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1. 01:18 PM - Re: Bose X headset for sale (Ron B.)
2. 06:52 PM - Control surface balancing (Lew Gallagher)
3. 06:54 PM - APRS Antenna (Rene)
4. 07:20 PM - Re: Control surface balancing (Carl Froehlich)
5. 07:40 PM - Re: Control surface balancing (Chris)
6. 09:34 PM - Re: APRS Antenna (DLM)
7. 10:33 PM - Re: Control surface balancing (John Gonzalez)
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| Subject: | Re: Bose X headset for sale |
Rob
I noticed I had my old e-mail listed on here. I've updated it on here, so give
it a try.
Ron
P.S. I contacted my friend (airplane partner) Allister, and he's looking for payment
options. He's doing the deal!
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| Subject: | Control surface balancing |
Hey guys,
This comes under the category of things I still need to learn. I was listening
to a discussion at the hangar the other day about what a huge "no-no" it was
when a certified plane got sent off for a paint job and came back with paint on
the connections of the control surfaces. The conclusion was that the control
surfaces had not been removed after painting to be rebalanced ... big stink
with FAA involvement.
I think I vaguely remember someone mentioning here about balancing control surfaces,
but I've never run across any instructions in the RV-10 build process about
what the specs might be and how to balance. Not knowing anything different,
I just painted everything in pieces on Wes's plane before final assembly,
put it together, and no problems, he says it flies beautifully.
Now I'm concerned. Any info out there?
Thanks, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Fly off completed !
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For those of you using APRS: What antenna are you using and where did you
mount it.
Rene'
N423CF
801-721-6080
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| Subject: | Control surface balancing |
I had the same issue. Building my 8A I carefully trimmed the elevator
weights to get exact balance, then found I needed to add some additional
lead after paint to rebalance the elevators (the vast majority of the paint
is aft of the hinge line). Building the 10 I noted the elevators are way
trailing edge heavy using the weights in the kit. I sent a note to Van's
about this and the reply was along the line of 'that is correct, that is how
it is supposed to be'.
Bottom line, the elevators are nowhere near balance, paint or no paint.
Carl
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lew Gallagher
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:50 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Control surface balancing
Hey guys,
This comes under the category of things I still need to learn. I was
listening to a discussion at the hangar the other day about what a huge
"no-no" it was when a certified plane got sent off for a paint job and came
back with paint on the connections of the control surfaces. The conclusion
was that the control surfaces had not been removed after painting to be
rebalanced ... big stink with FAA involvement.
I think I vaguely remember someone mentioning here about balancing control
surfaces, but I've never run across any instructions in the RV-10 build
process about what the specs might be and how to balance. Not knowing
anything different, I just painted everything in pieces on Wes's plane
before final assembly, put it together, and no problems, he says it flies
beautifully.
Now I'm concerned. Any info out there?
Thanks, - Lew
--------
non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Fly off completed !
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337758#337758
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| Subject: | Control surface balancing |
>From VANS, Scott R:
Chris, Balance limits are a 'maximum' so if your measurements fall anywhere
between zero and the limit, you're good. We've done extensive GVT (ground
vibration testing) and flight testing on the RV-10. The intent is to be
able to trim the weights according to the plans (if called out), bolt them
in and be well within the limits. We put the balance limits in the flight
test section because some builders alter the control surfaces during
construction...additional or different trim mechanisms, skin thicknesses
etc.
If your control surfaces are built according to the plans and your paint job
is not 'extreme', you should easily fall within the limits.
If you chose to check the balance, (excluding the rudder) you can just
disconnect the specific control surface from any control linkage (weight
elevators separately), get it in the level flight attitude and put a scale
under the trailing edge. The rudder would have to be removed, of course to
do this.
scott at van's
-Chris
#40072 (out of paint)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lew Gallagher
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:50 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Control surface balancing
Hey guys,
This comes under the category of things I still need to learn. I was
listening to a discussion at the hangar the other day about what a huge
"no-no" it was when a certified plane got sent off for a paint job and came
back with paint on the connections of the control surfaces. The conclusion
was that the control surfaces had not been removed after painting to be
rebalanced ... big stink with FAA involvement.
I think I vaguely remember someone mentioning here about balancing control
surfaces, but I've never run across any instructions in the RV-10 build
process about what the specs might be and how to balance. Not knowing
anything different, I just painted everything in pieces on Wes's plane
before final assembly, put it together, and no problems, he says it flies
beautifully.
Now I'm concerned. Any info out there?
Thanks, - Lew
--------
non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Fly off completed !
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337758#337758
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| Subject: | Re: APRS Antenna |
a stubby inside the tail fairing.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rene" <rene@felker.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: RV10-List: APRS Antenna
>
> For those of you using APRS: What antenna are you using and where did you
> mount it.
>
> Rene'
> N423CF
> 801-721-6080
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Control surface balancing |
Excellent=2C thank you for sharing the information!
> From: toaster73@embarqmail.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Control surface balancing
> Date: Thu=2C 21 Apr 2011 22:37:28 -0400
>
>
> >From VANS=2C Scott R:
>
> Chris=2C Balance limits are a 'maximum' so if your measurements fall any
where
> between zero and the limit=2C you're good. We've done extensive GVT (gro
und
> vibration testing) and flight testing on the RV-10. The intent is to be
> able to trim the weights according to the plans (if called out)=2C bolt t
hem
> in and be well within the limits. We put the balance limits in the fligh
t
> test section because some builders alter the control surfaces during
> construction...additional or different trim mechanisms=2C skin thicknesse
s
> etc.
>
> If your control surfaces are built according to the plans and your paint
job
> is not 'extreme'=2C you should easily fall within the limits.
>
> If you chose to check the balance=2C (excluding the rudder) you can just
> disconnect the specific control surface from any control linkage (weight
> elevators separately)=2C get it in the level flight attitude and put a sc
ale
> under the trailing edge. The rudder would have to be removed=2C of cours
e to
> do this.
>
> scott at van's
>
> -Chris
> #40072 (out of paint)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lew Gallagher
> Sent: Thursday=2C April 21=2C 2011 9:50 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Control surface balancing
>
>
> Hey guys=2C
>
> This comes under the category of things I still need to learn. I was
> listening to a discussion at the hangar the other day about what a huge
> "no-no" it was when a certified plane got sent off for a paint job and ca
me
> back with paint on the connections of the control surfaces. The conclusi
on
> was that the control surfaces had not been removed after painting to be
> rebalanced ... big stink with FAA involvement.
>
> I think I vaguely remember someone mentioning here about balancing contro
l
> surfaces=2C but I've never run across any instructions in the RV-10 buil
d
> process about what the specs might be and how to balance. Not knowing
> anything different=2C I just painted everything in pieces on Wes's plane
> before final assembly=2C put it together=2C and no problems=2C he says it
flies
> beautifully.
>
> Now I'm concerned. Any info out there?
>
> Thanks=2C - Lew
>
> --------
> non-pilot
> crazy about building
> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> Fly off completed !
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337758#337758
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