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Mon 06/13/11


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     1. 03:53 AM - Re: Wheel Fairing/ Plane Leveling Question (carl.froehlich@verizon.net)
     2. 05:44 AM - Re: Breaking nose pants (Thane States)
     3. 03:59 PM - Sold on whiskers (Tim Olson)
     4. 04:37 PM - Re: Breaking nose pants (Lew Gallagher)
     5. 04:46 PM - Re: Re: Breaking nose pants (gary)
     6. 05:47 PM - Re: Sold on whiskers (Kelly McMullen)
     7. 06:05 PM - Re: Sold on whiskers (Tim Olson)
     8. 06:23 PM - Re: Sold on whiskers (dmaib@me.com)
     9. 06:55 PM - Re: Re: Sold on whiskers (Sean Stephens)
    10. 07:24 PM - Re: Sold on whiskers (Kelly McMullen)
    11. 08:29 PM - Re: Sold on whiskers (Tim Olson)
    12. 08:51 PM - Re: Sold on whiskers (Kelly McMullen)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:53:55 AM PST US
    From: "carl.froehlich@verizon.net" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Wheel Fairing/ Plane Leveling Question
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    Time: 05:44:36 AM PST US
    From: "Thane States" <thane2@comporium.net>
    Subject: Re: Breaking nose pants
    Yep, mine did that also. The 1st. time was from a firm landing with a heavy airplane and aft c.g. It tore up the back bottom area of both main wheel pants. A veteran RV builder had told me that my pants would eventually be damaged if set up as per Vans instructions. So I redid them and flattened off the bottom area in front of and to the rear of the tires, giving them more ground clearance. Then I happily went off on an adventure, and tore them up again because I had not provided enough clearance around the tire area, so I fixed them again. I now have no issues, and thankfully, I have not painted yet. Thane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 7:49 PM Subject: RV10-List: Breaking nose pants > > Hey guys, > > This will be the FOURTH (original and three replacements) nose wheel > pants I've made. Apparently on hard landings, low tire pressure, > whatever, the tire grabs the sides of the opening, curls them in and > breaks off the tail of the pants. > > I can see tire burn on the broken edges, so it must be that when the tire > flattens, then rotates before it can reshape, it grabs the fiberglass. > Note that the glass is not laid for structure (on a bias) and it's a clean > break along the weave. > > I've opened the width much more than Van's calls for this last time in > hopes to eliminate the problem. I got tired of ordering a new blank, so > this time I put the damaged one back together. Three layers of cloth on a > bias along the inner seam, one on the outer, smoothed with resin/micro > beads, primed and feathered in. I won't redo the paint job until we find > out if it's a fix. > > Anyone else find this to be a problem? I don't recall anyone posting this > before. Let me know - Lew > > -------- > non-pilot > crazy about building > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Fly off completed ! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342821#342821 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/patch2_medium_109.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/patch1_medium_104.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/brkncone_medium_116.jpg > > >


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    Time: 03:59:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Sold on whiskers
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Am currently about 36nm from the center of the DC SFRA. Right wing points to DC. Left has my archer nav. I'm at 3000', well high enough. Perfect signal on my SL-30 with whiskers. No signal on my 480, shadowed by the plane. Not good for being so close to F-16 territory. Tim


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    Time: 04:37:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Breaking nose pants
    From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net>
    Thanks for the validation, guys. Good to know it's not just Wes's -- bad to know that the plans call for 5/8" clearance and it wasn't on anyone's "gotcha" list. I agree that it should be "at least 1" -- those still building, take note! Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Fly off completed ! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342903#342903


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    Time: 04:46:20 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Breaking nose pants
    I have found over the years on several homebuilts, that keeping the tire pressure up, say 50 or 60 pounds helps keep the tire from deforming and scraping the pant. Gary Specketer -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lew Gallagher Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 6:35 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Breaking nose pants Thanks for the validation, guys. Good to know it's not just Wes's -- bad to know that the plans call for 5/8" clearance and it wasn't on anyone's "gotcha" list. I agree that it should be "at least 1" -- those still building, take note! Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Fly off completed ! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342903#342903


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    Time: 05:47:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sold on whiskers
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    As long as you fly around the SFRA in a left hand pattern, should be no problem. ;-) How much time does one spend flying perpendicular to the VOR radials? On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > > Am currently about 36nm from the center of the DC SFRA. Right wing points > to DC. Left has my archer nav. I'm at 3000', well high enough. > Perfect signal on my SL-30 with whiskers. No signal on my 480, shadowed by > the plane. Not good for being so close to F-16 territory. > Tim > >


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    Time: 06:05:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sold on whiskers
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
    I know, I know. ;). But yeah, I was pretty ticked that it wasn't reading bec ause my 480 has a nice mileage readout of distance to station and I use it t o cross check myself. I wanted to guarantee I was outside the SFRA and was s hocked that even 36nm from station it didn't work. Later in the flight at a different angle it started reading at 36nm again. I think using VOR's as cross check is still a good idea, and with the 480, i t is nice because I can easily call and give FSS / atc my position from the v or without a bunch of dialing around as long as I was prepared. Tim On Jun 13, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote: > As long as you fly around the SFRA in a left hand pattern, should be no pr oblem. ;-) How much time does one spend flying perpendicular to the VOR radi als? > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > > Am currently about 36nm from the center of the DC SFRA. Right wing points to DC. Left has my archer nav. I'm at 3000', well high enough. > Perfect signal on my SL-30 with whiskers. No signal on my 480, shadowed b y the plane. Not good for being so close to F-16 territory. > Tim > > > > > ========== > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 06:23:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sold on whiskers
    From: "dmaib@me.com" <dmaib@me.com>
    I have my whiskers mounted under the tail (like Tim). I have a diplexer (or maybe a triplexer??) so my SL-30 and my 430W both use the same antenna. The performance is fantastic. I routinely pick up VOR signals on the SL-30 more than 90 miles out at cruising altitudes and 60 or 70 miles out on the 430W. LOC/GS reception is great on both radios, as well. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342915#342915


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    Time: 06:55:41 PM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: Sold on whiskers
    If you have a 430 and an SL-30 I am guessing a Triplexer such as http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/comant505.php The 430 has separate inputs for GS and NAV so it need those two split out where as the SL-30 has that built in so only has a single NAV/GS input. -Sean #40303 (panel schtuff) On 6/13/11 8:20 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "dmaib@me.com"<dmaib@me.com> > > I have my whiskers mounted under the tail (like Tim). I have a diplexer (or maybe a triplexer??) so my SL-30 and my 430W both use the same antenna. The performance is fantastic. I routinely pick up VOR signals on the SL-30 more than 90 miles out at cruising altitudes and 60 or 70 miles out on the 430W. LOC/GS reception is great on both radios, as well. > > -------- > David Maib > RV-10 #40559 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342915#342915 > >


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    Time: 07:24:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sold on whiskers
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Perhaps it would make sense to switch which antenna connect to which radio. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > I know, I know. ;). But yeah, I was pretty ticked that it wasn't reading > because my 480 has a nice mileage readout of distance to station and I use > it to cross check myself. I wanted to guarantee I was outside the SFRA and > was shocked that even 36nm from station it didn't work. Later in the flight > at a different angle it started reading at 36nm again. > I think using VOR's as cross check is still a good idea, and with the 480, > it is nice because I can easily call and give FSS / atc my position from the > vor without a bunch of dialing around as long as I was prepared. > Tim > > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote: > > As long as you fly around the SFRA in a left hand pattern, should be no > problem. ;-) How much time does one spend flying perpendicular to the VOR > radials? > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Olson < <Tim@myrv10.com> > Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > >> Tim@myrv10.com> >> >> Am currently about 36nm from the center of the DC SFRA. Right wing points >> to DC. Left has my archer nav. I'm at 3000', well high enough. >> Perfect signal on my SL-30 with whiskers. No signal on my 480, shadowed >> by the plane. Not good for being so close to F-16 territory. >> Tim >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> arget="_blank"> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ========== >> <http://forums.matronics.com>http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank"> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > * > > ================================== > ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ===================================ums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > ===================================http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ================================== > * > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 08:29:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sold on whiskers
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Nah...if I have to choose, the one that goes to my cheltons (SL-30) will win every time. But the 480 makes an awesome Nav/com. Tim On Jun 13, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote: > Perhaps it would make sense to switch which antenna connect to which radio . > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > I know, I know. ;). But yeah, I was pretty ticked that it wasn't reading b ecause my 480 has a nice mileage readout of distance to station and I use it to cross check myself. I wanted to guarantee I was outside the SFRA and wa s shocked that even 36nm from station it didn't work. Later in the flight a t a different angle it started reading at 36nm again. > I think using VOR's as cross check is still a good idea, and with the 480, it is nice because I can easily call and give FSS / atc my position from th e vor without a bunch of dialing around as long as I was prepared. > Tim > > > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote: > >> As long as you fly around the SFRA in a left hand pattern, should be no p roblem. ;-) How much time does one spend flying perpendicular to the VOR rad ials? >> >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: >> >> Am currently about 36nm from the center of the DC SFRA. Right wing point s to DC. Left has my archer nav. I'm at 3000', well high enough. >> Perfect signal on my SL-30 with whiskers. No signal on my 480, shadowed b y the plane. Not good for being so close to F-16 territory. >> Tim >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========= >> ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ========= >> ums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========= >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribut ion >> ========= >> > > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 08:51:02 PM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: Sold on whiskers
    Or use a diplexer to feed both nav radios with the cat whiskers. On 6/13/2011 8:23 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > Nah...if I have to choose, the one that goes to my cheltons (SL-30) > will win every time. But the 480 makes an awesome Nav/com. > Tim > > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com > <mailto:apilot2@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Perhaps it would make sense to switch which antenna connect to which >> radio. >> >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com >> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>> wrote: >> >> I know, I know. ;). But yeah, I was pretty ticked that it wasn't >> reading because my 480 has a nice mileage readout of distance to >> station and I use it to cross check myself. I wanted to >> guarantee I was outside the SFRA and was shocked that even 36nm >> from station it didn't work. Later in the flight at a different >> angle it started reading at 36nm again. >> I think using VOR's as cross check is still a good idea, and with >> the 480, it is nice because I can easily call and give FSS / atc >> my position from the vor without a bunch of dialing around as >> long as I was prepared. >> Tim >> >> >> >> On Jun 13, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com >> <mailto:apilot2@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> As long as you fly around the SFRA in a left hand pattern, >>> should be no problem. ;-) How much time does one spend flying >>> perpendicular to the VOR radials? >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com >>> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>> wrote: >>> >>> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>> >>> >>> Am currently about 36nm from the center of the DC SFRA. >>> Right wing points to DC. Left has my archer nav. I'm at >>> 3000', well high enough. >>> Perfect signal on my SL-30 with whiskers. No signal on my >>> 480, shadowed by the plane. Not good for being so close to >>> F-16 territory. >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> ========== >>> http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> le, List Admin. >>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> * >>> >>> ========= >>> ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> ========= >>> ums.matronics.com <http://ums.matronics.com>">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========= >>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========= >>> >>> * >> >> * >> >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> >> * >> >> >> * > * > > > *




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