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1. 07:13 AM - Re: "Must Fix" items (johngoodman)
2. 09:44 AM - Re: "Must Fix" items (Larry Rosen)
3. 10:00 AM - Re: "Must Fix" items (Tim Olson)
4. 01:29 PM - Re: "Must Fix" items (Kelly McMullen)
5. 02:47 PM - Re: "Must Fix" items (gary)
6. 04:13 PM - Re: "Must Fix" items (Tony Woods)
7. 05:27 PM - airworthiness inspection (Chris)
8. 05:48 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (Seano)
9. 05:48 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (Robin Marks)
10. 05:52 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (n801bh@netzero.com)
11. 06:49 PM - fuel line routing with Airflow Performance FI (bob-tcw)
12. 06:49 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (Eric_Kallio)
13. 07:08 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (Chris)
14. 07:09 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (Marcus Cooper)
15. 07:12 PM - Re: Re: airworthiness inspection (Kelly McMullen)
16. 07:24 PM - Re: "Must Fix" items (Kelly McMullen)
17. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: airworthiness inspection (Tim Olson)
18. 07:50 PM - Re: Re: airworthiness inspection / airline fees (Robin Marks)
19. 08:07 PM - Re: fuel line routing with Airflow Performance FI (Deems Davis)
20. 08:14 PM - Re: Re: airworthiness inspection (Michael Kraus)
21. 08:45 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (Roger Standley)
22. 09:30 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (John Gonzalez)
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| Subject: | Re: "Must Fix" items |
Tim,
A good list but you should mention Vertical Power on number ten. They have safety
trim built in.
John
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#40572 Painted and assembled. Panel almost ready.
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| Subject: | Re: "Must Fix" items |
Scott S. brought it up a while ago, but the lock nuts for the break
assembly holding the Break Torque Plate should be metal lock nuts not
the AN365-428. Plans 46-4. The breaks get hot and the nylon lock nuts
will loose there locking ability over time.
Larry Rosen
On 5/9/2011 4:30 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> This weekend I got a little keyboard time...
>
> I thought I'd quick whip up something that other RV-10
> builders could use because so many people run into similar
> situation, but on safety items I'd like to point out the
> big ones right away.
>
> So, I typed up the Top 10 "must fix" items for RV-10 builders.
> Things that basically (in my opinion) everybody should either
> address or become deeply familiar with.
>
> There are of course others, but I'd like your input to feed
> my memory. On this particular write-up I'd like to only
> include safety things....not just "better" things, like
> better windshields, fairings, and things like that. Those
> are more "options". These are things that personally I
> think should be given serious thought to...almost mandatory,
> to some extent, although some people are well into flying
> and some things may be less easy for them to want to do.
> My goal is that new builders would just go directly into
> doing things to the best level of safety.
>
> Provide your input on this thread as you wish and I'll
> consider adding things.
>
> A couple more posts to come...
>
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| Subject: | Re: "Must Fix" items |
Great point, I'll add that too!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 5/10/2011 11:40 AM, Larry Rosen wrote:
>
> Scott S. brought it up a while ago, but the lock nuts for the break
> assembly holding the Break Torque Plate should be metal lock nuts not
> the AN365-428. Plans 46-4. The breaks get hot and the nylon lock nuts
> will loose there locking ability over time.
>
> Larry Rosen
>
> On 5/9/2011 4:30 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>> This weekend I got a little keyboard time...
>>
>> I thought I'd quick whip up something that other RV-10
>> builders could use because so many people run into similar
>> situation, but on safety items I'd like to point out the
>> big ones right away.
>>
>> So, I typed up the Top 10 "must fix" items for RV-10 builders.
>> Things that basically (in my opinion) everybody should either
>> address or become deeply familiar with.
>>
>> There are of course others, but I'd like your input to feed
>> my memory. On this particular write-up I'd like to only
>> include safety things....not just "better" things, like
>> better windshields, fairings, and things like that. Those
>> are more "options". These are things that personally I
>> think should be given serious thought to...almost mandatory,
>> to some extent, although some people are well into flying
>> and some things may be less easy for them to want to do.
>> My goal is that new builders would just go directly into
>> doing things to the best level of safety.
>>
>> Provide your input on this thread as you wish and I'll
>> consider adding things.
>>
>> A couple more posts to come...
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: "Must Fix" items |
Or briefly, one should use metal lock nuts to avoid having brakes that
break. ;-)
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Larry Rosen <N205EN@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Scott S. brought it up a while ago, but the lock nuts for the break assembly
> holding the Break Torque Plate should be metal lock nuts not the AN365-428.
> Plans 46-4. The breaks get hot and the nylon lock nuts will loose there
> locking ability over time.
>
> Larry Rosen
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| Subject: | "Must Fix" items |
Actually you do want breaks that break, What good are breaks that don't
break!
Gary Specketer
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items
Or briefly, one should use metal lock nuts to avoid having brakes that
break. ;-)
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Larry Rosen <N205EN@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Scott S. brought it up a while ago, but the lock nuts for the break
assembly
> holding the Break Torque Plate should be metal lock nuts not the
AN365-428.
> Plans 46-4. The breaks get hot and the nylon lock nuts will loose there
> locking ability over time.
>
> Larry Rosen
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| Subject: | "Must Fix" items |
*brakes that don't break
:-)
Tony
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 9:43 a.m.
Subject: RE: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items
Actually you do want breaks that break, What good are breaks that don't
break!
Gary Specketer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items
Or briefly, one should use metal lock nuts to avoid having brakes that
break. ;-)
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Larry Rosen <N205EN@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Scott S. brought it up a while ago, but the lock nuts for the break
assembly
> holding the Break Torque Plate should be metal lock nuts not the
AN365-428.
> Plans 46-4. The breaks get hot and the nylon lock nuts will loose there
> locking ability over time.
>
> Larry Rosen
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| Subject: | airworthiness inspection |
Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)?
-Chris
#40072 (interior)
Sir,
I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification. You
will need to get with a DAR.
If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call.
Thanks,
Aviation Safety Inspector
FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC.
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| Subject: | Re: airworthiness inspection |
No, but I was told they will come at their convenience which could take
months.
Ironically, I paid for the DAR to come out (400$) and the FAA came out
too for five hours and they inspected together.
I guess the DAR's get two inspections from the FAA per year.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 6:23 PM
Subject: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection
Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)?
-Chris
#40072 (interior)
Sir,
I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification.
You will need to get with a DAR.
If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call.
Thanks,
Aviation Safety Inspector
FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC.
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| Subject: | airworthiness inspection |
Chris,
I think you left off the last part of the communication=85
>>If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call before our phones
are disconnected.
>>Thanks,
>>Aviation Safety Inspector
>>FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC.
Robin
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*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2011 5:24 PM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* RV10-List: airworthiness inspection
Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)?
-Chris
#40072 (interior)
Sir,
I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification. You
will need to get with a DAR.
If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call.
Thanks,
Aviation Safety Inspector
FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC.
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| Subject: | Re: airworthiness inspection |
Kinda makes you want to go right out and pay your taxes, don't it ???
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Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
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From: "Chris" <toaster73@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection
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-Chris
#40072 (interior)
Sir,
I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification. You
will need to get with a DAR.
If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call.
Thanks,
Aviation Safety Inspector
FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC.
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| Subject: | fuel line routing with Airflow Performance FI |
Fellow builders I=99m looking for some clear photos of the fuel
line routing used to get from the mechanical fuel pump to the fuel
controller throttle body when using the Airflow Performance fuel
injection system on the IO-540. The black and white photos in their
install manual are nearly useless. I=99ve done some basic
searching of the usual suspect=99s web sites but haven=99t
found what I=99m looking for (both routing and clamp placement
ideas). I=99m also interested in the routing of the throttle
and mixture cable. At present it appears that the best layout is on
the left side of the engine (under cylinders 2-4-6) for both push
cables, would appreciate any input folks have regarding this set-up.
Thanks for the input!
Bob Newman
40176
under the cowling
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| Subject: | Re: airworthiness inspection |
My airport is 16 miles from the FSDO. They flat out said they couldn't do it. I
even fly with a pilot in the Guard that worked for the FAA full time and even
he couldn't get them out there. We are not their target audience. Paint Delta
on the side of your plane though, and see how fast they show up.
Eric
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| Subject: | airworthiness inspection |
hah! I did leave off names o protect the guilty!
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:43 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection
Chris,
I think you left off the last part of the communication.
>>If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call before our phones
are disconnected.
>>Thanks,
>>Aviation Safety Inspector
>>FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC.
Robin
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 5:24 PM
Subject: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection
Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)?
-Chris
#40072 (interior)
Sir,
I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification. You
will need to get with a DAR.
If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call.
Thanks,
Aviation Safety Inspector
FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC.
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| Subject: | Re: airworthiness inspection |
I've had 5 inspections of this type, never a response like that. Hard
to believe he could "be of MORE help".
DARs are good, but not free like the FSDO inspector is supposed to be.
Marcus
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On May 10, 2011, at 8:23 PM, Chris wrote:
> Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)?
> -Chris
> #40072 (interior)
>
> Sir,
>
> I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification.
You will need to get with a DAR.
>
> If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aviation Safety Inspector
> FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC.
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: airworthiness inspection |
Well, if you like to live on the rogue side of the tracks, you could
just tell them that if they don't think it is important enough for them
to inspect, you agree with them, and will just go fly it. ;-))
Or you could say you were contacting your congressional delegation to
find out why inspecting new aircraft doesn't merit their attention, when
the highest percentage of accidents come from experimental aircraft. No
FAA region likes responding to congressional inquiries.
On 5/10/2011 6:46 PM, Eric_Kallio wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio"<scout019@msn.com>
>
> My airport is 16 miles from the FSDO. They flat out said they couldn't do it.
I even fly with a pilot in the Guard that worked for the FAA full time and even
he couldn't get them out there. We are not their target audience. Paint Delta
on the side of your plane though, and see how fast they show up.
>
> Eric
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| Subject: | Re: "Must Fix" items |
Well, for the picky...brakes that brake well and don't break. Which
should break this thread about brakes.
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Tony Woods <twoods@sesa.af> wrote:
>
> *brakes that don't break
>
> :-)
>
> Tony
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| Subject: | Re: airworthiness inspection |
Hmmmm, I'd agree, but, then they may take it out on you in a toooo
detailed inspection that never makes it to sign-off. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 5/10/2011 9:09 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> Well, if you like to live on the rogue side of the tracks, you could
> just tell them that if they don't think it is important enough for them
> to inspect, you agree with them, and will just go fly it. ;-))
> Or you could say you were contacting your congressional delegation to
> find out why inspecting new aircraft doesn't merit their attention, when
> the highest percentage of accidents come from experimental aircraft. No
> FAA region likes responding to congressional inquiries.
>
> On 5/10/2011 6:46 PM, Eric_Kallio wrote:
>>
>> My airport is 16 miles from the FSDO. They flat out said they couldn't
>> do it. I even fly with a pilot in the Guard that worked for the FAA
>> full time and even he couldn't get them out there. We are not their
>> target audience. Paint Delta on the side of your plane though, and see
>> how fast they show up.
>>
>> Eric
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: airworthiness inspection / airline fees |
RV10-List: Re: airworthiness inspection
Paint Delta on the side of your plane and you can charge $25.00 first bag,
$35.00 second bag.
I flew 3 plus myself east with a total *airport* cost one way not including
tickets of $450. 4 bags all underweight and one 7 pound dog, plus tips for
wheelchair assistance for my 82 year old Mother-in-law. I remember when $450
was a trip to Disneyland. Not passing through the airport.
Robin
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*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric_Kallio
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2011 6:46 PM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* RV10-List: Re: airworthiness inspection
My airport is 16 miles from the FSDO. They flat out said they couldn't do
it. I even fly with a pilot in the Guard that worked for the FAA full time
and even he couldn't get them out there. We are not their target audience.
Paint Delta on the side of your plane though, and see how fast they show up.
Eric
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| Subject: | Re: airworthiness inspection |
FAA in Detroit (YIP) drove 46 miles to do the airworthiness inspection last Monday
for my RV-10.... But I have been working with them since last Fall. Just
like everything else, takes proper planning.
Look for my first flight soon....
-Mike Kraus
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> wrote:
>
> My airport is 16 miles from the FSDO. They flat out said they couldn't do it.
I even fly with a pilot in the Guard that worked for the FAA full time and even
he couldn't get them out there. We are not their target audience. Paint Delta
on the side of your plane though, and see how fast they show up.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339507#339507
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: airworthiness inspection |
It's probably more like:
>>If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call before I retire
next month at 54 with full salary for life.
>>Thanks,
>>Aviation Safety Inspector
>>FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris<mailto:toaster73@embarqmail.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection
hah! I did leave off names o protect the guilty!
From:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matron
ics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Robin Marks
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:43 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection
Chris,
I think you left off the last part of the communication.
>>If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call before our
phones are disconnected.
>>Thanks,
>>Aviation Safety Inspector
>>FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC.
Robin
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-serve
r@matronics.com>] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 5:24 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection
Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)?
-Chris
#40072 (interior)
Sir,
I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification.
You will need to get with a DAR.
If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call.
Thanks,
Aviation Safety Inspector
FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC.
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| Subject: | airworthiness inspection |
No that's airline pilots and it is forced retirement and 20% of the old pen
sion benefits. Give 600% raise to corporate.
Wait and see if Paul Ryan's plans comes on board. Talk about not in the bud
get.
We will give tax breaks to the the wealthiest Americans for their super siz
ed RVs complete with fully equipped bathrooms. When the few lower class cit
izens(folks) who actually can afford a car or the gas for it want to stop a
long the side of the road to go #2=2C there will be no funding to keep the
bathrooms open at the rest stops.
No problem=2C the Rvs will be equipped with an outdoor shower to rinse the
wealthy RV's boots free of all the excrement laying on the road=2C especial
ly excrement from all them dam illegal immigrants. Poo is Poo.
What a waste of money those NOAA tsunami buoys and sensors are=2C that is u
ntil everyone on the coast needs them. To hell with the people on the coast
! The same could be said about NOAA and the tornado warning system...to hel
l with the inlanders. Let it all go private=2C where's the profit? Or if so
=2C more like extortion.
No free lunch brother. Everybody cries when it effect their interest=2C but
complains about the cost when it has nothing to do with their needs.
No simple solutions and don't assume there is.
Too much bureaucracy...we need Gaddafi=2C he might be looking for a new pla
ce to set up his tent.
Looks like I took the bait!
From: taildragon@msn.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection
It's probably more like:
>>If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call before I retire ne
xt month at 54 with full salary for life.
>>Thanks=2C
>>Aviation Safety Inspector
>>FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
Sent: Tuesday=2C May 10=2C 2011 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection
hah! I did leave off names o protect the guilty!
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Tuesday=2C May 10=2C 2011 8:43 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection
Chris=2C
I think you left off the last part of the communication.
>>If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call before our phones
are disconnected.
>>Thanks=2C
>>Aviation Safety Inspector
>>FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC.
Robin
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Tuesday=2C May 10=2C 2011 5:24 PM
Subject: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection
Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)?
-Chris
#40072 (interior)
Sir=2C
I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification. You wi
ll need to get with a DAR.
If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call.
Thanks=2C
Aviation Safety Inspector
FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC.
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