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Thu 06/09/11


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 07:47 AM - Aileron Rigging (rleffler)
     2. 09:19 AM - Re: Aileron Rigging (Michael Kraus)
     3. 09:40 AM - Re: Aileron Rigging (Kevin Belue)
     4. 10:11 AM - Re: Aileron Rigging (DLM)
     5. 10:36 AM - Re: Aileron Rigging (Kevin Belue)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:47:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Aileron Rigging
    From: "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
    I've been working on my aileron and flap rigging the past couple of days. I'm still not finished, but I thought I would solicit some opinions on the best methods to finish the rigging. Here's my data: Aileron Up Down Max Travel 32 17 Min Travel 25 15 Right 29.7 17.3 Left 28.7 16.9 Flaps are up and flush with the bottom of the fuselage. Ailerons are flush with the flaps in the neutral position. There is about a .4 degree variance between the two flaps. I'm slightly over the limits on the right aileron at the moment. While the trailing edge of the left flap and aileron are flush, I still have the right aileron about 1/8" shorter than the flap trailing edge. My question is how far to chase these specs down? Clearly have have to get them within the published specs, but what's the impact if they are within specs but may not be symmetrical? I'm guessing that the roll rate may be slightly different depending on the direction of turn. On the trailing edge differences, I guess the best method is to disconnect the flap and see what angle do they match. Any tips on getting these rigged a little closer together would be appreciated. thanks, bob -------- Bob Leffler N410BL - FWF RV-10 #40684 http://mykitlog.com/rleffler Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342499#342499


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    Time: 09:19:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aileron Rigging
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    Another thing you will notice is that if the control stick is full forward vs full back, the ailerons will move some. I aligned mine at neutral elevator. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:44 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: > > I've been working on my aileron and flap rigging the past couple of days. I'm still not finished, but I thought I would solicit some opinions on the best methods to finish the rigging. > > Here's my data: > > Aileron Up Down > Max Travel 32 17 > Min Travel 25 15 > Right 29.7 17.3 > Left 28.7 16.9 > > Flaps are up and flush with the bottom of the fuselage. Ailerons are flush with the flaps in the neutral position. There is about a .4 degree variance between the two flaps. I'm slightly over the limits on the right aileron at the moment. While the trailing edge of the left flap and aileron are flush, I still have the right aileron about 1/8" shorter than the flap trailing edge. > > My question is how far to chase these specs down? Clearly have have to get them within the published specs, but what's the impact if they are within specs but may not be symmetrical? I'm guessing that the roll rate may be slightly different depending on the direction of turn. > > On the trailing edge differences, I guess the best method is to disconnect the flap and see what angle do they match. > > Any tips on getting these rigged a little closer together would be appreciated. > > thanks, > > bob > > -------- > Bob Leffler > N410BL - FWF > RV-10 #40684 > http://mykitlog.com/rleffler > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342499#342499 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:40:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aileron Rigging
    From: Kevin Belue <kdbelue@charter.net>
    I chased the aileron alignment on my plane and found that it changes as the temperature changes. I clamped one aileron to the flap and noticed the other aileron would vary about 1/8" at the tip over temperature, so I left it at that. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 9, 2011, at 9:44 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: > > I've been working on my aileron and flap rigging the past couple of days. I'm still not finished, but I thought I would solicit some opinions on the best methods to finish the rigging. > > Here's my data: > > Aileron Up Down > Max Travel 32 17 > Min Travel 25 15 > Right 29.7 17.3 > Left 28.7 16.9 > > Flaps are up and flush with the bottom of the fuselage. Ailerons are flush with the flaps in the neutral position. There is about a .4 degree variance between the two flaps. I'm slightly over the limits on the right aileron at the moment. While the trailing edge of the left flap and aileron are flush, I still have the right aileron about 1/8" shorter than the flap trailing edge. > > My question is how far to chase these specs down? Clearly have have to get them within the published specs, but what's the impact if they are within specs but may not be symmetrical? I'm guessing that the roll rate may be slightly different depending on the direction of turn. > > On the trailing edge differences, I guess the best method is to disconnect the flap and see what angle do they match. > > Any tips on getting these rigged a little closer together would be appreciated. > > thanks, > > bob > > -------- > Bob Leffler > N410BL - FWF > RV-10 #40684 > http://mykitlog.com/rleffler > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342499#342499 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:11:51 AM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com>
    Subject: Re: Aileron Rigging
    recognize also that the flaps are reflexed so clamping one side and aligning the other is counter productive. Flaps need to be set in trail for the procedure to work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Belue" <kdbelue@charter.net> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:30 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aileron Rigging > > I chased the aileron alignment on my plane and found that it changes as > the temperature changes. I clamped one aileron to the flap and noticed the > other aileron would vary about 1/8" at the tip over temperature, so I left > it at that. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 9, 2011, at 9:44 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: > >> >> I've been working on my aileron and flap rigging the past couple of days. >> I'm still not finished, but I thought I would solicit some opinions on >> the best methods to finish the rigging. >> >> Here's my data: >> >> Aileron Up Down >> Max Travel 32 17 >> Min Travel 25 15 >> Right 29.7 17.3 >> Left 28.7 16.9 >> >> Flaps are up and flush with the bottom of the fuselage. Ailerons are >> flush with the flaps in the neutral position. There is about a .4 degree >> variance between the two flaps. I'm slightly over the limits on the >> right aileron at the moment. While the trailing edge of the left flap >> and aileron are flush, I still have the right aileron about 1/8" shorter >> than the flap trailing edge. >> >> My question is how far to chase these specs down? Clearly have have to >> get them within the published specs, but what's the impact if they are >> within specs but may not be symmetrical? I'm guessing that the roll rate >> may be slightly different depending on the direction of turn. >> >> On the trailing edge differences, I guess the best method is to >> disconnect the flap and see what angle do they match. >> >> Any tips on getting these rigged a little closer together would be >> appreciated. >> >> thanks, >> >> bob >> >> -------- >> Bob Leffler >> N410BL - FWF >> RV-10 #40684 >> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342499#342499 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 10:36:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aileron Rigging
    From: Kevin Belue <kdbelue@charter.net>
    The position of the flaps didn't matter for this- I'm saying that the aileron position would change just from the temperature changing. One day I'd set the ailerons and clamp one side to the flap and note the position of the other aileron. The next day, at a different temperature (+- 10), the aileron would be in a different position.... Sent from my iPhone On Jun 9, 2011, at 12:07 PM, "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com> wrote: > > recognize also that the flaps are reflexed so clamping one side and aligning the other is counter productive. Flaps need to be set in trail for the procedure to work. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Belue" <kdbelue@charter.net> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:30 AM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aileron Rigging > > >> >> I chased the aileron alignment on my plane and found that it changes as the temperature changes. I clamped one aileron to the flap and noticed the other aileron would vary about 1/8" at the tip over temperature, so I left it at that. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 9, 2011, at 9:44 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> I've been working on my aileron and flap rigging the past couple of days. I'm still not finished, but I thought I would solicit some opinions on the best methods to finish the rigging. >>> >>> Here's my data: >>> >>> Aileron Up Down >>> Max Travel 32 17 >>> Min Travel 25 15 >>> Right 29.7 17.3 >>> Left 28.7 16.9 >>> >>> Flaps are up and flush with the bottom of the fuselage. Ailerons are flush with the flaps in the neutral position. There is about a .4 degree variance between the two flaps. I'm slightly over the limits on the right aileron at the moment. While the trailing edge of the left flap and aileron are flush, I still have the right aileron about 1/8" shorter than the flap trailing edge. >>> >>> My question is how far to chase these specs down? Clearly have have to get them within the published specs, but what's the impact if they are within specs but may not be symmetrical? I'm guessing that the roll rate may be slightly different depending on the direction of turn. >>> >>> On the trailing edge differences, I guess the best method is to disconnect the flap and see what angle do they match. >>> >>> Any tips on getting these rigged a little closer together would be appreciated. >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> bob >>> >>> -------- >>> Bob Leffler >>> N410BL - FWF >>> RV-10 #40684 >>> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342499#342499 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > >




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