8 #82880 N998RV
      > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
      > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
      > Status: 170+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight!
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FS: Sikaflex 295UV system for bonding RV-10 windows | 
      
      
      I also have a partial tube of Weld-On 45 and some mixing tubes an RV-10 builder
      can have for shipping along with borrowing the gun. I want the $102 gun back
      when finished. Bond strength is 2000 vs 2200 psi for Weld On 10 and the viscosity
      makes it much easier to fill gaps and almost no runs/clean up afterwards.
      I don't believe the 200 psi difference will cause me any problems. I tested plexiglass/aluminum/fiberglass
      samples and it holds better than West epoxy on all
      three. You need two 13.5 oz cartridges(approx $35/ea) and you will have a least
      1/2 tube leftover. Costs are just slightly more than Weld On 10 since you
      don't have to buy the gun. Get your cartridges/mixing tubes from The Engineer
      Guy in Atlanta.
      
      --------
      Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
      Bldr# 40983 SB Started 12/1/09.
      Fuselage Sec 45 Doors/Transparencies- 1228 hrs to date.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337287#337287
      
      
 
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