---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/02/11: 27 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:26 AM - [LML] Re: Beware update (Bobby J. Hughes) 2. 07:08 AM - Re: searchable part list (Ross Wendell) 3. 07:26 AM - Re: searchable part list (Kelly McMullen) 4. 12:32 PM - Ignition wire routing on IO-540 with lightspeed ignition (Michael Wellenzohn) 5. 12:32 PM - Re: [LML] Re: Beware update (Tim Olson) 6. 12:36 PM - Re: Retrofit locking fuel caps (Michael Wellenzohn) 7. 12:54 PM - Re: Ignition wire routing on IO-540 with lightspeed ignition (Tim Olson) 8. 01:09 PM - Re: Re: Retrofit locking fuel caps (Robin Marks) 9. 01:25 PM - Re: Ignition wire routing on IO-540 with lightspeed ignition (Michael Kraus) 10. 01:25 PM - Re: Ignition wire routing on IO-540 with lightspeed ignition (Geoff Combs) 11. 02:54 PM - [LML] Re: Beware update (johngoodman) 12. 04:58 PM - travel covers (Rob Kochman) 13. 05:21 PM - Re: Ignition wire routing on IO-540 with lightspeed ignition (George Nolin) 14. 06:01 PM - NACA Vent Insect Screens (Patrick Pulis) 15. 06:54 PM - Re: NACA Vent Insect Screens (Don McDonald) 16. 06:55 PM - Re: NACA Vent Insect Screens (greghale) 17. 06:56 PM - Re: travel covers (Michael Kraus) 18. 06:58 PM - Re: Retrofit locking fuel caps (dmaib@me.com) 19. 07:01 PM - Re: travel covers (dmaib@me.com) 20. 07:06 PM - Re: NACA Vent Insect Screens (dmaib@me.com) 21. 07:09 PM - fuel tank countersinks (Rick Lark) 22. 07:11 PM - [LML] Re: Beware update (dmaib@me.com) 23. 08:38 PM - Re: Re: NACA Vent Insect Screens (John Cumins) 24. 09:10 PM - Re: travel covers (Tim Olson) 25. 09:13 PM - Re: [LML] Re: Beware update (Tim Olson) 26. 09:34 PM - traveling covers, for really traveling (John Gonzalez) 27. 10:17 PM - Re: traveling covers, for really traveling (Tim Olson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:28 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: [LML] Re: Beware update From: "Bobby J. Hughes" Here's a post from another group that may be of intrest to some. It appears AOPA has been in contact with CBP regarding a "new trend". I find AOPA's (Craig Spence) comments disturbing. Bobby Hughes N416AS ________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: vtailjeff@aol.com Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 10:00 AM Subject: [LML] Re: Beware update As most of you on the list know we had an incident in April here in St. Louis where one of our own was "stopped" by local police based on a "tip" from Customs and Border Patrol. Here is an update to that story: Bob Rickard (who was the individual stopped) and I have received more emails from other Lancair pilots who have been stopped as well based on "tips" from CBP. So this is not an isolated incident. I contacted AOPA, my congressman's staff, and CBP themselves. AOPA's Craig Spence is presently working this issue on our behalf. He already had ascheduled meeting with CBP on Wednesday, so he brought this subject up. He said that CBP wants to be the new "skycop". He conveyed our concerns to them --targeting GA for poloce searches and the issue of the fax that is sent to police agencies justifying detaining pilots. Mr. Spence told them that the fax has errors on it and agreed to help them correct those. On the issue of tracking GA flights and detaining pilots, Mr. Spence said the CBP is not budging. He believes we need to take this to Congressional leaders --he said we are in for a long battle with CBP. The day after Mr. Spence's meeting I received two phone calls from CBP (so it is true about smelly stuff rolling downhill). The first call was from "Carlos" at CBP HQ. Carlos works in Gen. Mike Kostelnik's office in DC. Kostelnik, a retired AF two star, is the head of the CBP Air and Marine Center. Carlos wanted to know what our concerns were and I repeated that we did not like getting stopped based on bogus information. He wanted to know how I was certain CBP was behind these stops (he implied they had nothing to do with it) and I said it was from information from the local police and the fax AMOC sent to them. (Ah, the truth and evidence is so great) He was pretty agitated during our conversation and said if we were stopped and the police questioned us then we should tell them what they wanted to know. I said I disagreed (Fifth Amendment) . I gave him the specifics of Bobaloos stop two weeks ago and he agreed to look into it. I said that in the best light their intell is either unvetted or their analyis is poor. He disagreed (of course) and gave many other reasons (all bogus) as to why their intel was good. He said it could have been because the aircraft was a prior drug aircraft. I replied that would be pretty difficult since I built it, flew it and then sold it to Col. Rickard. I said that in the worst light --their folks are making up stories to get the local police to stop GA pilots--for the crime of ....flying. Of course he about blew a gasket. I asked him to tell me where CBP got this information about Bob carrying a fugitive. He replied that is a matter of national security and could not tell me. A couple of hours later I receive a phone call from Tony C. at the CBP AMOC in Riverside, CA asking again about my concerns. Again I expressed the same and while he was very polite and cordial and appears to be a dedicated public servant doing a tough job I reiterated that law abiding GA pilots do not enjoy getting stopped by law enforcement based on seemingly bogus information. Tony said they are just trying to "put their eyes on people"--meaning us. I remarked that there has to be a better way of doing that than surrounding a pilot with 6 police cars and ten officers. He said they have tough job catching bad guys. I said that that they need to do a better job screening their intel. It seemed both he and Carlos went back and forth on whether the intel came from internal sources or external ones. At one point he said people were calling their hotline with tips -- so I challenged him as to how someone would know the Mr. McCrae was on Bob's airplane and then called them in Riverside to report it. The story seemed to change to they had strong intel internally. Never an admission that they screwed up. Just more reasons why their intel is solid. Even at one point denying it is their intel-- "it comes from somewhere else-- they are just the middle man." Tony said they are all ex military and are all pilots so I pointed oujt that the fax has numerous errors and the FARs contains no language allowing detention of a pilot for failing to have his medical or logbook on his person (look for that to change as CBP will probably write criminal regulations re: pilots) . The whole time I could hear a beep every ten seconds or so probably indicating I was being recorded. Althoug Tony was pleasant there was no progress on this issue. None. I spoke with my congressman's senior staffer as well. I relayed the details of the issue to her and she seemed sincerely interested. She said it is best to generate a letter from our organizations (we are) and forward that with a personal note to all of our congressmen. She said I should be carefull so that I don't become a target. All for now. Jeff "Bullseye" Edwards ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:19 AM PST US From: "Ross Wendell" Subject: Re: RV10-List: searchable part list Vans Will email you the listings. Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Jim Combs Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 20:04:38 GMT+00:00 Subject: RV10-List: searchable part list I am looking for a link to a set of searchable .doc or .pdf parts list for the various rv-10 kits. I can't seem to loacate a document online. A friend of mine has just purchased an emp kit from an estate sale and is doing an inventory. Thanks, Jim Combs N312F - Flying 240 hours (Still needs paint!) Note: Paint it BEFORE you fly it! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:25 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: searchable part list From: Kelly McMullen Just go to Tim Olson's website. I don't remember if they are in the protected area or not. If so, just register with Tim. Then you can download all of the lists, from the early kits to some of the most recent, that let you see how the kits have evolved. May let you match whatever vintage the serial number kit purchased is. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Ross Wendell wrote: > Vans Will email you the listings. > > *Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless* > > > -----Original message----- > > *From: *Jim Combs * > To: *rv10-list@matronics.com* > Sent: *Sun, May 1, 2011 20:04:38 GMT+00:00* > Subject: *RV10-List: searchable part list > > I am looking for a link to a set of searchable .doc or .pdf parts list for > the various rv-10 kits. I can't seem to loacate a document online. > > A friend of mine has just purchased an emp kit from an estate sale and is > doing an inventory. > > Thanks, Jim Combs > > N312F - Flying 240 hours (Still needs paint!) > > Note: Paint it BEFORE you fly it! > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:32:06 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Ignition wire routing on IO-540 with lightspeed ignition From: "Michael Wellenzohn" Hello builders, I am trying to find my way back into building and plan to finalize the FWF wiring. How did other route the ignition wires from the Lightspeed ignition coils to the spark plugs. I have an TMX-540 with single Lightspeed ignition. It would be great to see some pictures. Many thanks Mike -------- RV-10 builder (interior,avionics, wiring) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338651#338651 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:32:54 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: [LML] Re: Beware update I've been watching that one too. I'm thinking that as soon as they get their letter ready, I'm going to get it out to all my local representatives. There's only one way this kind of thing is gonna stop and that's if we take the time to make a stir about it. Our liberties are being taken away pretty quick. Sounds like over time we may have more worries to come in the Amateur Built category too. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 5/2/2011 9:29 AM, Bobby J. Hughes wrote: > Heres a post from another group that may be of intrest to some. It > appears AOPA has been in contact with CBP regarding a new trend. I > find AOPAs (Craig Spence) comments disturbing. > > Bobby Hughes > > N416AS > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:*vtailjeff@aol.com > > *To:*lml@lancaironline.net > > *Sent:*Sunday, May 01, 2011 10:00 AM > > *Subject:*[LML] Re: Beware update > > > As most of you on the list know we had an incident in April here in St. > Louis where one of our own was "stopped" by local police based on a > "tip" from Customs and Border Patrol. Here is an update to that story: > > Bob Rickard (who was the individual stopped) and I have received more > emails from other Lancair pilots who have been stopped as well based on > "tips" from CBP. So this is not an isolated incident. I contacted AOPA, > my congressman's staff, and CBP themselves. AOPA's Craig Spence is > presently working this issue on our behalf. He already had ascheduled > meeting with CBP on Wednesday, so he brought this subject up. He said > that CBP wants to be the new "skycop". He conveyed our concerns to them > --targeting GA for poloce searches and the issue of the fax that is sent > to police agencies justifying detaining pilots. Mr. Spence told them > that the fax has errors on it and agreed to help them correct those. On > the issue of tracking GA flights and detaining pilots, Mr. Spence said > the CBP is not budging. He believes we need to take this to > Congressional leaders --he said we are in for a long battle with CBP. > > The day after Mr. Spence's meeting I received two phone calls from CBP > (so it is true about smelly stuff rolling downhill). The first call was > from "Carlos" at CBP HQ. Carlos works in Gen. Mike Kostelnik's office in > DC. Kostelnik, a retired AF two star, is the head of the CBP Air and > Marine Center. Carlos wanted to know what our concerns were and I > repeated that we did not like getting stopped based on bogus > information. He wanted to know how I was certain CBP was behind these > stops (he implied they had nothing to do with it) and I said it was from > information from the local police and the fax AMOC sent to them. (Ah, > the truth and evidence is so great) He was pretty agitated during our > conversation and said if we were stopped and the police questioned us > then we should tell them what they wanted to know. I said I disagreed > (Fifth Amendment) . I gave him the specifics of Bobaloos stop two weeks > ago and he agreed to look into it. I said that in the best light their > intell is either unvetted or their analyis is poor. He disagreed (of > course) and gave many other reasons (all bogus) as to why their intel > was good. He said it could have been because the aircraft was a prior > drug aircraft. I replied that would be pretty difficult since I built > it, flew it and then sold it to Col. Rickard. I said that in the worst > light --their folks are making up stories to get the local police to > stop GA pilots--for the crime of ....flying. Of course he about blew a > gasket. I asked him to tell me where CBP got this information about Bob > carrying a fugitive. He replied that is a matter of national security > and could not tell me. > > A couple of hours later I receive a phone call from Tony C. at the CBP > AMOC in Riverside, CA asking again about my concerns. Again I expressed > the same and while he was very polite and cordial and appears to be a > dedicated public servant doing a tough job I reiterated that law abiding > GA pilots do not enjoy getting stopped by law enforcement based on > seemingly bogus information. Tony said they are just trying to "put > their eyes on people"--meaning us. I remarked that there has to be a > better way of doing that than surrounding a pilot with 6 police cars and > ten officers. He said they have tough job catching bad guys. I said that > that they need to do a better job screening their intel. It seemed both > he and Carlos went back and forth on whether the intel came from > internal sources or external ones. At one point he said people were > calling their hotline with tips -- so I challenged him as to how someone > would know the Mr. McCrae was on Bob's airplane and then called them in > Riverside to report it. The story seemed to change to they had strong > intel internally. Never an admission that they screwed up. Just more > reasons why their intel is solid. Even at one point denying it is their > intel-- "it comes from somewhere else-- they are just the middle man." > Tony said they are all ex military and are all pilots so I pointed oujt > that the fax has numerous errors and the FARs contains no language > allowing detention of a pilot for failing to have his medical or logbook > on his person (look for that to change as CBP will probably write > criminal regulations re: pilots) . The whole time I could hear a beep > every ten seconds or so probably indicating I was being recorded. > Althoug Tony was pleasant there was no progress on this issue. None. > > I spoke with my congressman's senior staffer as well. I relayed the > details of the issue to her and she seemed sincerely interested. She > said it is best to generate a letter from our organizations (we are) and > forward that with a personal note to all of our congressmen. She said I > should be carefull so that I don't become a target. > > All for now. > > Jeff "Bullseye" Edwards > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:53 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Retrofit locking fuel caps From: "Michael Wellenzohn" I am interested in the Andair retrofit fuel caps. Did anyone use them and is already flying? Pictures of the installation would be much appreciated. Regards Michael -------- RV-10 builder (interior,avionics, wiring) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338654#338654 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:54:58 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ignition wire routing on IO-540 with lightspeed ignition I just enlarged the hole in a standard eyeball pass through and put all 3 cables through that, and RTV'd them in so they wouldn't vibrate. Then used standard spark plug baffle pass throughs on the baffling, and RTV'd them there too since they're smaller cables than plug wires are. Nothing too fancy. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 5/2/2011 2:26 PM, Michael Wellenzohn wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Michael Wellenzohn" > > Hello builders, > > I am trying to find my way back into building and plan to finalize the FWF wiring. > How did other route the ignition wires from the Lightspeed ignition coils to the spark plugs. I have an TMX-540 with single Lightspeed ignition. > It would be great to see some pictures. > > Many thanks > Mike > > -------- > RV-10 builder (interior,avionics, wiring) > #511 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338651#338651 > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:09:34 PM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Retrofit locking fuel caps RV10-List: Re: Retrofit locking fuel caps I LOVE Andair products but I recall a discussion stating that the locking fuel tend to vent out of the lock mechanism and that builders that fill their tanks up nearly all the way experience blue fuel streaks coming off of the fuel cap opening in flight. The best solution seems to be to paint your wings blue. Not 100% sure this was an Andair cap issue or another locking cap. Robin *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael Wellenzohn *Sent:* Monday, May 02, 2011 12:32 PM *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com *Subject:* RV10-List: Re: Retrofit locking fuel caps I am interested in the Andair retrofit fuel caps. Did anyone use them and is already flying? Pictures of the installation would be much appreciated. Regards Michael -------- RV-10 builder (interior,avionics, wiring) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338654#338654 ------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:25:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ignition wire routing on IO-540 with lightspeed ignition From: Michael Kraus Here is what I did. -Mike Kraus Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2011, at 3:26 PM, "Michael Wellenzohn" wrot e: t> > > Hello builders, > > I am trying to find my way back into building and plan to finalize the FWF wiring. > How did other route the ignition wires from the Lightspeed ignition coils t o the spark plugs. I have an TMX-540 with single Lightspeed ignition. > It would be great to see some pictures. > > Many thanks > Mike > > -------- > RV-10 builder (interior,avionics, wiring) > #511 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338651#338651 > > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > >
________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:25:54 PM PST US From: "Geoff Combs" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Ignition wire routing on IO-540 with lightspeed ignition Michael here is what I did same as Tim on the fire wall and then into the Baffling I used silicone grommets. See Pictures Geoff Combs President 614-834-5227p 614-834-5230f www.aerosportmodeling.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Wellenzohn Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:27 PM Subject: RV10-List: Ignition wire routing on IO-540 with lightspeed ignition Hello builders, I am trying to find my way back into building and plan to finalize the FWF wiring. How did other route the ignition wires from the Lightspeed ignition coils to the spark plugs. I have an TMX-540 with single Lightspeed ignition. It would be great to see some pictures. Many thanks Mike -------- RV-10 builder (interior,avionics, wiring) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338651#338651 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:54:02 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: [LML] Re: Beware update From: "johngoodman" How about giving us a little info on the subject - I haven't a clue on what you're talking about. John -------- #40572 Painted and assembled. Panel almost ready. N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338668#338668 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:58:59 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: travel covers From: Rob Kochman What is everyone using for a travel cover, and do you like it? I know there's the Van's lightweight one, Flightline has one, and I've heard of Bruce's. Will probably also get some cowl inlet plugs as well. Thanks... -Rob -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying, Phase 1 http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:21:38 PM PST US From: George Nolin Subject: RE: RV10-List: Ignition wire routing on IO-540 with lightspeed ignition Mr. Combs, - Where did you get the great looking round covers for the upper engine mount s.- I've used a lot of RTV and still mine engine mounts are not sealed ve ry well. - G. Hank Nolin, P.E. 832-640-6284 Alias- RV10 Soon. --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Geoff Combs wrote: From: Geoff Combs Subject: RE: RV10-List: Ignition wire routing on IO-540 with lightspeed ign ition Michael here is what I did same as Tim on the fire wall and then into the Baffling I used silicone grommets. See Pictures Geoff Combs President 614-834-5227p 614-834-5230f www.aerosportmodeling.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Wellenzohn Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:27 PM Subject: RV10-List: Ignition wire routing on IO-540 with lightspeed ignitio n > Hello builders, I am trying to find my way back into building and plan to finalize the FWF wiring. How did other route the ignition wires from the Lightspeed ignition coils t o the spark plugs. I have an TMX-540 with single Lightspeed ignition. It would be great to see some pictures. Many thanks Mike -------- RV-10 builder (interior,avionics, wiring) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338651#338651 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:01:56 PM PST US From: Patrick Pulis Subject: RV10-List: NACA Vent Insect Screens Could anyone please indicate if the fitting of screens (as per other aircra ft =0Asuch as the EADS Tobago which has a similar vent configuration to the RV-10) to =0Aprevent the entry of insects through the NACA air vents is wa rranted?=0A-=0AI'll be fitting an additional two NACA vents behind the ca bin top to feed ram =0Aair into the overhead console and will have four in total.=0A-=0AWhat are people doing to block their NACA vents when the air craft is parked, =0Aespecially whilst out in the open when away from home b ase?=0A-=0AMany thanks in anticipation for your responses.=0A-=0AKind r egards=0A-=0A-=0APatrick Pulis=0AAdelaide, South Australia=0A#40299 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:29 PM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: NACA Vent Insect Screens Ain't seen no bugs come in yet.... those suckers have trouble making it thr ough =0Athe naca at 170 kts... alive that is.....plus it seems the naca is kind of-in =0Athe airflow of the prop, so they're probably already in lit tle pieces before =0Athey-even get to the naca.-- While on the ground you can always just shut the =0Avent off from the inside.=0ADon McDonald =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Patrick Pulis =0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, May 2, 2011 7:57:38 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: NACA Vent Insect Screens=0A=0A=0ACould any one please indicate if the fitting of screens (as per other aircraft =0Asuc h as the EADS Tobago which has a similar vent configuration to the RV-10) t o =0Aprevent the entry of insects through the NACA air vents is warranted? =0A-=0AI'll be fitting an additional two NACA vents behind the cabin top to feed ram =0Aair into the overhead console and will have four in total. =0A-=0AWhat are people doing to block their NACA vents when the aircraft is parked, =0Aespecially whilst out in the open when away from home base? =0A-=0AMany thanks in anticipation for your responses.=0A-=0AKind regar ds=0A-=0A-=0APatrick Pulis=0AAdelaide, South Australia=0A#40299=0A- ============== =0A ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:55:23 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: NACA Vent Insect Screens From: "greghale" I have never had a bug fly in the front naca vents on my RV8 or RV10. Don't really know why this is, but flying in rain no water came into the 8 or 10 either. The fuselage covers that Bruce Aircraft Covers provide, cover the front vents when installed. Greg... -------- Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH www.nwacaptain.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338686#338686 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:59 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: travel covers From: Michael Kraus Used Bruce's on my RV-4 for years, loved it. Bought one fir my RV-10, but h aven't used it yet. -Mike Kraus Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: > What is everyone using for a travel cover, and do you like it? I know the re's the Van's lightweight one, Flightline has one, and I've heard of Bruce' s. Will probably also get some cowl inlet plugs as well. > > Thanks... > > -Rob > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying, Phase 1 > http://kochman.net/N819K > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:59 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Retrofit locking fuel caps From: "dmaib@me.com" I have the "blue streak" problem that Robin mentions, with my Newton caps. The fuel siphons out of the key slot right after takeoff, when the tanks are filled to the top. The Newton caps are sold by Van's. The Andair caps look almost identical to the Newton caps. I have not heard if the Andair caps have the same problem, but would like to know. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338688#338688 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:28 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: travel covers From: "dmaib@me.com" I am using the Flightline Interiors cover and am very happy with it. I got cowl plugs from Van's and they are fine, as well. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338690#338690 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:06:25 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: NACA Vent Insect Screens From: "dmaib@me.com" I put screens in mine on the advice of my Tech Counselor. Easy to install and they give me some peace of mind when the airplane is parked and a vent is left open. I've never seen any bug carcasses stuck in the screen, so they must not be getting in the NACA vent in flight. :D -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338693#338693 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:51 PM PST US From: Rick Lark Subject: RV10-List: fuel tank countersinks Hi all - I'm just about to countersink the tank skins to the rear baffle, and can't figure out why we are to leave every 10th hole untouched only to go back la ter and then complete the countersink and rivetting etc.- Sounds like it has something to do with alignment??? - I must be missing something.- Can anyone explain? - Thx,- Rick - #40956 Southampton, Ont - I ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:11:27 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: [LML] Re: Beware update From: "dmaib@me.com" johngoodman wrote: > How about giving us a little info on the subject - I haven't a clue on what you're talking about. > John Me too! What is the story here? -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338697#338697 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:08 PM PST US From: "John Cumins" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: NACA Vent Insect Screens David Can you post pics of your screen. Curious how you secure them. John 40864 Wings rear spars -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dmaib@me.com Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 7:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: NACA Vent Insect Screens I put screens in mine on the advice of my Tech Counselor. Easy to install and they give me some peace of mind when the airplane is parked and a vent is left open. I've never seen any bug carcasses stuck in the screen, so they must not be getting in the NACA vent in flight. :D -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338693#338693 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:10:17 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: travel covers I've only tried 3. The Bruce's that I've tried were the full thick cover. To me, they're way too big to travel with but they're excellent covers to use if you wanted something for longer term storage. If they make a travel cover I'm not familiar with it. I've tried the Cleaveland one, which was too thin and simple for my taste....it was not much in the line of protection. I own the Flightline one. I like that it's small, light, packs well, and has a dark inside and light outside color. It's amazing that in the hot sun, the inside of the plane is dark and kept cool, and it is thick enough to provide some good sun and other protection, yet thin enough to travel with. She also sells cowl plugs, so you can get those at the same time and save shipping. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD On 5/2/2011 6:54 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: > What is everyone using for a travel cover, and do you like it? I know > there's the Van's lightweight one, Flightline has one, and I've heard of > Bruce's. Will probably also get some cowl inlet plugs as well. > Thanks... > -Rob > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying, Phase 1 > http://kochman.net/N819K > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:08 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: [LML] Re: Beware update I think it was in the original post I replied to, but here, I'll post it below my signature. It's from the Lancair list. Also, if this post referrs to a fax, see the attached .pdf that has some inaccuracies in it that the CBP are using. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD --------------------------------------- As most of you on the list know we had an incident in April here in St. Louis where one of our own was "stopped" by local police based on a "tip" from Customs and Border Patrol. Here is an update to that story: Bob Rickard (who was the individual stopped) and I have received more emails from other Lancair pilots who have been stopped as well based on "tips" from CBP. So this is not an isolated incident. I contacted AOPA, my congressman's staff, and CBP themselves. AOPA's Craig Spence is presently working this issue on our behalf. He already had ascheduled meeting with CBP on Wednesday, so he brought this subject up. He said that CBP wants to be the new "skycop". He conveyed our concerns to them --targeting GA for poloce searches and the issue of the fax that is sent to police agencies justifying detaining pilots. Mr. Spence told them that the fax has errors on it and agreed to help them correct those. On the issue of tracking GA flights and detaining pilots, Mr. Spence said the CBP is not budging. He believes we need to take this to Congressional leaders --he said we are in for a long battle with CBP. The day after Mr. Spence's meeting I received two phone calls from CBP (so it is true about smelly stuff rolling downhill). The first call was from "Carlos" at CBP HQ. Carlos works in Gen. Mike Kostelnik's office in DC. Kostelnik, a retired AF two star, is the head of the CBP Air and Marine Center. Carlos wanted to know what our concerns were and I repeated that we did not like getting stopped based on bogus information. He wanted to know how I was certain CBP was behind these stops (he implied they had nothing to do with it) and I said it was from information from the local police and the fax AMOC sent to them. (Ah, the truth and evidence is so great) He was pretty agitated during our conversation and said if we were stopped and the police questioned us then we should tell them what they wanted to know. I said I disagreed (Fifth Amendment) . I gave him the specifics of Bobaloos stop two weeks ago and he agreed to look into it. I said that in the best light their intell is either unvetted or their analyis is poor. He disagreed (of course) and gave many other reasons (all bogus) as to why their intel was good. He said it could have been because the aircraft was a prior drug aircraft. I replied that would be pretty difficult since I built it, flew it and then sold it to Col. Rickard. I said that in the worst light --their folks are making up stories to get the local police to stop GA pilots--for the crime of ....flying. Of course he about blew a gasket. I asked him to tell me where CBP got this information about Bob carrying a fugitive. He replied that is a matter of national security and could not tell me. A couple of hours later I receive a phone call from Tony C. at the CBP AMOC in Riverside, CA asking again about my concerns. Again I expressed the same and while he was very polite and cordial and appears to be a dedicated public servant doing a tough job I reiterated that law abiding GA pilots do not enjoy getting stopped by law enforcement based on seemingly bogus information. Tony said they are just trying to "put their eyes on people"--meaning us. I remarked that there has to be a better way of doing that than surrounding a pilot with 6 police cars and ten officers. He said they have tough job catching bad guys. I said that that they need to do a better job screening their intel. It seemed both he and Carlos went back and forth on whether the intel came from internal sources or external ones. At one point he said people were calling their hotline with tips -- so I challenged him as to how someone would know the Mr. McCrae was on Bob's airplane and then called them in Riverside to report it. The story seemed to change to they had strong intel internally. Never an admission that they screwed up. Just more reasons why their intel is solid. Even at one point denying it is their intel-- "it comes from somewhere else-- they are just the middle man." Tony said they are all ex military and are all pilots so I pointed oujt that the fax has numerous errors and the FARs contains no language allowing detention of a pilot for failing to have his medical or logbook on his person (look for that to change as CBP will probably write criminal regulations re: pilots) . The whole time I could hear a beep every ten seconds or so probably indicating I was being recorded. Althoug Tony was pleasant there was no progress on this issue. None. I spoke with my congressman's senior staffer as well. I relayed the details of the issue to her and she seemed sincerely interested. She said it is best to generate a letter from our organizations (we are) and forward that with a personal note to all of our congressmen. She said I should be carefull so that I don't become a target. All for now. Jeff "Bullseye" Edwards On 5/2/2011 9:08 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "dmaib@me.com" > > > johngoodman wrote: >> How about giving us a little info on the subject - I haven't a clue on what you're talking about. >> John > > > Me too! What is the story here? > > -------- > David Maib > RV-10 #40559 > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:58 PM PST US From: John Gonzalez Subject: RV10-List: traveling covers, for really traveling I will be towing my 10 quite a distance to have the paint done. The plane will be on top of a flat bed trailer behind my F-250. I have mud flaps on the rear end of the truck and the plane's windscreen will be prett y high up away from the road. Would it be wiser to leave the windscreen and windows coverred in the paint on plexiglass protector solution or do that in addition=2C purchase a cove r like the Bruce's cover and cover it. Without seeing the covers=2C I am co ncerned that it will not fit tight enough and in the wind of 55mph will scr atch the plexiglass while it flaps around. Thoughts?? Thanks=2C John ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 10:17:34 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: traveling covers, for really traveling Personally I wouldn't use a cover on the highway. Could do more damage than good if things start buzzing, flapping, and part of it pops off. I'd leave that protector gunk on the windshield and just keep the speed down...maybe drive 45, and just take it easy on the trip. You don't say how many miles you're going, but, even if it's 50 miles, it would be smoother just to stay slower. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 5/2/2011 11:31 PM, John Gonzalez wrote: > I will be towing my 10 quite a distance to have the paint done. > > The plane will be on top of a flat bed trailer behind my F-250. I have > mud flaps on the rear end of the truck and the plane's windscreen will > be pretty high up away from the road. > > Would it be wiser to leave the windscreen and windows coverred in the > paint on plexiglass protector solution or do that in addition, purchase > a cover like the Bruce's cover and cover it. Without seeing the covers, > I am concerned that it will not fit tight enough and in the wind of > 55mph will scratch the plexiglass while it flaps around. > > Thoughts?? > > Thanks, > > John > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.