---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/10/11: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:13 AM - Re: "Must Fix" items (johngoodman) 2. 09:44 AM - Re: "Must Fix" items (Larry Rosen) 3. 10:00 AM - Re: "Must Fix" items (Tim Olson) 4. 01:29 PM - Re: "Must Fix" items (Kelly McMullen) 5. 02:47 PM - Re: "Must Fix" items (gary) 6. 04:13 PM - Re: "Must Fix" items (Tony Woods) 7. 05:27 PM - airworthiness inspection (Chris) 8. 05:48 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (Seano) 9. 05:48 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (Robin Marks) 10. 05:52 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (n801bh@netzero.com) 11. 06:49 PM - fuel line routing with Airflow Performance FI (bob-tcw) 12. 06:49 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (Eric_Kallio) 13. 07:08 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (Chris) 14. 07:09 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (Marcus Cooper) 15. 07:12 PM - Re: Re: airworthiness inspection (Kelly McMullen) 16. 07:24 PM - Re: "Must Fix" items (Kelly McMullen) 17. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: airworthiness inspection (Tim Olson) 18. 07:50 PM - Re: Re: airworthiness inspection / airline fees (Robin Marks) 19. 08:07 PM - Re: fuel line routing with Airflow Performance FI (Deems Davis) 20. 08:14 PM - Re: Re: airworthiness inspection (Michael Kraus) 21. 08:45 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (Roger Standley) 22. 09:30 PM - Re: airworthiness inspection (John Gonzalez) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:21 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: "Must Fix" items From: "johngoodman" Tim, A good list but you should mention Vertical Power on number ten. They have safety trim built in. John -------- #40572 Painted and assembled. Panel almost ready. N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339422#339422 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:07 AM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items Scott S. brought it up a while ago, but the lock nuts for the break assembly holding the Break Torque Plate should be metal lock nuts not the AN365-428. Plans 46-4. The breaks get hot and the nylon lock nuts will loose there locking ability over time. Larry Rosen On 5/9/2011 4:30 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > This weekend I got a little keyboard time... > > I thought I'd quick whip up something that other RV-10 > builders could use because so many people run into similar > situation, but on safety items I'd like to point out the > big ones right away. > > So, I typed up the Top 10 "must fix" items for RV-10 builders. > Things that basically (in my opinion) everybody should either > address or become deeply familiar with. > > There are of course others, but I'd like your input to feed > my memory. On this particular write-up I'd like to only > include safety things....not just "better" things, like > better windshields, fairings, and things like that. Those > are more "options". These are things that personally I > think should be given serious thought to...almost mandatory, > to some extent, although some people are well into flying > and some things may be less easy for them to want to do. > My goal is that new builders would just go directly into > doing things to the best level of safety. > > Provide your input on this thread as you wish and I'll > consider adding things. > > A couple more posts to come... > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:00:36 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items Great point, I'll add that too! Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 5/10/2011 11:40 AM, Larry Rosen wrote: > > Scott S. brought it up a while ago, but the lock nuts for the break > assembly holding the Break Torque Plate should be metal lock nuts not > the AN365-428. Plans 46-4. The breaks get hot and the nylon lock nuts > will loose there locking ability over time. > > Larry Rosen > > On 5/9/2011 4:30 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >> >> This weekend I got a little keyboard time... >> >> I thought I'd quick whip up something that other RV-10 >> builders could use because so many people run into similar >> situation, but on safety items I'd like to point out the >> big ones right away. >> >> So, I typed up the Top 10 "must fix" items for RV-10 builders. >> Things that basically (in my opinion) everybody should either >> address or become deeply familiar with. >> >> There are of course others, but I'd like your input to feed >> my memory. On this particular write-up I'd like to only >> include safety things....not just "better" things, like >> better windshields, fairings, and things like that. Those >> are more "options". These are things that personally I >> think should be given serious thought to...almost mandatory, >> to some extent, although some people are well into flying >> and some things may be less easy for them to want to do. >> My goal is that new builders would just go directly into >> doing things to the best level of safety. >> >> Provide your input on this thread as you wish and I'll >> consider adding things. >> >> A couple more posts to come... >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:29:48 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items From: Kelly McMullen Or briefly, one should use metal lock nuts to avoid having brakes that break. ;-) On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Larry Rosen wrote: > > Scott S. brought it up a while ago, but the lock nuts for the break assembly > holding the Break Torque Plate should be metal lock nuts not the AN365-428. > Plans 46-4. The breaks get hot and the nylon lock nuts will loose there > locking ability over time. > > Larry Rosen ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:37 PM PST US From: "gary" Subject: RE: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items Actually you do want breaks that break, What good are breaks that don't break! Gary Specketer -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 3:26 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items Or briefly, one should use metal lock nuts to avoid having brakes that break. ;-) On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Larry Rosen wrote: > > Scott S. brought it up a while ago, but the lock nuts for the break assembly > holding the Break Torque Plate should be metal lock nuts not the AN365-428. > Plans 46-4. The breaks get hot and the nylon lock nuts will loose there > locking ability over time. > > Larry Rosen ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:35 PM PST US From: "Tony Woods" Subject: RE: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items *brakes that don't break :-) Tony -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 9:43 a.m. Subject: RE: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items Actually you do want breaks that break, What good are breaks that don't break! Gary Specketer -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 3:26 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items Or briefly, one should use metal lock nuts to avoid having brakes that break. ;-) On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Larry Rosen wrote: > > Scott S. brought it up a while ago, but the lock nuts for the break assembly > holding the Break Torque Plate should be metal lock nuts not the AN365-428. > Plans 46-4. The breaks get hot and the nylon lock nuts will loose there > locking ability over time. > > Larry Rosen ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:40 PM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)? -Chris #40072 (interior) Sir, I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification. You will need to get with a DAR. If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call. Thanks, Aviation Safety Inspector FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:09 PM PST US From: "Seano" Subject: Re: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection No, but I was told they will come at their convenience which could take months. Ironically, I paid for the DAR to come out (400$) and the FAA came out too for five hours and they inspected together. I guess the DAR's get two inspections from the FAA per year. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 6:23 PM Subject: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)? -Chris #40072 (interior) Sir, I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification. You will need to get with a DAR. If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call. Thanks, Aviation Safety Inspector FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:24 PM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection Chris, I think you left off the last part of the communication=85 >>If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call before our phones are disconnected. >>Thanks, >>Aviation Safety Inspector >>FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC. Robin Do Not Archive *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2011 5:24 PM *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com *Subject:* RV10-List: airworthiness inspection Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)? -Chris #40072 (interior) Sir, I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification. You will need to get with a DAR. If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call. Thanks, Aviation Safety Inspector FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC. * * * * ===========* ===========* ===========* ===========* * * ------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:52:35 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection Kinda makes you want to go right out and pay your taxes, don't it ??? do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Chris" Subject: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)? -Chris #40072 (interior) Sir, I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification. You will need to get with a DAR. If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call. Thanks, Aviation Safety Inspector FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC. ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======= ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4dc9dcaaed7f435462est04vuc ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:03 PM PST US From: "bob-tcw" Subject: RV10-List: fuel line routing with Airflow Performance FI Fellow builders I=99m looking for some clear photos of the fuel line routing used to get from the mechanical fuel pump to the fuel controller throttle body when using the Airflow Performance fuel injection system on the IO-540. The black and white photos in their install manual are nearly useless. I=99ve done some basic searching of the usual suspect=99s web sites but haven=99t found what I=99m looking for (both routing and clamp placement ideas). I=99m also interested in the routing of the throttle and mixture cable. At present it appears that the best layout is on the left side of the engine (under cylinders 2-4-6) for both push cables, would appreciate any input folks have regarding this set-up. Thanks for the input! Bob Newman 40176 under the cowling ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:07 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: airworthiness inspection From: "Eric_Kallio" My airport is 16 miles from the FSDO. They flat out said they couldn't do it. I even fly with a pilot in the Guard that worked for the FAA full time and even he couldn't get them out there. We are not their target audience. Paint Delta on the side of your plane though, and see how fast they show up. Eric Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339507#339507 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:29 PM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: RE: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection hah! I did leave off names o protect the guilty! From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:43 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection Chris, I think you left off the last part of the communication. >>If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call before our phones are disconnected. >>Thanks, >>Aviation Safety Inspector >>FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC. Robin Do Not Archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 5:24 PM Subject: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)? -Chris #40072 (interior) Sir, I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification. You will need to get with a DAR. If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call. Thanks, Aviation Safety Inspector FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC. = the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-L ist ================ http://forums.matronics.com ================ -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.137 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:40 PM PST US From: Marcus Cooper Subject: Re: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection I've had 5 inspections of this type, never a response like that. Hard to believe he could "be of MORE help". DARs are good, but not free like the FSDO inspector is supposed to be. Marcus do not archive On May 10, 2011, at 8:23 PM, Chris wrote: > Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)? > -Chris > #40072 (interior) > > Sir, > > I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification. You will need to get with a DAR. > > If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call. > > Thanks, > > Aviation Safety Inspector > FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC. > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:53 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: airworthiness inspection Well, if you like to live on the rogue side of the tracks, you could just tell them that if they don't think it is important enough for them to inspect, you agree with them, and will just go fly it. ;-)) Or you could say you were contacting your congressional delegation to find out why inspecting new aircraft doesn't merit their attention, when the highest percentage of accidents come from experimental aircraft. No FAA region likes responding to congressional inquiries. On 5/10/2011 6:46 PM, Eric_Kallio wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio" > > My airport is 16 miles from the FSDO. They flat out said they couldn't do it. I even fly with a pilot in the Guard that worked for the FAA full time and even he couldn't get them out there. We are not their target audience. Paint Delta on the side of your plane though, and see how fast they show up. > > Eric ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:01 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Must Fix" items From: Kelly McMullen Well, for the picky...brakes that brake well and don't break. Which should break this thread about brakes. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Tony Woods wrote: > > *brakes that don't break > > :-) > > Tony ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:24 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: airworthiness inspection Hmmmm, I'd agree, but, then they may take it out on you in a toooo detailed inspection that never makes it to sign-off. :) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 5/10/2011 9:09 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > Well, if you like to live on the rogue side of the tracks, you could > just tell them that if they don't think it is important enough for them > to inspect, you agree with them, and will just go fly it. ;-)) > Or you could say you were contacting your congressional delegation to > find out why inspecting new aircraft doesn't merit their attention, when > the highest percentage of accidents come from experimental aircraft. No > FAA region likes responding to congressional inquiries. > > On 5/10/2011 6:46 PM, Eric_Kallio wrote: >> >> My airport is 16 miles from the FSDO. They flat out said they couldn't >> do it. I even fly with a pilot in the Guard that worked for the FAA >> full time and even he couldn't get them out there. We are not their >> target audience. Paint Delta on the side of your plane though, and see >> how fast they show up. >> >> Eric > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:50:56 PM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: airworthiness inspection / airline fees RV10-List: Re: airworthiness inspection Paint Delta on the side of your plane and you can charge $25.00 first bag, $35.00 second bag. I flew 3 plus myself east with a total *airport* cost one way not including tickets of $450. 4 bags all underweight and one 7 pound dog, plus tips for wheelchair assistance for my 82 year old Mother-in-law. I remember when $450 was a trip to Disneyland. Not passing through the airport. Robin Do Not Archive *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric_Kallio *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2011 6:46 PM *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com *Subject:* RV10-List: Re: airworthiness inspection My airport is 16 miles from the FSDO. They flat out said they couldn't do it. I even fly with a pilot in the Guard that worked for the FAA full time and even he couldn't get them out there. We are not their target audience. Paint Delta on the side of your plane though, and see how fast they show up. Eric Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339507#339507 ------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:33 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: fuel line routing with Airflow Performance FI ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:14:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: airworthiness inspection From: Michael Kraus FAA in Detroit (YIP) drove 46 miles to do the airworthiness inspection last Monday for my RV-10.... But I have been working with them since last Fall. Just like everything else, takes proper planning. Look for my first flight soon.... -Mike Kraus Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Eric_Kallio" wrote: > > My airport is 16 miles from the FSDO. They flat out said they couldn't do it. I even fly with a pilot in the Guard that worked for the FAA full time and even he couldn't get them out there. We are not their target audience. Paint Delta on the side of your plane though, and see how fast they show up. > > Eric > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339507#339507 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:45:27 PM PST US From: "Roger Standley" Subject: Re: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection It's probably more like: >>If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call before I retire next month at 54 with full salary for life. >>Thanks, >>Aviation Safety Inspector >>FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 7:05 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection hah! I did leave off names o protect the guilty! From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:43 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection Chris, I think you left off the last part of the communication. >>If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call before our phones are disconnected. >>Thanks, >>Aviation Safety Inspector >>FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC. Robin Do Not Archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 5:24 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)? -Chris #40072 (interior) Sir, I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification. You will need to get with a DAR. If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call. Thanks, Aviation Safety Inspector FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC. = the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV1 0-List ================ http://forums.matronics.com ================ -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.137 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comht tp://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:30:12 PM PST US From: John Gonzalez Subject: RE: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection No that's airline pilots and it is forced retirement and 20% of the old pen sion benefits. Give 600% raise to corporate. Wait and see if Paul Ryan's plans comes on board. Talk about not in the bud get. We will give tax breaks to the the wealthiest Americans for their super siz ed RVs complete with fully equipped bathrooms. When the few lower class cit izens(folks) who actually can afford a car or the gas for it want to stop a long the side of the road to go #2=2C there will be no funding to keep the bathrooms open at the rest stops. No problem=2C the Rvs will be equipped with an outdoor shower to rinse the wealthy RV's boots free of all the excrement laying on the road=2C especial ly excrement from all them dam illegal immigrants. Poo is Poo. What a waste of money those NOAA tsunami buoys and sensors are=2C that is u ntil everyone on the coast needs them. To hell with the people on the coast ! The same could be said about NOAA and the tornado warning system...to hel l with the inlanders. Let it all go private=2C where's the profit? Or if so =2C more like extortion. No free lunch brother. Everybody cries when it effect their interest=2C but complains about the cost when it has nothing to do with their needs. No simple solutions and don't assume there is. Too much bureaucracy...we need Gaddafi=2C he might be looking for a new pla ce to set up his tent. Looks like I took the bait! From: taildragon@msn.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection It's probably more like: >>If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call before I retire ne xt month at 54 with full salary for life. >>Thanks=2C >>Aviation Safety Inspector >>FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Sent: Tuesday=2C May 10=2C 2011 7:05 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection hah! I did leave off names o protect the guilty! From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Tuesday=2C May 10=2C 2011 8:43 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection Chris=2C I think you left off the last part of the communication. >>If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call before our phones are disconnected. >>Thanks=2C >>Aviation Safety Inspector >>FSDO AEA-39 Greensboro NC. Robin Do Not Archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Tuesday=2C May 10=2C 2011 5:24 PM Subject: RV10-List: airworthiness inspection Anyone ever get this type of response from FSDO (see below)? -Chris #40072 (interior) Sir=2C I was informed that we do not have a budget for this certification. You wi ll need to get with a DAR. If I can be of more help please don't hesitate to call. 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