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1. 09:05 AM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (BrettAtBadElf)
2. 09:13 AM - leading edge (Rick Lark)
3. 09:28 AM - Re: leading edge (Robin Marks)
4. 09:52 AM - Re: leading edge (Jack Phillips)
5. 10:49 AM - Re: leading edge (tsts4)
6. 11:52 AM - Re: leading edge (Patrick Thyssen)
7. 11:59 AM - Re: leading edge (John Cox)
8. 12:43 PM - Re: leading edge (Rick Lark)
9. 05:51 PM - Re: leading edge (Larry Rosen)
10. 06:41 PM - Re: leading edge (Tim Olson)
11. 07:10 PM - Re: leading edge (Bob Turner)
12. 07:27 PM - Re: leading edge (Rick Lark)
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Subject: | Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question |
Kelly McMullen wrote:
> I believe the Bad Elf GPS has a pass through connector so the dock
> port is still available, at least from the description I recall. But I
> agree I wouldn't want an appendage there.
>
The Bad Elf GPS does have a pass-thru micro-USB port for charging the iPad during
use.
We know there are pros and cons for the dongle form-factor, the big downsides being
antenna placement and having something hang off the iPad. I've been flying
with it for over a year and neither IMHO are major issues. The upsides are
true plug and play operation, zero configuration, and no batteries to keep charged.
Not to mention that some pilots just don't like (or aren't allowed to
use) Bluetooth in the cockpit.
Luckily there are lots of apps and hardware accessories to match the wide range
of personal preferences, all contributing to making the iPad the ultimate EFB.
And Bad Elf has some exciting stuff in the works -- looking forward to Oshkosh
;-).
Brett Hackleman
Bad Elf, LLC
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Hi all
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I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and assembly
and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing?
-
Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is there an
y reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the right?- Convention s
eems to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube all go in the left as well.
- Is there a good reason for using the left?- Opinions welcome.
-
Thx.
-
Rick
Southampton, Ont
#40956
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Subject: | Re: leading edge |
I really like having two lights and the wig wag function. I feel it adds
significantly to safety.
Also I set one for taxi and one for in landing rotation so there is always
light where I want it.
Robin
Sent from Android phone
Probably while driving
On Apr 25, 2011 12:20 PM, "Rick Lark" <larkrv10@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Hi all
I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and assembly
and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing?
Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is there any
reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the right? Convention seems
to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube all go in the left as well. Is
there a good reason for using the left? Opinions welcome.
Thx.
Rick
Southampton, Ont
#40956
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The only reason I could think of would be for shorter runs to the left side
of the instrument panel, but there's not much difference if you use the
right side. Of course, if you put the landing light in the right side, its
weight could help balance the weight of all that stuff in the left side.
Jack Phillips
#40610 Wings
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:11 PM
Subject: RV10-List: leading edge
Hi all
I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and assembly
and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing?
Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is there any
reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the right? Convention seems
to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube all go in the left as well. Is
there a good reason for using the left? Opinions welcome.
Thx.
Rick
Southampton, Ont
#40956
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Subject: | Re: leading edge |
You could move all the stuff you mentioned to the right side, but I'd still put
the landing light on the left because that 's the side you'll be on (most likely)
and the light's coverage will be more to that side of the plane. The mounting
kit isn't really designed for left-right adjustment so you'd have to tinker
to get the light aimed just right if you put it on the right side and wanted
to optimize the lighting target area for the left seat. Not a show stopper
by any stretch, but also not really something worth wasting time on IMO. Every
mod, no matter how simple seems to add a lot of extra time to the build.
Unless you have a good reason to relocate things from one side to the other, I
recommend following the plans and build on. YMMV....
--------
Todd Stovall
728TT (reserved)
RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse
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If you only put one light in, you want it on the left side, the pilot side.
If you put it on Rt side when taxing you do not get full vision. Rt side l
anding, left side taxi.
Just my two cents.
Patrick Thyssen
N15PT
--- On Mon, 4/25/11, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge
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I like the thought process. Why on the Left? The balance of CG from
Left of Center to Over Center coupled with the reflection of light off
of objects at a distance is easy with the old "Angle of Reflection
Rule". Having twice as many Landing lights is fine, but I like the
pursuit of CG as a reason for going to the Right. Our entire fleet has
Pulse-Lights and both Landing/Flare circuits.
Then there are those on the list that know I am no fan of the left and
always right leaning.
John
#40600
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge
The only reason I could think of would be for shorter runs to the left
side of the instrument panel, but there's not much difference if you use
the right side. Of course, if you put the landing light in the right
side, its weight could help balance the weight of all that stuff in the
left side.
Jack Phillips
#40610 Wings
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:11 PM
Subject: RV10-List: leading edge
Hi all
I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and
assembly and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing?
Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is there
any reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the right?
Convention seems to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube all go in
the left as well. Is there a good reason for using the left? Opinions
welcome.
Thx.
Rick
Southampton, Ont
#40956
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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Just to let everyone know, I am going to pulse the wing tip lights, and int
ended to use them for taxi/landing if need be.=C2- I kind of figured havi
ng the landing light as close as possible to being in-line with the PIC wou
ld be the proper way to go.=C2-
=C2-
None the less, I will ensure I'm able to add another HID to the right wing
in the future if need be.
=C2-
Hmmm, maybe I'll move the pitot tube to the right side....
=C2-
Thx guys,=C2- Rick
--- On Mon, 4/25/11, John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
From: John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge
Received: Monday, April 25, 2011, 6:57 PM
I like the thought process.=C2- Why on the Left?=C2- The balance of CG
from Left of Center to Over Center coupled with the reflection of light off
of objects at a distance is easy with the old "Angle of Reflection Rule".
=C2- Having twice as many Landing lights is fine, but I like the pursuit
of CG as a reason for going to the Right.=C2- Our entire fleet has Pulse-
Lights and both Landing/Flare circuits.
=C2-
Then there are those on the list that know I am no fan of the left and alwa
ys right leaning.
=C2-
John
#40600
=C2-
=C2-
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge
=C2-
The only reason I could think of would be for shorter runs to the left side
of the instrument panel, but there=99s not much difference if you us
e the right side.=C2- Of course, if you put the landing light in the righ
t side, its weight could help balance the weight of all that stuff in the l
eft side.
=C2-
Jack Phillips
#40610 Wings
Raleigh, NC
=C2-
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:11 PM
Subject: RV10-List: leading edge
=C2-
Hi all
=C2-
I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and assembly
and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing?
=C2-
Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is there an
y reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the right?=C2- Conventio
n seems to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube all go in the left as we
ll.=C2- Is there a good reason for using the left?=C2- Opinions welcome
.
=C2-
Thx.
=C2-
Rick
Southampton, Ont
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Subject: | Re: leading edge |
My roll servo and aileron trim is in the right wing. They are by far
heaver than the pitot tube and stall warning that are in the left wing.
Also there are 7 wires to the servo and 5 (i thing) to the trim, filling
up the conduit.
Larry
On 4/25/2011 3:40 PM, Rick Lark wrote:
> Just to let everyone know, I am going to pulse the wing tip lights,
> and intended to use them for taxi/landing if need be. I kind of
> figured having the landing light as close as possible to being in-line
> with the PIC would be the proper way to go.
> None the less, I will ensure I'm able to add another HID to the right
> wing in the future if need be.
> Hmmm, maybe I'll move the pitot tube to the right side....
> Thx guys, Rick
>
> --- On *Mon, 4/25/11, John Cox /<johnwcox@pacificnw.com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Received: Monday, April 25, 2011, 6:57 PM
>
> I like the thought process. Why on the Left? The balance of CG
> from Left of Center to Over Center coupled with the reflection of
> light off of objects at a distance is easy with the old "Angle of
> Reflection Rule". Having twice as many Landing lights is fine,
> but I like the pursuit of CG as a reason for going to the Right.
> Our entire fleet has Pulse-Lights and both Landing/Flare circuits.
>
> Then there are those on the list that know I am no fan of the left
> and always right leaning.
>
> John
>
> #40600
>
> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jack
> Phillips
> *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2011 9:49 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: leading edge
>
> The only reason I could think of would be for shorter runs to the
> left side of the instrument panel, but theres not much difference
> if you use the right side. Of course, if you put the landing
> light in the right side, its weight could help balance the weight
> of all that stuff in the left side.
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> #40610 Wings
>
> Raleigh, NC
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Lark
> *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2011 12:11 PM
> *To:* RV10-list
> *Subject:* RV10-List: leading edge
>
> Hi all
>
> I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and
> assembly and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing?
>
> Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is
> there any reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the
> right? Convention seems to dictate the stall switch and pitot
> tube all go in the left as well. Is there a good reason for using
> the left? Opinions welcome.
>
> Thx.
>
> Rick
>
> Southampton, Ont
>
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Subject: | Re: leading edge |
Personally, I really like the dual HID's so much that my advice
is to cut the hole in each wing for the kit...and if you only
want one side for now, just do one side. But some day you'll
probably want one in the other side, and cutting the wing won't
appeal to you later.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 4/25/2011 2:40 PM, Rick Lark wrote:
> Just to let everyone know, I am going to pulse the wing tip lights, and
> intended to use them for taxi/landing if need be. I kind of figured
> having the landing light as close as possible to being in-line with the
> PIC would be the proper way to go.
> None the less, I will ensure I'm able to add another HID to the right
> wing in the future if need be.
> Hmmm, maybe I'll move the pitot tube to the right side....
> Thx guys, Rick
>
> --- On *Mon, 4/25/11, John Cox /<johnwcox@pacificnw.com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Received: Monday, April 25, 2011, 6:57 PM
>
> I like the thought process. Why on the Left? The balance of CG from
> Left of Center to Over Center coupled with the reflection of light
> off of objects at a distance is easy with the old "Angle of
> Reflection Rule". Having twice as many Landing lights is fine, but I
> like the pursuit of CG as a reason for going to the Right. Our
> entire fleet has Pulse-Lights and both Landing/Flare circuits.
>
> Then there are those on the list that know I am no fan of the left
> and always right leaning.
>
> John
>
> #40600
>
> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jack
> Phillips
> *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2011 9:49 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: leading edge
>
> The only reason I could think of would be for shorter runs to the
> left side of the instrument panel, but theres not much difference
> if you use the right side. Of course, if you put the landing light
> in the right side, its weight could help balance the weight of all
> that stuff in the left side.
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> #40610 Wings
>
> Raleigh, NC
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Lark
> *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2011 12:11 PM
> *To:* RV10-list
> *Subject:* RV10-List: leading edge
>
> Hi all
>
> I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and
> assembly and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing?
>
> Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is
> there any reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the right?
> Convention seems to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube all go
> in the left as well. Is there a good reason for using the left?
> Opinions welcome.
>
> Thx.
>
> Rick
>
> Southampton, Ont
>
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Subject: | Re: leading edge |
I have the pitot on the right, because when I started I had this vision of the
simple Van's pitot on the left, a heated pitot on the right. Well, that vision
went away, and now there's an OAT probe in the hole where Van's pitot would have
gone.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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Subject: | Re: leading edge |
Larry, after I wrote the reply below, I started thinking exactly as you hav
e, and realized my -10 will have the servo and trim just like yours, so I g
uess I will leave "well enough alone".
=C2-
Thx guys.........
=C2-
Rick
--- On Tue, 4/26/11, Larry Rosen <N205EN@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Larry Rosen <N205EN@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: leading edge
Received: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 12:47 AM
My roll servo and aileron trim is in the right wing.=C2- They are by far
heaver than the pitot tube and stall warning that are in the left wing.=C2
- Also there are 7 wires to the servo and 5 (i thing) to the trim, fillin
g up the conduit.=C2-
Larry
On 4/25/2011 3:40 PM, Rick Lark wrote:
Just to let everyone know, I am going to pulse the wing tip lights, and int
ended to use them for taxi/landing if need be.=C2- I kind of figured havi
ng the landing light as close as possible to being in-line with the PIC wou
ld be the proper way to go.=C2-
=C2-
None the less, I will ensure I'm able to add another HID to the right wing
in the future if need be.
=C2-
Hmmm, maybe I'll move the pitot tube to the right side....
=C2-
Thx guys,=C2- Rick
--- On Mon, 4/25/11, John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
From: John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge
Received: Monday, April 25, 2011, 6:57 PM
I like the thought process.=C2- Why on the Left?=C2- The balance of CG
from Left of Center to Over Center coupled with the reflection of light off
of objects at a distance is easy with the old "Angle of Reflection Rule".
=C2- Having twice as many Landing lights is fine, but I like the pursuit
of CG as a reason for going to the Right.=C2- Our entire fleet has Pulse-
Lights and both Landing/Flare circuits.
=C2-
Then there are those on the list that know I am no fan of the left and alwa
ys right leaning.
=C2-
John
#40600
=C2-
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge
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The only reason I could think of would be for shorter runs to the left side
of the instrument panel, but there=99s not much difference if you us
e the right side.=C2- Of course, if you put the landing light in the righ
t side, its weight could help balance the weight of all that stuff in the l
eft side.
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Jack Phillips
#40610 Wings
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:11 PM
Subject: RV10-List: leading edge
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Hi all
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I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and assembly
and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing?
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Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is there an
y reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the right?=C2- Conventio
n seems to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube all go in the left as we
ll.=C2- Is there a good reason for using the left?=C2- Opinions welcome
.
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Thx.
=C2-
Rick
Southampton, Ont
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