---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/06/11: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:00 AM - Re: Greg Hale is in Sport Aviation this month (Wayne Edgerton) 2. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area (Kelly McMullen) 3. 07:58 AM - Re: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area (Tim Olson) 4. 08:10 AM - Re: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area (Kelly McMullen) 5. 08:45 AM - Re: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area (Tim Olson) 6. 09:49 AM - Re: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area (Robin Marks) 7. 03:51 PM - External Brake Lines - crack (E & T Andrews) 8. 04:50 PM - Re: External Brake Lines - crack (gary) 9. 05:05 PM - Re: External Brake Lines - crack (Bill Schlatterer) 10. 06:10 PM - Re: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area (Bill Watson) 11. 06:26 PM - Re: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area (Kelly McMullen) 12. 10:41 PM - OT: iPad2 Jailbreak is out! (Tim Olson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:07 AM PST US From: "Wayne Edgerton" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Greg Hale is in Sport Aviation this month Number one I think Greg's plane looks really great. Mine is also quite heavy, 1750, and my rationale was the same as Greg's, I built it the way I wanted it and I said the weight will have to be what it will be. I also usually only fly alone or with one other person. On occasion I'll take folks up for a ride and fill the plane. I have a hangar mate who's a retired Air Force Col, former B52 pilot, and during his military flying years they concluded that carrying excess fuel was inefficient in many ways. He's now converted me, somewhat, to that idea and I usually only maintain 30 to 40 gals of fuel on board, thus reducing my weight up to 170 to 200 lbs. If I go cross country, depending on the distance, then I fill it up. But going cross country for me usually doesn't include a full load of passengers. Several years back I flew up through Alaska and stopped in at Van's for a tour of their factory. I found the tour very interesting. While I was on the ramp Van came out to talk. I told him right away that I know his mission and my mission with the plane is different. I told him I built it the way I wanted it and the weight is what it is. He said he understood but that he looks at everything as an engineer and to him weight is speed and other efficiencies that come with a lighter weight. We talked for about 30 minutes or more and he is an enjoyable person to talk to. He never made me feel I shouldn't have built it the way I did. He's a very interesting guy. Anyway I guess what I'm saying is that I'm with Greg. Your building a plane for your use so make it the way you want it as long as the changes you're making isn't outside the norm of tested things, i.e. items that haven't been completely tested, remember Dan Lloyd. Much of the weight on mine came from full interior, built in O2, and a few other avionic items. I've not yet experienced a problem with my plane weighing a little more than Van's and I also used the recommended gross weight of 2700 lbs. I really haven't seen that much loss of speed when compared to others. Wayne Edgerton N602WT Time: 09:22:32 PM PST US Subject: Re: Greg Hale is in Sport Aviation this month From: "greghale" Guys I understand where Van's coming from, but the whole idea of building my own airplane is to be able to personalize the airplane the way I want it. I have posted a '"My thoughts and explanations" on my web site to show my point of view. My gross weight is 2700#. http://www.nwacaptain.com/my_thoughts.pdf Greg... -------- Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH www.nwacaptain.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345069#345069 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area From: Kelly McMullen For the benefit of those that don't know what we are discussing, and what you *really* don't want to fly into, here is photo from front page of today's Arizona Republic. On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:55 PM, John Ackerman wrote: > Interestingly, we never saw this in the Anthem area on the N edge of > Phoenix. Some fog about 10 PM though, when the first rain hit the hot houses > and pavement, then heavy rain. Ain't nature wonderful when viewed from the > ground? > John Ackerman > > On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > Ya think I could spray some epoxy on it for a sanding coat? :'( > > > On 7/5/2011 9:58 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: > > > > Bluh. Like fiberglass fallout without the progress...I'll take earthquakes! > > Do not archive > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters > 140 Aviation Way > Watsonville, CA 95076 > 831-722-9141 Shop > 831-750-0284 Cell > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:36 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area So is that the definition of "Hard IFR" whereas the easy stuff is just being in the clouds? Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 7/6/2011 9:10 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > For the benefit of those that don't know what we are discussing, and > what you *really* don't want to fly into, here is photo from front > page of today's Arizona Republic. > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:55 PM, John Ackerman wrote: >> Interestingly, we never saw this in the Anthem area on the N edge of >> Phoenix. Some fog about 10 PM though, when the first rain hit the hot houses >> and pavement, then heavy rain. Ain't nature wonderful when viewed from the >> ground? >> John Ackerman >> >> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >> >> Ya think I could spray some epoxy on it for a sanding coat? :'( >> >> >> On 7/5/2011 9:58 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: >> >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Dave Saylor >> >> >> Bluh. Like fiberglass fallout without the progress...I'll take earthquakes! >> >> Do not archive >> >> Dave Saylor >> AirCrafters >> 140 Aviation Way >> Watsonville, CA 95076 >> 831-722-9141 Shop >> 831-750-0284 Cell >> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area From: Kelly McMullen I suppose so, when you consider those dust clouds will have similar but not quite as bad effect on your paint, windows and engine as a volcanic ash cloud. Phx Sky Harbor was closed for over an hour. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > So is that the definition of "Hard IFR" whereas the easy stuff > is just being in the clouds? > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > On 7/6/2011 9:10 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >> >> For the benefit of those that don't know what we are discussing, and >> what you *really* don't want to fly into, here is photo from front >> page of today's Arizona Republic. >> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:55 PM, John Ackerman >> wrote: >>> >>> Interestingly, we never saw this in the Anthem area on the N edge of >>> Phoenix. Some fog about 10 PM though, when the first rain hit the hot >>> houses >>> and pavement, then heavy rain. Ain't nature wonderful when viewed from >>> the >>> ground? >>> John Ackerman >>> >>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >>> >>> Ya think I could spray some epoxy on it for a sanding coat? :'( >>> >>> >>> On 7/5/2011 9:58 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Bluh. Like fiberglass fallout without the progress...I'll take >>> earthquakes! >>> >>> Do not archive >>> >>> Dave Saylor >>> AirCrafters >>> 140 Aviation Way >>> Watsonville, CA 95076 >>> 831-722-9141Shop >>> 831-750-0284Cell >>> >>> >>> >>> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:29 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area So that's what you fly into with Synthetic vision, as a preparation for a new paint job and windshield...it does the surface prep and windshield removal for you. :) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 7/6/2011 10:07 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen > > I suppose so, when you consider those dust clouds will have similar > but not quite as bad effect on your paint, windows and engine as a > volcanic ash cloud. Phx Sky Harbor was closed for over an hour. > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Tim Olson wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson >> >> So is that the definition of "Hard IFR" whereas the easy stuff >> is just being in the clouds? >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD >> do not archive >> >> >> On 7/6/2011 9:10 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >>> >>> For the benefit of those that don't know what we are discussing, and >>> what you *really* don't want to fly into, here is photo from front >>> page of today's Arizona Republic. >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:55 PM, John Ackerman >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Interestingly, we never saw this in the Anthem area on the N edge of >>>> Phoenix. Some fog about 10 PM though, when the first rain hit the hot >>>> houses >>>> and pavement, then heavy rain. Ain't nature wonderful when viewed from >>>> the >>>> ground? >>>> John Ackerman >>>> >>>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >>>> >>>> Ya think I could spray some epoxy on it for a sanding coat? :'( >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/5/2011 9:58 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: >>>> >>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Dave Saylor >>>> >>>> >>>> Bluh. Like fiberglass fallout without the progress...I'll take >>>> earthquakes! >>>> >>>> Do not archive >>>> >>>> Dave Saylor >>>> AirCrafters >>>> 140 Aviation Way >>>> Watsonville, CA 95076 >>>> 831-722-9141 Shop >>>> 831-750-0284 Cell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:56 AM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area I recall landing Palm Springs for a quick overnight turnaround. Beautiful weather, crystal clear skies so I ALMOST didn't put my full length cover on the Turbo Lance II. I said to myself don't be so lazy and pulled out the cover. A horrific sand storm passed through the area delaying my departure by ~4 days. When I arrived at the tie down there was a layer of dust & crap covering every inch of the exterior even on the underside of the wings & belly. Removing the cover really demonstrated what damage could have been done to the glass. The plane looked like the ultimate Farmers Tan with the cover off. The main lesson I learned from this is... Don't be lazy. Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:10 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area For the benefit of those that don't know what we are discussing, and what you *really* don't want to fly into, here is photo from front page of today's Arizona Republic. On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:55 PM, John Ackerman wrote: > Interestingly, we never saw this in the Anthem area on the N edge of > Phoenix. Some fog about 10 PM though, when the first rain hit the hot > houses and pavement, then heavy rain. Ain't nature wonderful when > viewed from the ground? > John Ackerman > > On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > Ya think I could spray some epoxy on it for a sanding coat? :'( > > > On 7/5/2011 9:58 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: > > > > Bluh. Like fiberglass fallout without the progress...I'll take earthquakes! > > Do not archive > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters > 140 Aviation Way > Watsonville, CA 95076 > 831-722-9141 Shop > 831-750-0284 Cell > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:26 PM PST US From: "E & T Andrews" Subject: RV10-List: External Brake Lines - crack Everyone, I have found a fatigue crack in one of my external brake lines just outside the fuselage where the aluminium tube curves back to the gear leg. I noticed my brake fluid down on the left hand side after my flight and then went to investigate. On my previous flight, I had inspected the wheel region and pumped up the tires and no leak was evident... so the final failure must have occurred on my last flight. I am now planning to replace the solid aluminium tube with flexible hoses as per Tim=99s web page. For the last 18 months I have operated out of a grass airfield that I expect has contributed to the extra movement in the gear during taxi and landing etc. Has anyone found any issues with use of flexible brake hoses and if so what hose type did you use? Evan Andrews RV10 150hrs Flying ====== Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17870) http://www.pctools.com/ ====== ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:50:40 PM PST US From: "gary" Subject: RE: RV10-List: External Brake Lines - crack I too fly on grass and had the same issue as you. I replaced them with Bonaco. They have the lengths you need, you don't even have to measure. Gary Specketer _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of E & T Andrews Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 5:47 PM Subject: RV10-List: External Brake Lines - crack Everyone, I have found a fatigue crack in one of my external brake lines just outside the fuselage where the aluminium tube curves back to the gear leg. I noticed my brake fluid down on the left hand side after my flight and then went to investigate. On my previous flight, I had inspected the wheel region and pumped up the tires and no leak was evident... so the final failure must have occurred on my last flight. I am now planning to replace the solid aluminium tube with flexible hoses as per Tim's web page. For the last 18 months I have operated out of a grass airfield that I expect has contributed to the extra movement in the gear during taxi and landing etc. Has anyone found any issues with use of flexible brake hoses and if so what hose type did you use? Evan Andrews RV10 150hrs Flying ====== Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17870) http://www.pctools.com ======= ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:05:09 PM PST US From: "Bill Schlatterer" Subject: RE: RV10-List: External Brake Lines - crack Bonoco will have the lines ready made for your make and model. Super quality with abrasion sleeving over braid. Using them on my 7 and love them. 50 hours and no apparent wear at all. Bill S 7a _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of E & T Andrews Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 5:47 PM Subject: RV10-List: External Brake Lines - crack Everyone, I have found a fatigue crack in one of my external brake lines just outside the fuselage where the aluminium tube curves back to the gear leg. I noticed my brake fluid down on the left hand side after my flight and then went to investigate. On my previous flight, I had inspected the wheel region and pumped up the tires and no leak was evident... so the final failure must have occurred on my last flight. I am now planning to replace the solid aluminium tube with flexible hoses as per Tim's web page. For the last 18 months I have operated out of a grass airfield that I expect has contributed to the extra movement in the gear during taxi and landing etc. Has anyone found any issues with use of flexible brake hoses and if so what hose type did you use? Evan Andrews RV10 150hrs Flying ====== Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17870) http://www.pctools.com ======= ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:10:21 PM PST US From: Bill Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area So is this the outflow from a big storm? Looks like the ones I've seen in TX and NM back in my glider days... at first I turned and ran but realized other racers were riding them.... nothing like it! No fun on the ground though, especially for a big city. Bill "working the punch list" Watson On 7/6/2011 10:10 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > For the benefit of those that don't know what we are discussing, and > what you *really* don't want to fly into, here is photo from front > page of today's Arizona Republic. > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Desert sandstorm PHX area From: Kelly McMullen Usually it is the leading edge of a big storm, yes, outflow. Storms often roll in off the mountains down from 7000 ft to 1000 ft elevation, so a lot of energy is incorporated. Yesterday's storm had 50-70mph winds for over an hour, and that picks up a lot of dirt from the desert. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Bill Watson wrote: > > So is this the outflow from a big storm? > > Looks like the ones I've seen in TX and NM back in my glider days... at > first I turned and ran but realized other racers were riding them.... > nothing like it! No fun on the ground though, especially for a big city. > > Bill "working the punch list" Watson > > On 7/6/2011 10:10 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >> >> For the benefit of those that don't know what we are discussing, and >> what you *really* don't want to fly into, here is photo from front >> page of today's Arizona Republic. >> > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:41:39 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: OT: iPad2 Jailbreak is out! For those who have an iPad2 and want to jailbreak it, it's been a long wait for the guys to come out with a public way to do it, and tonight it arrived. It's the simplest jailbreak yet. It supports these devices: iPad1: 4.3 through 4.3.3 iPad2: 4.3.3 iPhone3GS: 4.3 through 4.3.3 iPhone4: 4.3 through 4.3.3 iPhone4-CDMA: 4.2.6 through 4.2.8 iPod touch 3g: 4.3, 4.3.2, 4.3.3 iPod touch 4g: 4.3 through 4.3.3 It's the fastest, easiest, and least technical (to the end user) jailbreak yet. You just go to http://jailbreakme.com and click on the FREE button on Cydia's screen, and then hit the INSTALL button when it turns green. Then Cydia (the other app store) will install, and you'll be jailbroken and have access to all the other apps. SBSETTINGS is an app that I can't do without, so it's great to have. REMOVEBG (removes background process apps from running) is another one that's real handy. Anyway, if you want to jailbreak, update to 4.3.3 and do it right away. Once apple releases 4.3.4, you may not be able to do this again for many months. Oh, and once you're jailbroken, you can patch the flaw that they exploited by installing "PDF Patcher 2" so that malicious sites can't mess with your ipad. -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.