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1. 06:04 AM - FAA and AD notices (John Cox)
2. 06:55 AM - Re: FAA and AD notices (Kelly McMullen)
3. 12:57 PM - Re: FAA and AD notices (John Gonzalez)
4. 12:57 PM - 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer (Michael Wellenzohn)
5. 03:38 PM - Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer (Dave Saylor)
6. 04:05 PM - Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer (orchidman)
7. 04:55 PM - Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer (maca2790)
8. 06:13 PM - Re: Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer (Linn Walters)
9. 09:53 PM - Re: Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer (Kelly McMullen)
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| Subject: | FAA and AD notices |
Some time today, Dorinda Baker from the Head FAA legal office will make
a formal announcement clarifying the subject of AD notices and whether
they affect Experimental Builders. The answer has always been under
contention. The Legal Eagles will retain the right to assert ADs for
public safety but the answer is going to be official. NO & Yes, No AD
notes will not be required to be complied with by Experimental Builders.
The FAA is staying out of the fray. Yes, if that builder installs an
Certified Engine and wants to keep his/her options open to sell it in
the future as a "Certified", then owners of certified need to keep &
maintain compliance.
For those who wanted to hear NO - "its coming". For others who deal
with maintaining a Certified Engine/Prop or Appliance.... they will need
to read between the lines and continue to comply with issued ADs to the
Certificated Airframe Manufacturers requirements.
Don't ya just love the new and leaner FAA.
John Cox #40600 from the ground & behind the scenes at OSH '11
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| Subject: | Re: FAA and AD notices |
Even trickier will be avionics, some of which have ADs, when said
avionics are used to comply with requirements for IFR, for ADS-B,
transponder and ELTs...items that must perform to a TSO and probably
can't if the AD isn't complied with.
Would you really want to operate an engine that has an AD against the
crank even if you were experimental? As good as they are, electronic
ignition systems may contribute to crank and prop stresses by their
precise firing, or maybe they help by eliminating some randomness in
the firing. So one always has to pay attention to ADs and make a very
careful analysis of whether it may affect the safety of your engine,
even if you might not technically have to comply.
As always, some will focus on the technical legality, rather than
their own safety.
By the same token, I have never understood the mentality of some in
the FAA that seem to think that an engine has to be kept continuously
in certified condition for it to go on a certified aircraft. As soon
as all the parts on it conform to the engine type certificate, it is
tested to perform to rated specs, it is certified, no matter what
parts were attached to it previously. After all, it never was more
than a collection of parts that had a data plate attached to one of
the parts.
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:59 AM, John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
> Some time today, Dorinda Baker from the Head FAA legal office will make a
> formal announcement clarifying the subject of AD notices and whether they
> affect Experimental Builders. The answer has always been under contention.
> The Legal Eagles will retain the right to assert ADs for public safety but
> the answer is going to be official. NO & Yes, No AD notes will not be
> required to be complied with by Experimental Builders. The FAA is staying
> out of the fray. Yes, if that builder installs an Certified Engine and
> wants to keep his/her options open to sell it in the future as a
> "Certified", then owners of certified need to keep & maintain compliance.
>
> For those who wanted to hear NO - "its coming". For others who deal with
> maintaining a Certified Engine/Prop or Appliance.... they will need to read
> between the lines and continue to comply with issued ADs to the Certificated
> Airframe Manufacturers requirements.
>
> Don't ya just love the new and leaner FAA.
>
> John Cox #40600 from the ground & behind the scenes at OSH '11
>
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| Subject: | FAA and AD notices |
Yes=2C same old ambiguity=2C but what about having=2C NO FAA.
Fly at your own risk. Build at your own risk. Certified or experimental.
No certified engines or certified anything for that matter. Buy at your own
risk. Simply rely on the economic laws of manufacture's reputation.
Let's see which engine company or aircraft manufacturer has killed fewer pe
ople?
Some how the internet says the cause of all accidents was due to pilot erro
r.
Who wrote those posts=2C not sure=2C but it could be the manufacturer...no
=2C nothing like that ever happens! Does it?
Internet is gospel...the truth=2C if it is written=2C it is true=2C right!
Somalia is a nice place to live because they have no government. Awesome pl
ace!
Why was America the best place to live?
Why is it still the best place to live?
>From 1' AGL to 18=2C000' MSL it is still the best place for me to live. At
least for today=2C next week=2C who knows?
It is a mystery.
Subject: RV10-List: FAA and AD notices
From: johnwcox@pacificnw.com
Some time today=2C Dorinda Baker from the Head FAA legal office will make a
formal announcement clarifying the subject of AD notices and whether they
affect Experimental Builders. The answer has always been under contention.
The Legal Eagles will retain the right to assert ADs for public safety bu
t the answer is going to be official. NO & Yes=2C No AD notes will not be
required to be complied with by Experimental Builders. The FAA is staying
out of the fray. Yes=2C if that builder installs an Certified Engine and w
ants to keep his/her options open to sell it in the future as a "Certified"
=2C then owners of certified need to keep & maintain compliance.
For those who wanted to hear NO - "its coming". For others who deal with m
aintaining a Certified Engine/Prop or Appliance.... they will need to read
between the lines and continue to comply with issued ADs to the Certificate
d Airframe Manufacturers requirements.
Don't ya just love the new and leaner FAA.
John Cox #40600 from the ground & behind the scenes at OSH '11
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| Subject: | 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer |
Hello
For those who installed the redcube fuel transducer which comes with AFS did you
manage to allow a straight line 5in before and after the redcube. If not do
you still have accurate readings of fuel flow?
Cheers
Michael
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RV-10 builder (interior,avionics, wiring)
#511
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| Subject: | Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer |
Make the inlets and outlets as straight as you can but I've seen 90s
screwed into each end and it still worked fine. IIRC the outlet is
the most critical.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Michael Wellenzohn
<rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote:
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> Hello
> For those who installed the redcube fuel transducer which comes with AFS did
you manage to allow a straight line 5in before and after the redcube. If not do
you still have accurate readings of fuel flow?
>
> Cheers
> Michael
>
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> RV-10 builder (interior,avionics, wiring)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347945#347945
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer |
And put it between the servo and the spider. I have 45's on each side of my cube.
Great accuracy.
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
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| Subject: | Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer |
I have put mine in the Position provided by Vans in the QB Fuselage I received.
It's about 7 inchs from the Andair Pump I have Installed and I will most likley
run the outlet to a lower postion on the firewall where I will place a Gascolator.
cheers
John MacCallum
VH-DUU
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| Subject: | Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer |
John, why a gascolator? How are you going to get to it to sump it???
Linn
On 7/28/2011 7:52 PM, maca2790 wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "maca2790"<vk2gcn@cirruscomms.com.au>
>
> I have put mine in the Position provided by Vans in the QB Fuselage I received.
It's about 7 inchs from the Andair Pump I have Installed and I will most likley
run the outlet to a lower postion on the firewall where I will place a Gascolator.
>
> cheers
>
> John MacCallum
> VH-DUU
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347957#347957
>
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| Subject: | Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer |
Some countries seem to believe that a gascolator is necessary for both
carbureted and injected engines and thus require one.
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> John, why a gascolator? How are you going to get to it to sump it???
> Linn
>
> On 7/28/2011 7:52 PM, maca2790 wrote:
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>> I have put mine in the Position provided by Vans in the QB Fuselage I
>> received. It's about 7 inchs from the Andair Pump I have Installed and I
>> will most likley run the outlet to a lower postion on the firewall where I
>> will place a Gascolator.
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>> cheers
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>> John MacCallum
>> VH-DUU
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347957#347957
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