---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/14/11: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:58 AM - Re: Spacers under windows (Phillip Perry) 2. 09:37 AM - Re: Spacers under windows (Jeff Carpenter) 3. 09:42 AM - Re: Spacers under windows (Jim Berry) 4. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: Spacers under windows (Michael Kraus) 5. 10:10 AM - Re: Spacers under windows (Rene Felker) 6. 10:24 AM - Re: Re: Spacers under windows (DLM) 7. 10:38 AM - Re: Re: Spacers under windows (Seano) 8. 12:40 PM - Re: Spacers under windows (Pascal) 9. 03:40 PM - Re: Spacers under windows (rv10flyer) 10. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: Spacers under windows (Carl Froehlich) 11. 06:50 PM - TIRES AND TUBES (mds4878) 12. 07:16 PM - Re: TIRES AND TUBES (Linn Walters) 13. 08:06 PM - Re: TIRES AND TUBES (Kelly McMullen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:19 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spacers under windows From: Phillip Perry I guess everyone used spacers - huh?? :) On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Phil Perry wrote: > > Life got in the way for a bit but I'm back on track building and airplane > again....... > > Curious to know how many people installed washers under their plexiglas at > the time they were installed. Mine sit proud enough as it is and I'd really > prefer not to use them if possible. Any results from those who didn't use > them and how long have you been flying? > > Hope to catch some of you at Osh this year.... > > Phil > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:57 AM PST US From: Jeff Carpenter Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spacers under windows I did not use spacers... but did level out the recessed areas with flox using the windows as forms Jeff Carpenter 40304 On Jul 14, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Phillip Perry wrote: > I guess everyone used spacers - huh?? > > :) > > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Phil Perry > wrote: > > Life got in the way for a bit but I'm back on track building and > airplane again....... > > Curious to know how many people installed washers under their > plexiglas at the time they were installed. Mine sit proud enough as > it is and I'd really prefer not to use them if possible. Any > results from those who didn't use them and how long have you been > flying? > > Hope to catch some of you at Osh this year.... > > Phil > > ========== > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:42:58 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Spacers under windows From: "Jim Berry" As I recall, the only reason to use spacers is if the plexi sits below the fiberglass. Jim Berry N15JB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346330#346330 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:09:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Spacers under windows From: Michael Kraus I didn't use spacers at all on any windows. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:40 PM, "Jim Berry" wrote: > > As I recall, the only reason to use spacers is if the plexi sits below the fiberglass. > > Jim Berry > N15JB > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346330#346330 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:10:55 AM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Spacers under windows I used one or two total for all 4 windows..if I remember correctly. J Rene' Felker N423CF 801-721-6080 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip Perry Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:55 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spacers under windows I guess everyone used spacers - huh?? :) On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Phil Perry wrote: Life got in the way for a bit but I'm back on track building and airplane again....... Curious to know how many people installed washers under their plexiglas at the time they were installed. Mine sit proud enough as it is and I'd really prefer not to use them if possible. Any results from those who didn't use them and how long have you been flying? Hope to catch some of you at Osh this year.... Phil ========== arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:02 AM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Spacers under windows Be sure to add two one inch biased glass strips around the external frame to prevent the flange line appearing out of the paint in a hindered hours or so. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Berry" Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:40 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Spacers under windows > > As I recall, the only reason to use spacers is if the plexi sits below the > fiberglass. > > Jim Berry > N15JB > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346330#346330 > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:18 AM PST US From: "Seano" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Spacers under windows I did use spacers but thinking back I wish I would have let the plexi sit low and carve a little of the cabin down to accept the thickness of the glass tape around the windows. That way it wouldn't have been such a big job to transition the hump out of the glass tape around the windows to the cabin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Berry" Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:40 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Spacers under windows > > As I recall, the only reason to use spacers is if the plexi sits below the > fiberglass. > > Jim Berry > N15JB > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346330#346330 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:40:23 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spacers under windows The purpose of the spacers is to fill a gap. Sounds like that is not your issue. Leave it I say! From: Phillip Perry Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:55 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spacers under windows I guess everyone used spacers - huh?? :) On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Phil Perry wrote: Life got in the way for a bit but I'm back on track building and airplane again....... Curious to know how many people installed washers under their plexiglas at the time they were installed. Mine sit proud enough as it is and I'd really prefer not to use them if possible. Any results from those who didn't use them and how long have you been flying? Hope to catch some of you at Osh this year.... Phil ========== arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:40:44 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Spacers under windows From: "rv10flyer" No washers, just the thicker Weld-On 45 to fill any gaps. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08 Bldr# 40983 SB Started 12/1/09. Fuselage Sec 46 Eng mount/Gear- 1359 hrs to date. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346388#346388 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:25:59 PM PST US From: "Carl Froehlich" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Spacers under windows No washers and no Weld-On. I used Hysol (http://shop.lancair.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=9360-QT&CatId={992B7B06-E01B -4918-BB0C-79343CDB7869} adding just a little flox to thicken as required (this is enough Hysol for 2 or 3 RV-10s). I used clamps to make the glass panels flush with the canopy cut outs, letting it sit for 24 hours before removing the clamps. The Hysol is full strength after a week or so. I did add a narrow two bid layup over the window/canopy junction to prevent the window paint cracking problem. Carl Froehlich RV-8A (650 hrs) RV-10 (moving the fuselage into the paint booth this weekend) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv10flyer Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 6:37 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Spacers under windows No washers, just the thicker Weld-On 45 to fill any gaps. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08 Bldr# 40983 SB Started 12/1/09. Fuselage Sec 46 Eng mount/Gear- 1359 hrs to date. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346388#346388 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:50:24 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: TIRES AND TUBES From: "mds4878" I'm looking at Michelin Aviator tires. My question is Leakguard tubes or Michelin tubes and why? Also is Michelin good or bad. -------- RV-10 #40447 Fuselage almost done. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346418#346418 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:16:33 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: TIRES AND TUBES I don't know the answer to your question, but it got me to thinking .... which may not be a good thing. I wonder why we can't use the tire puncture sealer in a can to seal the standard aircraft tube? You should be able to use one can to seal all three tubes. You could distribute the sealer inside the tube really well before installing the tubes in the tire. Also Michelin makes Airstop tubes. I think the Leakguard are Aero Classic. Linn On 7/14/2011 9:47 PM, mds4878 wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "mds4878" > > I'm looking at Michelin Aviator tires. > My question is Leakguard tubes or Michelin tubes and why? > Also is Michelin good or bad. > > -------- > RV-10 #40447 > Fuselage almost done. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346418#346418 > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:08 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: TIRES AND TUBES From: Kelly McMullen Leakguard work fine. They may be sourced through Desser's recap division. Depends on what objective is for tire. Most cost effective, or top of the line, what ever perceived benefit that is, or something else. If you want aramid belted, top of the line Goodyear is the only one. If you want new but low cost, Condor(by Michelin) through Desser is probably best buy. Or if you are okay with recap, Desser on W coast or Wilkerson on E coast are your sources. Van supplies Specialty Tires(aka McCreary) which seem to be favorite of flight schools. On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Linn Walters wrote: > > I don't know the answer to your question, but it got me to thinking .... > which may not be a good thing. > I wonder why we can't use the tire puncture sealer in a can to seal the > standard aircraft tube? You should be able to use one can to seal all three > tubes. You could distribute the sealer inside the tube really well before > installing the tubes in the tire. > > Also Michelin makes Airstop tubes. I think the Leakguard are Aero Classic. > Linn > > > On 7/14/2011 9:47 PM, mds4878 wrote: > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "mds4878" >> > >> >> I'm looking at Michelin Aviator tires. >> My question is Leakguard tubes or Michelin tubes and why? >> Also is Michelin good or bad. >> >> -------- >> RV-10 #40447 >> Fuselage almost done. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/**viewtopic.php?p=346418#346418 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.