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1. 10:32 AM - Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer (Michael Wellenzohn)
2. 12:45 PM - Re: Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer (Robin Marks)
3. 01:55 PM - Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer (Mike Whisky)
4. 02:14 PM - Re: Rapco brake linings and discs now available (Tim Olson)
5. 02:49 PM - Re:OSH (Kelly McMullen)
6. 03:42 PM - Re: Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer (Robin Marks)
7. 04:32 PM - Re: Re:OSH (Linn Walters)
8. 04:47 PM - Re: Re:OSH (Phillip Perry)
9. 05:24 PM - Re: Re:OSH (Tim Olson)
10. 05:31 PM - Congrats and What? (Scott Schmidt)
11. 05:55 PM - What is the difference between Lycoming YIO-540 and XI)-540? (Bill Watson)
12. 06:40 PM - Re: Rapco brake linings and discs now available (preid)
13. 07:17 PM - Oil Cooler Question (Robin Marks)
14. 08:06 PM - Re: What is the difference between Lycoming YIO-540 and XI)-540? (bill.peyton)
15. 08:24 PM - Re: Re: What is the difference between Lycoming YIO-540 and XI)-540? ()
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| Subject: | Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer |
Thanks for your replies.
>From what I understand now based on your feedback it shouldn't be a risk to install
the redcube in the tunnel but should try to leave some straight line at
the output of it.
Well I'll do my measurements then and order Bonaco Teflon lines.
Thanks
Michael
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#511
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| Subject: | Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer |
Michael,
I have been following the thread but am not completely up to date on the
last conversations since I have been flying X-County back from OSH.
That being said I strongly recommend you do not install the cube in the
tunnel. I think the general consensus is that it is more important to
install it between the fuel server and the spider than having 5" in/out of
the cube.
I had mine in the tunnel and could not get a steady reading on my FP. This
made it impossible to refine my LOP flying and it also consistently set off
my Low FP alarm because the reading bounced so much during straight & level
flight. When I finally relocated the cube to the above detailed location the
readings became rock solid and I have not had a single Low PF warning since.
Good luck,
Robin
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Michael Wellenzohn
<rv-10@wellenzohn.net>wrote:
> rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
>
> Thanks for your replies.
>
> >From what I understand now based on your feedback it shouldn't be a risk
> to install the redcube in the tunnel but should try to leave some straight
> line at the output of it.
> Well I'll do my measurements then and order Bonaco Teflon lines.
>
> Thanks
> Michael
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (interior,avionics, wiring)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348168#348168
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer |
Robin,
Thanks for your feedback, how and where exactly did you mount the red cube? Pictures
would be appreciated.
Looks like I was the only one not being in Osh this year
Thanks
Mike [Wink]
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#511
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| Subject: | Re: Rapco brake linings and discs now available |
I'm just getting back from OSH and will try to get a couple of
bits of info that I gathered out as I am thinking or writing them
down.
Regarding the Rapco linings, I'm not sure if you got the proper
linings if they are shorter. I actually measured mine before
leaving for OSH and measured brand new Rapco linings against
brand new Cleveland linings. The Rapco's were very very slightly
larger in both dimensions...maybe 1/64 on the length, and probably
even less that on the height. At any rate, they were bigger, not
smaller. I quizzed them at the booth at OSH on that. They seem to
think that you most likely got the wrong lining. I can tell you
though that from first-hand measurement, I found them larger, not
smaller, but only by a small amount. I suppose you could have
had a pre-production one or something too, but rest assured that
new ones should be fine.
I also clarified this, and added it to my write-up:
There are 2 benefits to the Rapco brake discs linings over the Cleveland
ones too: 1) The linings are made with a couple of dimpled notches in
them, one on each end of the pad. This is a built-in wear indicator.
Don't quote me on the number, but, I think it goes like this...if you
wear the pad down so that the notch disappears, you have .020 left until
you will start scraping the rivets on the discs. 2) The Rapco discs are
made of steel, and then plated with Nickel, and then the nickel is
removed from the braking wear surface. This leaves the remaining part
of the disc protected against corrosion by a nickel plating.
So that should allow for easier quick brake-checks to know that you're
still in tolerance.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
On 7/15/2011 9:41 AM, Deems Davis wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Deems Davis"<deemsdavis@cox.net>
>
> When I ordered new(recapped) Tires and Leakgard tubes from Dresser, based on
> advice from this list I ordered a replacement set of RAPCO pads from Dresser
> (aka VansRVTires) as well. I intended to replace the brake pads at my last
> annual when I was doing the tires. However, I noticed that the pad were 1/4"
> SHORTER in length than the old pads. The rivet holes align perfectly and
> they are stamped/marked with the correct part number. I put them aside as
> there was plenty of pad left on the existing pads, and intended to call
> Dresser and ask ... why?? IMO the -10 is not blessed with brakes that are
> TOO big and I wsn't interested in loosing any braking ability. Seeing this
> thread reminded me that I haven't called. Anybody else notice this or have
> more info chime in.
>
> Deems
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 3:15 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rapco brake linings and discs now available
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com>
>
> That's one of the things within the link. :)
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> On 7/13/2011 4:34 PM, Pascal wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Pascal"<rv10flyer@verizon.net>
>>
>> Desser sells the Rapco's as a reminder.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, July 13,
>> 2011 1:19 PM To: RV10 Subject: RV10-List: Rapco brake linings and
>> discs now available
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com>
>>
>> As you know if you've read my write-ups, I've been bugging Rapco for 4
>> or 5 years to start making the
>> 66-112 brake linings for us so we have an alternate price and supply.
>> The Cleveland ones go in and out of stock too often and the price is
>> top dollar.
>> I got a set of the new Rapco linings and replaced my discs at the same
>> time since I scored one of them on the first brake pad run....running
>> the rivets into the discs.
>>
>> So here's a write-up with pictures of the new discs.
>>
>> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20110711/index.html
>>
>> If you haven't seen the brake lining replacement write-up, also follow
>> the link to that one from within this page.
>>
>
>
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I'm not hearing of ANY must have items introduced this year. Seems
like a bit of a down year for new products.
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> I'm just getting back from OSH and will try to get a couple of
> bits of info that I gathered out as I am thinking or writing them
> down.
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| Subject: | Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer |
Mike,
Sorry no photos but the location is specific to your firewall forward.
In my case I have forward facing cold induction. Basically we found a
place where we were able to fabricate a small bracket to support the
cube and ran our line out of the servo with a straight shot into the
cube then as much of a straight out till the tube turns up towards the
spider.
I suggest you sit underneath your engine and hold the cube till you
find the best place understanding where you are coming from and where
you need the line to go. Some people leave the cube unsupported but I
preferred it to be supported and tied to something substantial.
Good luck,
Robin
Sent from my iPad2.
On Jul 31, 2011, at 2:00 PM, "Mike Whisky" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote:
>
> Robin,
> Thanks for your feedback, how and where exactly did you mount the red cube? Pictures
would be appreciated.
>
> Looks like I was the only one not being in Osh this year
> Thanks
> Mike [Wink]
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (interior & finishing)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348182#348182
>
>
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Should have stopped by the MGL booth .... they were introducing 3 or 4
new products. ;-)
Linn
On 7/31/2011 5:46 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen<apilot2@gmail.com>
>
> I'm not hearing of ANY must have items introduced this year. Seems
> like a bit of a down year for new products.
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com>
>>
>> I'm just getting back from OSH and will try to get a couple of
>> bits of info that I gathered out as I am thinking or writing them
>> down.
>
>
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This OSH was primarily about the tablet. Ipad was a clear winner over the
Android obviously.
On Jul 31, 2011 6:36 PM, "Linn Walters" <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Should have stopped by the MGL booth .... they were introducing 3 or 4
> new products. ;-)
> Linn
>
> On 7/31/2011 5:46 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>
>> I'm not hearing of ANY must have items introduced this year. Seems
>> like a bit of a down year for new products.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm just getting back from OSH and will try to get a couple of
>>> bits of info that I gathered out as I am thinking or writing them
>>> down.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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That's what I got out of it too. It's "everything ipad" basically.
The software apps are all over the place and capabilities abound. WingX and
their new air data and ahrs integration turns an ipad into a full low-end e
fis that could compete with some of the systems we've been used to.
Foreflight integrating to avionics and flight-plan-sharing. It's just amazi
ng to see. For a vfr only airplane you could have some pretty cheap avionic
s with an ipad and you can now get ads-b wx, XM wx, ads-b traffic and all th
at stuff on your ipad.
For those who got the Seattle avionics voyager software years ago like I did
, it's sounding like it shouldnt be terribly long until I can use my lifetim
e data subscription on an ipad app by them, so that's good.
Some may remember in my cabo write-up that my ONLY real complaint left in-fl
ight with wing-x was that you couldn't zoom-to-TAC view. I was flying over P
hoenix and had to switch to foreflight to see the TAC view for the vfr corri
dors. Well, Wingx silently fixed that months ago....I went there to complai
n and when I tried it, it worked. So these companies are listening and thin
gs are improving.
But yeah, there wasn't much new and exciting outside of the ipad world.
Tim
On Jul 31, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
> This OSH was primarily about the tablet. Ipad was a clear winner over the
Android obviously.
>
> On Jul 31, 2011 6:36 PM, "Linn Walters" <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > Should have stopped by the MGL booth .... they were introducing 3 or 4
> > new products. ;-)
> > Linn
> >
> > On 7/31/2011 5:46 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm not hearing of ANY must have items introduced this year. Seems
> >> like a bit of a down year for new products.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm just getting back from OSH and will try to get a couple of
> >>> bits of info that I gathered out as I am thinking or writing them
> >>> down.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Navigator to browse
> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com
/Navigator?RV10-List
> ://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> min.
>
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Congrats and What? |
I just read that we had three RV-10's recognized with awards this year. -
Great job guys. -One is even from my airport, great job Rick and Mike, co
ngratulations. -=0Ahttp://www.airventure.org/news/2011/110731_awards.html
=0A=0A=0AI was very surprised Geoff's plane was not in there at all. -IMH
O Geoff's plane should have been in there somewhere. -After looking at al
l the planes myself and looking at the areas on the RV-10 that separate a g
ood build job from a great build job Geoff's plane is clearly one of the be
st there. -Sheet metal work, paint and interior are all a 10. -I just w
ish we had four RV-10's with awards. -=0A=0AIt was great to see everyone
there and meet a bunch of new faces.-=0AAlready looking forward to next y
ear.-=0A-=0AScott Schmidt=0Ascottmschmidt@yahoo.com=0A
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| Subject: | What is the difference between Lycoming YIO-540 and XI)-540? |
The 'IO-540 I got thru Vans appears to be officially listed in the doc
as a YIO-540. The 'experimental' and lower priced engine option. In
other write-ups I see references to XIO-540s.
What's up with that?
Bill "hoping for first start-up tomorrow" Watson
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| Subject: | Re: Rapco brake linings and discs now available |
The smaller ones being sold are the older version of the linings. They have
a material in them that will make them out last the cleveland.
I'll see if I can get a better response on why Desser has the smaller
version being sold.
Pascal
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@myrv10.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rapco brake linings and discs now available
>
> I'm just getting back from OSH and will try to get a couple of
> bits of info that I gathered out as I am thinking or writing them
> down.
>
> Regarding the Rapco linings, I'm not sure if you got the proper
> linings if they are shorter. I actually measured mine before
> leaving for OSH and measured brand new Rapco linings against
> brand new Cleveland linings. The Rapco's were very very slightly
> larger in both dimensions...maybe 1/64 on the length, and probably
> even less that on the height. At any rate, they were bigger, not
> smaller. I quizzed them at the booth at OSH on that. They seem to
> think that you most likely got the wrong lining. I can tell you
> though that from first-hand measurement, I found them larger, not
> smaller, but only by a small amount. I suppose you could have
> had a pre-production one or something too, but rest assured that
> new ones should be fine.
>
> I also clarified this, and added it to my write-up:
>
> There are 2 benefits to the Rapco brake discs linings over the Cleveland
> ones too: 1) The linings are made with a couple of dimpled notches in
> them, one on each end of the pad. This is a built-in wear indicator.
> Don't quote me on the number, but, I think it goes like this...if you wear
> the pad down so that the notch disappears, you have .020 left until you
> will start scraping the rivets on the discs. 2) The Rapco discs are made
> of steel, and then plated with Nickel, and then the nickel is removed from
> the braking wear surface. This leaves the remaining part of the disc
> protected against corrosion by a nickel plating.
>
> So that should allow for easier quick brake-checks to know that you're
> still in tolerance.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> On 7/15/2011 9:41 AM, Deems Davis wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Deems Davis"<deemsdavis@cox.net>
>>
>> When I ordered new(recapped) Tires and Leakgard tubes from Dresser, based
>> on
>> advice from this list I ordered a replacement set of RAPCO pads from
>> Dresser
>> (aka VansRVTires) as well. I intended to replace the brake pads at my
>> last
>> annual when I was doing the tires. However, I noticed that the pad were
>> 1/4"
>> SHORTER in length than the old pads. The rivet holes align perfectly and
>> they are stamped/marked with the correct part number. I put them aside as
>> there was plenty of pad left on the existing pads, and intended to call
>> Dresser and ask ... why?? IMO the -10 is not blessed with brakes that are
>> TOO big and I wsn't interested in loosing any braking ability. Seeing
>> this
>> thread reminded me that I haven't called. Anybody else notice this or
>> have
>> more info chime in.
>>
>> Deems
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 3:15 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rapco brake linings and discs now available
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com>
>>
>> That's one of the things within the link. :)
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>>
>>
>> On 7/13/2011 4:34 PM, Pascal wrote:
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Pascal"<rv10flyer@verizon.net>
>>>
>>> Desser sells the Rapco's as a reminder.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, July 13,
>>> 2011 1:19 PM To: RV10 Subject: RV10-List: Rapco brake linings and
>>> discs now available
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com>
>>>
>>> As you know if you've read my write-ups, I've been bugging Rapco for 4
>>> or 5 years to start making the
>>> 66-112 brake linings for us so we have an alternate price and supply.
>>> The Cleveland ones go in and out of stock too often and the price is
>>> top dollar.
>>> I got a set of the new Rapco linings and replaced my discs at the same
>>> time since I scored one of them on the first brake pad run....running
>>> the rivets into the discs.
>>>
>>> So here's a write-up with pictures of the new discs.
>>>
>>> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20110711/index.html
>>>
>>> If you haven't seen the brake lining replacement write-up, also follow
>>> the link to that one from within this page.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Oil Cooler Question |
Did someone recently send me a request re: alternate inlet for oil cooling?
With all my technology, I recall reading the email but can't find it
anymore.
Sorry,
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: What is the difference between Lycoming YIO-540 and XI)-540? |
You purchased the experimental non-certified version of the engine. The certified
costs around $3K more! In reality it is the identical engine, just a different
part number....... Call Lycoming, I did.
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| Subject: | Re: What is the difference between Lycoming YIO-540 and |
XI)-540?
As a minimum, the YIO-540 contains roller tappets. Not sure that the XIO necessarily
does.
cheers
Ron
VH-XRM in Oz
---- "bill.peyton" <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> You purchased the experimental non-certified version of the engine. The certified
costs around $3K more! In reality it is the identical engine, just a different
part number....... Call Lycoming, I did.
>
> --------
> Bill Peyton
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