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Mon 04/25/11


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 09:05 AM - Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question (BrettAtBadElf)
     2. 09:13 AM - leading edge (Rick Lark)
     3. 09:28 AM - Re: leading edge (Robin Marks)
     4. 09:52 AM - Re: leading edge (Jack Phillips)
     5. 10:49 AM - Re: leading edge (tsts4)
     6. 11:52 AM - Re: leading edge (Patrick Thyssen)
     7. 11:59 AM - Re: leading edge (John Cox)
     8. 12:43 PM - Re: leading edge (Rick Lark)
     9. 05:51 PM - Re: leading edge (Larry Rosen)
    10. 06:41 PM - Re: leading edge (Tim Olson)
    11. 07:10 PM - Re: leading edge (Bob Turner)
    12. 07:27 PM - Re: leading edge (Rick Lark)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:05:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: I-Pad2 and Bad elf question
    From: "BrettAtBadElf" <brett@bad-elf.com>
    Kelly McMullen wrote: > I believe the Bad Elf GPS has a pass through connector so the dock > port is still available, at least from the description I recall. But I > agree I wouldn't want an appendage there. > The Bad Elf GPS does have a pass-thru micro-USB port for charging the iPad during use. We know there are pros and cons for the dongle form-factor, the big downsides being antenna placement and having something hang off the iPad. I've been flying with it for over a year and neither IMHO are major issues. The upsides are true plug and play operation, zero configuration, and no batteries to keep charged. Not to mention that some pilots just don't like (or aren't allowed to use) Bluetooth in the cockpit. Luckily there are lots of apps and hardware accessories to match the wide range of personal preferences, all contributing to making the iPad the ultimate EFB. And Bad Elf has some exciting stuff in the works -- looking forward to Oshkosh ;-). Brett Hackleman Bad Elf, LLC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338071#338071


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    Time: 09:13:51 AM PST US
    From: Rick Lark <larkrv10@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: leading edge
    Hi all - I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and assembly and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing? - Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is there an y reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the right?- Convention s eems to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube all go in the left as well. - Is there a good reason for using the left?- Opinions welcome. - Thx. - Rick Southampton, Ont #40956


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    Time: 09:28:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: leading edge
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    I really like having two lights and the wig wag function. I feel it adds significantly to safety. Also I set one for taxi and one for in landing rotation so there is always light where I want it. Robin Sent from Android phone Probably while driving On Apr 25, 2011 12:20 PM, "Rick Lark" <larkrv10@yahoo.ca> wrote: Hi all I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and assembly and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing? Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is there any reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the right? Convention seems to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube all go in the left as well. Is there a good reason for using the left? Opinions welcome. Thx. Rick Southampton, Ont #40956 * *


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    Time: 09:52:48 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: leading edge
    The only reason I could think of would be for shorter runs to the left side of the instrument panel, but there's not much difference if you use the right side. Of course, if you put the landing light in the right side, its weight could help balance the weight of all that stuff in the left side. Jack Phillips #40610 Wings Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: RV10-List: leading edge Hi all I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and assembly and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing? Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is there any reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the right? Convention seems to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube all go in the left as well. Is there a good reason for using the left? Opinions welcome. Thx. Rick Southampton, Ont #40956


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    Time: 10:49:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: leading edge
    From: "tsts4" <tsts4@verizon.net>
    You could move all the stuff you mentioned to the right side, but I'd still put the landing light on the left because that 's the side you'll be on (most likely) and the light's coverage will be more to that side of the plane. The mounting kit isn't really designed for left-right adjustment so you'd have to tinker to get the light aimed just right if you put it on the right side and wanted to optimize the lighting target area for the left seat. Not a show stopper by any stretch, but also not really something worth wasting time on IMO. Every mod, no matter how simple seems to add a lot of extra time to the build. Unless you have a good reason to relocate things from one side to the other, I recommend following the plans and build on. YMMV.... -------- Todd Stovall 728TT (reserved) RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338082#338082


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    Time: 11:52:03 AM PST US
    From: Patrick Thyssen <jump2@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: leading edge
    If you only put one light in, you want it on the left side, the pilot side. If you put it on Rt side when taxing you do not get full vision. Rt side l anding, left side taxi. Just my two cents. Patrick Thyssen N15PT --- On Mon, 4/25/11, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AThe only reason I could think of woul d be=0Afor shorter runs to the left side of the instrument panel, but there =99s=0Anot much difference if you use the right side.=C2- Of course , if you put the=0Alanding light in the right side, its weight could help b alance the weight of=0Aall that stuff in the left side. =0A=0A =C2- =0A =0AJack Phillips =0A=0A#40610 Wings =0A=0ARaleigh, NC =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AFrom:=0Aowner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mai lto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On=0ABehalf Of Rick Lark =0ASent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:11=0APM =0ATo: RV10-list =0ASubject: RV10-List: leading edge =0A=0A=0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A Hi all =0A =0A =0A =C2- =0A =0A =0A I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for=0A p riming and assembly and am wondering why everything seems to go in the=0A left wing? =0A =0A =0A =C2- =0A =0A =0A Since I'm onl y installing a single Duckworks HID landing=0A light, is there any reaso n it has to go in the left, as opposed to the=0A right?=C2- Convention seems to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube=0A all go in the left as well.=C2- Is there a good reason for using the=0A left?=C2- Opini ons welcome. =0A =0A =0A =C2- =0A =0A =0A Thx. =0A =0A =0A =C2- =0A =0A =0A Rick =0A =0A =0A Southa mpton, Ont =0A =0A =0A #40956 =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A =C2- =C2-http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Lis thttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2- =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 11:59:54 AM PST US
    Subject: leading edge
    From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    I like the thought process. Why on the Left? The balance of CG from Left of Center to Over Center coupled with the reflection of light off of objects at a distance is easy with the old "Angle of Reflection Rule". Having twice as many Landing lights is fine, but I like the pursuit of CG as a reason for going to the Right. Our entire fleet has Pulse-Lights and both Landing/Flare circuits. Then there are those on the list that know I am no fan of the left and always right leaning. John #40600 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 9:49 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge The only reason I could think of would be for shorter runs to the left side of the instrument panel, but there's not much difference if you use the right side. Of course, if you put the landing light in the right side, its weight could help balance the weight of all that stuff in the left side. Jack Phillips #40610 Wings Raleigh, NC ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: RV10-List: leading edge Hi all I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and assembly and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing? Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is there any reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the right? Convention seems to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube all go in the left as well. Is there a good reason for using the left? Opinions welcome. Thx. Rick Southampton, Ont #40956 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 12:43:59 PM PST US
    From: Rick Lark <larkrv10@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: leading edge
    Just to let everyone know, I am going to pulse the wing tip lights, and int ended to use them for taxi/landing if need be.=C2- I kind of figured havi ng the landing light as close as possible to being in-line with the PIC wou ld be the proper way to go.=C2- =C2- None the less, I will ensure I'm able to add another HID to the right wing in the future if need be. =C2- Hmmm, maybe I'll move the pitot tube to the right side.... =C2- Thx guys,=C2- Rick --- On Mon, 4/25/11, John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote: From: John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge Received: Monday, April 25, 2011, 6:57 PM I like the thought process.=C2- Why on the Left?=C2- The balance of CG from Left of Center to Over Center coupled with the reflection of light off of objects at a distance is easy with the old "Angle of Reflection Rule". =C2- Having twice as many Landing lights is fine, but I like the pursuit of CG as a reason for going to the Right.=C2- Our entire fleet has Pulse- Lights and both Landing/Flare circuits. =C2- Then there are those on the list that know I am no fan of the left and alwa ys right leaning. =C2- John #40600 =C2- =C2- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 9:49 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge =C2- The only reason I could think of would be for shorter runs to the left side of the instrument panel, but there=99s not much difference if you us e the right side.=C2- Of course, if you put the landing light in the righ t side, its weight could help balance the weight of all that stuff in the l eft side. =C2- Jack Phillips #40610 Wings Raleigh, NC =C2- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: RV10-List: leading edge =C2- Hi all =C2- I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and assembly and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing? =C2- Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is there an y reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the right?=C2- Conventio n seems to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube all go in the left as we ll.=C2- Is there a good reason for using the left?=C2- Opinions welcome . =C2- Thx. =C2- Rick Southampton, Ont #40956 =C2- =C2-http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List =C2-http ://forums.matronics.com =C2-http://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2- =C2- =C2-http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matr onics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2-


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    Time: 05:51:06 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <N205EN@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: leading edge
    My roll servo and aileron trim is in the right wing. They are by far heaver than the pitot tube and stall warning that are in the left wing. Also there are 7 wires to the servo and 5 (i thing) to the trim, filling up the conduit. Larry On 4/25/2011 3:40 PM, Rick Lark wrote: > Just to let everyone know, I am going to pulse the wing tip lights, > and intended to use them for taxi/landing if need be. I kind of > figured having the landing light as close as possible to being in-line > with the PIC would be the proper way to go. > None the less, I will ensure I'm able to add another HID to the right > wing in the future if need be. > Hmmm, maybe I'll move the pitot tube to the right side.... > Thx guys, Rick > > --- On *Mon, 4/25/11, John Cox /<johnwcox@pacificnw.com>/* wrote: > > > From: John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Received: Monday, April 25, 2011, 6:57 PM > > I like the thought process. Why on the Left? The balance of CG > from Left of Center to Over Center coupled with the reflection of > light off of objects at a distance is easy with the old "Angle of > Reflection Rule". Having twice as many Landing lights is fine, > but I like the pursuit of CG as a reason for going to the Right. > Our entire fleet has Pulse-Lights and both Landing/Flare circuits. > > Then there are those on the list that know I am no fan of the left > and always right leaning. > > John > > #40600 > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jack > Phillips > *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2011 9:49 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: leading edge > > The only reason I could think of would be for shorter runs to the > left side of the instrument panel, but theres not much difference > if you use the right side. Of course, if you put the landing > light in the right side, its weight could help balance the weight > of all that stuff in the left side. > > Jack Phillips > > #40610 Wings > > Raleigh, NC > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Lark > *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2011 12:11 PM > *To:* RV10-list > *Subject:* RV10-List: leading edge > > Hi all > > I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and > assembly and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing? > > Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is > there any reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the > right? Convention seems to dictate the stall switch and pitot > tube all go in the left as well. Is there a good reason for using > the left? Opinions welcome. > > Thx. > > Rick > > Southampton, Ont > > #40956 > > * * > > * * > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > > * * > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > * * > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > * * > > * > * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > > =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > * > > > *


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    Time: 06:41:15 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: leading edge
    Personally, I really like the dual HID's so much that my advice is to cut the hole in each wing for the kit...and if you only want one side for now, just do one side. But some day you'll probably want one in the other side, and cutting the wing won't appeal to you later. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 4/25/2011 2:40 PM, Rick Lark wrote: > Just to let everyone know, I am going to pulse the wing tip lights, and > intended to use them for taxi/landing if need be. I kind of figured > having the landing light as close as possible to being in-line with the > PIC would be the proper way to go. > None the less, I will ensure I'm able to add another HID to the right > wing in the future if need be. > Hmmm, maybe I'll move the pitot tube to the right side.... > Thx guys, Rick > > --- On *Mon, 4/25/11, John Cox /<johnwcox@pacificnw.com>/* wrote: > > > From: John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Received: Monday, April 25, 2011, 6:57 PM > > I like the thought process. Why on the Left? The balance of CG from > Left of Center to Over Center coupled with the reflection of light > off of objects at a distance is easy with the old "Angle of > Reflection Rule". Having twice as many Landing lights is fine, but I > like the pursuit of CG as a reason for going to the Right. Our > entire fleet has Pulse-Lights and both Landing/Flare circuits. > > Then there are those on the list that know I am no fan of the left > and always right leaning. > > John > > #40600 > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jack > Phillips > *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2011 9:49 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: leading edge > > The only reason I could think of would be for shorter runs to the > left side of the instrument panel, but theres not much difference > if you use the right side. Of course, if you put the landing light > in the right side, its weight could help balance the weight of all > that stuff in the left side. > > Jack Phillips > > #40610 Wings > > Raleigh, NC > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Lark > *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2011 12:11 PM > *To:* RV10-list > *Subject:* RV10-List: leading edge > > Hi all > > I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and > assembly and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing? > > Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is > there any reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the right? > Convention seems to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube all go > in the left as well. Is there a good reason for using the left? > Opinions welcome. > > Thx. > > Rick > > Southampton, Ont > > #40956 > > * * > > * * > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > > * * > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > * * > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > * * > > * > * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > > =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > * > > > *


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    Time: 07:10:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: leading edge
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    I have the pitot on the right, because when I started I had this vision of the simple Van's pitot on the left, a heated pitot on the right. Well, that vision went away, and now there's an OAT probe in the hole where Van's pitot would have gone. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338119#338119


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    Time: 07:27:34 PM PST US
    From: Rick Lark <larkrv10@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: leading edge
    Larry, after I wrote the reply below, I started thinking exactly as you hav e, and realized my -10 will have the servo and trim just like yours, so I g uess I will leave "well enough alone". =C2- Thx guys......... =C2- Rick --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Larry Rosen <N205EN@gmail.com> wrote: From: Larry Rosen <N205EN@gmail.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: leading edge Received: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 12:47 AM My roll servo and aileron trim is in the right wing.=C2- They are by far heaver than the pitot tube and stall warning that are in the left wing.=C2 - Also there are 7 wires to the servo and 5 (i thing) to the trim, fillin g up the conduit.=C2- Larry On 4/25/2011 3:40 PM, Rick Lark wrote: Just to let everyone know, I am going to pulse the wing tip lights, and int ended to use them for taxi/landing if need be.=C2- I kind of figured havi ng the landing light as close as possible to being in-line with the PIC wou ld be the proper way to go.=C2- =C2- None the less, I will ensure I'm able to add another HID to the right wing in the future if need be. =C2- Hmmm, maybe I'll move the pitot tube to the right side.... =C2- Thx guys,=C2- Rick --- On Mon, 4/25/11, John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote: From: John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge Received: Monday, April 25, 2011, 6:57 PM I like the thought process.=C2- Why on the Left?=C2- The balance of CG from Left of Center to Over Center coupled with the reflection of light off of objects at a distance is easy with the old "Angle of Reflection Rule". =C2- Having twice as many Landing lights is fine, but I like the pursuit of CG as a reason for going to the Right.=C2- Our entire fleet has Pulse- Lights and both Landing/Flare circuits. =C2- Then there are those on the list that know I am no fan of the left and alwa ys right leaning. =C2- John #40600 =C2- =C2- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 9:49 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: leading edge =C2- The only reason I could think of would be for shorter runs to the left side of the instrument panel, but there=99s not much difference if you us e the right side.=C2- Of course, if you put the landing light in the righ t side, its weight could help balance the weight of all that stuff in the l eft side. =C2- Jack Phillips #40610 Wings Raleigh, NC =C2- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: RV10-List: leading edge =C2- Hi all =C2- I'm slowly getting my leading edge sections ready for priming and assembly and am wondering why everything seems to go in the left wing? =C2- Since I'm only installing a single Duckworks HID landing light, is there an y reason it has to go in the left, as opposed to the right?=C2- Conventio n seems to dictate the stall switch and pitot tube all go in the left as we ll.=C2- Is there a good reason for using the left?=C2- Opinions welcome . =C2- Thx. =C2- Rick Southampton, Ont #40956 =C2- =C2-http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List =C2-http ://forums.matronics.com =C2-http://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2- =C2- =C2-http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2- =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution




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