RV10-List Digest Archive

Sun 05/29/11


Total Messages Posted: 15



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 11:00 AM - Re: Aircraft winch recommendation (Jim Berry)
     2. 11:38 AM - Re: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation (Rene Felker)
     3. 11:53 AM - Re: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation (Michael Kraus)
     4. 12:15 PM - Re: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation (Rene Felker)
     5. 12:44 PM - Garmin 900x (gary)
     6. 12:52 PM - Re: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation (Kelly McMullen)
     7. 01:13 PM - Re: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation (Marcus Cooper)
     8. 01:18 PM - Re: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation (DLM)
     9. 01:42 PM - Re: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation (Rene)
    10. 02:18 PM - Re: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation (Tim Olson)
    11. 02:44 PM - Re: Garmin 900x (Robin Marks)
    12. 03:28 PM - Re: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation (Albert Gardner)
    13. 04:17 PM - Re: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation (DLM)
    14. 04:19 PM - Re: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation (DLM)
    15. 10:07 PM - Re: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation (Tim Olson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 11:00:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation
    From: "Jim Berry" <jimberry@qwest.net>
    Dick, Look at the Harbor Freight camouflage winch with remote control for $100, discounted to $70. Works well. I think Tim has this winch also. Jim Berry N15JB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341384#341384


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    Time: 11:38:36 AM PST US
    From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation
    I was going to go the winch route and then decided that the eclectic tow bar would be better. Three years later and a hanger change and I am glad I went with the tow bar, a wench would not work very good in my new hanger. My first hanger was a T hanger with the ramp sloping out from the front. My new hanger is square 60X60 and depending on what else I have in the hanger at the time, the plane gets moved around. I know this does not answer your question directly, but it is something to think about. There is a big difference in cost between the winch and the eclectic tow bar....... Rene' Felker N423CF 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation Dick, Look at the Harbor Freight camouflage winch with remote control for $100, discounted to $70. Works well. I think Tim has this winch also. Jim Berry N15JB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341384#341384


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    Time: 11:53:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    What powered tow bars are people using on the -10? Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2011, at 2:34 PM, "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> wrote: > > I was going to go the winch route and then decided that the eclectic tow bar > would be better. Three years later and a hanger change and I am glad I went > with the tow bar, a wench would not work very good in my new hanger. My > first hanger was a T hanger with the ramp sloping out from the front. My > new hanger is square 60X60 and depending on what else I have in the hanger > at the time, the plane gets moved around. > > I know this does not answer your question directly, but it is something to > think about. > > There is a big difference in cost between the winch and the eclectic tow > bar....... > > Rene' Felker > N423CF > 801-721-6080 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:57 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation > > > Dick, > > Look at the Harbor Freight camouflage winch with remote control for $100, > discounted to $70. Works well. I think Tim has this winch also. > > Jim Berry > N15JB > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341384#341384 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:15:24 PM PST US
    From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation
    This is the one I use. http://www.powertow.com/12V.html Rene' Felker N423CF 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:50 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation What powered tow bars are people using on the -10? Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2011, at 2:34 PM, "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> wrote: > > I was going to go the winch route and then decided that the eclectic tow bar > would be better. Three years later and a hanger change and I am glad I went > with the tow bar, a wench would not work very good in my new hanger. My > first hanger was a T hanger with the ramp sloping out from the front. My > new hanger is square 60X60 and depending on what else I have in the hanger > at the time, the plane gets moved around. > > I know this does not answer your question directly, but it is something to > think about. > > There is a big difference in cost between the winch and the eclectic tow > bar....... > > Rene' Felker > N423CF > 801-721-6080 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:57 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation > > > Dick, > > Look at the Harbor Freight camouflage winch with remote control for $100, > discounted to $70. Works well. I think Tim has this winch also. > > Jim Berry > N15JB > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341384#341384 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:44:44 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Garmin 900x
    I have a 900x and can't seem to find what version of software I am running. I think I uploaded the latest version but can't tell for sure. Where in the menu do you find that info? Gary Specketer


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    Time: 12:52:55 PM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation
    Every time I suggest a hangar wench, my wife vetoes the concept. ;-) She thinks there is a mistress nearby the airport anyway, since I spend so much time there. On 5/29/2011 11:34 AM, Rene Felker wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker"<rene@felker.com> > Three years later and a hanger change and I am glad I went > with the tow bar, a wench would not work very good in my new hanger.


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    Time: 01:13:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation
    From: Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net>
    Maybe someone will still have the magazine, but there was pretty good article on building an electric towbar yourself not too long again in Sport Aviation (I think). Marcus do not archive On May 29, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Rene Felker wrote: > > This is the one I use. > > http://www.powertow.com/12V.html > > Rene' Felker > N423CF > 801-721-6080 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:50 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation > > > What powered tow bars are people using on the -10? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2011, at 2:34 PM, "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> wrote: > >> >> I was going to go the winch route and then decided that the eclectic tow > bar >> would be better. Three years later and a hanger change and I am glad I > went >> with the tow bar, a wench would not work very good in my new hanger. My >> first hanger was a T hanger with the ramp sloping out from the front. My >> new hanger is square 60X60 and depending on what else I have in the hanger >> at the time, the plane gets moved around. >> >> I know this does not answer your question directly, but it is something to >> think about. >> >> There is a big difference in cost between the winch and the eclectic tow >> bar....... >> >> Rene' Felker >> N423CF >> 801-721-6080 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry >> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:57 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation >> >> >> Dick, >> >> Look at the Harbor Freight camouflage winch with remote control for $100, >> discounted to $70. Works well. I think Tim has this winch also. >> >> Jim Berry >> N15JB >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341384#341384 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:18:09 PM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com>
    Subject: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation
    sounds like we have some wusses; just kidding. I am 66 and still muscle my 10 with full fuel in/out the hangar. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:12 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation > > This is the one I use. > > http://www.powertow.com/12V.html > > Rene' Felker > N423CF > 801-721-6080 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:50 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation > > <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> > > What powered tow bars are people using on the -10? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2011, at 2:34 PM, "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> wrote: > >> >> I was going to go the winch route and then decided that the eclectic tow > bar >> would be better. Three years later and a hanger change and I am glad I > went >> with the tow bar, a wench would not work very good in my new hanger. My >> first hanger was a T hanger with the ramp sloping out from the front. My >> new hanger is square 60X60 and depending on what else I have in the >> hanger >> at the time, the plane gets moved around. >> >> I know this does not answer your question directly, but it is something >> to >> think about. >> >> There is a big difference in cost between the winch and the eclectic tow >> bar....... >> >> Rene' Felker >> N423CF >> 801-721-6080 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry >> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:57 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation >> >> >> Dick, >> >> Look at the Harbor Freight camouflage winch with remote control for $100, >> discounted to $70. Works well. I think Tim has this winch also. >> >> Jim Berry >> N15JB >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341384#341384 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 01:42:35 PM PST US
    From: "Rene" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation
    I agree, I am a wuss. But, north facing hanger in the winter made it almost impossible to do it by myself. Now that I have it....I would not do without, just makes it so much easier. I leave it hooked up all the time........except when I fly of course...... Rene' 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 2:16 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation sounds like we have some wusses; just kidding. I am 66 and still muscle my 10 with full fuel in/out the hangar. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:12 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation > > This is the one I use. > > http://www.powertow.com/12V.html > > Rene' Felker > N423CF > 801-721-6080 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael > Kraus > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:50 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation > > <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> > > What powered tow bars are people using on the -10? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2011, at 2:34 PM, "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> wrote: > >> >> I was going to go the winch route and then decided that the eclectic >> tow > bar >> would be better. Three years later and a hanger change and I am glad >> I > went >> with the tow bar, a wench would not work very good in my new hanger. >> My first hanger was a T hanger with the ramp sloping out from the >> front. My new hanger is square 60X60 and depending on what else I >> have in the hanger at the time, the plane gets moved around. >> >> I know this does not answer your question directly, but it is >> something to think about. >> >> There is a big difference in cost between the winch and the eclectic >> tow bar....... >> >> Rene' Felker >> N423CF >> 801-721-6080 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry >> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:57 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation >> >> >> Dick, >> >> Look at the Harbor Freight camouflage winch with remote control for >> $100, discounted to $70. Works well. I think Tim has this winch also. >> >> Jim Berry >> N15JB >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341384#341384 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 02:18:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    On 2" ice? On May 29, 2011, at 3:15 PM, "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com> wrote: > > sounds like we have some wusses; just kidding. I am 66 and still muscle my 10 with full fuel in/out the hangar. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:12 PM > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation > > >> >> This is the one I use. >> >> http://www.powertow.com/12V.html >> >> Rene' Felker >> N423CF >> 801-721-6080 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus >> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:50 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation >> >> >> What powered tow bars are people using on the -10? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2011, at 2:34 PM, "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> I was going to go the winch route and then decided that the eclectic tow >> bar >>> would be better. Three years later and a hanger change and I am glad I >> went >>> with the tow bar, a wench would not work very good in my new hanger. My >>> first hanger was a T hanger with the ramp sloping out from the front. My >>> new hanger is square 60X60 and depending on what else I have in the hanger >>> at the time, the plane gets moved around. >>> >>> I know this does not answer your question directly, but it is something to >>> think about. >>> >>> There is a big difference in cost between the winch and the eclectic tow >>> bar....... >>> >>> Rene' Felker >>> N423CF >>> 801-721-6080 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry >>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:57 AM >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation >>> >>> >>> Dick, >>> >>> Look at the Harbor Freight camouflage winch with remote control for $100, >>> discounted to $70. Works well. I think Tim has this winch also. >>> >>> Jim Berry >>> N15JB >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341384#341384 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 02:44:24 PM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Garmin 900x
    Gary, Here are some snips from the manual. I believe on the system status page (not sure the exact name of the page) it also shows the version number. If you have not updated the system recently Garmin released version 09 on 4/5/2011. I think version 08 was released very early in 2011. Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:41 PM Subject: RV10-List: Garmin 900x I have a 900x and can't seem to find what version of software I am running. I think I uploaded the latest version but can't tell for sure. Where in the menu do you find that info? Gary Specketer


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    Time: 03:28:10 PM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation
    I built my own based on an article in Kitplanes called something like "Build a tow Bar for $10". Mine ran more than that, got the tires with bearings from Harbor Freight, a friend gave me a 24V gearmoter, batteries from Walmart and the 1" square tube for the frame from Lowes. The 24V motor was nice as it gave me 2 speeds. An over-center link keeps it clamped to the front wheel. I've since added LED lights for night use. About $150 I think. The Kitplanes article guy used a windshield wiper motor and made his own sprockets. Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ (A wench to operate is extra)


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    Time: 04:17:57 PM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com>
    Subject: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation
    I don't think we got 2 x 10-6 inches here in AZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@myrv10.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 2:15 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation > > On 2" ice? > > > On May 29, 2011, at 3:15 PM, "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com> wrote: > >> >> sounds like we have some wusses; just kidding. I am 66 and still muscle >> my 10 with full fuel in/out the hangar. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> >> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:12 PM >> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation >> >> >>> >>> This is the one I use. >>> >>> http://www.powertow.com/12V.html >>> >>> Rene' Felker >>> N423CF >>> 801-721-6080 >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus >>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:50 PM >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation >>> >>> <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> >>> >>> What powered tow bars are people using on the -10? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2011, at 2:34 PM, "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I was going to go the winch route and then decided that the eclectic >>>> tow >>> bar >>>> would be better. Three years later and a hanger change and I am glad I >>> went >>>> with the tow bar, a wench would not work very good in my new hanger. >>>> My >>>> first hanger was a T hanger with the ramp sloping out from the front. >>>> My >>>> new hanger is square 60X60 and depending on what else I have in the >>>> hanger >>>> at the time, the plane gets moved around. >>>> >>>> I know this does not answer your question directly, but it is something >>>> to >>>> think about. >>>> >>>> There is a big difference in cost between the winch and the eclectic >>>> tow >>>> bar....... >>>> >>>> Rene' Felker >>>> N423CF >>>> 801-721-6080 >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:57 AM >>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation >>>> >>>> >>>> Dick, >>>> >>>> Look at the Harbor Freight camouflage winch with remote control for >>>> $100, >>>> discounted to $70. Works well. I think Tim has this winch also. >>>> >>>> Jim Berry >>>> N15JB >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341384#341384 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 04:19:14 PM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com>
    Subject: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation
    " How much is that wench in the window" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 3:25 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation >I built my own based on an article in Kitplanes called something like >"Build > a tow Bar for $10". Mine ran more than that, got the tires with bearings > from Harbor Freight, a friend gave me a 24V gearmoter, batteries from > Walmart and the 1" square tube for the frame from Lowes. The 24V motor was > nice as it gave me 2 speeds. An over-center link keeps it clamped to the > front wheel. I've since added LED lights for night use. About $150 I > think. > The Kitplanes article guy used a windshield wiper motor and made his own > sprockets. > Albert Gardner > N991RV > Yuma, AZ > (A wench to operate is extra) > >


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    Time: 10:07:04 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Aircraft winch recommendation
    I did shoot Dick an offline reply, but Jim is right. I have the wireless remote Harbor Freight winch. It does do the job well for me when it's icy. It isn't what I'd recommend to someone who needs to use one every day though. It's a slow winch, which is good, but it only moves a few inches per click of the button. So it takes a while to get in the hangar. The spool is pretty small too, so unrolling the cable to hook it up isn't so fun. The winch isn't super bad, but it isn't really as nice as a good quality pro winch either. So while I like it for occasional use, I'd recommend either a power tow of some sort, or a better winch if you use it a lot. In the winter, I'm not sure how a power tow would work for me. I'm sure if they make them with spike tires they'd work though, but hopefully not tear up the pavement. The winch works best for winter I'd think, because when I need it, it's because the snow plow left slush or ice in front of my hangar and you can't even walk. There the winch is priceless. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 5/29/2011 12:56 PM, Jim Berry wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Berry"<jimberry@qwest.net> > > Dick, > > Look at the Harbor Freight camouflage winch with remote control for $100, discounted to $70. Works well. I think Tim has this winch also. > > Jim Berry > N15JB > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341384#341384 >




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