---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/12/11: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:58 AM - Re: "Must Fix" items (woxofswa) 2. 04:26 AM - Re: Re: "Must Fix" items (Larry Rosen) 3. 05:08 AM - Re: Re: "Must Fix" items (Tim Olson) 4. 05:21 AM - Re: Re: "Must Fix" items (David Leikam) 5. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: "Must Fix" items (Rob Kochman) 6. 08:50 AM - Re: Re: "Must Fix" items (pilotdds) 7. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: "Must Fix" items (Patrick Thyssen) 8. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: airworthiness inspection (Bruce Johnson) 9. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: airworthiness inspection (Bruce Johnson) 10. 09:23 AM - Re: Re: "Must Fix" items (Rob Kochman) 11. 04:11 PM - tow bar (lbgjb10) 12. 05:35 PM - Re: "Must Fix" items (g34u) 13. 06:52 PM - Another "smoke in the cockpit" crash (non-RV10) (Tim Olson) 14. 07:55 PM - Re: Another "smoke in the cockpit" crash (non-RV10) (Phillip Perry) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:51 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: "Must Fix" items From: "woxofswa" Great thread and project! One thing that I am planning on doing is to cut two holes into the tunnel cover for snap-in cup holders. This would allow quick and easy inspection of the tunnel area, even in flight, and also the ability to discharge a fire extinguisher directly into the tunnel if necessary. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, finishing kit in progress. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339652#339652 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:26:03 AM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: "Must Fix" items Would defrost fans qualify as a "Must Fix" item? Probably not in the top 10, but your list may need to be expanded. Larry ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: "Must Fix" items From: Tim Olson I don't think I'd put them as a MUST because they would be loosley tied to safety....but I can put them below under highly suggested. Tim On May 12, 2011, at 6:21 AM, Larry Rosen wrote: > > Would defrost fans qualify as a "Must Fix" item? Probably not in the top 10, but your list may need to be expanded. > > Larry > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:35 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: "Must Fix" items From: David Leikam I'd like to see pictures of how you do that. David Leikam RV10 Flying do not archive On May 12, 2011, at 2:55 AM, woxofswa wrote: > > Great thread and project! > > One thing that I am planning on doing is to cut two holes into the tunnel cover for snap-in cup holders. > > This would allow quick and easy inspection of the tunnel area, even in flight, and also the ability to discharge a fire extinguisher directly into the tunnel if necessary. > > -------- > Myron Nelson > Mesa, AZ > Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, finishing kit in progress. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339652#339652 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:00 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: "Must Fix" items From: Rob Kochman Speaking of the tunnel cover, I strongly recommend cutting the forward tunnel cover in half, just ahead of the fuel selector. It's a really easy modification, enabling you to remove the forward half of the cover without removing the seats or fuel selector. Though not directly safety related, I'd still throw it in that category because it makes you much more likely to frequently check the tunnel for fuel leaks or other problems. Here's an in-progress picture: http://kochman.net/N819K/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/img_5089.jpg As an aside, you might notice in the above picture that the brake lines (coming out of the tunnel, near the firewall) are close to the edge of the tunnel cover. I didn't notice this before flying, but now at 25 hours, there's a significant cut in the left brake line. It's going to be an enormous task to replace that line now--basically figuring i'm going to have to remove most of the fuel system to enable access. With just over 10 hours to go in phase 1, this is the last thing I want to be doing. Anyway, something to look for, especially since it would have been an easy 5-minute job to enlarge the opening. -Rob On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:18 AM, David Leikam wrote: > > I'd like to see pictures of how you do that. > > David Leikam > RV10 > Flying > > > do not archive > > > On May 12, 2011, at 2:55 AM, woxofswa wrote: > > > > > Great thread and project! > > > > One thing that I am planning on doing is to cut two holes into the tunnel > cover for snap-in cup holders. > > > > This would allow quick and easy inspection of the tunnel area, even in > flight, and also the ability to discharge a fire extinguisher directly into > the tunnel if necessary. > > > > -------- > > Myron Nelson > > Mesa, AZ > > Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, > finishing kit in progress. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339652#339652 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying, Phase 1 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:26 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: "Must Fix" items From: pilotdds For whatever it is worth I would recommend protecting the spars from the ru dder cable-I covered my cables with tygon-I have seen two instances of very minor spar abrasion but there is potential for serious problems that can b e easily prevented. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Kochman Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 8:34 am Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: "Must Fix" items Speaking of the tunnel cover, I strongly recommend cutting the forward tunn el cover in half, just ahead of the fuel selector. It's a really easy modi fication, enabling you to remove the forward half of the cover without remo ving the seats or fuel selector. Though not directly safety related, I'd s till throw it in that category because it makes you much more likely to fre quently check the tunnel for fuel leaks or other problems. Here's an in-progress picture: http://kochman.net/N819K/wp-content/uploads/ 2009/03/img_5089.jpg As an aside, you might notice in the above picture that the brake lines (co ming out of the tunnel, near the firewall) are close to the edge of the tun nel cover. I didn't notice this before flying, but now at 25 hours, there' s a significant cut in the left brake line. It's going to be an enormous t ask to replace that line now--basically figuring i'm going to have to remov e most of the fuel system to enable access. With just over 10 hours to go in phase 1, this is the last thing I want to be doing. Anyway, something t o look for, especially since it would have been an easy 5-minute job to enl arge the opening. -Rob On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:18 AM, David Leikam wrote: I'd like to see pictures of how you do that. David Leikam RV10 Flying do not archive On May 12, 2011, at 2:55 AM, woxofswa wrote: > > Great thread and project! > > One thing that I am planning on doing is to cut two holes into the tunnel cover for snap-in cup holders. > > This would allow quick and easy inspection of the tunnel area, even in fl ight, and also the ability to discharge a fire extinguisher directly into t he tunnel if necessary. > > -------- > Myron Nelson > Mesa, AZ > Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, fini shing kit in progress. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339652#339652 > > =================== ; Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"; target="_blank">http:/ /=== http://forums.mle, List Admin. ==== -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying, Phase 1 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying, Phase 1 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K -= - The RV10-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:17 AM PST US From: Patrick Thyssen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: "Must Fix" items -You could put a splice just below the cover. I would think you might hav e a inch to spare if not, just make a longer top piece. Patrick Thyssen Just my two cents --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Rob Kochman wrote: From: Rob Kochman Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: "Must Fix" items Speaking of the tunnel cover, I strongly recommend cutting the forward tunn el cover in half, just ahead of the fuel selector.- It's a really easy mo dification, enabling you to remove the forward half of the cover without re moving the seats or fuel selector.- Though not directly safety related, I 'd still throw it in that category because it makes you much more likely to frequently check the tunnel for fuel leaks or other problems.=0A=0A-=0AH ere's an in-progress picture: http://kochman.net/N819K/wp-content/uploads/2 009/03/img_5089.jpg=0A-=0AAs an aside, you might notice in the above pict ure that the brake lines (coming out of the tunnel, near the firewall) are close to the edge of the tunnel cover.- I didn't notice this before flyin g, but now at 25 hours, there's a significant cut in the left brake line. - It's going to be an enormous task to replace that line now--basically f iguring i'm going to have to remove most of the fuel system to enable acces s.- With just over 10 hours to go in phase 1, this is the last thing I wa nt to be doing.- Anyway, something to look for, especially since it would have been an easy 5-minute job to enlarge the opening.=0A=0A-=0A-Rob =0AOn Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:18 AM, David Leikam wro te: =0A I'd like to see pictures of how you do that. David Leikam RV10 Flying do not archive =0A On May 12, 2011, at 2:55 AM, woxofswa wrote: > > Great thread and project! =0A> > One thing that I am planning on doing is to cut two holes into the tunnel cover for snap-in cup holders. > > This would allow quick and easy inspection of the tunnel area, even in fl ight, and also the ability to discharge a fire extinguisher directly into t he tunnel if necessary. =0A> > -------- > Myron Nelson > Mesa, AZ > Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, fini shing kit in progress. > > > Read this topic online here: =0A> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339652#339652 > > =0A=================== =0A=0A=0A; Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, =0A="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List" target="_blank">http ://=== =0A http://forums.mle, List Admin. =0A==== =0A -- =0ARob Kochman RV-10 Flying, Phase 1=0AWoodinville, WA=0Ahttp://kochman.net/N819K =0A=0A ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:34 AM PST US From: Bruce Johnson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: airworthiness inspection I'm sure either one of those response's would make your eventual inspection a =0Adream. But it would be fun to get their reaction.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____ ___________________________=0AFrom: Kelly McMullen =0A Re: RV10-List: Re: airworthiness inspection=0A=0A--> RV10-List message pos ted by: Kelly McMullen =0A=0AWell, if you like to live on the rogue side of the tracks, you could just tell =0Athem that if they don't think it is important enough for them to inspect, you =0Aagree with t hem, and will just go fly it. ;-))=0AOr you could say you were contacting y our congressional delegation to find out =0Awhy inspecting new aircraft doe sn't merit their attention, when the highest =0Apercentage of accidents com e from experimental aircraft. No FAA region likes =0Aresponding to congress ional inquiries.=0A=0AOn 5/10/2011 6:46 PM, Eric_Kallio wrote:=0A> -->- R V10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio"=0A> =0A> My air port is 16 miles from the FSDO. They flat out said they couldn't do it. I =0A>even fly with a pilot in the Guard that worked for the FAA full time an d even he =0A>couldn't get them out there. We are not their target audience . Paint Delta on =0A>the side of your plane though, and see how fast they s ==================== ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:55 AM PST US From: Bruce Johnson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: airworthiness inspection Gary did mine too, very thorough and he is a good guy.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______ __________________________=0AFrom: John Ackerman =0A : Re: RV10-List: Re: airworthiness inspection=0A=0A--> RV10-List message po sted by: John Ackerman =0A=0AHere's another 2 cents worth.=0A=0AI wanted to have all the experienced eyes I could get look over my 10 before =0Aflight. A couple of those sets of eyes were friends who we re airworthiness =0Ainspectors from the local FSDO. These guys looked at th e plane individually, at =0Aleast once for more than three hours, and one p erson looked at it at several =0Astages of construction. They did this at n o charge, and on their own time. =0ABelieve me, it was really appreciated. Even though there was not an awful lot =0Afound, I still got really good su ggestions and in-depth discussions.=0A=0AWe discussed whether to have one o f the FAA airworthiness inspectors do the =0Ainspection, and decided instea d to employ Gary Towner, an uncommonly highly =0Aregarded (by everyone I ta lked to, and that was a least a dozen folks who should =0Aknow) DAR. That w as a really good call. Although the main function of the =0Ainspection is t o get the paperwork all straight, (what can I say? It's not a =0Aperfect wo rld) Gary did an excellent physical inspection of the airplane, and =0Awas in no hurry to get it over with.- By the way - when one of the FSDO folks =0Awanted his own RV inspected, guess who got the job?- Yep, Gary did. =0A=0AThe way the system works is that the overall cost of having DARs do t he actual =0Ainspections and the FSDO guys look over their shoulders occasi onally is much =0Aless than having the FSDO guys do the actual inspections. It cost me personally =0Afour hundred more bucks this way than if the FAA did the inspection "for free", =0Abut frankly, it was worth it to me. It al so cost the rest of you poor taxpayers =0Aa lot less than the direct and ov erhead costs of employing the additional =0Ainspectors that would be requir ed.=0A=0AIIRC, one of us posted that he had both a DAR and an airworthiness inspector =0Afrom the FAA at his inspection. The function of the FAA guys (as far as =0Aairworthiness inspections goes) is to make sure that the DARs do an inspection =0Athat meets the FAA's standards. This means they witnes s inspections being done =0Afrom time to time.It works the same way with ai rman certification - the job is =0Aalmost always done by a Designated Pilot Examiner, sometimes with an FAA =0AOperations Inspector looking over his/h er shoulder.- Not a bad system at all.=0A=0AJohn Ackerman=0A=0A=0A=0AOn M ay 10, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Michael Kraus wrote:=0A=0A> --> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Kraus =0A> =0A> FAA in Detro it (YIP) drove 46 miles to do the airworthiness inspection last =0A>Monday for my RV-10....- But I have been working with them since last Fall.- =0A>Just like everything else, takes proper planning.=0A> =0A> Look for my first flight soon....=0A> -Mike Kraus=0A> =0A> Sent from my iPhone=0A> =0A> On May 10, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Eric_Kallio" wrote:=0A> > =0A>> My airport is 16 miles from the FSDO. They flat out said they could n't do it. I =0A>>even fly with a pilot in the Guard that worked for the FA A full time and even he =0A>>couldn't get them out there. We are not their target audience. Paint Delta on =0A>>the side of your plane though, and see how fast they show up.=0A>> =0A>> Eric=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Read t his topic online here:=0A>> =0A>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php ?p=339507#339507=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A =========================0A ======================= ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:23:53 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: "Must Fix" items From: Rob Kochman Thanks, Patrick... Going to look into that tonight. Will be interesting to see if I can make a good cut and flare while under the panel like that :) On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Patrick Thyssen wrote: > You could put a splice just below the cover. I would think you might > have a inch to spare if not, just make a longer top piece. > Patrick Thyssen > Just my two cents > > > --- On *Thu, 5/12/11, Rob Kochman * wrote: > > > From: Rob Kochman > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: "Must Fix" items > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 10:29 AM > > > Speaking of the tunnel cover, I strongly recommend cutting the forward > tunnel cover in half, just ahead of the fuel selector. It's a really easy > modification, enabling you to remove the forward half of the cover without > removing the seats or fuel selector. Though not directly safety related, > I'd still throw it in that category because it makes you much more likely to > frequently check the tunnel for fuel leaks or other problems. > > Here's an in-progress picture: > http://kochman.net/N819K/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/img_5089.jpg > > As an aside, you might notice in the above picture that the brake lines > (coming out of the tunnel, near the firewall) are close to the edge of the > tunnel cover. I didn't notice this before flying, but now at 25 hours, > there's a significant cut in the left brake line. It's going to be an > enormous task to replace that line now--basically figuring i'm going to have > to remove most of the fuel system to enable access. With just over 10 hours > to go in phase 1, this is the last thing I want to be doing. Anyway, > something to look for, especially since it would have been an easy 5-minute > job to enlarge the opening. > > -Rob > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:18 AM, David Leikam > > wrote: > > > > > I'd like to see pictures of how you do that. > > David Leikam > RV10 > Flying > > > do not archive > > > On May 12, 2011, at 2:55 AM, woxofswa wrote: > > > > > > > Great thread and project! > > > > One thing that I am planning on doing is to cut two holes into the tunnel > cover for snap-in cup holders. > > > > This would allow quick and easy inspection of the tunnel area, even in > flight, and also the ability to discharge a fire extinguisher directly into > the tunnel if necessary. > > > > -------- > > Myron Nelson > > Mesa, AZ > > Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, > finishing kit in progress. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339652#339652 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =================== > ; Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List" target="_blank">http:// > === > http://forums.mle, List Admin. > ==== > > > > > > -- > > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying, Phase 1 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > ** > > * > > > * > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying, Phase 1 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:11:28 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: tow bar From: "lbgjb10" anybody use a 'nose dragger dragger' tow bar?? it says you need 3 inches of wheel clearance. anyone know how much clearance we have (I'm away from the hangar for a while) thanks. larry` -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339719#339719 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:22 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: "Must Fix" items From: "g34u" I will start my wings very soon and I wanted to get that better 5052-O aluminum tube. I could not tell which one I should get [Question] here is the link in spruce. Thank you in advance. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/search.php?query=5052-0&search=1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339722#339722 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:52:21 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: Another "smoke in the cockpit" crash (non-RV10) Just saw this today: http://www.eaa.org/news/2011/2011-05-12_warren_ridings.asp No details other than the article itself. ------- Text version ------- EAA Mourns the Loss of Bud Warren and Phyllis Ridings Father and daughter alternative engine builders May 12, 2011 On Saturday, May 7, Bud Warren and his daughter Phyllis Ridings, both of Geared Drives, were killed as a result of an airplane crash after departing their home airport, Lone Star Executive in Conroe Texas. They were en route to the Central Texas Airshow in Temple when they noticed smoke in the cockpit of the homebuilt Ravin 500 powered by a Geared Drives firewall forward installation. After declaring an emergency, the plane crashed and burst into flames in a wooded area just north of the field. The fiery crash happened about 9 a.m. a half-mile north of the field from which Bud and Phyllis had just departed on a planned 125-mile flight to Temple. Conroe is about 40 miles north of Houston. Bud (Elzie), 70, was acting as PIC when he reported smoke in the cockpit and declared an emergency. Phyllis, 52, was not a pilot. The plane was owned Loyd Woodward and had hundreds of succeful hours logged, including the trip Bud made from Conroe to AirVenture last year. The accident occurred as the plane was heading back to the field, crashing in a heavily wooded area. To reach the wreckage local firefighters and the Texas Forestry Service had to bulldoze a path. A friend of the family, John McFarling, said: He put it down the best place he could. A good pilot like Bud kept it out of somebody's house. He did exactly what he was supposed to. Phyllis, survived by two sons Craig Rushing and Brian Rushing, was a successful real estate agent before electing to become Buds personal assistant and work for Geared Drives full time. Bud Warren built his first motor at age 13 and since then had amassed an enviable record in the automobile racing community. His passion for speed was expressed by building and racing funny cars, boats, and most anything with wheels. His successful Warren Machine Shop business supported these fun activities that grew with time. Airplanes appeared as a means of keeping his hands on the business while increasing his racing presence on the West Coast. But there is much more to Buds legacy: He was a safety inspector for SEMA (Specialty Equipment Market Association); performed machine work on the NASA Gemini program; was a Commemorative Air Force aircraft restorer and pilot; and a licensed A&P mechanic. Bud began flight lessons in 1980 and has owned three Mooneys. But around 1990, concerns over potential engine failures brought him to consider an automotive conversion. His Chevy-powered Wheeler Express features his unique design of a gear-driven prop speed reduction unit (PSRU), which he refers to as a transmission. Buds PSRU is certainly not the first to use spur gears, but the uniqueness it brings is the automobile-style clutch with its centrifugal pressure plate engagement, keeping torsional vibration under control. The icing on the cake is the ability to install any number of certified constant-speed props. Buds prototype PSRU, as installed in his Wheeler Express, was flown in the Homebuilders Parade at AirVenture 2006. Bud flew the aircraft in the No. 2 position of 17 homebuilts. This was the beginning of a five-year run of attending the major fly-in events around the country, ending with the 2011 Sun n Fun Fly-in where Bud presented three educational forums, something he was always happy to do at any event he attended. Heres a list of aircraft that Bud created firewall-forward installations for: * RV-10 * Bearhawk * Glasair III * Legendary P-51 * Ravin 500 * Team Tango Foxtrot * Tango Two * Velocity Four years ago, Bud and Phyllis narrowly escaped the fiery wreckage of the Wheeler Express factory demonstrator that suffered an in-flight engine fire when a fuel line failed under the cowl. Bud was able to get the plane down safely and the occupants walked away as the plane was consumed. From the looks of the wreckage, it will be very difficult to find the origin of the smoke that caused Bud to declare an emergency and turn back to the airport. The May issue of EAA Experimenter will be dedicated to Bud and Phyllis, including several past articles about Bud and Phyllis successes with Geared Drives. -- Tim do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Another "smoke in the cockpit" crash (non-RV10) From: Phillip Perry Yeah that is a sad story. I was good friends with Bud and Phyllis and I stopped by to see them every couple of weeks just to say hi and see what contraption Bud was working on this week. I wasn't planning on using his FWF package but still enjoyed his ribbing and his friendship. I stopped by the airport today to see if I could find any of the old gang hanging out. All the hangar doors were pulled closed but Bud and Phyllis' cars were still where they left them. It's a sad time. Phil On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Just saw this today: > > http://www.eaa.org/news/2011/2011-05-12_warren_ridings.asp > > No details other than the article itself. > > ------- > Text version > ------- > > EAA Mourns the Loss of Bud Warren and Phyllis Ridings > Father and daughter alternative engine builders > > > May 12, 2011 =97On Saturday, May 7, Bud Warren and his daughter Phyllis > Ridings, both of Geared Drives, were killed as a result of an airplane cr ash > after departing their home airport, Lone Star Executive in Conroe Texas. > They were en route to the Central Texas Airshow in Temple when they notic ed > smoke in the cockpit of the homebuilt Ravin 500 powered by a Geared Drive s > firewall forward installation. After declaring an emergency, the plane > crashed and burst into flames in a wooded area just north of the field. > > The fiery crash happened about 9 a.m. a half-mile north of the field from > which Bud and Phyllis had just departed on a planned 125-mile flight to > Temple. Conroe is about 40 miles north of Houston. Bud (Elzie), 70, was > acting as PIC when he reported smoke in the cockpit and declared an > emergency. Phyllis, 52, was not a pilot. The plane was owned Loyd Woodwar d > and had hundreds of succeful hours logged, including the trip Bud made fr om > Conroe to AirVenture last year. > > The accident occurred as the plane was heading back to the field, crashin g > in a heavily wooded area. To reach the wreckage local firefighters and th e > Texas Forestry Service had to bulldoze a path. A friend of the family, Jo hn > McFarling, said: =93He put it down the best place he could. A good pilot like > Bud kept it out of somebody's house. He did exactly what he was supposed > to.=94 > > Phyllis, survived by two sons Craig Rushing and Brian Rushing, was a > successful real estate agent before electing to become Bud=92s personal > assistant and work for Geared Drives full time. > > Bud Warren built his first motor at age 13 and since then had amassed an > enviable record in the automobile racing community. His passion for speed > was expressed by building and racing funny cars, boats, and most anything > with wheels. His successful Warren Machine Shop business supported these fun > activities that grew with time. Airplanes appeared as a means of keeping his > hands on the business while increasing his racing presence on the West > Coast. > > But there is much more to Bud=92s legacy: He was a safety inspector for S EMA > (Specialty Equipment Market Association); performed machine work on the N ASA > Gemini program; was a Commemorative Air Force aircraft restorer and pilot ; > and a licensed A&P mechanic. > > Bud began flight lessons in 1980 and has owned three Mooneys. But around > 1990, concerns over potential engine failures brought him to consider an > automotive conversion. His Chevy-powered Wheeler Express features his uni que > design of a gear-driven prop speed reduction unit (PSRU), which he refers to > as a =93transmission.=94 > > Bud=92s PSRU is certainly not the first to use spur gears, but the unique ness > it brings is the automobile-style clutch with its centrifugal pressure pl ate > engagement, keeping torsional vibration under control. The icing on the c ake > is the ability to install any number of certified constant-speed props. > > Bud=92s prototype PSRU, as installed in his Wheeler Express, was flown in the > Homebuilders Parade at AirVenture 2006. Bud flew the aircraft in the No. 2 > position of 17 homebuilts. This was the beginning of a five-year run of > attending the major fly-in events around the country, ending with the 201 1 > Sun =92n Fun Fly-in where Bud presented three educational forums, somethi ng he > was always happy to do at any event he attended. > > Here=92s a list of aircraft that Bud created firewall-forward installatio ns > for: > > * RV-10 > * Bearhawk > * Glasair III > * Legendary P-51 > * Ravin 500 > * Team Tango Foxtrot > * Tango Two > * Velocity > > Four years ago, Bud and Phyllis narrowly escaped the fiery wreckage of th e > Wheeler Express factory demonstrator that suffered an in-flight engine fi re > when a fuel line failed under the cowl. Bud was able to get the plane dow n > safely and the occupants walked away as the plane was consumed. > > From the looks of the wreckage, it will be very difficult to find the > origin of the smoke that caused Bud to declare an emergency and turn back to > the airport. > > The May issue of EAA Experimenter will be dedicated to Bud and Phyllis, > including several past articles about Bud and Phyllis=92 successes with G eared > Drives. > > > -- > Tim > do not archive > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.