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1. 05:03 AM - Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (orchidman)
2. 05:16 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (Shannon Hicks)
3. 05:29 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (Bob Leffler)
4. 05:31 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (Bob Leffler)
5. 05:38 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (Shannon Hicks)
6. 05:51 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (Kelly McMullen)
7. 05:51 AM - =?Windows-1252?Q?The_Model_367_=93BiPod=94_hybrid_flying_car_designed_by_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?Burt_Rutan? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
8. 06:28 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (Bob Leffler)
9. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (Dave Saylor)
10. 07:02 AM - -10 Plans (Shannon Hicks)
11. 07:11 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (Tim Olson)
12. 07:30 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (Kelly McMullen)
13. 07:32 AM - Re: -10 Plans (DLM)
14. 08:24 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (Linn Walters)
15. 08:56 AM - Re: -10 Plans (Pascal)
16. 09:26 AM - Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (orchidman)
17. 10:11 AM - Re: Re: -10 Plans (civeng123@gmail.com)
18. 10:27 AM - Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (jayb)
19. 10:49 AM - Re: Re: -10 Plans (Matthew Collier)
20. 11:02 AM - Re: Re: -10 Plans (Shannon Hicks)
21. 12:31 PM - Abe's Tiedowns for OSH (Tim Olson)
22. 12:52 PM - Re: Abe's Tiedowns for OSH (Linn Walters)
23. 01:11 PM - Oshkosh wireless sites (Fred Williams, M.D.)
24. 01:14 PM - Re: Abe's Tiedowns for OSH (Tim Olson)
25. 01:25 PM - Re: Abe's Tiedowns for OSH (Linn Walters)
26. 01:35 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (jayb)
27. 01:36 PM - Re: Oshkosh wireless sites (Rick Beebe)
28. 01:53 PM - Re: Oshkosh wireless sites (Bob Leffler)
29. 02:04 PM - Re: -10 Plans (James Stribling)
30. 02:06 PM - Re: Re: -10 Plans (James Stribling)
31. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: -10 Plans (Shannon Hicks)
32. 02:41 PM - Re: Oshkosh wireless sites (Fred Williams, M.D.)
33. 02:49 PM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (Kelly McMullen)
34. 03:30 PM - GPS antenna (Linn Walters)
35. 03:48 PM - Re: GPS antenna (Kelly McMullen)
36. 03:56 PM - Re: Abe's Tiedowns for OSH (Paul Bowmar)
37. 04:51 PM - Re: GPS antenna (Michael Kraus)
38. 05:20 PM - Re: Oshkosh wireless sites (Bob Condrey)
39. 09:01 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> Missing from the package, it seemed to me were:
>
> 1ea Installation Manual
> 1ea Instruction Manual
> 1ea Wiring Diagram
> 2ea BNC connectors for Terminating Antenna Cable
> 1ea UAT Antenna
> 1ea GPS Antenna
>
>
Sorry to hear but that is correct. I have talked to Bill many times getting my
unit up and running. The manual should be or should have been sent as a pdf
by email. The wiring is in the manual. What EFIS are you conecting it to? They
have some of the units/makes in the manual, other wise the EFIS mfg should
be assisting in the wiring.
I don't know why Bill doesn't include the BNC's with the unit for the 'other end'
of the cables, other then the length of the cables is unknown and the types
of antennas is not known.
Bill offers a UAT antenna on his web site but you can go with several others.
There is a list of GPS antennas compatible. I went with the Garmin GA-56 witch
is the old 430 (non-WAAS) antenna. Got it for $50 from a local AV shop. They
are surplus when GA planes upgrade from the 430 to the 430W.
I know you don't have a -10 but in my -10 I installed the 600B just behind the
aft baggage bulkhead. The UAT antenna is mounted about 12" from the unit in the
floor of the tail section and the GPS is mounted under the fiber glass cover
between the tail section and the vertical stab.
Note: When you get it all installed, if you are using the GA-56, there is a printout
that you will call back from the unit to your computer while you are testing
it outside. It will give you all the diagnostics and what is really going
on. If you are not getting 7 satellites or more, call Bill to see if they
installed the extra filtering. It seems that some of the older -56 units put
out to much noise and the 600B can't keep track of things. I had to send my unit
back and they updated it and all is working now.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347145#347145
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
Is it necessary to install an external GPS antenna if you have a 430W? I
thought you could get the GPS data from it.
Shannon
On Jul 20, 2011 7:07 AM, "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
>
>
> Matt Dralle wrote:
>>
>> Missing from the package, it seemed to me were:
>>
>> 1ea Installation Manual
>> 1ea Instruction Manual
>> 1ea Wiring Diagram
>> 2ea BNC connectors for Terminating Antenna Cable
>> 1ea UAT Antenna
>> 1ea GPS Antenna
>>
>>
>
> Sorry to hear but that is correct. I have talked to Bill many times
getting my unit up and running. The manual should be or should have been
sent as a pdf by email. The wiring is in the manual. What EFIS are you
conecting it to? They have some of the units/makes in the manual, other wise
the EFIS mfg should be assisting in the wiring.
> I don't know why Bill doesn't include the BNC's with the unit for the
'other end' of the cables, other then the length of the cables is unknown
and the types of antennas is not known.
> Bill offers a UAT antenna on his web site but you can go with several
others. There is a list of GPS antennas compatible. I went with the Garmin
GA-56 witch is the old 430 (non-WAAS) antenna. Got it for $50 from a local
AV shop. They are surplus when GA planes upgrade from the 430 to the 430W.
> I know you don't have a -10 but in my -10 I installed the 600B just behind
the aft baggage bulkhead. The UAT antenna is mounted about 12" from the unit
in the floor of the tail section and the GPS is mounted under the fiber
glass cover between the tail section and the vertical stab.
>
> Note: When you get it all installed, if you are using the GA-56, there is
a printout that you will call back from the unit to your computer while you
are testing it outside. It will give you all the diagnostics and what is
really going on. If you are not getting 7 satellites or more, call Bill to
see if they installed the extra filtering. It seems that some of the older
-56 units put out to much noise and the 600B can't keep track of things. I
had to send my unit back and they updated it and all is working now.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> (N2GB Flying)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347145#347145
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
I didn't know the ga-56 was supported. It wasn't listed in the manual that I have.
I guess I need to get an updated manual. I'm currently stuck in his backlog
queue waiting for mine to arrive.
I'm surprised that your not having reception issues with the antenna under the
empennage fairing. The garmin install manual states to stay clear of the VS.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:00 AM, "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
>
>
> Matt Dralle wrote:
>>
>> Missing from the package, it seemed to me were:
>>
>> 1ea Installation Manual
>> 1ea Instruction Manual
>> 1ea Wiring Diagram
>> 2ea BNC connectors for Terminating Antenna Cable
>> 1ea UAT Antenna
>> 1ea GPS Antenna
>>
>>
>
> Sorry to hear but that is correct. I have talked to Bill many times getting
my unit up and running. The manual should be or should have been sent as a pdf
by email. The wiring is in the manual. What EFIS are you conecting it to?
They have some of the units/makes in the manual, other wise the EFIS mfg should
be assisting in the wiring.
> I don't know why Bill doesn't include the BNC's with the unit for the 'other
end' of the cables, other then the length of the cables is unknown and the types
of antennas is not known.
> Bill offers a UAT antenna on his web site but you can go with several others.
There is a list of GPS antennas compatible. I went with the Garmin GA-56 witch
is the old 430 (non-WAAS) antenna. Got it for $50 from a local AV shop.
They are surplus when GA planes upgrade from the 430 to the 430W.
> I know you don't have a -10 but in my -10 I installed the 600B just behind the
aft baggage bulkhead. The UAT antenna is mounted about 12" from the unit in
the floor of the tail section and the GPS is mounted under the fiber glass cover
between the tail section and the vertical stab.
>
> Note: When you get it all installed, if you are using the GA-56, there is a
printout that you will call back from the unit to your computer while you are
testing it outside. It will give you all the diagnostics and what is really going
on. If you are not getting 7 satellites or more, call Bill to see if they
installed the extra filtering. It seems that some of the older -56 units put
out to much noise and the 600B can't keep track of things. I had to send my
unit back and they updated it and all is working now.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> (N2GB Flying)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347145#347145
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
The ads600-b has an internal gps, all you have to supply is the antenna.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it necessary to install an external GPS antenna if you have a 430W? I t
hought you could get the GPS data from it.
>
> Shannon
>
> On Jul 20, 2011 7:07 AM, "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Matt Dralle wrote:
> >>
> >> Missing from the package, it seemed to me were:
> >>
> >> 1ea Installation Manual
> >> 1ea Instruction Manual
> >> 1ea Wiring Diagram
> >> 2ea BNC connectors for Terminating Antenna Cable
> >> 1ea UAT Antenna
> >> 1ea GPS Antenna
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Sorry to hear but that is correct. I have talked to Bill many times gett
ing my unit up and running. The manual should be or should have been sent as
a pdf by email. The wiring is in the manual. What EFIS are you conecting it
to? They have some of the units/makes in the manual, other wise the EFIS mf
g should be assisting in the wiring.
> > I don't know why Bill doesn't include the BNC's with the unit for the 'o
ther end' of the cables, other then the length of the cables is unknown and t
he types of antennas is not known.
> > Bill offers a UAT antenna on his web site but you can go with several ot
hers. There is a list of GPS antennas compatible. I went with the Garmin GA-
56 witch is the old 430 (non-WAAS) antenna. Got it for $50 from a local AV s
hop. They are surplus when GA planes upgrade from the 430 to the 430W.
> > I know you don't have a -10 but in my -10 I installed the 600B just behi
nd the aft baggage bulkhead. The UAT antenna is mounted about 12" from the u
nit in the floor of the tail section and the GPS is mounted under the fiber g
lass cover between the tail section and the vertical stab.
> >
> > Note: When you get it all installed, if you are using the GA-56, there i
s a printout that you will call back from the unit to your computer while yo
u are testing it outside. It will give you all the diagnostics and what is r
eally going on. If you are not getting 7 satellites or more, call Bill to se
e if they installed the extra filtering. It seems that some of the older -56
units put out to much noise and the 600B can't keep track of things. I had t
o send my unit back and they updated it and all is working now.
> >
> > --------
> > Gary Blankenbiller
> > RV10 - # 40674
> > (N2GB Flying)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347145#347145
> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com
/Navigator?RV10-List
> ://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> min.
>
> >
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
I was trying to avoid a third GPS antenna if possible.
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
> The ads600-b has an internal gps, all you have to supply is the antenna.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is it necessary to install an external GPS antenna if you have a 430W? I
> thought you could get the GPS data from it.
>
> Shannon
> On Jul 20, 2011 7:07 AM, "orchidman" < <gary@wingscc.com>gary@wingscc.com>
> wrote:
> gary@wingscc.com>
> >
> >
> > Matt Dralle wrote:
> >>
> >> Missing from the package, it seemed to me were:
> >>
> >> 1ea Installation Manual
> >> 1ea Instruction Manual
> >> 1ea Wiring Diagram
> >> 2ea BNC connectors for Terminating Antenna Cable
> >> 1ea UAT Antenna
> >> 1ea GPS Antenna
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Sorry to hear but that is correct. I have talked to Bill many times
> getting my unit up and running. The manual should be or should have been
> sent as a pdf by email. The wiring is in the manual. What EFIS are you
> conecting it to? They have some of the units/makes in the manual, other wise
> the EFIS mfg should be assisting in the wiring.
> > I don't know why Bill doesn't include the BNC's with the unit for the
> 'other end' of the cables, other then the length of the cables is unknown
> and the types of antennas is not known.
> > Bill offers a UAT antenna on his web site but you can go with several
> others. There is a list of GPS antennas compatible. I went with the Garmin
> GA-56 witch is the old 430 (non-WAAS) antenna. Got it for $50 from a local
> AV shop. They are surplus when GA planes upgrade from the 430 to the 430W.
> > I know you don't have a -10 but in my -10 I installed the 600B just
> behind the aft baggage bulkhead. The UAT antenna is mounted about 12" from
> the unit in the floor of the tail section and the GPS is mounted under the
> fiber glass cover between the tail section and the vertical stab.
> >
> > Note: When you get it all installed, if you are using the GA-56, there is
> a printout that you will call back from the unit to your computer while you
> are testing it outside. It will give you all the diagnostics and what is
> really going on. If you are not getting 7 satellites or more, call Bill to
> see if they installed the extra filtering. It seems that some of the older
> -56 units put out to much noise and the 600B can't keep track of things. I
> had to send my unit back and they updated it and all is working now.
> >
> > --------
> > Gary Blankenbiller
> > RV10 - # 40674
> > (N2GB Flying)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > <http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347145#347145>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347145#347145
> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"><http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> ://forums.matronics.com"> <http://forums.matronics.com>
> http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
One does have to wonder just how many satellites you would miss that
were shadowed by the vertical stab. Seems like you would still have more
than 300 degree view of the sky there.
Has anyone had success with GPS antenna under the cabin cover(without
making holes in the fiberglass)? Seems like there shouldn't be a problem
behind the door posts where there is no honeycomb.
On 7/20/2011 5:26 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
>
>
> I'm surprised that your not having reception issues with the antenna under the
empennage fairing. The garmin install manual states to stay clear of the VS.
>
>
> On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:00 AM, "orchidman"<gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
>
>
>> The UAT antenna is mounted about 12" from the unit in the floor of the tail
section and the GPS is mounted under the fiber glass cover between the tail
section and the vertical stab.
>>
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| Subject: | =?Windows-1252?Q?The_Model_367_=93BiPod=94_hybrid_flying_car_designed_by_?= |
=?Windows-1252?Q?Burt_Rutan?
With the tribute to Burt at Airventure, this seemed rather pertinent=85.
http://www.gizmag.com/bipod-hybrid-flying-car/19258/
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
I know the feeling, I have four.
Gtn-650
Ads600b
Aprs
Garmin/afs for efis backup
Fortunately, two can sit on the glareshield
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was trying to avoid a third GPS antenna if possible.
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
> The ads600-b has an internal gps, all you have to supply is the antenna.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it necessary to install an external GPS antenna if you have a 430W? I
thought you could get the GPS data from it.
>>
>> Shannon
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2011 7:07 AM, "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Matt Dralle wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Missing from the package, it seemed to me were:
>> >>
>> >> 1ea Installation Manual
>> >> 1ea Instruction Manual
>> >> 1ea Wiring Diagram
>> >> 2ea BNC connectors for Terminating Antenna Cable
>> >> 1ea UAT Antenna
>> >> 1ea GPS Antenna
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Sorry to hear but that is correct. I have talked to Bill many times get
ting my unit up and running. The manual should be or should have been sent a
s a pdf by email. The wiring is in the manual. What EFIS are you conecting i
t to? They have some of the units/makes in the manual, other wise the EFIS m
fg should be assisting in the wiring.
>> > I don't know why Bill doesn't include the BNC's with the unit for the '
other end' of the cables, other then the length of the cables is unknown and
the types of antennas is not known.
>> > Bill offers a UAT antenna on his web site but you can go with several o
thers. There is a list of GPS antennas compatible. I went with the Garmin GA
-56 witch is the old 430 (non-WAAS) antenna. Got it for $50 from a local AV s
hop. They are surplus when GA planes upgrade from the 430 to the 430W.
>> > I know you don't have a -10 but in my -10 I installed the 600B just beh
ind the aft baggage bulkhead. The UAT antenna is mounted about 12" from the u
nit in the floor of the tail section and the GPS is mounted under the fiber g
lass cover between the tail section and the vertical stab.
>> >
>> > Note: When you get it all installed, if you are using the GA-56, there i
s a printout that you will call back from the unit to your computer while yo
u are testing it outside. It will give you all the diagnostics and what is r
eally going on. If you are not getting 7 satellites or more, call Bill to se
e if they installed the extra filtering. It seems that some of the older -5
6 units put out to much noise and the 600B can't keep track of things. I had
to send my unit back and they updated it and all is working now.
>> >
>> > --------
>> > Gary Blankenbiller
>> > RV10 - # 40674
>> > (N2GB Flying)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Read this topic online here:
>> >
>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347145#347145
>> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.co
m/Navigator?RV10-List
>> ://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
I tried giving ARINC from a 530W to the 600 for GPS data but it didn't
work. Bill told me (then) that it had to have a dedicated GPS
antenna. I was in a rush so I tried both types of antennas from a 496
with no success, but the small external antenna from a 696 works like
a champ. It sees something like 12 sats, in the hangar.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it necessary to install an external GPS antenna if you have a 430W? I
> thought you could get the GPS data from it.
>
> Shannon
>
> On Jul 20, 2011 7:07 AM, "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Matt Dralle wrote:
>>>
>>> Missing from the package, it seemed to me were:
>>>
>>> 1ea Installation Manual
>>> 1ea Instruction Manual
>>> 1ea Wiring Diagram
>>> 2ea BNC connectors for Terminating Antenna Cable
>>> 1ea UAT Antenna
>>> 1ea GPS Antenna
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Sorry to hear but that is correct. I have talked to Bill many times
>> getting my unit up and running. The manual should be or should have been
>> sent as a pdf by email. The wiring is in the manual. What EFIS are you
>> conecting it to? They have some of the units/makes in the manual, other wise
>> the EFIS mfg should be assisting in the wiring.
>> I don't know why Bill doesn't include the BNC's with the unit for the
>> 'other end' of the cables, other then the length of the cables is unknown
>> and the types of antennas is not known.
>> Bill offers a UAT antenna on his web site but you can go with several
>> others. There is a list of GPS antennas compatible. I went with the Garmin
>> GA-56 witch is the old 430 (non-WAAS) antenna. Got it for $50 from a local
>> AV shop. They are surplus when GA planes upgrade from the 430 to the 430W.
>> I know you don't have a -10 but in my -10 I installed the 600B just behind
>> the aft baggage bulkhead. The UAT antenna is mounted about 12" from the unit
>> in the floor of the tail section and the GPS is mounted under the fiber
>> glass cover between the tail section and the vertical stab.
>>
>> Note: When you get it all installed, if you are using the GA-56, there is
>> a printout that you will call back from the unit to your computer while you
>> are testing it outside. It will give you all the diagnostics and what is
>> really going on. If you are not getting 7 satellites or more, call Bill to
>> see if they installed the extra filtering. It seems that some of the older
>> -56 units put out to much noise and the 600B can't keep track of things. I
>> had to send my unit back and they updated it and all is working now.
>>
>> --------
>> Gary Blankenbiller
>> RV10 - # 40674
>> (N2GB Flying)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347145#347145
> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> ://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> min.
>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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I have started scanning all of my -10 plans for my own personal use and was
wondering if there would be any issues with making them available for
everyone to see.
Thanks for your input.
Shannon
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
My old GNS-480 antenna is what I used. I had to get a new
antenna when the GNS-480 update was done a couple years
ago. I put it under the VS fairing, which I think Gary
copied from me, not that it matters, but he did it because
I was having great luck there. Normally I wouldn't put
a GPS antenna in a crappy spot, but in this particular
case, the GPS isn't for my own navigation, so I wasn't
as particular. All I need are 4 satellites and it gets
more than that by far.
I myself understand why they don't include the antennas.
It gives you the ability to choose a certified model if
you're putting it in a certified plane, or an experimental
antenna of your choice, and connector type choice. So it
isn't surprising. The sad thing is just the communication
of that being left out should be better, and as we noted,
the .pdf manual should be made available online.
To answer the question on can't you feed it GPS from
some other system, yes you can, but it's a very specific
GPS signal...that has something called TimeMark and
something about pulse-per-second. So if you feed it
an external GPS, it needs to be a specific flavor. To me
it was just as easy to use the built-in and hide the
antenna because I didn't want just one more topside wart
for not reason either. The GNS480 with the latest
software, was able to provide the proper GPS signal.
I'm not sure between the 430/430W/530/530W/and new models
which ones would support that proper GPS signal...but
if you figure that one out and have one that works, you
could use that GPS to feed the ADS600B.
Once you get the system up and running it's pretty slick.
I've had a few flights as of recent, 2 times to OSH now
in the last week, and yesterday I could see traffic over
10 miles away that was going to be a factor, and I was able
to adjust course and bypass them. Last Friday as I was
flying in a MOA, I saw F-somethings in the Restricted
bombing range doing maneuvers, and could watch them zip
around me...they were dang fast. One flew overhead
last week and I could tell that since I was busting into
the MOA, he climbed and did a little circle above me to
get a visual, and then went about his day. I don't
use the WX features, but the traffic is very nice to have
and it blows away my Mode S transponder for traffic.
Also, I'd encourage people with problems with NavWorx or
ANY vendor, to communicate....not just with the forum, but
hound the vendor. You'll find that sometimes you need to
kick the vendor in the pants a little, but if you're nice,
and you ask questions without negative insinuations, you
can develop a good relationship and work through issues
much better. I haven't worked with too many vendors
yet that have been perfect at doing their business...it
seems that even the nice ones have issues sometimes. But,
I've found that by keeping a good relationship you can
end up a very happy customer.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
On 7/20/2011 7:00 AM, orchidman wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "orchidman"<gary@wingscc.com>
>
>
> Matt Dralle wrote:
>>
>> Missing from the package, it seemed to me were:
>>
>> 1ea Installation Manual
>> 1ea Instruction Manual
>> 1ea Wiring Diagram
>> 2ea BNC connectors for Terminating Antenna Cable
>> 1ea UAT Antenna
>> 1ea GPS Antenna
>>
>>
>
> Sorry to hear but that is correct. I have talked to Bill many times getting
my unit up and running. The manual should be or should have been sent as a pdf
by email. The wiring is in the manual. What EFIS are you conecting it to?
They have some of the units/makes in the manual, other wise the EFIS mfg should
be assisting in the wiring.
> I don't know why Bill doesn't include the BNC's with the unit for the 'other
end' of the cables, other then the length of the cables is unknown and the types
of antennas is not known.
> Bill offers a UAT antenna on his web site but you can go with several others.
There is a list of GPS antennas compatible. I went with the Garmin GA-56 witch
is the old 430 (non-WAAS) antenna. Got it for $50 from a local AV shop.
They are surplus when GA planes upgrade from the 430 to the 430W.
> I know you don't have a -10 but in my -10 I installed the 600B just behind the
aft baggage bulkhead. The UAT antenna is mounted about 12" from the unit in
the floor of the tail section and the GPS is mounted under the fiber glass cover
between the tail section and the vertical stab.
>
> Note: When you get it all installed, if you are using the GA-56, there is a
printout that you will call back from the unit to your computer while you are
testing it outside. It will give you all the diagnostics and what is really going
on. If you are not getting 7 satellites or more, call Bill to see if they
installed the extra filtering. It seems that some of the older -56 units put
out to much noise and the 600B can't keep track of things. I had to send my
unit back and they updated it and all is working now.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> (N2GB Flying)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347145#347145
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
There is a gentleman on VAF offering a GPS antenna as a decal that can
go top center of the windshield behind the center post. Uses a BNC
connector and price IIRC is reasonable. I expect to use one for one of
GPSs.
On 7/20/2011 7:08 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> My old GNS-480 antenna is what I used. I had to get a new
> antenna when the GNS-480 update was done a couple years
> ago.
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Check Tim's site . already done.
----- Original Message -----
From: Shannon Hicks
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:59 AM
Subject: RV10-List: -10 Plans
I have started scanning all of my -10 plans for my own personal use
and was wondering if there would be any issues with making them
available for everyone to see.
Thanks for your input.
Shannon
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
I think the FG is still pretty thick back there. The VS fairing would
be thinner ...... and there's a whole lot of aircraft out there flying
with the GPS antenna on the glareshield.
I like the glareshield mountiung .... shorter coax, less weight (those
ounces add up!) and easier installation.
Linn
On 7/20/2011 8:48 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> One does have to wonder just how many satellites you would miss that
> were shadowed by the vertical stab. Seems like you would still have
> more than 300 degree view of the sky there.
> Has anyone had success with GPS antenna under the cabin cover(without
> making holes in the fiberglass)? Seems like there shouldn't be a
> problem behind the door posts where there is no honeycomb.
>
>
> On 7/20/2011 5:26 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm surprised that your not having reception issues with the antenna
>> under the empennage fairing. The garmin install manual states to
>> stay clear of the VS.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:00 AM, "orchidman"<gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The UAT antenna is mounted about 12" from the unit in the floor of
>>> the tail section and the GPS is mounted under the fiber glass cover
>>> between the tail section and the vertical stab.
>
>
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Actually Tim took it down a year ago. It is not legal to copy the plans
and distribute.
The best suggestion is ask Vans if you can do it and if so, do it and
state so.
Pascal
From: DLM
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: -10 Plans
Check Tim's site . already done.
----- Original Message -----
From: Shannon Hicks
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:59 AM
Subject: RV10-List: -10 Plans
I have started scanning all of my -10 plans for my own personal use
and was wondering if there would be any issues with making them
available for everyone to see.
Thanks for your input.
Shannon
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
rleffler wrote:
> I didn't know the ga-56 was supported. It wasn't listed in the manual that I
have. I guess I need to get an updated manual. I'm currently stuck in his
backlog queue waiting for mine to arrive.
>
It's not listed even in the new manual but it is pulling in 12 sats.
> I'm surprised that your not having reception issues with the antenna under the
empennage fairing. The garmin install manual states to stay clear of the VS.
Works great. I seem to be pulling in at least 9 and mostly 12. I mounted it the
same place Tim mounted his antenna (different type though). The front 2 screws
go into the turtle back, and the coax comes up on the aft side of the bulkhead.
The only sat that would be blocked would be any one directly over head
and aft.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
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Thanks Guys. I was afraid that there might be some copyright issues
involved. Right now I have them in my Google Docs with access restricted to
only those that have permission. Right now, that is just me and a friend
that is helping me out. It is handy to have them available when away from
the hanger if a question or concern comes up.
Shannon
On , Pascal <rv10flyer@verizon.net> wrote:
> Actually Tim took it down a year ago. It is not legal to copy the plans
> and
> distribute.
> The best suggestion is ask Vans if you can do it and if so, do it and
> state
> so.
> Pascal
> From: DLM
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:30 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: -10 Plans
> Check Tim's site . already done.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Shannon
> Hicks
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:59
> AM
> Subject: RV10-List: -10 Plans
> I have started scanning all of my -10 plans for my own
> personal use and was wondering if there would be any issues with making
> them
> available for everyone to see.
> Thanks for your
> input.
> Shannon
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
Bill said a GA35 GPS antenna works fine. CI-105 works for the xponder.
Garmin 430W, etc. don't support digital antenna out stream (and may never). So
you have no choice but to use the built-in ADS600 GPS + extra antenna.
I found a manual on their website, but can't seem to locate it now. Navworx sent
me the latest version: "ADS600-B Installation Manual 240-0008-00-14.pdf" (email
me offline if you wish to get a copy).
The newer doc has at least one addition that I hadn't noticed before: ADS600 Pin35
"Transponder Suppression Input". The power wire size (two inputs) is way oversubscribed
for the required current draw.
I'm planning to pull wire for ADS600 connections to external connector to facilitate
easy future access / expansion as required.
Notes from Bill at Navworx:
1) GTX330 to ADS600 shows shield grounds on both ends of ARINC connection. Only
one shield ground is required.
Notes from Carlos at GRT:
1) GRT doesn't currently support built-in Maintenance Serial port connects shown
for HX display in WD-1008-00.pdf GRT doc. Wire to DB9 as shown in Navworx install
doc.
2) ADS600-Pin25 "TISA TX" to EFIS is not supported by GRT. I don't know why...
ADS600 offers ARINC connect to GTX330, so maybe it doesn't matter.
3) EFIS Serial Out 7 "Display TX" to ADS600 is not supported at present. Okay to
wire, but leave it turned off in the EFIS for now.
So my 3 screen GRT to ADS600B connections are as follows:
ADS600: Maint Port RX-Pin 4 --- To DB9 for PC
ADS600: Maint Port TX-Pin 22 --- To DB9 for PC
ADS600: Maint Port GND-Pin 3 --- To DB9 for PC
ADS600: ALT Enc Serial RX-Pin 7 --- To GRT DU1A-Pin1 (Serial Out 6)
ADS600: ALT TIS TX-Pin 25 --- Not Connected
ADS600: ALT Enc GND-Pin6 --- To GRT DU1A-Pin17 GND
ADS600: Display Serial TX-Pin 5 --- To GRT DU1B,2A,3A-Pin23 (Serial IN 7)
ADS600: Display Serial RX-Pin 24 --- To GRT DU2B-Pin22 (Serial OUT 7) Note: Wired,
but GRT Port to be disabled.
~~~ Other connections are
ADS600: ARINC IN1B-Pin28 --- To GTX330 ARINC OUT2B-Pin28
ADS600: ARINC IN1A-Pin09 --- To GTX330 ARINC OUT2A-Pin30
ADS600: UAT Fail OUT-Pin 14 --- Wire to ext connector for future use
ADS600: Transponder Suppression Input-Pin35 --- Wire to ext connector for future
use.
Regards,
Jay
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Subject: Re: RV10-List: -10 Plans
Shannon,
How about making them available to anyone with a valid RV-10 customer number
with Vans? I think it would be a very helpful option Van's could even offer
if you sent them the file.
Matthew
RV-10 phase 1 flight testing
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:08 AM, <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Guys. I was afraid that there might be some copyright issues
> involved. Right now I have them in my Google Docs with access restricted to
> only those that have permission. Right now, that is just me and a friend
> that is helping me out. It is handy to have them available when away from
> the hanger if a question or concern comes up.
>
> Shannon
>
>
> On , Pascal <rv10flyer@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Actually Tim took it down a year ago. It is not legal to copy the plans
> and
> > distribute.
> >
> > The best suggestion is ask Vans if you can do it and if so, do it and
> state
> > so.
> >
> > Pascal
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: DLM
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:30 AM
> >
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: -10 Plans
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Check Tim's site . already done.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From:
> > Shannon
> > Hicks
> >
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:59
> > AM
> >
> > Subject: RV10-List: -10 Plans
> >
> >
> > I have started scanning all of my -10 plans for my own
> > personal use and was wondering if there would be any issues with making
> them
> > available for everyone to see.
> >
> > Thanks for your
> > input.
> >
> > Shannon
> >
> >
> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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> >
> >
> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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> >
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> >
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I just spoke with Van's and they do not have a problem with me sharing the
plans with other -10 builders. They just don't want them accessible to
everyone in the world with an internet connection.
If anyone would like to have access to them, please email me directly along
with your builder number and I will get you access to the plans.
Shannon
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Matthew Collier <ivdiggs@gmail.com> wrote:
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: -10 Plans
>
> Shannon,
> How about making them available to anyone with a valid RV-10 customer
> number with Vans? I think it would be a very helpful option Van's could even
> offer if you sent them the file.
>
> Matthew
> RV-10 phase 1 flight testing
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:08 AM, <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Guys. I was afraid that there might be some copyright issues
>> involved. Right now I have them in my Google Docs with access restricted to
>> only those that have permission. Right now, that is just me and a friend
>> that is helping me out. It is handy to have them available when away from
>> the hanger if a question or concern comes up.
>>
>> Shannon
>>
>>
>> On , Pascal <rv10flyer@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Actually Tim took it down a year ago. It is not legal to copy the plans
>> and
>> > distribute.
>> >
>> > The best suggestion is ask Vans if you can do it and if so, do it and
>> state
>> > so.
>> >
>> > Pascal
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: DLM
>> >
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:30 AM
>> >
>> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: -10 Plans
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Check Tim's site . already done.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >
>> > From:
>> > Shannon
>> > Hicks
>> >
>> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> >
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:59
>> > AM
>> >
>> > Subject: RV10-List: -10 Plans
>> >
>> >
>> > I have started scanning all of my -10 plans for my own
>> > personal use and was wondering if there would be any issues with making
>> them
>> > available for everyone to see.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your
>> > input.
>> >
>> > Shannon
>> >
>> >
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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>> >
>> >
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >=========
>> >
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| Subject: | Abe's Tiedowns for OSH |
After the disaster at Sun-N-Fun where the planes flipped all over
the place, I paid attention to the stuff going on when the
discussion turned to tiedowns. At the time, Aviation Consumer
decided to test them after the big blow and get feedback too,
from sun-n-fun attenders. So they did a tie-down comparison
and basically the thrust of it was that The Claw was probably
just slightly on top as the best. But, then came info
about the Storm Force tie down, which purported to be better
yet.
So I watched with interest because I really care about my
plane and care not to have it thrashed at OSH, and every year...
and I mean EVERY year, we get at least one storm going through
that scares the heck out of me. (Remember that bozo with the
stuck horn in camp scholler that sounded like a tornado horn
that one year?) So I wanted to make sure that whatever I
had, it was very very good, if not the best I could practically
do.
Well, after Aviation Consumer did that review, a couple others
that they hadn't heard about were made known to them.
One of them was Abe's Tiedowns...one that I had never heard
of. As it turns out, Abe's tiedowns were vastly stronger
than the other offerings when they tested them.
You can go to Abe's Aviation site here, and see the
Aviation Consumer review and test. http://www.abesaviation.com/
(actually, it looks like the link on their site has
gotten mixed up but either google it or go to youtube here)
Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIuYK_eEQ9c
Google: "Aviation Consumer's Tiedown Shootout"
The way the test turned out, they used an engine hoist
to test them, and the Abe's were so strong that the
engine hoist wouldn't do it without tipping over so they
hooked up a truck, and pulled to 1000lbs and the tires
on the truck spun without pulling the tiedown anchors out.
I was pretty impressed, and I'd never even heard of them
before.
The Abe's set aren't cheap...I bought the deluxe-5 set
that costs $305, but there are cheaper options if you
wish. I got them last week and opened them up and
saw that they were really nice, made of stainless. They're
going to be a little heavier in the 5-set that I got, than
my claw set, but the anchoring hold is much much stronger.
My thought is that if I were going somewhere for a simple
overnight, perhaps I'd take the claw for weight savings
if it were an issue (it's only about 3 lbs less). But
sometimes you're traveling to a place like OSH. At OSH,
you can't really just LEAVE if a storm is imminent. The
rules don't allow it, and you can't just get up at
9pm and decide to bug out before a huge line of storms
is coming. So for a show like OSH, I don't want my plane
flying around into someone else's, or flipping over, and
I'd gladly haul the best tiedown anchors I could get
for such a show. I know, it's paranoid, but it did just
happen at OSH.
So anyway, I thought I'd pass on the note, since I wasn't
aware of them. I was impressed enough that I asked Abe's
guy to send me some flyers that I can set down by the plane
next to the tiedowns, to have something for people to
grab if they are interested in such a thing. I know it
might not be something you could get in time for OSH,
unless you scramble, but for builders who don't have them,
you may want to stop over and take a peek.
Just thought I'd pass that along.
Tim
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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| Subject: | Re: Abe's Tiedowns for OSH |
The problem I had with the Aviation Consumer test was that they pulled
straight up. Just another data point:
I volunteer at the Aerobatic center .... the tent next to the warbird
ramp ..... and the aircraft on display were tied down with the doggy
screw-in anchors. The storm picked up our tent and flipped it over, but
the aircraft tied down didn't move. Why? All the tiedowns were offset
from the tiedown rings (or the gear legs etc) so the pulling force was
sideways on the stakes. I looked at a large number of aircraft that
were still tied down with the doggy stakes ..... and the stakes were
very close to being right under the tiedown rings. I think they just
dodged the bullet. I have no knowledge of how the damaged aircraft were
tied down, but I'm of the opinion that with the tornado, no tiedown
would have survived.
Look at how the Abes Stakes are laid out. Pulling two flat plates
sideways takes an awesome amount of force.
Linn
On 7/20/2011 3:26 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> After the disaster at Sun-N-Fun where the planes flipped all over
> the place, I paid attention to the stuff going on when the
> discussion turned to tiedowns. At the time, Aviation Consumer
> decided to test them after the big blow and get feedback too,
> from sun-n-fun attenders. So they did a tie-down comparison
> and basically the thrust of it was that The Claw was probably
> just slightly on top as the best. But, then came info
> about the Storm Force tie down, which purported to be better
> yet.
>
> So I watched with interest because I really care about my
> plane and care not to have it thrashed at OSH, and every year...
> and I mean EVERY year, we get at least one storm going through
> that scares the heck out of me. (Remember that bozo with the
> stuck horn in camp scholler that sounded like a tornado horn
> that one year?) So I wanted to make sure that whatever I
> had, it was very very good, if not the best I could practically
> do.
>
> Well, after Aviation Consumer did that review, a couple others
> that they hadn't heard about were made known to them.
> One of them was Abe's Tiedowns...one that I had never heard
> of. As it turns out, Abe's tiedowns were vastly stronger
> than the other offerings when they tested them.
>
> You can go to Abe's Aviation site here, and see the
> Aviation Consumer review and test. http://www.abesaviation.com/
> (actually, it looks like the link on their site has
> gotten mixed up but either google it or go to youtube here)
>
> Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIuYK_eEQ9c
> Google: "Aviation Consumer's Tiedown Shootout"
>
> The way the test turned out, they used an engine hoist
> to test them, and the Abe's were so strong that the
> engine hoist wouldn't do it without tipping over so they
> hooked up a truck, and pulled to 1000lbs and the tires
> on the truck spun without pulling the tiedown anchors out.
> I was pretty impressed, and I'd never even heard of them
> before.
>
> The Abe's set aren't cheap...I bought the deluxe-5 set
> that costs $305, but there are cheaper options if you
> wish. I got them last week and opened them up and
> saw that they were really nice, made of stainless. They're
> going to be a little heavier in the 5-set that I got, than
> my claw set, but the anchoring hold is much much stronger.
> My thought is that if I were going somewhere for a simple
> overnight, perhaps I'd take the claw for weight savings
> if it were an issue (it's only about 3 lbs less). But
> sometimes you're traveling to a place like OSH. At OSH,
> you can't really just LEAVE if a storm is imminent. The
> rules don't allow it, and you can't just get up at
> 9pm and decide to bug out before a huge line of storms
> is coming. So for a show like OSH, I don't want my plane
> flying around into someone else's, or flipping over, and
> I'd gladly haul the best tiedown anchors I could get
> for such a show. I know, it's paranoid, but it did just
> happen at OSH.
>
> So anyway, I thought I'd pass on the note, since I wasn't
> aware of them. I was impressed enough that I asked Abe's
> guy to send me some flyers that I can set down by the plane
> next to the tiedowns, to have something for people to
> grab if they are interested in such a thing. I know it
> might not be something you could get in time for OSH,
> unless you scramble, but for builders who don't have them,
> you may want to stop over and take a peek.
>
> Just thought I'd pass that along.
> Tim
>
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| Subject: | Oshkosh wireless sites |
Can anybody update me on wireless internet connections at Oshkosh?
Where are the good places?
Dr Fred.
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| Subject: | Re: Abe's Tiedowns for OSH |
But with the Claw, that's the company's recommended way to
do it. When you offset a claw tiedown, you'll risk breaking
one of the legs off as a failure.
Also, if you actually watch the video, they DID pull the
stormforce at an angle. So they did just what you said.
The stormforce did look good and I agree it seemed to
be at least as good as the claw.
But as you said, if you're pulling a flat plate sideways
it's gonna have a ton of drag through the soil, and that's
the point....I think there's no way that if you set up
each tie down in it's best configured manner, that any
of the other ones will match what Abe's does. My only
disappointment is the flatter wallet, and 3 lbs of weight
over the claw....that I must confess. But, I think OSH
is the perfect place for such a heavy tiedown.
What would be cool is if you could get these in titanium
for a similar price....that would be perfect.
Oh, and the 3-deluxe kit would be a good way to go
for same-weight traveling as the claw...you'd get a
reduction in hold over the 5-spade model, but you
could effectively carry 3 for your occasional stops,
and 5 for shows like OSH where you're trapped.
I just like passing it on when I see someone doing
something that is clearly a better design.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 7/20/2011 2:48 PM, Linn Walters wrote:
>
> The problem I had with the Aviation Consumer test was that they pulled
> straight up. Just another data point:
> I volunteer at the Aerobatic center .... the tent next to the warbird
> ramp ..... and the aircraft on display were tied down with the doggy
> screw-in anchors. The storm picked up our tent and flipped it over, but
> the aircraft tied down didn't move. Why? All the tiedowns were offset
> from the tiedown rings (or the gear legs etc) so the pulling force was
> sideways on the stakes. I looked at a large number of aircraft that were
> still tied down with the doggy stakes ..... and the stakes were very
> close to being right under the tiedown rings. I think they just dodged
> the bullet. I have no knowledge of how the damaged aircraft were tied
> down, but I'm of the opinion that with the tornado, no tiedown would
> have survived.
>
> Look at how the Abes Stakes are laid out. Pulling two flat plates
> sideways takes an awesome amount of force.
> Linn
>
> On 7/20/2011 3:26 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>> After the disaster at Sun-N-Fun where the planes flipped all over
>> the place, I paid attention to the stuff going on when the
>> discussion turned to tiedowns. At the time, Aviation Consumer
>> decided to test them after the big blow and get feedback too,
>> from sun-n-fun attenders. So they did a tie-down comparison
>> and basically the thrust of it was that The Claw was probably
>> just slightly on top as the best. But, then came info
>> about the Storm Force tie down, which purported to be better
>> yet.
>>
>> So I watched with interest because I really care about my
>> plane and care not to have it thrashed at OSH, and every year...
>> and I mean EVERY year, we get at least one storm going through
>> that scares the heck out of me. (Remember that bozo with the
>> stuck horn in camp scholler that sounded like a tornado horn
>> that one year?) So I wanted to make sure that whatever I
>> had, it was very very good, if not the best I could practically
>> do.
>>
>> Well, after Aviation Consumer did that review, a couple others
>> that they hadn't heard about were made known to them.
>> One of them was Abe's Tiedowns...one that I had never heard
>> of. As it turns out, Abe's tiedowns were vastly stronger
>> than the other offerings when they tested them.
>>
>> You can go to Abe's Aviation site here, and see the
>> Aviation Consumer review and test. http://www.abesaviation.com/
>> (actually, it looks like the link on their site has
>> gotten mixed up but either google it or go to youtube here)
>>
>> Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIuYK_eEQ9c
>> Google: "Aviation Consumer's Tiedown Shootout"
>>
>> The way the test turned out, they used an engine hoist
>> to test them, and the Abe's were so strong that the
>> engine hoist wouldn't do it without tipping over so they
>> hooked up a truck, and pulled to 1000lbs and the tires
>> on the truck spun without pulling the tiedown anchors out.
>> I was pretty impressed, and I'd never even heard of them
>> before.
>>
>> The Abe's set aren't cheap...I bought the deluxe-5 set
>> that costs $305, but there are cheaper options if you
>> wish. I got them last week and opened them up and
>> saw that they were really nice, made of stainless. They're
>> going to be a little heavier in the 5-set that I got, than
>> my claw set, but the anchoring hold is much much stronger.
>> My thought is that if I were going somewhere for a simple
>> overnight, perhaps I'd take the claw for weight savings
>> if it were an issue (it's only about 3 lbs less). But
>> sometimes you're traveling to a place like OSH. At OSH,
>> you can't really just LEAVE if a storm is imminent. The
>> rules don't allow it, and you can't just get up at
>> 9pm and decide to bug out before a huge line of storms
>> is coming. So for a show like OSH, I don't want my plane
>> flying around into someone else's, or flipping over, and
>> I'd gladly haul the best tiedown anchors I could get
>> for such a show. I know, it's paranoid, but it did just
>> happen at OSH.
>>
>> So anyway, I thought I'd pass on the note, since I wasn't
>> aware of them. I was impressed enough that I asked Abe's
>> guy to send me some flyers that I can set down by the plane
>> next to the tiedowns, to have something for people to
>> grab if they are interested in such a thing. I know it
>> might not be something you could get in time for OSH,
>> unless you scramble, but for builders who don't have them,
>> you may want to stop over and take a peek.
>>
>> Just thought I'd pass that along.
>> Tim
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Abe's Tiedowns for OSH |
On 7/20/2011 4:12 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> But with the Claw, that's the company's recommended way to
> do it. When you offset a claw tiedown, you'll risk breaking
> one of the legs off as a failure.
Actually Aviation Consumer broke one straight up.
snip
> I just like passing it on when I see someone doing
> something that is clearly a better design.
Absolutely, and I thank you for that. I didn't know about them either.
I think (bad move) that Airventure banned the doggy stakes?????
Linn
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
Corrections to after additional input from Navworx...
ADS600B connection list for GRT HX:
ADS600: Maint Port RX-Pin 4 --- To DB9 for PC
ADS600: Maint Port TX-Pin 22 --- To DB9 for PC
ADS600: Maint Port GND-Pin28 --- To DB9 for PC
ADS600: ALT Enc Serial RX-Pin 7 --- To GRT DU1A-Pin1 (Serial Out 6)
ADS600: ALT TIS TX-Pin 25 --- Not Connected (provided by Display)
ADS600: ALT Enc GND-Pin6 --- To GRT DU1A-Pin17 GND
ADS600: Display Serial TX-Pin 5 --- To GRT DU1B,2A,3A-Pin23 (Serial IN 7)
ADS600: Display Serial RX-Pin 24 --- To GRT DU2B-Pin22 (Serial OUT 7)
Wire for future GRT support. Disable Serial OUT 7.
~~~ Other connections are
ADS600: ARINC IN1B-Pin28 --- To GTX330 ARINC OUT2B-Pin28
ADS600: ARINC IN1A-Pin09 --- To GTX330 ARINC OUT2A-Pin30
ADS600: UAT Fail OUT-Pin 14 --- Wire to ext connector for future use
ADS600: Transponder Suppression OUT-Pin35 --- Not connected
(provided by GTX330 ARINC)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347209#347209
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh wireless sites |
On 07/20/2011 04:08 PM, Fred Williams, M.D. wrote:
> <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
>
> Can anybody update me on wireless internet connections at Oshkosh? Where
> are the good places?
http://www.airventure.org/news/2011/110718_wifi.html
The AirVenture site map has the hotspots marked on it.
--Rick
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| Subject: | Oshkosh wireless sites |
They're located on the Airventure map this year.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Williams,
M.D.
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:09 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Oshkosh wireless sites
--> <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
Can anybody update me on wireless internet connections at Oshkosh?
Where are the good places?
Dr Fred.
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Mr Hicks,
I would like to share the plans.
James Stribling
Vans # 40140
Thanks
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have started scanning all of my -10 plans for my own personal use and was
> wondering if there would be any issues with making them available for
> everyone to see.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Shannon
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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I forgot to provide my email address: jlstrib@comcast.net
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 1:08 PM, <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Guys. I was afraid that there might be some copyright issues
> involved. Right now I have them in my Google Docs with access restricted to
> only those that have permission. Right now, that is just me and a friend
> that is helping me out. It is handy to have them available when away from
> the hanger if a question or concern comes up.
>
> Shannon
>
>
> On , Pascal <rv10flyer@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Actually Tim took it down a year ago. It is not legal to copy the plans
> and
> > distribute.
> >
> > The best suggestion is ask Vans if you can do it and if so, do it and
> state
> > so.
> >
> > Pascal
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: DLM
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:30 AM
> >
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: -10 Plans
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Check Tim's site . already done.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From:
> > Shannon
> > Hicks
> >
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:59
> > AM
> >
> > Subject: RV10-List: -10 Plans
> >
> >
> > I have started scanning all of my -10 plans for my own
> > personal use and was wondering if there would be any issues with making
> them
> > available for everyone to see.
> >
> > Thanks for your
> > input.
> >
> > Shannon
> >
> >
> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
> >
> >
> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >=========
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
> *
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>
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Invite sent. jlstrib@comcast.net
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:04 PM, James Stribling <jlstrib@comcast.net>wrote:
> I forgot to provide my email address: jlstrib@comcast.net
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 1:08 PM, <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Guys. I was afraid that there might be some copyright issues
>> involved. Right now I have them in my Google Docs with access restricted to
>> only those that have permission. Right now, that is just me and a friend
>> that is helping me out. It is handy to have them available when away from
>> the hanger if a question or concern comes up.
>>
>> Shannon
>>
>>
>> On , Pascal <rv10flyer@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Actually Tim took it down a year ago. It is not legal to copy the plans
>> and
>> > distribute.
>> >
>> > The best suggestion is ask Vans if you can do it and if so, do it and
>> state
>> > so.
>> >
>> > Pascal
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: DLM
>> >
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:30 AM
>> >
>> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: -10 Plans
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Check Tim's site . already done.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >
>> > From:
>> > Shannon
>> > Hicks
>> >
>> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> >
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:59
>> > AM
>> >
>> > Subject: RV10-List: -10 Plans
>> >
>> >
>> > I have started scanning all of my -10 plans for my own
>> > personal use and was wondering if there would be any issues with making
>> them
>> > available for everyone to see.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your
>> > input.
>> >
>> > Shannon
>> >
>> >
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>> >
>> >
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >=========
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> *
>>
>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> ttp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> *
>>
>>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh wireless sites |
Bingo.
I looked at the EAA site, but didn't see that they were listed on the
map. Thanks.
Dr Fred.
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
I was just drilling there this a.m. There is a small gap between the top
and bottom layer, which was perfect for me inserting a cleco, but I
wasn't aware that signal attenuation was of particular concern with
regard to glass thickness, since it allegedly is pretty transparent to RF.
On 7/20/2011 8:21 AM, Linn Walters wrote:
>
> I think the FG is still pretty thick back there. The VS fairing would
> be thinner ...... and there's a whole lot of aircraft out there flying
> with the GPS antenna on the glareshield.
> I like the glareshield mountiung .... shorter coax, less weight (those
> ounces add up!) and easier installation.
> Linn
>
> On 7/20/2011 8:48 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>
>> One does have to wonder just how many satellites you would miss that
>> were shadowed by the vertical stab. Seems like you would still have
>> more than 300 degree view of the sky there.
>> Has anyone had success with GPS antenna under the cabin cover(without
>> making holes in the fiberglass)? Seems like there shouldn't be a
>> problem behind the door posts where there is no honeycomb.
>>
>>
>> On 7/20/2011 5:26 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm surprised that your not having reception issues with the antenna
>>> under the empennage fairing. The garmin install manual states to
>>> stay clear of the VS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:00 AM, "orchidman"<gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The UAT antenna is mounted about 12" from the unit in the floor
>>>> of the tail section and the GPS is mounted under the fiber glass
>>>> cover between the tail section and the vertical stab.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Changed the subject.
On 7/20/2011 5:46 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> I was just drilling there this a.m. There is a small gap between the
> top and bottom layer, which was perfect for me inserting a cleco, but
> I wasn't aware that signal attenuation was of particular concern with
> regard to glass thickness, since it allegedly is pretty transparent to
> RF.
I haven't been able to find any data on the signal degradation of FG
....... but the satellite signal is awful puny by the time it gets
here. The more thickness, the more degradation. I was just comparing
the thickness of the VS fairing Vs. the cabin top. I know there are
antennas out there that work fine under a FG cowl. I wonder how many
antennas are out there working just fine under the cabin top.
Linn
>
>
> On 7/20/2011 8:21 AM, Linn Walters wrote:
>> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> I think the FG is still pretty thick back there. The VS fairing
>> would be thinner ...... and there's a whole lot of aircraft out there
>> flying with the GPS antenna on the glareshield.
>> I like the glareshield mountiung .... shorter coax, less weight
>> (those ounces add up!) and easier installation.
>> Linn
>>
>> On 7/20/2011 8:48 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>>
>>> One does have to wonder just how many satellites you would miss that
>>> were shadowed by the vertical stab. Seems like you would still have
>>> more than 300 degree view of the sky there.
>>> Has anyone had success with GPS antenna under the cabin
>>> cover(without making holes in the fiberglass)? Seems like there
>>> shouldn't be a problem behind the door posts where there is no
>>> honeycomb.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/20/2011 5:26 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm surprised that your not having reception issues with the
>>>> antenna under the empennage fairing. The garmin install manual
>>>> states to stay clear of the VS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:00 AM, "orchidman"<gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The UAT antenna is mounted about 12" from the unit in the floor
>>>>> of the tail section and the GPS is mounted under the fiber glass
>>>>> cover between the tail section and the vertical stab.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Yes, that would be very interesting. I know about the install that was
carved out to be encapsulated "in" the cabin cover and what Vans
opinion was about it, so seeking other options that don't require
something more on top of fuselage. Not saying Vans is right or wrong,
just that would prefer another solution.
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Changed the subject.
>
> I haven't been able to find any data on the signal degradation of FG .......
> but the satellite signal is awful puny by the time it gets here. The more
> thickness, the more degradation. I was just comparing the thickness of the
> VS fairing Vs. the cabin top. I know there are antennas out there that work
> fine under a FG cowl. I wonder how many antennas are out there working just
> fine under the cabin top.
> Linn
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| Subject: | Re: Abe's Tiedowns for OSH |
I bet my tie downs would surpass any and didn't cost three bills. I cut
1/2 inch rebar in 25 inch lengths. Grind a point on one end and heat
the other end with a torch to form a loop. I drive them into the ground
near each other at a 45 degree angle so that when fully in the gowned
the loops are together. Easy to tie the rope through. They are next to
impossible to pull out either straight up or at an angle. And as
recommended by the FAA, they go into the ground about 18 inches. and I
drive them into the ground outward and foreword of the wing ties and
behind the tail. Ah, weight you say. Yes, nine pounds for all six
rebar and a ball peen to drive them in. 2.8 less than Abe's. I have
used these for years at Osh and elsewhere without any problems. I hope
the photos I have attached come through. If anybody is interested in
more info, please contact me offline. My worries at Osh is not that my
rebar tie downs will hold, but what the guy next to is using. I made
these many years ago after surmising that all the products I saw
commercially sold were inadequate.
Paul
RV-4 67KB
On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> After the disaster at Sun-N-Fun where the planes flipped all over
> the place, I paid attention to the stuff going on when the
> discussion turned to tiedowns. At the time, Aviation Consumer
> decided to test them after the big blow and get feedback too,
> from sun-n-fun attenders. So they did a tie-down comparison
> and basically the thrust of it was that The Claw was probably
> just slightly on top as the best. But, then came info
> about the Storm Force tie down, which purported to be better
> yet.
>
> So I watched with interest because I really care about my
> plane and care not to have it thrashed at OSH, and every year...
> and I mean EVERY year, we get at least one storm going through
> that scares the heck out of me. (Remember that bozo with the
> stuck horn in camp scholler that sounded like a tornado horn
> that one year?) So I wanted to make sure that whatever I
> had, it was very very good, if not the best I could practically
> do.
>
> Well, after Aviation Consumer did that review, a couple others
> that they hadn't heard about were made known to them.
> One of them was Abe's Tiedowns...one that I had never heard
> of. As it turns out, Abe's tiedowns were vastly stronger
> than the other offerings when they tested them.
>
> You can go to Abe's Aviation site here, and see the
> Aviation Consumer review and test. http://www.abesaviation.com/
> (actually, it looks like the link on their site has
> gotten mixed up but either google it or go to youtube here)
>
> Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIuYK_eEQ9c
> Google: "Aviation Consumer's Tiedown Shootout"
>
> The way the test turned out, they used an engine hoist
> to test them, and the Abe's were so strong that the
> engine hoist wouldn't do it without tipping over so they
> hooked up a truck, and pulled to 1000lbs and the tires
> on the truck spun without pulling the tiedown anchors out.
> I was pretty impressed, and I'd never even heard of them
> before.
>
> The Abe's set aren't cheap...I bought the deluxe-5 set
> that costs $305, but there are cheaper options if you
> wish. I got them last week and opened them up and
> saw that they were really nice, made of stainless. They're
> going to be a little heavier in the 5-set that I got, than
> my claw set, but the anchoring hold is much much stronger.
> My thought is that if I were going somewhere for a simple
> overnight, perhaps I'd take the claw for weight savings
> if it were an issue (it's only about 3 lbs less). But
> sometimes you're traveling to a place like OSH. At OSH,
> you can't really just LEAVE if a storm is imminent. The
> rules don't allow it, and you can't just get up at
> 9pm and decide to bug out before a huge line of storms
> is coming. So for a show like OSH, I don't want my plane
> flying around into someone else's, or flipping over, and
> I'd gladly haul the best tiedown anchors I could get
> for such a show. I know, it's paranoid, but it did just
> happen at OSH.
>
> So anyway, I thought I'd pass on the note, since I wasn't
> aware of them. I was impressed enough that I asked Abe's
> guy to send me some flyers that I can set down by the plane
> next to the tiedowns, to have something for people to
> grab if they are interested in such a thing. I know it
> might not be something you could get in time for OSH,
> unless you scramble, but for builders who don't have them,
> you may want to stop over and take a peek.
>
> Just thought I'd pass that along.
> Tim
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
>
>
>
>
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All mine are mounted between the firewall and the engine mount, under the cowling.
Worked great for 8 years in my RV-4 and 44 hours in my RV-10.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, that would be very interesting. I know about the install that was
> carved out to be encapsulated "in" the cabin cover and what Vans
> opinion was about it, so seeking other options that don't require
> something more on top of fuselage. Not saying Vans is right or wrong,
> just that would prefer another solution.
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> Changed the subject.
>
>>
>> I haven't been able to find any data on the signal degradation of FG .......
>> but the satellite signal is awful puny by the time it gets here. The more
>> thickness, the more degradation. I was just comparing the thickness of the
>> VS fairing Vs. the cabin top. I know there are antennas out there that work
>> fine under a FG cowl. I wonder how many antennas are out there working just
>> fine under the cabin top.
>> Linn
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh wireless sites |
In response to the other part of the question, it appears to be working
very well so far this year.
Bob
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Fred Williams, M.D. <
drfred@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
> drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
>
> Bingo.
>
> I looked at the EAA site, but didn't see that they were listed on the map.
> Thanks.
>
> Dr Fred.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
Listers,
I got a voicemail and a nice email from Bill at NavWorx this morning. He confirmed
that the unit doesn't normally come with the antennas anymore, but he graciously
offered to send me a UAT antenna free of charge. That was really nice.
Bill also included the latest version of the installation/operation manual
in PDF format along with his email. He said that they are working on adding the
manuals to the web site, probably in August sometime.
So, I'm good to go. I'll report later on my installation experience. Looking
at the wring diagrams, it seems like it should be pretty straightforward connecting
up between the GRT HX's and the 327.
Matt
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
At 07:22 PM 7/19/2011 Tuesday, Matt Dralle wrote:
>Dear Listers,
>
>The NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver kit arrived today. Included in the box were
the following:
>
> 1ea ADS600-B Transceiver Unit
> 1ea DB37 Connector w/ Shell
> 2ea RG-142 BNC Antenna Coax Cables (terminated on one end)
> 1ea Wireless receiver option (802.11)
> 1ea End User License sheet
> 1ea Attention Warning sheet
>
>Missing from the package, it seemed to me were:
>
> 1ea Installation Manual
> 1ea Instruction Manual
> 1ea Wiring Diagram
> 2ea BNC connectors for Terminating Antenna Cable
> 1ea UAT Antenna
> 1ea GPS Antenna
>
>Attached are a couple of pictures of what I received.
>
>Looking over the NavWorx web site, I'm not finding anywhere to download instruction
manuals or installation manuals. Am I suppose to buy the UAT and GPS antennas
separately? I didn't see these available separately on the NavWorx web
site when I ordered the package.
>
>I called and left NavWorx a voicemail.
>
>At this point, I'm kind at a loss...? :-/
>
>Matt
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