---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/30/11: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:32 AM - Re: Baffle advice (Rob Kermanj) 2. 05:15 AM - Re: Baffle advice (Geoff Combs) 3. 06:07 AM - Re: Baffle advice (Fred Williams, M.D.) 4. 06:08 AM - Re: Baffle advice (Tim Olson) 5. 06:28 AM - OSH 2011 and the HQ (Tim Olson) 6. 07:20 AM - complete window set for sale (Chris Hukill) 7. 08:32 AM - Re: complete window set for sale (Michael Kraus) 8. 10:06 AM - Re: OSH 2011 and the HQ (Phillip Perry) 9. 10:06 AM - Re: complete window set for sale (preid) 10. 11:34 AM - Re: OSH 2011 and the HQ (Bob Condrey) 11. 12:32 PM - Re: OSH 2011 and the HQ (Robin Marks) 12. 03:15 PM - KIT CONTENTS (mds4878) 13. 03:28 PM - Re: KIT CONTENTS (Kelly McMullen) 14. 03:56 PM - Re: KIT CONTENTS (mds4878) 15. 07:10 PM - Re: Baffle advice (Bob Leffler) 16. 07:35 PM - stick grip (Linn Walters) 17. 10:31 PM - Flying Magazine/Dan Lloyd/Aftermath (Jeff Carpenter) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:32:05 AM PST US From: Rob Kermanj Subject: Re: RV10-List: Baffle advice Cut the bracket. do not archive. On Jun 29, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: > I ran into a couple =93opportunities=94 at the hangar this evening that I=92m soliciting opinions while I research for solutions. The first issue is that the rear support brace for the baffle and one of the fuel tubes want to occupy the same space. Since the fuel injector fuel lines were installed at Lycoming, I=92m not quite sure how to proceed. I=92m concerned that if I attempt to bend the fuel line up, I may put a crease in the line. I=92m not sure if I should be concerned that with the other five cylinders are all horizontal in the same plane, if this line is elevated to get over this bracket. Another option I thought about was to cut a slot in the bracket and isolate the fuel line with a grommet. I haven=92t referenced 43.13 yet to see what guidance it may provide. > > > > > > The next issue probably falls in the category of me doing something wrong or not doing the obvious. What=92s the secret to get this baffle mounted without severely bending it? > > > > Any suggestions are appreciated. > > 25 days and counting=85=85 > > bob ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:37 AM PST US From: "Geoff Combs" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Baffle advice Bob make a nice half round cut out in the bracket. I had to cut mine out for my Ignition coil. See link http://cdn-3-service.phanfare.com/images/external/7068012_3161550_64301362_W eb_3/0_0_c6e7e93ae7bc906cc3c993621baec8f6_1 Geoff Combs President 614-834-5227p 614-834-5230f www.aerosportmodeling.com _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:55 PM Subject: RV10-List: Baffle advice I ran into a couple "opportunities" at the hangar this evening that I'm soliciting opinions while I research for solutions. The first issue is that the rear support brace for the baffle and one of the fuel tubes want to occupy the same space. Since the fuel injector fuel lines were installed at Lycoming, I'm not quite sure how to proceed. I'm concerned that if I attempt to bend the fuel line up, I may put a crease in the line. I'm not sure if I should be concerned that with the other five cylinders are all horizontal in the same plane, if this line is elevated to get over this bracket. Another option I thought about was to cut a slot in the bracket and isolate the fuel line with a grommet. I haven't referenced 43.13 yet to see what guidance it may provide. The next issue probably falls in the category of me doing something wrong or not doing the obvious. What's the secret to get this baffle mounted without severely bending it? Any suggestions are appreciated. 25 days and counting.. bob ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:04 AM PST US From: "Fred Williams, M.D." Subject: Re: RV10-List: Baffle advice I cut a slot in mine right where you show. Rounded the hole. no problems 3+ years. Dr Fred 515FW. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:56 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Baffle advice Same here: http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/engine/20051107/RV200511060004.html http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/engine/20051107/RV200511060007.html The bracket will be fine. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD On 6/30/2011 7:11 AM, Geoff Combs wrote: > Bob make a nice half round cut out in the bracket. I had to cut mine out > for my Ignition coil. > > See link > > http://cdn-3-service.phanfare.com/images/external/7068012_3161550_64301362_Web_3/0_0_c6e7e93ae7bc906cc3c993621baec8f6_1 > > **Geoff Combs** > > President > > **614-834-5227p** > 614-834-5230f > > www.aerosportmodeling.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bob Leffler > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:55 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: Baffle advice > > I ran into a couple opportunities at the hangar this evening that Im > soliciting opinions while I research for solutions. The first issue is > that the rear support brace for the baffle and one of the fuel tubes > want to occupy the same space. Since the fuel injector fuel lines were > installed at Lycoming, Im not quite sure how to proceed. Im concerned > that if I attempt to bend the fuel line up, I may put a crease in the > line. Im not sure if I should be concerned that with the other five > cylinders are all horizontal in the same plane, if this line is elevated > to get over this bracket. Another option I thought about was to cut a > slot in the bracket and isolate the fuel line with a grommet. I havent > referenced 43.13 yet to see what guidance it may provide. > > The next issue probably falls in the category of me doing something > wrong or not doing the obvious. Whats the secret to get this baffle > mounted without severely bending it? > > Any suggestions are appreciated. > > 25 days and counting > > bob > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:13 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: OSH 2011 and the HQ Since I haven't seen anything come out from anyone else, I just wanted to put this out there so people could think about their arrangements a bit. This isn't perhaps the final story, but if there is anything else coming down the line, you'll hear it I'm sure from someone else. Back a few years ago, we started the OSH RV-10 HQ. Bob and Gary stuck with it longer than I did as far as doing the majority of the pre-work to make sure that all the RV-10 folk could camp together. It actually takes a fair amount of time to create the lists, figure out who's coming, who's paid, and to get everyone to reliably provide all of the necessary info to get a campsite in their name, and not always was everyone prompt. Once the time came to get the sites, it's a fair amount of work to buy the supplies for staking them out, and to physically stake them out...all the while trying to ensure that everyone would have the proper amount of space for their rig. Once arrivals started happening, there was often need to adjust things, either due to camper preferences, or an individual's space requirements. Arrivals also meant that people would show up at all hours, expecting usually Bob or Gary to stop what they were doing and make it to the gate to give the car pass credentials and get them to their site. This was probably not a big deal during the pre-show-start days, but once you get to the point where the show starts, like for folks who showed up Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and so on, it's kind of a pain to walk back to camp and interrupt your day, go to the gate, and back to camp, and then have to get back to what you're doing. I'm sure these hassles contributed to the lack of interest in organizing the group for 2011. If it were possible to reserve a block with the EAA without all these hassles, I'm sure it could be a different story, but that's not the way camping works there. If everyone arrived pre-show on the weekend, it would also probably have been much easier. And if everyone were able to pre-pay for their site themselves (which is an option this year, actually), that would have taken the burden of money collection off of the guys. To cut to the chase, at present, none of the past organizers including myself, are up for being the coordinator of all of this for 2011. So before we get into July, where people all start asking what's going on for the RV-10 HQ, I thought I'd let you know for planning sake that there likely is nothing going on. Maybe somebody will jump in and want to organize it, and if so, there would likely be some people wanting to help, but I'm not sure. Part of the issue is that one of the significant advantages of the HQ was that people showed up 1 week prior, staking the sites, allowing you to have a very close campsite to the entry gates. So in order to have an HQ and have it be located similarly, you'd need to have someone onsite at least 4 or 5 days prior to the show. I'm not sure that any of the people who WOULD volunteer, COULD do this. So just so that people aren't sitting and waiting for the news for 2011, I just thought I'd put this out there. It at least gives you time to make your plan. If there indeed is someone who thinks they'd want to take on the project, shoot an email to the list and it's about time to get things underway, as we're about 20 days from when sites would normally be staked out. As for me personally, I'll likely be located somewhere near the same place as the last few years, and I'll see some of you at the show! -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:08 AM PST US From: "Chris Hukill" Subject: RV10-List: complete window set for sale I have all four windows and windshield, never unpacked, for sale.Pick up in Las Vegas, or pay for shipping. $500 for all. Chris Hukill ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:54 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: complete window set for sale From: Michael Kraus Someone eat the up, a new windshield is over $400 and each window is over $1 00!! Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Jun 30, 2011, at 10:17 AM, "Chris Hukill" wrote: > I have all four windows and windshield, never unpacked, for sale.Pick up i n Las Vegas, or pay for shipping. $500 for all. > Chris Hukill > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:21 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH 2011 and the HQ From: Phillip Perry I'll be wondering around the area from Sat -> Friday. If anyone uses Google Latitude to share GPS positions with friends, I'll be happy to add you to my list. I'll have my phone with me and you'll know where I am. If you see I'm close by - come chase me down and we'll shake hands. I suspect there will be quite a bit more activity in the RV-10 parking section now. There are more flying planes and it's the best place for builders to cross paths. Phil On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Since I haven't seen anything come out from anyone else, > I just wanted to put this out there so people could think > about their arrangements a bit. This isn't perhaps > the final story, but if there is anything else coming > down the line, you'll hear it I'm sure from someone else. > > Back a few years ago, we started the OSH RV-10 HQ. > Bob and Gary stuck with it longer than I did as far as > doing the majority of the pre-work to make sure that > all the RV-10 folk could camp together. It actually > takes a fair amount of time to create the lists, figure > out who's coming, who's paid, and to get everyone to > reliably provide all of the necessary info to get a > campsite in their name, and not always was everyone > prompt. Once the time came to get the sites, it's a > fair amount of work to buy the supplies for staking them > out, and to physically stake them out...all the while > trying to ensure that everyone would have the proper > amount of space for their rig. Once arrivals started > happening, there was often need to adjust things, > either due to camper preferences, or an individual's > space requirements. Arrivals also meant that people > would show up at all hours, expecting usually Bob or > Gary to stop what they were doing and make it to the > gate to give the car pass credentials and get them to > their site. This was probably not a big deal during > the pre-show-start days, but once you get to the point > where the show starts, like for folks who showed up > Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and so on, it's kind of > a pain to walk back to camp and interrupt your day, > go to the gate, and back to camp, and then have to > get back to what you're doing. I'm sure these hassles > contributed to the lack of interest in organizing > the group for 2011. If it were possible to reserve > a block with the EAA without all these hassles, I'm > sure it could be a different story, but that's not > the way camping works there. If everyone arrived > pre-show on the weekend, it would also probably have > been much easier. And if everyone were able to pre-pay > for their site themselves (which is an option this > year, actually), that would have taken the burden of > money collection off of the guys. > > To cut to the chase, at present, none of the past organizers > including myself, are up for being the coordinator of all > of this for 2011. So before we get into July, where > people all start asking what's going on for the RV-10 HQ, > I thought I'd let you know for planning sake that there > likely is nothing going on. Maybe somebody will jump > in and want to organize it, and if so, there would > likely be some people wanting to help, but I'm not sure. > Part of the issue is that one of the significant advantages > of the HQ was that people showed up 1 week prior, staking > the sites, allowing you to have a very close campsite to > the entry gates. So in order to have an HQ and have it > be located similarly, you'd need to have someone onsite > at least 4 or 5 days prior to the show. I'm not sure > that any of the people who WOULD volunteer, COULD do > this. > > So just so that people aren't sitting and waiting for the > news for 2011, I just thought I'd put this out there. > It at least gives you time to make your plan. > > If there indeed is someone who thinks they'd want to > take on the project, shoot an email to the list > and it's about time to get things underway, as we're > about 20 days from when sites would normally be > staked out. > > As for me personally, I'll likely be located somewhere > near the same place as the last few years, and I'll > see some of you at the show! > > -- > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:56 AM PST US From: "preid" Subject: Re: RV10-List: complete window set for sale I may be guessing here, but I am guessing Chris is going with the Cee baileys windscreens that are literally plug and glue- no trimming needed, Also to be a little more specific, windows and windscreen are twice the price that Chris is selling his for. In conclusion, if you are opting for new windows, skip them from Vans and get them from Cee Baileys- they are the same price. Cee Baileys are set to go with minimal trimming, better quality too. I have the windscreen. If you are on a budget, Chris is giving them away at half the price. Pascal From: Michael Kraus Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 8:29 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: complete window set for sale Someone eat the up, a new windshield is over $400 and each window is over $100!! Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Jun 30, 2011, at 10:17 AM, "Chris Hukill" wrote: I have all four windows and windshield, never unpacked, for sale.Pick up in Las Vegas, or pay for shipping. $500 for all. 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Bob ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:32:02 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH 2011 and the HQ From: Robin Marks As a observation we tried to use Google Latitude while at Bonnaroo last month and the accuracy (in that instance) was not acceptable. We could be standing next to each other and it had us as close to each other as we were to the Walmart a mile away. Hopefully it will work better at OSH. Robin Do Not Archive On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Phillip Perry wrote: > I'll be wondering around the area from Sat -> Friday. > > If anyone uses Google Latitude to share GPS positions with friends, I'll be > happy to add you to my list. I'll have my phone with me and you'll know > where I am. If you see I'm close by - come chase me down and we'll shake > hands. > > I suspect there will be quite a bit more activity in the RV-10 parking > section now. There are more flying planes and it's the best place for > builders to cross paths. > > Phil > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > >> >> Since I haven't seen anything come out from anyone else, >> I just wanted to put this out there so people could think >> about their arrangements a bit. This isn't perhaps >> the final story, but if there is anything else coming >> down the line, you'll hear it I'm sure from someone else. >> >> Back a few years ago, we started the OSH RV-10 HQ. >> Bob and Gary stuck with it longer than I did as far as >> doing the majority of the pre-work to make sure that >> all the RV-10 folk could camp together. It actually >> takes a fair amount of time to create the lists, figure >> out who's coming, who's paid, and to get everyone to >> reliably provide all of the necessary info to get a >> campsite in their name, and not always was everyone >> prompt. Once the time came to get the sites, it's a >> fair amount of work to buy the supplies for staking them >> out, and to physically stake them out...all the while >> trying to ensure that everyone would have the proper >> amount of space for their rig. Once arrivals started >> happening, there was often need to adjust things, >> either due to camper preferences, or an individual's >> space requirements. Arrivals also meant that people >> would show up at all hours, expecting usually Bob or >> Gary to stop what they were doing and make it to the >> gate to give the car pass credentials and get them to >> their site. This was probably not a big deal during >> the pre-show-start days, but once you get to the point >> where the show starts, like for folks who showed up >> Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and so on, it's kind of >> a pain to walk back to camp and interrupt your day, >> go to the gate, and back to camp, and then have to >> get back to what you're doing. I'm sure these hassles >> contributed to the lack of interest in organizing >> the group for 2011. If it were possible to reserve >> a block with the EAA without all these hassles, I'm >> sure it could be a different story, but that's not >> the way camping works there. If everyone arrived >> pre-show on the weekend, it would also probably have >> been much easier. And if everyone were able to pre-pay >> for their site themselves (which is an option this >> year, actually), that would have taken the burden of >> money collection off of the guys. >> >> To cut to the chase, at present, none of the past organizers >> including myself, are up for being the coordinator of all >> of this for 2011. So before we get into July, where >> people all start asking what's going on for the RV-10 HQ, >> I thought I'd let you know for planning sake that there >> likely is nothing going on. Maybe somebody will jump >> in and want to organize it, and if so, there would >> likely be some people wanting to help, but I'm not sure. >> Part of the issue is that one of the significant advantages >> of the HQ was that people showed up 1 week prior, staking >> the sites, allowing you to have a very close campsite to >> the entry gates. So in order to have an HQ and have it >> be located similarly, you'd need to have someone onsite >> at least 4 or 5 days prior to the show. I'm not sure >> that any of the people who WOULD volunteer, COULD do >> this. >> >> So just so that people aren't sitting and waiting for the >> news for 2011, I just thought I'd put this out there. >> It at least gives you time to make your plan. >> >> If there indeed is someone who thinks they'd want to >> take on the project, shoot an email to the list >> and it's about time to get things underway, as we're >> about 20 days from when sites would normally be >> staked out. >> >> As for me personally, I'll likely be located somewhere >> near the same place as the last few years, and I'll >> see some of you at the show! >> >> -- >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD >> do not archive >> >> ====**==============================**= >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/**Navigator?RV10-List >> ====**==============================**= >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ====**==============================**= >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/**contribution >> ====**==============================**= >> >> >> >> > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:15:27 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: KIT CONTENTS From: "mds4878" Does anybody have a list of the contents in the finish kit bags? Thanks. Mike Schulz mike@profishenterprises.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344531#344531 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:28:16 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: KIT CONTENTS From: Kelly McMullen http://www.myrv10.com/tips/kits/index.html On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 3:10 PM, mds4878 wrote: > > Does anybody have a list of the contents in the finish kit bags? > Thanks. > > Mike Schulz > mike@profishenterprises.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344531#344531 > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:56:00 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: KIT CONTENTS From: "mds4878" Thank You. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344536#344536 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:10:00 PM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Baffle advice Here's the final result. There's about 1/8" gap between the fuel line and the bracket. I may take a little more off, just for a safety margin. From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:28 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Baffle advice Cut the bracket. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:50 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: RV10-List: stick grip I'm trying to decide which stick grip to install ..... the choices are not insignificant. I'd like to know what the flying RV-10s are using for their stick grip and their recommendations. A few questions: Which grip did you choose and why. Did it meet your expectations? Did you find that you needed more functions? Which ones? Would you list the buttons you have and their function? Do you wish you'd installed another grip, and why? If you want to reply directly, I'll post a summary in a week or two. Linn ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:31:51 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Flying Magazine/Dan Lloyd/Aftermath From: Jeff Carpenter Dan Lloyd is the subject of the Aftermath column in this months issue of Flying Magazine. 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