---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/09/11: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:30 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B coverage Map and email (Tim Olson) 2. 02:13 PM - ACK E-04 ELT w/GPS install write-up (Tim Olson) 3. 02:22 PM - "Must Fix" items (Tim Olson) 4. 02:56 PM - PMA8000BT software upgrade available (Tim Olson) 5. 02:58 PM - Cowl Pin Fix and Alternator Maintenance (Tim Olson) 6. 03:08 PM - Re: ACK E-04 ELT w/GPS install write-up (Sean Stephens) 7. 03:49 PM - Re: ACK E-04 ELT w/GPS install write-up (Tim Olson) 8. 03:50 PM - Re: "Must Fix" items (Rob Kochman) 9. 03:59 PM - Email name change (Chuck Weyant) 10. 04:20 PM - Re: "Must Fix" items (Tim Olson) 11. 04:20 PM - Section 39-10 WD-1010 Neutral Position? (Sean Stephens) 12. 04:41 PM - Re: ACK E-04 ELT w/GPS install write-up (Sean Stephens) 13. 05:59 PM - Re: Section 39-10 WD-1010 Neutral Position? (rv10flyer) 14. 06:07 PM - Re: ACK E-04 ELT w/GPS install write-up (Tim Olson) 15. 06:46 PM - Re: Section 39-10 WD-1010 Neutral Position? (Sean Stephens) 16. 08:00 PM - Re: Re: Section 39-10 WD-1010 Neutral Position? (Sean Stephens) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:34 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: ADS-B coverage Map and email From: Tim Olson Nah, the source is the FAA approved source....but I bet they're worried about how up to date your data is, because ground level coverage will be poor, so much of the data wouldn't be available until airborne for many people, and won't be available airborne until you're high enough, in other areas, sometimes as high as 5000-18000ft. That's the problem with ground based weather, and why I feel for the dedicated traveler, satellite based WX is always the better choice. These days though, for every bit of data, everyone is all "CYA" and put disclaimers on everything. Tim On May 8, 2011, at 10:48 PM, "Bob Turner" wrote: > > Thanks Tim. > > I love the disclaimer. Apparently FAA weather (METARs and TAFs) obtained thru an FAA source (ADS-B) cannot be used to satisfy FAA regulatory requirements! > > I can hear all the conversations with FSS/ Flight Watch now: "Well, we've got the Notam and TAF for our destination, but it doesn't count and we need to hear it from you" (!) > > -------- > Bob Turner > RV-10 QB > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339281#339281 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:13:25 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: ACK E-04 ELT w/GPS install write-up I got done with the ELT install. It wasn't 100% snag free, but it's all done and great now. I thought I'd provide plenty of detail for many of you who will be upgrading down the road. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20110506/index.html -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:22:20 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items This weekend I got a little keyboard time... I thought I'd quick whip up something that other RV-10 builders could use because so many people run into similar situation, but on safety items I'd like to point out the big ones right away. So, I typed up the Top 10 "must fix" items for RV-10 builders. Things that basically (in my opinion) everybody should either address or become deeply familiar with. There are of course others, but I'd like your input to feed my memory. On this particular write-up I'd like to only include safety things....not just "better" things, like better windshields, fairings, and things like that. Those are more "options". These are things that personally I think should be given serious thought to...almost mandatory, to some extent, although some people are well into flying and some things may be less easy for them to want to do. My goal is that new builders would just go directly into doing things to the best level of safety. Provide your input on this thread as you wish and I'll consider adding things. A couple more posts to come... -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:56:32 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: PMA8000BT software upgrade available As many of you know, I upgraded to the PMA8000BT audio panel last fall. Not too long ago I heard there was a software upgrade for it, and so I quick jumped on it. Now that I've flown it a few times, I thought I'd do a quickie write-up, because it's kind of nice, and for some PMA8000BT owners it's free. Also, I heard that some PMA8000B owners can actually now get an upgrade to BT...something that wasn't even an option back when I wanted to buy this. At any rate, here's the write-up on the latest software rev for the PMA8000BT. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20110425/index.html It does include a different faceplate. -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:58:56 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: Cowl Pin Fix and Alternator Maintenance One more write-up for you... Recently I got to the worn-out point on my horizontal cowl pin retainer hinges. It prompted me to change things a bit, and although it's not perfect for me yet, I think it's far nicer than per-plans verbatim. Anyway, there are even better ways to do things but this is real quick and simple if you're stuck having built per-plans as I did. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20110506/index.html Also, I learned the hard way about how tight to tighten alternator belts, so I now have a new alternator at 725 hours. I added a little write-up on that, showing how to check proper belt tension. I hope that helps others down the road so you don't have the same problem. -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:08:45 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: Re: RV10-List: ACK E-04 ELT w/GPS install write-up One thing that stood out for me is that it seems like a bit of "custom" work to get GPS hooked up and integrated. I am a bit surprised by this. I haven't read the manuals for the E-04 yet so I may be missing something but I assumed for a package of this price that there would be some kind of external connector already on the unit to accomplish this. -Sean #40303 On 5/9/11 3:31 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > I got done with the ELT install. It wasn't 100% snag > free, but it's all done and great now. I thought I'd > provide plenty of detail for many of you who will > be upgrading down the road. > > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20110506/index.html > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: ACK E-04 ELT w/GPS install write-up From: Tim Olson It does have an external connector, but in ANY installation, the GPS integration would be custom...so they send you the mating connector so you can hook it to whatever GPS. So i think they did it fine. I can't imagine it being any other way unless it had BUILT IN GPS, which of course would make it adding just a simple antenna....but even then, how long should the cable come? See, it's all "custom" and as usual, a retrofit is more work than if you just put it in on the initial build. I think many certified plane folk would just plug it in to their 430/480/530 and that would be easier other than on the radio config side....but you'd still have to pull the wire and solder on the plug. If they delivered it with 10' of twisted triple, many people would STILL need to extend the cable to their panel. It's the nature of the beast. The only real disappointment is that IMHO they should provide the hard drive jumper with the unit. Of course, on a certified install you'd use the 9600 baud aviation gps and not need a jumper, but I think they should send you one (or two) for custom/experimental installs like mine. Other than wiring the plug and connecting it, there wasn't really any required setup to the GPS....I just included the details of my situation for others who may be in that situation too....my original GPS was even more non standard. So from a GPS standpoint, my work was way harder than the average guy, and the certified folk probably have it even simpler. Tim On May 9, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Sean Stephens wrote: > > One thing that stood out for me is that it seems like a bit of "custom" work to get GPS hooked up and integrated. I am a bit surprised by this. I haven't read the manuals for the E-04 yet so I may be missing something but I assumed for a package of this price that there would be some kind of external connector already on the unit to accomplish this. > > -Sean #40303 > > On 5/9/11 3:31 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >> >> I got done with the ELT install. It wasn't 100% snag >> free, but it's all done and great now. I thought I'd >> provide plenty of detail for many of you who will >> be upgrading down the road. >> >> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20110506/index.html >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:50:10 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items From: Rob Kochman I think you meant to include a link: http://myrv10.com/tips/mods/Top_10_MustFixes.html Added to #2 (door latch): I'd strongly recommend a very small gap between the door and the receiver block--like 1/8" or so. This makes it such that to get the front pin in and the rear pin out, the door has to be *really* twisted. Mine is built this way, and it would be really difficult (but not impossible) to improperly latch the door with this setup. -Rob On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > This weekend I got a little keyboard time... > > I thought I'd quick whip up something that other RV-10 > builders could use because so many people run into similar > situation, but on safety items I'd like to point out the > big ones right away. > > So, I typed up the Top 10 "must fix" items for RV-10 builders. > Things that basically (in my opinion) everybody should either > address or become deeply familiar with. > > There are of course others, but I'd like your input to feed > my memory. On this particular write-up I'd like to only > include safety things....not just "better" things, like > better windshields, fairings, and things like that. Those > are more "options". These are things that personally I > think should be given serious thought to...almost mandatory, > to some extent, although some people are well into flying > and some things may be less easy for them to want to do. > My goal is that new builders would just go directly into > doing things to the best level of safety. > > Provide your input on this thread as you wish and I'll > consider adding things. > > A couple more posts to come... > > -- > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying, Phase 1 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:59:06 PM PST US From: "Chuck Weyant" Subject: RV10-List: Email name change Please delete cweyant@impulse.net Please delete chuck@chuckdirect.com Please Add chuckweyant@impulse.net ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:20:02 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items From: Tim Olson Ooops! Yep, sorry! Tim On May 9, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: > I think you meant to include a link: http://myrv10.com/tips/mods/Top_10_Mu stFixes.html > > Added to #2 (door latch): I'd strongly recommend a very small gap between t he door and the receiver block--like 1/8" or so. This makes it such that to get the front pin in and the rear pin out, the door has to be *really* twis ted. Mine is built this way, and it would be really difficult (but not impo ssible) to improperly latch the door with this setup. > > -Rob > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > This weekend I got a little keyboard time... > > I thought I'd quick whip up something that other RV-10 > builders could use because so many people run into similar > situation, but on safety items I'd like to point out the > big ones right away. > > So, I typed up the Top 10 "must fix" items for RV-10 builders. > Things that basically (in my opinion) everybody should either > address or become deeply familiar with. > > There are of course others, but I'd like your input to feed > my memory. On this particular write-up I'd like to only > include safety things....not just "better" things, like > better windshields, fairings, and things like that. Those > are more "options". These are things that personally I > think should be given serious thought to...almost mandatory, > to some extent, although some people are well into flying > and some things may be less easy for them to want to do. > My goal is that new builders would just go directly into > doing things to the best level of safety. > > Provide your input on this thread as you wish and I'll > consider adding things. > > A couple more posts to come... > > -- > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > > > www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List" target="_blank">http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > Matt Dralle, List Admin. > ==== > > > > > > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying, Phase 1 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:20:02 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: RV10-List: Section 39-10 WD-1010 Neutral Position? In section 39-10 Step 2 where you are setting the correct rod end bearing lengths for the elevator push tubes it states to set the WD-1010 control column and the elevator bellcrank to their neutral positions which allows you to adjust the rod end bearings for the correct length. They tell you in section 11 how to set the bellcrank by the battery to neutral, but they do not mention the appropriate way to determine neutral for the WD-1010 control column? -Sean #40303 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:41:51 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: ACK E-04 ELT w/GPS install write-up From: Sean Stephens Ah, so a new install would just be solder cups on the connector and maybe setting baud rate with regards to the GPS. That makes perfect sense. See? Knew I was missing something. -Sean Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > It does have an external connector, but in ANY installation, the GPS integration would be custom...so they send you the mating connector so you can hook it to whatever GPS. So i think they did it fine. I can't imagine it being any other way unless it had BUILT IN GPS, which of course would make it adding just a simple antenna....but even then, how long should the cable come? See, it's all "custom" and as usual, a retrofit is more work than if you just put it in on the initial build. I think many certified plane folk would just plug it in to their 430/480/530 and that would be easier other than on the radio config side....but you'd still have to pull the wire and solder on the plug. If they delivered it with 10' of twisted triple, many people would STILL need to extend the cable to their panel. It's the nature of the beast. > > The only real disappointment is that IMHO they should provide the hard drive jumper with the unit. Of course, on a certified install you'd use the 9600 baud aviation gps and not need a jumper, but I think they should send you one (or two) for custom/experimental installs like mine. > > Other than wiring the plug and connecting it, there wasn't really any required setup to the GPS....I just included the details of my situation for others who may be in that situation too....my original GPS was even more non standard. So from a GPS standpoint, my work was way harder than the average guy, and the certified folk probably have it even simpler. > Tim > > > > > On May 9, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Sean Stephens wrote: > >> >> One thing that stood out for me is that it seems like a bit of "custom" work to get GPS hooked up and integrated. I am a bit surprised by this. I haven't read the manuals for the E-04 yet so I may be missing something but I assumed for a package of this price that there would be some kind of external connector already on the unit to accomplish this. >> >> -Sean #40303 >> >> On 5/9/11 3:31 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>> >>> I got done with the ELT install. It wasn't 100% snag >>> free, but it's all done and great now. I thought I'd >>> provide plenty of detail for many of you who will >>> be upgrading down the road. >>> >>> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20110506/index.html >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:59:49 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Section 39-10 WD-1010 Neutral Position? From: "rv10flyer" See step 1. Fabricate the measuring jig. That sets WD-1010 to neutral. Keep it along with your aileron bellcrank jig for future use. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08 Bldr# 40983 SB Started 12/1/09. Fuselage Sec 46 Eng mount/Gear- 1359 hrs to date. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339373#339373 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:07:32 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: ACK E-04 ELT w/GPS install write-up From: Tim Olson Yep, exactly. But, most people won't even have to set baud rate...theirs will automatically be right if they use a panel mount GPS. Tim On May 9, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Sean Stephens wrote: > > Ah, so a new install would just be solder cups on the connector and maybe setting baud rate with regards to the GPS. That makes perfect sense. See? Knew I was missing something. > > -Sean > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 9, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > >> >> It does have an external connector, but in ANY installation, the GPS integration would be custom...so they send you the mating connector so you can hook it to whatever GPS. So i think they did it fine. I can't imagine it being any other way unless it had BUILT IN GPS, which of course would make it adding just a simple antenna....but even then, how long should the cable come? See, it's all "custom" and as usual, a retrofit is more work than if you just put it in on the initial build. I think many certified plane folk would just plug it in to their 430/480/530 and that would be easier other than on the radio config side....but you'd still have to pull the wire and solder on the plug. If they delivered it with 10' of twisted triple, many people would STILL need to extend the cable to their panel. It's the nature of the beast. >> >> The only real disappointment is that IMHO they should provide the hard drive jumper with the unit. Of course, on a certified install you'd use the 9600 baud aviation gps and not need a jumper, but I think they should send you one (or two) for custom/experimental installs like mine. >> >> Other than wiring the plug and connecting it, there wasn't really any required setup to the GPS....I just included the details of my situation for others who may be in that situation too....my original GPS was even more non standard. So from a GPS standpoint, my work was way harder than the average guy, and the certified folk probably have it even simpler. >> Tim >> >> >> >> >> On May 9, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Sean Stephens wrote: >> >>> >>> One thing that stood out for me is that it seems like a bit of "custom" work to get GPS hooked up and integrated. I am a bit surprised by this. I haven't read the manuals for the E-04 yet so I may be missing something but I assumed for a package of this price that there would be some kind of external connector already on the unit to accomplish this. >>> >>> -Sean #40303 >>> >>> On 5/9/11 3:31 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>>> >>>> I got done with the ELT install. It wasn't 100% snag >>>> free, but it's all done and great now. I thought I'd >>>> provide plenty of detail for many of you who will >>>> be upgrading down the road. >>>> >>>> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20110506/index.html >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:23 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: RV10-List: Re: Section 39-10 WD-1010 Neutral Position? Ok, I think I understand this now. They threw me off in the plans in Step 2 by saying "Check the neutral position of the WD-1010..." Actually, the gauge fabricated in Step 1 determines the neutral position, so not sure why they would state that. -Sean On 5/9/11 3:16 PM, Sean Stephens wrote: > In section 39-10 Step 2 where you are setting the correct rod end > bearing lengths for the elevator push tubes it states to set the > WD-1010 control column and the elevator bellcrank to their neutral > positions which allows you to adjust the rod end bearings for the > correct length. > > They tell you in section 11 how to set the bellcrank by the battery to > neutral, but they do not mention the appropriate way to determine > neutral for the WD-1010 control column? > > -Sean #40303 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:00:15 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Section 39-10 WD-1010 Neutral Position? Yep. I re-read it and was just confused by the first sentence of Step 2. -Sean On 5/9/11 7:44 PM, rv10flyer wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "rv10flyer" > > See step 1. Fabricate the measuring jig. That sets WD-1010 to neutral. Keep it along with your aileron bellcrank jig for future use. > > -------- > Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08 > Bldr# 40983 SB Started 12/1/09. > Fuselage Sec 46 Eng mount/Gear- 1359 hrs to date. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339373#339373 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.