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     1. 10:21 AM - fuel pressure sensor (DLM)
     2. 10:41 AM - Re: fuel pressure sensor (Rob Kochman)
     3. 10:49 AM - Re: fuel pressure sensor (Rene Felker)
     4. 11:19 AM - fuel pressure sensor- Dynon specific (Pascal)
     5. 12:14 PM - Re: fuel pressure sensor (DLM)
     6. 01:42 PM - Re: fuel pressure sensor (DLM)
     7. 03:24 PM - Round SubPanel Doubler (Sean Stephens)
     8. 03:26 PM - Re: fuel pressure sensor- Dynon specific (Jesse Saint)
     9. 03:42 PM - Re: Round SubPanel Doubler (Stein Bruch)
    10. 03:59 PM - Re: Round SubPanel Doubler (Sean Stephens)
    11. 04:18 PM - Re: fuel pressure sensor (David)
    12. 04:22 PM - Re: Round SubPanel Doubler (Linn Walters)
    13. 05:02 PM - Re: Round SubPanel Doubler (Linn Walters)
    14. 09:03 PM - Re: fuel pressure sensor (DLM)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | fuel pressure sensor | 
      
      I have a GRT sensor which is occasionally providing a reading of 38 psi 
      which puts me into the out of limits condition for the Chelton displays. 
      Normal reading is about 29 psi. part total time is about 450 hours. 
      anyone else had sensor problems? I carry a replacement in the tool/parts 
      box so I can change it but trying to confirm that it needs to be 
      replaced. Engine continues to perform properly. 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: fuel pressure sensor | 
      
      Don't know if it's the same sensor, but my one from Dynon lasted about 25
      hours, before it started "oscillating" with the boost pump off.  Replaced
      it, and the problem was fixed... for about 5 hours.  Seeing the same issue
      again.
      
      
      On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:17 AM, DLM <dlm34077@q.com> wrote:
      
      >  I have a GRT sensor which is occasionally providing a reading of 38 psi
      > which puts me into the out of limits condition for the Chelton displays.
      > Normal reading is about 29 psi. part total time is about 450 hours. anyone
      > else had sensor problems? I carry a replacement in the tool/parts box so I
      > can change it but trying to confirm that it needs to be replaced. Engine
      > continues to perform properly.
      >
      > *
      >
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      >
      
      
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      Rob Kochman
      RV-10 Flying, Phase 1
      Woodinville, WA
      http://kochman.net/N819K
      
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| Subject:  | fuel pressure sensor | 
      
      My normal pressure is in the low 20's, but I saw some spikes after the first
      year...ended up being a faulty ground connection.  The crimp just was not
      good enough.  Worked fine ever since.  170 hours.
      
      
      Rene' Felker
      
      N423CF
      
      801-721-6080
      
      
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
      Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:18 AM
      Subject: RV10-List: fuel pressure sensor
      
      
      I have a GRT sensor which is occasionally providing a reading of 38 psi
      which puts me into the out of limits condition for the Chelton displays.
      Normal reading is about 29 psi. part total time is about 450 hours. anyone
      else had sensor problems? I carry a replacement in the tool/parts box so I
      can change it but trying to confirm that it needs to be replaced. Engine
      continues to perform properly. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | fuel pressure sensor- Dynon specific | 
      
      What did Dynon say about this? Being I have a Skyview I am concerned 
      about the reason for the oscillating.
      Thanks!
      Pascal
      
      From: Rob Kochman 
      Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:38 AM
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: fuel pressure sensor
      
      Don't know if it's the same sensor, but my one from Dynon lasted about 
      25 hours, before it started "oscillating" with the boost pump off.  
      Replaced it, and the problem was fixed... for about 5 hours.  Seeing the 
      same issue again.
      
      
      On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:17 AM, DLM <dlm34077@q.com> wrote:
      
        I have a GRT sensor which is occasionally providing a reading of 38 
      psi which puts me into the out of limits condition for the Chelton 
      displays. Normal reading is about 29 psi. part total time is about 450 
      hours. anyone else had sensor problems? I carry a replacement in the 
      tool/parts box so I can change it but trying to confirm that it needs to 
      be replaced. Engine continues to perform properly. 
      
      
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      Rob Kochman
      RV-10 Flying, Phase 1
      Woodinville, WA
      http://kochman.net/N819K
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: fuel pressure sensor | 
      
      have not decided what to do at this point but may look for an automotive 
      solution or a certified solution.
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Rob Kochman 
        To: rv10-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:38 AM
        Subject: Re: RV10-List: fuel pressure sensor
      
      
        Don't know if it's the same sensor, but my one from Dynon lasted about 
      25 hours, before it started "oscillating" with the boost pump off.  
      Replaced it, and the problem was fixed... for about 5 hours.  Seeing the 
      same issue again.
      
      
         
        On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:17 AM, DLM <dlm34077@q.com> wrote:
      
          I have a GRT sensor which is occasionally providing a reading of 38 
      psi which puts me into the out of limits condition for the Chelton 
      displays. Normal reading is about 29 psi. part total time is about 450 
      hours. anyone else had sensor problems? I carry a replacement in the 
      tool/parts box so I can change it but trying to confirm that it needs to 
      be replaced. Engine continues to perform properly. 
      
      
      get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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        Rob Kochman
        RV-10 Flying, Phase 1
        Woodinville, WA
        http://kochman.net/N819K
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: fuel pressure sensor | 
      
      I found that the VDO sensors used for oil and fuel pressure are 360004 
      and 360003 and are automotive senders. I checked with EI and found that 
      we are "locked in" to VDO sensors check for pressure. I did replaced egt 
      probes with EI and have had no further problems with egt probes burning 
      /disintegrating.
      http://www.jegs.com/p/VDO/VDO-Pressure-Senders/887192/10002/-1
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: DLM 
        To: rv10-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:17 AM
        Subject: RV10-List: fuel pressure sensor
      
      
        I have a GRT sensor which is occasionally providing a reading of 38 
      psi which puts me into the out of limits condition for the Chelton 
      displays. Normal reading is about 29 psi. part total time is about 450 
      hours. anyone else had sensor problems? I carry a replacement in the 
      tool/parts box so I can change it but trying to confirm that it needs to 
      be replaced. Engine continues to perform properly. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Round SubPanel Doubler | 
      
      
      For those that are using doublers in the subpanel for round holes cut 
      for wire pass-through, are you making your own using a fly cutter or are 
      there pre-made doublers available from some source?
      
      Thanks,
      
      -Sean #40303
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: fuel pressure sensor- Dynon specific | 
      
      I have never had a problem with the fuel pressure or oil pressure 
      sensors, with Dynon or any other system.  Dynon gets its ground through 
      the block bolted to the firewall, so it that is somehow isolated or not 
      making a good ground, that could possibly be causing it.
      
      Jesse Saint
      Saint Aviation, Inc.
      jesse@saintaviation.com
      C: 352-427-0285
      F: 815-377-3694
      
      On May 24, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Pascal wrote:
      
      > What did Dynon say about this? Being I have a Skyview I am concerned 
      about the reason for the oscillating.
      > Thanks!
      > Pascal
      >  
      > From: Rob Kochman
      > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:38 AM
      > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: RV10-List: fuel pressure sensor
      >  
      > Don't know if it's the same sensor, but my one from Dynon lasted about 
      25 hours, before it started "oscillating" with the boost pump off.  
      Replaced it, and the problem was fixed... for about 5 hours.  Seeing the 
      same issue again.
      > 
      > 
      >  
      > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:17 AM, DLM <dlm34077@q.com> wrote:
      > I have a GRT sensor which is occasionally providing a reading of 38 
      psi which puts me into the out of limits condition for the Chelton 
      displays. Normal reading is about 29 psi. part total time is about 450 
      hours. anyone else had sensor problems? I carry a replacement in the 
      tool/parts box so I can change it but trying to confirm that it needs to 
      be replaced. Engine continues to perform properly.
      > 
      > 
      > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
      > ttp://forums.matronics.com
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      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > -- 
      > Rob Kochman
      > RV-10 Flying, Phase 1
      > Woodinville, WA
      > http://kochman.net/N819K
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      > 
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Round SubPanel Doubler | 
      
      
      For something like a small round hole that you feed wires through, no
      doubler would really be needed...think of it as a "lightning hole"!
      
      Cheers,
      
      Stein 
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
      Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:21 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: Round SubPanel Doubler
      
      
      For those that are using doublers in the subpanel for round holes cut 
      for wire pass-through, are you making your own using a fly cutter or are 
      there pre-made doublers available from some source?
      
      Thanks,
      
      -Sean #40303
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Round SubPanel Doubler | 
      
      
      Ya, I was thinking something a bit larger.  Something a pre-built 
      harness (made by some reputable avionics shop :) ) with a DB25 already 
      on could pass through without pulling all the wires out of the connector.
      
      I know Vans recommends anything over 2 inch diameter be reinforced.
      
      On 5/24/11 5:40 PM, Stein Bruch wrote:
      > -->  RV10-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch"<stein@steinair.com>
      >
      > For something like a small round hole that you feed wires through, no
      > doubler would really be needed...think of it as a "lightning hole"!
      >
      > Cheers,
      >
      > Stein
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
      > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:21 PM
      > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RV10-List: Round SubPanel Doubler
      >
      > -->  RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens<sean@stephensville.com>
      >
      > For those that are using doublers in the subpanel for round holes cut
      > for wire pass-through, are you making your own using a fly cutter or are
      > there pre-made doublers available from some source?
      >
      > Thanks,
      >
      > -Sean #40303
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: fuel pressure sensor | 
      
      I just replaced my second GRT fuel sensor a few weeks ago. Both  
      sensors started giving erroneous high readings intermittently in my  
      Cheltons and on Vertical Power. Sandy at GRT says this is pretty  
      common with this sensor. It is a five minute job to swap sensors, but  
      it is a PITA when it starts giving you false alarms. I changed the  
      first one at approximately 175 hours, and this recent one at about  
      350. I can't remember the cost, but I think it was in the $35 to $45  
      range.
      
      David Maib
      40559
      Flying
      
      On May 24, 2011, at 1:17 PM, DLM wrote:
      
      > I have a GRT sensor which is occasionally providing a reading of 38  
      > psi which puts me into the out of limits condition for the Chelton  
      > displays. Normal reading is about 29 psi. part total time is about  
      > 450 hours. anyone else had sensor problems? I carry a replacement  
      > in the tool/parts box so I can change it but trying to confirm that  
      > it needs to be replaced. Engine continues to perform properly.
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Round SubPanel Doubler | 
      
      
      On 5/24/2011 6:40 PM, Stein Bruch wrote:
      > -->  RV10-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch"<stein@steinair.com>
      >
      > For something like a small round hole that you feed wires through, no
      > doubler would really be needed...think of it as a "lightning hole"!
      Are lightning holes followed by thunder???
      Sorry, couldn't resist!!!
      Linn
      > Cheers,
      >
      > Stein
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
      > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:21 PM
      > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RV10-List: Round SubPanel Doubler
      >
      > -->  RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens<sean@stephensville.com>
      >
      > For those that are using doublers in the subpanel for round holes cut
      > for wire pass-through, are you making your own using a fly cutter or are
      > there pre-made doublers available from some source?
      >
      > Thanks,
      >
      > -Sean #40303
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Round SubPanel Doubler | 
      
      
      On 5/24/2011 6:57 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
      >
      > Ya, I was thinking something a bit larger.  Something a pre-built 
      > harness (made by some reputable avionics shop :) ) with a DB25 already 
      > on could pass through without pulling all the wires out of the connector.
      You can take the DB-25 connector shell apart and lay the cable alongside 
      and fit it through about a 3/4" - 1" hole.  After getting it through, 
      just replace the shell.
      Linn
      >
      > I know Vans recommends anything over 2 inch diameter be reinforced.
      >
      > On 5/24/11 5:40 PM, Stein Bruch wrote:
      >> -->  RV10-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch"<stein@steinair.com>
      >>
      >> For something like a small round hole that you feed wires through, no
      >> doubler would really be needed...think of it as a "lightning hole"!
      >>
      >> Cheers,
      >>
      >> Stein
      >>
      >>
      >> -----Original Message-----
      >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
      >> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:21 PM
      >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      >> Subject: RV10-List: Round SubPanel Doubler
      >>
      >> -->  RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens<sean@stephensville.com>
      >>
      >> For those that are using doublers in the subpanel for round holes cut
      >> for wire pass-through, are you making your own using a fly cutter or are
      >> there pre-made doublers available from some source?
      >>
      >> Thanks,
      >>
      >> -Sean #40303
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: fuel pressure sensor | 
      
      try link I posted. About $23. 
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: David 
        To: rv10-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 4:14 PM
        Subject: Re: RV10-List: fuel pressure sensor
      
      
        I just replaced my second GRT fuel sensor a few weeks ago. Both 
      sensors started giving erroneous high readings intermittently in my 
      Cheltons and on Vertical Power. Sandy at GRT says this is pretty common 
      with this sensor. It is a five minute job to swap sensors, but it is a 
      PITA when it starts giving you false alarms. I changed the first one at 
      approximately 175 hours, and this recent one at about 350. I can't 
      remember the cost, but I think it was in the $35 to $45 range.
      
      
        David Maib
        40559
        Flying
      
      
        On May 24, 2011, at 1:17 PM, DLM wrote:
      
      
          I have a GRT sensor which is occasionally providing a reading of 38 
      psi which puts me into the out of limits condition for the Chelton 
      displays. Normal reading is about 29 psi. part total time is about 450 
      hours. anyone else had sensor problems? I carry a replacement in the 
      tool/parts box so I can change it but trying to confirm that it needs to 
      be replaced. Engine continues to perform properly. 
      
      
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