---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 07/02/11: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:03 AM - Re: Re: stick grip (Dave Saylor) 2. 05:56 AM - Re: Sold on whiskers - Redux (Jesse Saint) 3. 06:08 AM - Re: Sold on whiskers - Redux (Kelly McMullen) 4. 06:22 AM - Re: Sold on whiskers - Redux (Jesse Saint) 5. 06:46 AM - Re: Sold on whiskers - Redux (Les Kearney) 6. 07:16 AM - Re: Sold on whiskers - Redux (Sean Stephens) 7. 07:58 AM - Re: Sold on whiskers - Redux (Les Kearney) 8. 08:41 AM - Airventure Camper Rentals Available (bcondrey) 9. 11:20 AM - Re: Flying Magazine/Dan Lloyd/Aftermath (Bob Turner) 10. 11:24 AM - Boulder area airports (John Ackerman) 11. 12:42 PM - Re: Sold on whiskers - Redux (Kelly McMullen) 12. 01:17 PM - Re: Boulder area airports (Linn Walters) 13. 01:34 PM - Re: Boulder area airports (Kelly McMullen) 14. 05:56 PM - WxWorx REWX9ID USB Weather Receiver For Sale... (Matt Dralle) 15. 10:51 PM - Re: Flying Magazine/Dan Lloyd/Aftermath (woxofswa) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:58 AM PST US From: Dave Saylor Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: stick grip Oops, I didn't see the image either--my grips are from Vans. Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: > I have the same setup as Mike. I'm happy with it, but it took a few changes. > > For one, I originally had the trim in the upper left corner, and the > AP disconnect in the lower right corner. I'm describing the left > side. The right side is a mirror image. Each one kind of felt > natural under my thumb. But I found that especially on take-off, if I > didn't have the trim quite right for the load, that it was pretty > difficult to push on the stick (which happens with your thumb) while > also reaching up with my thumb to trim the nose down. Many times I > ended up pushing with one hand and trimming with the other. Two > annuals ago I swapped the two buttons and now it's much easier to trim > and push at the same time. > > The other change was to put a guard on the AP button. It was pretty > easy to accidentally push it with a map, especially on the right side. > It's just a simple dish that protects the button. > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters > 140 Aviation Way > Watsonville, CA 95076 > 831-722-9141Shop > 831-750-0284Cell > > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Michael Kraus > wrote: >> I used the Teak wooden grips on my RV-4 and liked them so much that I am using them on my RV-10. I have the coolie hat for trim, a PTT and an autopilot disconnect. I am very happy with them. >> -Mike Kraus >> 40013, 19.8 hours >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:57 PM, "Bob Turner" wrote: >> >>> >>> I have the Tosten on the left stick, and like the feel of it. I just use 3 functions: top hat for trim, trigger for PTT, and right rear button for autopilot disconnect. The right stick has an inexpensive Allen (I think) grip with just PTT. I don't want passengers hitting the trim switch. I installed the Allen rocker trim switch in the right-center panel, easily reached by either pilot, as a second way of running trim from the left seat or the main way from the right. My Trio autopilot will also run the trim, automatically or manually. >>> >>> I have the trim speeds set so the left stick runs full speed; the panel rocker runs a little slower; and the Trio auto-adjusts to run fast when airspeed is low, and runs trim slowly when airspeed is high. >>> >>> -------- >>> Bob Turner >>> RV-10 QB >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344639#344639 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> =================================== >> =================================== >> =================================== >> =================================== >>> >>> >>> >> >> 

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>> > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:34 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sold on whiskers - Redux From: Jesse Saint Les, Actually, to use one antenna for an SL-30 and a GNS-430, you need two separate items. You need a special splitter for the SL-30 that gives both VOR and G/S to both outlets, because the SL-30 needs both into one antenna connector. Then you need a Diplexer that splits VOR from G/S and gives them each to a separate antenna connector in the 430. Stein should be able to tell you the actual parts used. Unless something has changed, this is how I have had to use one antenna for both the SL-30 and the GNS-430. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Jul 1, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Les Kearney wrote: > > > * Given a SL30 / GNS 430 WAAS combo, I expect that I will need a TRIPLEXER > to split a single NAV signal into a NAV/GS for the 4030 and a NAV signal for > the SL30 (which I understand has an internal splitter). Is this correct. > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:39 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sold on whiskers - Redux From: Kelly McMullen I think I heard the new 650 has single hookup like the SL30. You sure wouldn't want to be hooking up any obsolete stuff in that new airplane. ;-)) On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Les Kearney wrote: > > Hi > > After reading this thread, I thought I would revisit my antenna decisions. > Although I have a Bob Archer (uninstalled) antenna, I think the "sold on > whiskers" thread makes this to be a less than optimal antenna choice. > > So my questions are: > > * Given a SL30 / GNS 430 WAAS combo, I expect that I will need a TRIPLEXER > to split a single NAV signal into a NAV/GS for the 4030 and a NAV signal for > the SL30 (which I understand has an internal splitter). Is this correct. > > * Is there any difference, other than cost, to the RA Allen and Comant VOR / > LOC / GS antennas. One is $130 and the other $290 ($CDN). > > Inquiring minds need to know.... > > Cheers > > Les > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:04 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sold on whiskers - Redux From: Jesse Saint Not obsolete, just not the newest stuff out there. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > I think I heard the new 650 has single hookup like the SL30. You sure > wouldn't want to be hooking up any obsolete stuff in that new > airplane. ;-)) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:31 AM PST US From: "Les Kearney" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sold on whiskers - Redux Hi Jessie Thanks for the info. By any chance would this be what you are referring to (as a signal splitter so I can use use two radios off one antenna)? http://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/avpages/comantsplitter5120.php I already have the GNS430 slitter to split the antenna signal into the the two 430 inputs. Regards Les -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: July-02-11 6:51 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sold on whiskers - Redux Les, Actually, to use one antenna for an SL-30 and a GNS-430, you need two separate items. You need a special splitter for the SL-30 that gives both VOR and G/S to both outlets, because the SL-30 needs both into one antenna connector. Then you need a Diplexer that splits VOR from G/S and gives them each to a separate antenna connector in the 430. Stein should be able to tell you the actual parts used. Unless something has changed, this is how I have had to use one antenna for both the SL-30 and the GNS-430. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Jul 1, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Les Kearney wrote: > > > * Given a SL30 / GNS 430 WAAS combo, I expect that I will need a > TRIPLEXER to split a single NAV signal into a NAV/GS for the 4030 and > a NAV signal for the SL30 (which I understand has an internal splitter). Is this correct. > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:34 AM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sold on whiskers - Redux From antenna to a Garmin 013-00112-00 (http://www.avionicsmall.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=8183) with one output direct to the SL-30 and the other into a Comant CI-507 diplexer (http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/coupler507.php) to feed the 430. -Sean On 7/2/11 8:43 AM, Les Kearney wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Les Kearney" > > Hi Jessie > > Thanks for the info. By any chance would this be what you are referring to > (as a signal splitter so I can use use two radios off one antenna)? > http://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/avpages/comantsplitter5120.php > > I already have the GNS430 slitter to split the antenna signal into the the > two 430 inputs. > > Regards > > Les > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint > Sent: July-02-11 6:51 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sold on whiskers - Redux > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint > > Les, > > Actually, to use one antenna for an SL-30 and a GNS-430, you need two > separate items. You need a special splitter for the SL-30 that gives both > VOR and G/S to both outlets, because the SL-30 needs both into one antenna > connector. Then you need a Diplexer that splits VOR from G/S and gives them > each to a separate antenna connector in the 430. Stein should be able to > tell you the actual parts used. Unless something has changed, this is how I > have had to use one antenna for both the SL-30 and the GNS-430. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > C: 352-427-0285 > F: 815-377-3694 > > On Jul 1, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Les Kearney wrote: >> >> * Given a SL30 / GNS 430 WAAS combo, I expect that I will need a >> TRIPLEXER to split a single NAV signal into a NAV/GS for the 4030 and >> a NAV signal for the SL30 (which I understand has an internal splitter). > Is this correct. > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:33 AM PST US From: Les Kearney Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sold on whiskers - Redux Kelly Its not obsolete (like us!). It's a classic. Cheers Les Sent from my iPhone On 2011-07-02, at 7:05 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > I think I heard the new 650 has single hookup like the SL30. You sure > wouldn't want to be hooking up any obsolete stuff in that new > airplane. ;-)) > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Les Kearney wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> After reading this thread, I thought I would revisit my antenna decisions. >> Although I have a Bob Archer (uninstalled) antenna, I think the "sold on >> whiskers" thread makes this to be a less than optimal antenna choice. >> >> So my questions are: >> >> * Given a SL30 / GNS 430 WAAS combo, I expect that I will need a TRIPLEXER >> to split a single NAV signal into a NAV/GS for the 4030 and a NAV signal for >> the SL30 (which I understand has an internal splitter). Is this correct. >> >> * Is there any difference, other than cost, to the RA Allen and Comant VOR / >> LOC / GS antennas. One is $130 and the other $290 ($CDN). >> >> Inquiring minds need to know.... >> >> Cheers >> >> Les >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:56 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Airventure Camper Rentals Available From: "bcondrey" I received this today because of past involvement in coordinating with them for setting up RVs in the RV-10 group area. If interested please contact them directly. He mentions a donation to the "RV-10 group" for each camper but since there isn't a formal group this year maybe you can discuss a discount instead. Bob ------------------------------------------------------------- Bob, We have met you in the past when we have dropped off rental campers for some of your group. My wife Cindy and I have been renting campers at EAA Airventure for 13 years. First under our prior company Fox Valley RV Rental and now Event RV Rental as we have discontinued day to day rentals other than EAA. Your group can check out our website: www.eventrv.com to view the available campers. We have the units discounted as the event is getting close and we want to book all of our available campers. Make sure the renter mentions they are with the RV-10 group. Well keep a list and when we see you to drop the campers we will make our donation. I would like to see how this goes for 2011 and maybe we can continue the program into 2012. I am very big on network marketing as it goes much further than other modes. If you want to give us a call our phone number is 920-756-2494. Or you may e-mail us back at eventrv@frontier.com Dan & Cindy Push Event RV Rental, LLC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344689#344689 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:20:41 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flying Magazine/Dan Lloyd/Aftermath From: "Bob Turner" My understanding is that the engine quit while over a corn field. It appears he tried to stretch the glide to a nearby road? At any rate, the aircraft impacted a perfectly good field nose-first. Certainly appears to be an unintentional stall at too low an altitude to recover. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344702#344702 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:24:36 AM PST US From: John Ackerman Subject: RV10-List: Boulder area airports Hey folks- We'll be flying into Boulder, CO for a couple days to and from OSH. Any suggestions for airports/FBOs? On the way out, we'll probably take a fuel break at Las Vegas NM (KLVS.) Thanks Marlys and John Ackerman ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:42:53 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sold on whiskers - Redux Figured I could get a rise.....with all these folks installing bleeding edge avionics. I assume you are putting in a trusty ADF or two to navigate around your fine country? I was just looking at the route along the AlCan Highway and I don't recall it being a dashed line in the past, and I didn't see VHF airways that I recall being their in the past. On 7/2/2011 7:55 AM, Les Kearney wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Les Kearney > > Kelly > > Its not obsolete (like us!). It's a classic. > > Cheers > > Les > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2011-07-02, at 7:05 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen >> >> I think I heard the new 650 has single hookup like the SL30. You sure >> wouldn't want to be hooking up any obsolete stuff in that new >> airplane. ;-)) >> >> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Les Kearney wrote: >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Les Kearney" >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> After reading this thread, I thought I would revisit my antenna decisions. >>> Although I have a Bob Archer (uninstalled) antenna, I think the "sold on >>> whiskers" thread makes this to be a less than optimal antenna choice. >>> >>> So my questions are: >>> >>> * Given a SL30 / GNS 430 WAAS combo, I expect that I will need a TRIPLEXER >>> to split a single NAV signal into a NAV/GS for the 4030 and a NAV signal for >>> the SL30 (which I understand has an internal splitter). Is this correct. >>> >>> * Is there any difference, other than cost, to the RA Allen and Comant VOR / >>> LOC / GS antennas. One is $130 and the other $290 ($CDN). >>> >>> Inquiring minds need to know.... >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Les >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:17:03 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: Boulder area airports On 7/2/2011 2:22 PM, John Ackerman wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: John Ackerman > > Hey folks- > We'll be flying into Boulder, CO for a couple days to and from OSH. Any suggestions for airports/FBOs? > On the way out, we'll probably take a fuel break at Las Vegas NM (KLVS.) And you think avgas is expensive!!! :-P Linn > Thanks > Marlys and John Ackerman > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:34:28 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Boulder area airports John, the Boulder airport itself if fine, but you need to be familiar with their glider pattern, and powered patterns. There is self-serve fuel. There really is only one FBO. There is an Enterprise office about 1 mi away if you need a car, but like most they are closed Sat. noon to Mon. morning. There may be a little cheaper fuel at Vance Brand, Longmont. I've never been in there so can't comment. Alomosa or Raton would be much cheaper fuel than LVS. When I go to Boulder, I usually top off at St. Johns, then go direct. On 7/2/2011 11:22 AM, John Ackerman wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: John Ackerman > > Hey folks- > We'll be flying into Boulder, CO for a couple days to and from OSH. Any suggestions for airports/FBOs? > On the way out, we'll probably take a fuel break at Las Vegas NM (KLVS.) > Thanks > Marlys and John Ackerman > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:56:45 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV10-List: WxWorx REWX9ID USB Weather Receiver For Sale... I have a 1-year old WxWorx REWX9ID USB XM Aircraft Weather and XM Audio receiver for sale. It was just removed from my RV-8 and is in perfect working order. Includes Antenna, Mount, Receiver Unit, and USB Interface. It is compatible with the Grand Rapids EFISs and a number of others. Gives text and graphical representations of weather including Rain, Wind, Temp, etc. Requires separate monthly XM subscription which is not included in this offering. Attached are some pictures of the actual unit for sale. Works great and I wouldn't fly without a similar product. I'm replacing the functionality with an ADS-B receiver. Additional information on the unit can be found here: https://www.wxworx.com/portable-receiver-overview https://www.wxworx.com/interface-modules Aircraft Spruce has the unit for $595: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/fl190True.php I will take $400 firm for the unit as shown plus $10 for shipping. First come, first served. Email me with questions. I can accept PayPal http://www.paypal.com using "dralle@matronics.com" or I can accept Visa/MC directly. I will take a 2.5% discount for a check, but it will have to clear before I ship. Best regards, Matt Dralle - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Rebuild - Post Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:51:20 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flying Magazine/Dan Lloyd/Aftermath From: "woxofswa" I joined the community right before this tragic accident. Rightly or wrongly, my impression after reading the article is to place more blame on the engine packager than I previously felt. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, finishing kit in progress. 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