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1. 06:29 AM - Re: Control surface balancing (Lew Gallagher)
2. 06:54 AM - Re: APRS Antenna (Tim Olson)
3. 08:53 AM - runwayfinder (Ben Westfall)
4. 09:10 AM - Re: runwayfinder (Tim Olson)
5. 09:57 AM - Re: Control surface balancing (Rob Kochman)
6. 10:00 AM - Re: runwayfinder (Albert Gardner)
7. 10:00 AM - Airguide's new Flight Guide (Albert Gardner)
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| Subject: | Re: Control surface balancing |
Ahhh, it's in the TEST section! Thanks, I'll check it out.
More reason to know -- I'm closing in on experimenting with Linn's idea of using
a microcontoller and high torque model airplane servos IN the aileron and rudder
for trim. That would definitely change the balance, so I will find the axis
of rotation, mount a counterbalance, etc. but I need that reference first.
Later, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Fly off completed !
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337793#337793
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| Subject: | Re: APRS Antenna |
I used a Comant COM antenna, with the guts removed, and trimmed to the
proper length. You probably can't beat a belly whip for performance.
But, there is a great j-pole made by Pete Howell in Minnesota
that you can use that if you're not using metallic paint in the
wingtips, is very easy to put into a wingtip and performs great
too.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 4/21/2011 8:52 PM, Rene wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene"<rene@felker.com>
>
> For those of you using APRS: What antenna are you using and where did you
> mount it.
>
> Rene'
> N423CF
> 801-721-6080
>
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I'm probably the last to know but it appears runwayfinder agreed to a
flightprep license and is back in operation. Flightprep's actions really
pisses me off.
I worked for a software/web company a while back that ended up settling a
patent lawsuit filed against it for $2M. The money was paid out of the
proceeds from the sale of the company. The suing company did not make any
money they just covered their costs. The lawyers combined from both sides
netted somewhere between $3-4M in roughly a 2 year process. The patent
clearly did not apply using the laws of common sense (and probably would not
have held up in continuing the trial) but in the end was cheaper to settle
than continue to fight it.
I hope that flight-un-prep withers and dies
Ben Westfall
PDX
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| Subject: | Re: runwayfinder |
I saw that when it happened. I thought too that it's unfortunate
that yet another person got the matter settled WITHOUT
winning a lawsuit, so now it can continue, and of course
without anyone knowing the details. Personally, I hope that
FlightPrep still got enough bad press that they just
dissolve. There are plenty of iPad and other EFB vendors
out there...it will be nice to see FlightPrep just
disappear as punishment. We don't need those types in our
hobby.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 4/22/2011 10:48 AM, Ben Westfall wrote:
> Im probably the last to know but it appears runwayfinder agreed to a
> flightprep license and is back in operation. Flightpreps actions really
> pisses me off.
>
> I worked for a software/web company a while back that ended up settling
> a patent lawsuit filed against it for $2M. The money was paid out of the
> proceeds from the sale of the company. The suing company did not make
> any money they just covered their costs. The lawyers combined from both
> sides netted somewhere between $3-4M in roughly a 2 year process. The
> patent clearly did not apply using the laws of common sense (and
> probably would not have held up in continuing the trial) but in the end
> was cheaper to settle than continue to fight it.
>
> I hope that flight-un-prep withers and dies
>
> Ben Westfall
>
> PDX
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Control surface balancing |
FWIW, someone at Van's told me to just bolt the counterweights on as-is and
don't worry about it.
The tail-heavy limits for elevator balance listed in the flight test doc
seem really generous. I don't have paint yet, but even with paint, I'd be
surprised if I got near the limit.
-Rob
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:28 PM, John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>wrote:
> Excellent, thank you for sharing the information!
>
> > From: toaster73@embarqmail.com
>
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Control surface balancing
> > Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 22:37:28 -0400
>
> >
> >
> > >From VANS, Scott R:
> >
> > Chris, Balance limits are a 'maximum' so if your measurements fall
> anywhere
> > between zero and the limit, you're good. We've done extensive GVT (ground
> > vibration testing) and flight testing on the RV-10. The intent is to be
> > able to trim the weights according to the plans (if called out), bolt
> them
> > in and be well within the limits. We put the balance limits in the flight
> > test section because some builders alter the control surfaces during
> > construction...additional or different trim mechanisms, skin thicknesses
> > etc.
> >
> > If your control surfaces are built according to the plans and your paint
> job
> > is not 'extreme', you should easily fall within the limits.
> >
> > If you chose to check the balance, (excluding the rudder) you can just
> > disconnect the specific control surface from any control linkage (weight
> > elevators separately), get it in the level flight attitude and put a
> scale
> > under the trailing edge. The rudder would have to be removed, of course
> to
> > do this.
> >
> > scott at van's
> >
> > -Chris
> > #40072 (out of paint)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lew Gallagher
> > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:50 PM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV10-List: Control surface balancing
> >
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > This comes under the category of things I still need to learn. I was
> > listening to a discussion at the hangar the other day about what a huge
> > "no-no" it was when a certified plane got sent off for a paint job and
> came
> > back with paint on the connections of the control surfaces. The
> conclusion
> > was that the control surfaces had not been removed after painting to be
> > rebalanced ... big stink with FAA involvement.
> >
> > I think I vaguely remember someone mentioning here about balancing
> control
> > surfaces, but I've never run across any instructions in the RV-10 build
> > process about what the specs might be and how to balance. Not knowing
> > anything different, I just painted everything in pieces on Wes's plane
> > before final assembly, put it together, and no problems, he says it flies
> > beautifully.
> >
> > Now I'm concerned. Any info out there?
> >
> > Thanks, - Lew
> >
> > --------
> > non-pilot
> > crazy about building
> > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> > Fly off completed !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337758#337758
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> &============
> >
> >
> >
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying, Phase 1
http://kochman.net/N819K
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You know of course, that you are funneling money to these guys when you buy
products from ASA (Aviation Supplies & Academics, Inc), ASA publishes many
aviation books like the FAR/AIM 2010 on my bookshelf. Now I look for the
winged asa logo on anything I buy.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: runwayfinder
I saw that when it happened. I thought too that it's unfortunate
that yet another person got the matter settled WITHOUT
winning a lawsuit, so now it can continue, and of course
without anyone knowing the details. Personally, I hope that
FlightPrep still got enough bad press that they just
dissolve. There are plenty of iPad and other EFB vendors
out there...it will be nice to see FlightPrep just
disappear as punishment. We don't need those types in our
hobby.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
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| Subject: | Airguide's new Flight Guide |
I have recently received the new format flight Guide. While I like the
inclusion of more material I don't like the larger size and increasing
coverage of the US from 3 smaller volumes to 6 larger ones. I ordered mine
in the punched binder format so that I can remove states and pages I don't
need on long cross country flights. My smaller format fit well in my glove
box but the larger format won't. (My friend put a small piece of Velcro on
the back of his small volume so it would stick to his carpet on the tunnel.)
I guess I'll get used to it but I'm old fashioned - change is bad.
(Electronic ignition, GPS, XM weather, moving map wasn't change, just
"improvements".)
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
(Is there an iPad in my future?)
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