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1. 07:38 AM - Re: the story of Gary's RV-10 continues (Jonathan Beasley)
2. 08:00 AM - Facebook and other technology (Pascal)
3. 08:23 AM - Oil Breather Exit Tube too Short? (jchang10)
4. 08:46 AM - Re: Facebook and other technology (Gary Specketer)
5. 08:48 AM - Re: Oil Breather Exit Tube too Short? (Rob Kochman)
6. 08:51 AM - Re: Oil Breather Exit Tube too Short? (Linn Walters)
7. 09:00 AM - Re: Oil Breather Exit Tube too Short? (Linn Walters)
8. 09:05 AM - Re: Facebook and other technology (Bill Watson)
9. 10:01 AM - Re: Facebook and other technology (John Cox)
10. 12:44 PM - Re: Facebook and other technology (Kelly McMullen)
11. 01:07 PM - Re: Oil Breather Exit Tube too Short? (Sohrab Kermanj)
12. 01:53 PM - Re: Facebook and other technology (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
13. 02:05 PM - Re: Facebook and other technology (Kelly McMullen)
14. 05:21 PM - Replacement Cowl (Robin Marks)
15. 06:04 PM - Re: Replacement Cowl (Seano)
16. 06:16 PM - Re: Replacement Cowl (Eric_Kallio)
17. 06:34 PM - Re: Replacement Cowl (Robin Marks)
18. 06:48 PM - Re: Replacement Cowl (Robin Marks)
19. 06:50 PM - Re: Replacement Cowl (Rick)
20. 06:50 PM - Re: Replacement Cowl (Seano)
21. 07:23 PM - Re: Replacement Cowl (Robin Marks)
22. 08:33 PM - California trip (Rick Lark)
23. 09:23 PM - Re: California trip (Robin Marks)
24. 09:50 PM - Re: California trip (Dave Saylor)
25. 10:53 PM - Re: The Model 367 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=93BiPod?==?ISO-8859-1?Q?=94?= hybrid flying car designed by Burt Rut (MotoPOD)
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| Subject: | Re: the story of Gary's RV-10 continues |
Bill brings up a good point and I have yet to call Vans support line.
Van if you are listening (yes, I know no one is listening) the idea behind
"enterprise" social media is a smart company, like Vans, would invest in an
enterprise platform which allows them to easily combine, consume, monitor,
participate, etc. in all forms of media. The goal is to engage all of their
customers (young and old, high tech and low tech) in their media of choice,
and combine all of information into one (virtual) location to the benefit o
f
everyone=8A at the same time hiding the complexity to both internal users and
external customers.
The good news for those who dislike social media =8B at some point in the
future you can take advantage of social media with out actively
participating=8A at least you won't know you are activity participating. For
the Star Trek fans=8A social media is the Borg and "resistance is futile". I
dislike social media for many reasons (security, lack of direct face-to-fac
e
interaction, virtual world) but=8A resistance is futile.
Jonathan
41236 -- Just starting wings (and waiting to see Bill fly at Lake Ridge)
From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: the story of Gary's RV-10 continues
Funny, I prefer this list to the Vans support staff. The only thing
possibly lacking here is active participation by Vans.
I'd suggest that the best support tool for building the RV10 is this
list... and other builders sites, and my tech counseler. The least useful
channel of support has been Vans.
I too dislike the ubiquity and dominance of Facebook, but know it's for no
particular reason. Like so many others, I've had the life enriching
experience of re-connecting with people from college and other places.
People I would never have seen again. If life and work have conspired to
move you away from friends and family, FB can be the glue to put some of it
back together.
The best support for my phone, some tools, my PCs, their software and so
many other things are independent Web forums, boards, and lists. FB is jus
t
a generic form of these specialized social networking sites. And when you
lift up the corners of FB, you find many specialized networks within it.
Yeah, as I get older, I'm getting tired of adapting to new and generally
better technology. Next step - chucking RF glidescope and adapting to GPS
VNAV.
Bill
On 8/21/2011 4:43 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> They can throw all the money they want at those platforms. If we the cust
omers
> insist on communicating by phone and email, that is what will prevail. I
doubt
> Van's will save much on support costs with Spacebook. Most builders want
to
> talk to a live body, even if they have to pay for the phone call.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wr
ote:
>
>> Unfortunately everyone is going to be forced into it like it or not.
>>
>> I've been in the IT industry for 18 years now and 16 has been focused m
ore
>> on the business enablement side. You would absolutely $#!* your pants i
f you
>> knew how much money Fortune 500 companies are spending to leverage socia
l
>> media as a way of conducting business. Like it or not, Its coming. I'
d
>> love to revisit the topic in another 5-8 years and see where we stand.
>>
>> I'm not talking about targeted marketing. I'm talking about replacing
call
>> centers so you don't have to communicate with someone who can't speak
>> english. The cost is less to the business and the clients are much happi
er.
>> Vehicles that you drive reporting their health/location to you and also
the
>> manufacturer who can do preventive analysis on your car and immediately
>> forward the data to the service center. Home centers that monitor every
thing
>> in the house.
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Facebook and other technology |
I changed the subject since this has moved to a different topic. No need
to keep mentioning Gary=99s story if this thread has nothing to do
with that.
From: Jonathan Beasley
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: the story of Gary's RV-10 continues
Bill brings up a good point and I have yet to call Vans support line.
Van if you are listening (yes, I know no one is listening) the idea
behind "enterprise" social media is a smart company, like Vans, would
invest in an enterprise platform which allows them to easily combine,
consume, monitor, participate, etc. in all forms of media. The goal is
to engage all of their customers (young and old, high tech and low tech)
in their media of choice, and combine all of information into one
(virtual) location to the benefit of everyone at the same time
hiding the complexity to both internal users and external customers.
The good news for those who dislike social media =94 at some point
in the future you can take advantage of social media with out actively
participating at least you won't know you are activity
participating. For the Star Trek fans social media is the Borg
and "resistance is futile". I dislike social media for many reasons
(security, lack of direct face-to-face interaction, virtual world)
but resistance is futile.
Jonathan
41236 -- Just starting wings (and waiting to see Bill fly at Lake Ridge)
From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: the story of Gary's RV-10 continues
Funny, I prefer this list to the Vans support staff. The only thing
possibly lacking here is active participation by Vans.
I'd suggest that the best support tool for building the RV10 is this
list... and other builders sites, and my tech counseler. The least
useful channel of support has been Vans.
I too dislike the ubiquity and dominance of Facebook, but know it's for
no particular reason. Like so many others, I've had the life enriching
experience of re-connecting with people from college and other places.
People I would never have seen again. If life and work have conspired
to move you away from friends and family, FB can be the glue to put some
of it back together.
The best support for my phone, some tools, my PCs, their software and so
many other things are independent Web forums, boards, and lists. FB is
just a generic form of these specialized social networking sites. And
when you lift up the corners of FB, you find many specialized networks
within it.
Yeah, as I get older, I'm getting tired of adapting to new and generally
better technology. Next step - chucking RF glidescope and adapting to
GPS VNAV.
Bill
On 8/21/2011 4:43 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
They can throw all the money they want at those platforms. If we the
customers insist on communicating by phone and email, that is what will
prevail. I doubt Van's will save much on support costs with Spacebook.
Most builders want to talk to a live body, even if they have to pay for
the phone call.
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
wrote:
Unfortunately everyone is going to be forced into it like it or not.
I've been in the IT industry for 18 years now and 16 has been
focused more on the business enablement side. You would absolutely $#!*
your pants if you knew how much money Fortune 500 companies are spending
to leverage social media as a way of conducting business. Like it or
not, Its coming. I'd love to revisit the topic in another 5-8 years and
see where we stand.
I'm not talking about targeted marketing. I'm talking about
replacing call centers so you don't have to communicate with someone who
can't speak english. The cost is less to the business and the clients
are much happier. Vehicles that you drive reporting their
health/location to you and also the manufacturer who can do preventive
analysis on your car and immediately forward the data to the service
center. Home centers that monitor everything in the house.
www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
com
ronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Oil Breather Exit Tube too Short? |
I had a visiting A&P comment that I should try and extend the oil breather tube
exit a bit more. A tiny bit of extension he said would help.
Right now, my exit is a good 2 inches above the bottom of the firewall and cowl
exit area. He thought a lot of oil vapor and general messiness will result in
the bottom of the firewall with the oil breather exit there.
Can anyone commend on their firewall messines? Did anyone try extending theirs?
Jae
40533
Final assembly
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350214#350214
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| Subject: | Re: Facebook and other technology |
And it wasn't Gary's story either, Greg's
Gary Specketer
From: Pascal
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:58 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Facebook and other technology
I changed the subject since this has moved to a different topic. No need
to keep mentioning Gary=99s story if this thread has nothing to do
with that.
From: Jonathan Beasley
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: the story of Gary's RV-10 continues
Bill brings up a good point and I have yet to call Vans support line.
Van if you are listening (yes, I know no one is listening) the idea
behind "enterprise" social media is a smart company, like Vans, would
invest in an enterprise platform which allows them to easily combine,
consume, monitor, participate, etc. in all forms of media. The goal is
to engage all of their customers (young and old, high tech and low tech)
in their media of choice, and combine all of information into one
(virtual) location to the benefit of everyone at the same time
hiding the complexity to both internal users and external customers.
The good news for those who dislike social media =94 at some point
in the future you can take advantage of social media with out actively
participating at least you won't know you are activity
participating. For the Star Trek fans social media is the Borg
and "resistance is futile". I dislike social media for many reasons
(security, lack of direct face-to-face interaction, virtual world)
but resistance is futile.
Jonathan
41236 -- Just starting wings (and waiting to see Bill fly at Lake Ridge)
From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: the story of Gary's RV-10 continues
Funny, I prefer this list to the Vans support staff. The only thing
possibly lacking here is active participation by Vans.
I'd suggest that the best support tool for building the RV10 is this
list... and other builders sites, and my tech counseler. The least
useful channel of support has been Vans.
I too dislike the ubiquity and dominance of Facebook, but know it's for
no particular reason. Like so many others, I've had the life enriching
experience of re-connecting with people from college and other places.
People I would never have seen again. If life and work have conspired
to move you away from friends and family, FB can be the glue to put some
of it back together.
The best support for my phone, some tools, my PCs, their software and so
many other things are independent Web forums, boards, and lists. FB is
just a generic form of these specialized social networking sites. And
when you lift up the corners of FB, you find many specialized networks
within it.
Yeah, as I get older, I'm getting tired of adapting to new and generally
better technology. Next step - chucking RF glidescope and adapting to
GPS VNAV.
Bill
On 8/21/2011 4:43 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
They can throw all the money they want at those platforms. If we the
customers insist on communicating by phone and email, that is what will
prevail. I doubt Van's will save much on support costs with Spacebook.
Most builders want to talk to a live body, even if they have to pay for
the phone call.
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
wrote:
Unfortunately everyone is going to be forced into it like it or not.
I've been in the IT industry for 18 years now and 16 has been
focused more on the business enablement side. You would absolutely $#!*
your pants if you knew how much money Fortune 500 companies are spending
to leverage social media as a way of conducting business. Like it or
not, Its coming. I'd love to revisit the topic in another 5-8 years and
see where we stand.
I'm not talking about targeted marketing. I'm talking about
replacing call centers so you don't have to communicate with someone who
can't speak english. The cost is less to the business and the clients
are much happier. Vehicles that you drive reporting their
health/location to you and also the manufacturer who can do preventive
analysis on your car and immediately forward the data to the service
center. Home centers that monitor everything in the house.
www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
com
ronics.com/contribution
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?RV10-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Breather Exit Tube too Short? |
Mine is as you describe. I expected to see a lot of oil, too, but I'm not.
-Rob
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 AM, jchang10 <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>wrote:
>
> I had a visiting A&P comment that I should try and extend the oil breather
> tube exit a bit more. A tiny bit of extension he said would help.
>
> Right now, my exit is a good 2 inches above the bottom of the firewall and
> cowl exit area. He thought a lot of oil vapor and general messiness will
> result in the bottom of the firewall with the oil breather exit there.
>
> Can anyone commend on their firewall messines? Did anyone try extending
> theirs?
>
> Jae
> 40533
> Final assembly
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350214#350214
>
>
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Breather Exit Tube too Short? |
He's right. It really should be a couple of inches _/below/_ the bottom
of the firewall. Also, about two inches _/above/_ the bottom of the
firewall, cut a notch in the tube and then use a chisel or other pointy
tool to bend the top of the notch into the tube .... like a whistle.
This will allow the crankcase pressure to escape if the bottom end of
the tube ices over yet keeps the oily stuff out of the cowl.
Linn
On 8/22/2011 11:21 AM, jchang10 wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jchang10"<jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
>
> I had a visiting A&P comment that I should try and extend the oil breather tube
exit a bit more. A tiny bit of extension he said would help.
>
> Right now, my exit is a good 2 inches above the bottom of the firewall and cowl
exit area. He thought a lot of oil vapor and general messiness will result
in the bottom of the firewall with the oil breather exit there.
>
> Can anyone commend on their firewall messines? Did anyone try extending theirs?
>
> Jae
> 40533
> Final assembly
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350214#350214
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Breather Exit Tube too Short? |
On 8/22/2011 11:46 AM, Rob Kochman wrote:
> Mine is as you describe. I expected to see a lot of oil, too, but I'm
> not.
Yet. It depends on how tight the rings are. But a little oil keeps
things from rusting. ;-)
Linn
> -Rob
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 AM, jchang10 <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com
> <mailto:jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>> wrote:
>
> <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com <mailto:jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>>
>
> I had a visiting A&P comment that I should try and extend the oil
> breather tube exit a bit more. A tiny bit of extension he said
> would help.
>
> Right now, my exit is a good 2 inches above the bottom of the
> firewall and cowl exit area. He thought a lot of oil vapor and
> general messiness will result in the bottom of the firewall with
> the oil breather exit there.
>
> Can anyone commend on their firewall messines? Did anyone try
> extending theirs?
>
> Jae
> 40533
> Final assembly
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350214#350214
> t Un/Subscription,
> www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"
> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> ronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com
> Matt Dralle, List Admin.
> ====
>
>
> --
> Rob Kochman
> RV-10 Flying since March 2011
> Woodinville, WA
> http://kochman.net/N819K
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Facebook and other technology |
My bad there.
On 8/22/2011 11:42 AM, Gary Specketer wrote:
> And it wasn't Gary's story either, Greg's
> Gary Specketer
>
> *From:* Pascal <mailto:rv10flyer@verizon.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 9:58 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Facebook and other technology
>
> I changed the subject since this has moved to a different topic. No
> need to keep mentioning Garys story if this thread has nothing to do
> with that.
> *From:* Jonathan Beasley <mailto:jbeasley@nc.rr.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 7:36 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: the story of Gary's RV-10 continues
> Bill brings up a good point and I have yet to call Vans support line.
> Van if you are listening (yes, I know no one is listening) the idea
> behind "enterprise" social media is a smart company, like Vans, would
> invest in an enterprise platform which allows them to easily combine,
> consume, monitor, participate, etc. in all forms of media. The goal is
> to engage all of their customers (young and old, high tech and low
> tech) in their media of choice, and combine all of information into
> one (virtual) location to the benefit of everyone at the same time
> hiding the complexity to both internal users and external customers.
> The good news for those who dislike social media at some point in
> the future you can take advantage of social media with out actively
> participating at least you won't know you are activity
> participating. For the Star Trek fans social media is the Borg and
> "resistance is futile". I dislike social media for many reasons
> (security, lack of direct face-to-face interaction, virtual world)
> but resistance is futile.
> Jonathan
> 41236 -- Just starting wings (and waiting to see Bill fly at Lake Ridge)
> From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com <mailto:Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>>
> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:07:29 -0400
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: the story of Gary's RV-10 continues
> Funny, I prefer this list to the Vans support staff. The only thing
> possibly lacking here is active participation by Vans.
>
> I'd suggest that the best support tool for building the RV10 is this
> list... and other builders sites, and my tech counseler. The least
> useful channel of support has been Vans.
>
> I too dislike the ubiquity and dominance of Facebook, but know it's
> for no particular reason. Like so many others, I've had the life
> enriching experience of re-connecting with people from college and
> other places. People I would never have seen again. If life and work
> have conspired to move you away from friends and family, FB can be the
> glue to put some of it back together.
>
> The best support for my phone, some tools, my PCs, their software and
> so many other things are independent Web forums, boards, and lists.
> FB is just a generic form of these specialized social networking
> sites. And when you lift up the corners of FB, you find many
> specialized networks within it.
>
> Yeah, as I get older, I'm getting tired of adapting to new and
> generally better technology. Next step - chucking RF glidescope and
> adapting to GPS VNAV.
>
> Bill
>
>
> On 8/21/2011 4:43 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>> They can throw all the money they want at those platforms. If we the
>> customers insist on communicating by phone and email, that is what
>> will prevail. I doubt Van's will save much on support costs with
>> Spacebook. Most builders want to talk to a live body, even if they
>> have to pay for the phone call.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com
>> <mailto:philperry9@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately everyone is going to be forced into it like it or not.
>>
>> I've been in the IT industry for 18 years now and 16 has been
>> focused more on the business enablement side. You would
>> absolutely $#!* your pants if you knew how much money Fortune 500
>> companies are spending to leverage social media as a way of
>> conducting business. Like it or not, Its coming. I'd love to
>> revisit the topic in another 5-8 years and see where we stand.
>>
>> I'm not talking about targeted marketing. I'm talking about
>> replacing call centers so you don't have to communicate with
>> someone who can't speak english. The cost is less to the business
>> and the clients are much happier. Vehicles that you drive
>> reporting their health/location to you and also the manufacturer
>> who can do preventive analysis on your car and immediately
>> forward the data to the service center. Home centers that
>> monitor everything in the house.
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Facebook and other technology |
Ken Scott...not to be confused with Ken K. Does Monitor & Relay the
chatter. I would think the VANs Aircraft Kit Company might have chosen more
wisely than facebook and discussion of improvements began here "years ago".
This is just an example how Out of Touch that I am with Social Media
Marketing.
John 40600
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| Subject: | Re: Facebook and other technology |
Yeah, that would be the same person that denies there is any problem with
the nose wheel and axle, that there are any problems with their quick build
QC, any tunnel problem, any problem with the doors, and so on.
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:56 AM, John Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ken Scott...not to be confused with Ken K. Does Monitor & Relay the
> chatter. I would think the VANs Aircraft Kit Company might have chosen more
> wisely than facebook and discussion of improvements began here "years ago".
>
> This is just an example how Out of Touch that I am with Social Media
> Marketing.
>
> John 40600
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Breather Exit Tube too Short? |
Mine is just above the exhaust pipe. Expecting that the drips would burn. So
me still shows up once in a while.
Rob Kermanj
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 22, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote
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> On 8/22/2011 11:46 AM, Rob Kochman wrote:
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>> Mine is as you describe. I expected to see a lot of oil, too, but I'm no
t.
> Yet. It depends on how tight the rings are. But a little oil keeps thing
s from rusting. ;-)
> Linn
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>> -Rob
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>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 AM, jchang10 <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com> w
rote:
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>> I had a visiting A&P comment that I should try and extend the oil breathe
r tube exit a bit more. A tiny bit of extension he said would help.
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>> Right now, my exit is a good 2 inches above the bottom of the firewall an
d cowl exit area. He thought a lot of oil vapor and general messiness will r
esult in the bottom of the firewall with the oil breather exit there.
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>> Can anyone commend on their firewall messines? Did anyone try extending t
heirs?
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| Subject: | Re: Facebook and other technology |
You folks who are always complaining about the poor quality of Van's kit's and
want improvements should band together and develop/market a kit that meets their
specs. Seems to me there is an opportunity being missed here.
David Clifford
RV-10 Builder
Howell, MI
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From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 3:38:47 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Facebook and other technology
Yeah, that would be the same person that denies there is any problem with the nose
wheel and axle, that there are any problems with their quick build QC, any
tunnel problem, any problem with the doors, and so on.
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:56 AM, John Cox < rv10pro@gmail.com > wrote:
Ken Scott...not to be confused with Ken K. Does Monitor & Relay the chatter. I
would think the VANs Aircraft Kit Company might have chosen more wisely than facebook
and discussion of improvements began here "years ago".
This is just an example how Out of Touch that I am with Social Media Marketing.
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I have NO problem with Van's manufactured parts. I do have problems with
QB assemblies that are not built to the plans. Stuff like trailing edge
rivets poorly squeezed instead of driven double flush as plans call for.
Longerons not cut to length, and riveted in place with skin dimpled
without the longeron being countersunk to match. Parts missing. When you
pay an extra $10,000 to have things done, with marketing assuring high
quality construction, and you get quality that A&P instructors would
reject from their students, I think you have a right to bitch. Don't get
me wrong...most of the work is good quality, but the errors on the
remaining 5% leave a sour taste.
On 8/22/2011 1:48 PM, davidsoutpost@comcast.net wrote:
> You folks who are always complaining about the poor quality of Van's
> kit's and want improvements should band together and develop/market a
> kit that meets their specs. Seems to me there is an opportunity being
> missed here.
>
> David Clifford
>
> RV-10 Builder
> Howell, MI
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> *From: *"Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com>
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> *Sent: *Monday, August 22, 2011 3:38:47 PM
> *Subject: *Re: RV10-List: Facebook and other technology
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> Yeah, that would be the same person that denies there is any problem
> with the nose wheel and axle, that there are any problems with their
> quick build QC, any tunnel problem, any problem with the doors, and so on.
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:56 AM, John Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com
> <mailto:rv10pro@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Ken Scott...not to be confused with Ken K. Does Monitor & Relay
> the chatter. I would think the VANs Aircraft Kit Company might
> have chosen more wisely than facebook and discussion of
> improvements began here "years ago".
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> This is just an example how Out of Touch that I am with Social
> Media Marketing.
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| Subject: | Replacement Cowl |
Anyone know how much a replacement cowl costs from Vans? I looked on the
site and didn=92t see the unit listed in the store.
Thanks,
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: Replacement Cowl |
Here is some incentive. Just after leveling off at 13500 coming back
from KTVL Stock Van's cowl.
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Marks
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 6:16 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Replacement Cowl
Anyone know how much a replacement cowl costs from Vans? I looked on
the site and didn=92t see the unit listed in the store.
Thanks,
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: Replacement Cowl |
After my upcoming deployment I am pulling the plug on the James cowl as well. Just
not cutting it in the Southern heat. Really looks good, but not worth the
poor performance. Right now I am just using short term fixes to at least kept
the plane flyable. Don't want to delve back into fiberglass, but it needs done.
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| Subject: | Re: Replacement Cowl |
You call that leveling off?
What TAS are you seeing at 13.5 on under 9 GPH?
Robin
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On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Seano <sean@braunandco.com> wrote:
> **
> Here is some incentive. Just after leveling off at 13500 coming back from
> KTVL Stock Van's cowl.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 6:16 PM
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Replacement Cowl
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> Anyone know how much a replacement cowl costs from Vans? I looked on the
> site and didn=92t see the unit listed in the store.
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| Subject: | Re: Replacement Cowl |
Whoops. On my computer the MFD image was sideways. Thus my comment on
"leveling off?"
I think the James cowl is not just hotter but also 5+ knots slower.
Robin
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On Aug 22, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Seano <sean@braunandco.com> wrote:
Here is some incentive. Just after leveling off at 13500 coming back from
KTVL Stock Van's cowl.
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----- Original Message -----
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*Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 6:16 PM
*Subject:* RV10-List: Replacement Cowl
Anyone know how much a replacement cowl costs from Vans? I looked on the
site and didn=92t see the unit listed in the store.tt
Thanks,
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Heh heh love to see the winds aloft on that one!
Rick
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On Aug 22, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
> You call that leveling off?
> What TAS are you seeing at 13.5 on under 9 GPH?
>
> Robin
> Do Not Archive
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> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Seano <sean@braunandco.com> wrote:
> Here is some incentive. Just after leveling off at 13500 coming back from K
TVL Stock Van's cowl.
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> <photo.JPG>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robin Marks
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 6:16 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Replacement Cowl
>
> Anyone know how much a replacement cowl costs from Vans? I looked on the s
ite and didn=99t see the unit listed in the store.
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| Subject: | Re: Replacement Cowl |
Well I didn't want some yahoo saying,"195 is too hot at 13500!!" I had
leveled off and stabilized on cruise then finished leaning when I
snapped the photo. The oil temp was just coming back down after the
climb. I had some tailwind during this pic but not much, probably
around 5-10 kts.
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Marks
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Replacement Cowl
You call that leveling off?
What TAS are you seeing at 13.5 on under 9 GPH?
Robin
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On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Seano <sean@braunandco.com> wrote:
Here is some incentive. Just after leveling off at 13500 coming back
from KTVL Stock Van's cowl.
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Marks
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 6:16 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Replacement Cowl
Anyone know how much a replacement cowl costs from Vans? I looked
on the site and didn=92t see the unit listed in the store.
Thanks,
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: Replacement Cowl |
Forgetabout about winds aloft, I like how long you can stay aloft at 8.6
GPH. ~6 hours with VFR reserves. (maybe less with the climb burn). ROP I ha
d
to stop for fuel going in & out of OSH flying ROP. Would have been nice to
burn 40% less fuel AND not have the fuel stop cost in both time and extra
climb outs. Darn you James Cowl!
Robin
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Rick <ricksked@cox.net> wrote:
> Heh heh love to see the winds aloft on that one!
>
> Rick
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> On Aug 22, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
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> You call that leveling off?
> What TAS are you seeing at 13.5 on under 9 GPH?
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> Robin
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> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Seano < <sean@braunandco.com>
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>> Here is some incentive. Just after leveling off at 13500 coming back fro
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
>> *To:* <rv10-list@matronics.com>rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 6:16 PM
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: Replacement Cowl
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>> Anyone know how much a replacement cowl costs from Vans? I looked on th
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Hi all
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My wife and I will be in St Helena, Ca from Aug 25 until Sept 1, and then M
ontecito, Ca until Sept 8.- If there are any RV10 builders near those are
as that would like to show off their aircraft or projects, I'd love to see
them.
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I can be reached by this email or by my-Verizon-cell 314-302-4442 after
Aug 24.
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Regards,
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Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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Didn=92t mean to hit send. Darn iPad=85
Rick, I live in San Luis Obispo 90 miles north of Santa Barbara. If
interested I would love to show you N110EE.
I am leaving for Atlanta tomorrow and will not be back till ~Sept 4th but I
will definitely be in SBP September 5-10 which should work out well for the
end of your trip. That is if you are not overloaded with viewing RV=92s and
drinking California wines. J If the travel is difficult I can also meet you
in Santa Ynez (IZA) a beautiful 25 minute drive from Montecito.
Here is my -10
www.painttheweb.com/rv-10
I also am flying an 8A still unpainted. Attached.
Enjoy your trip. Here is my contact info:
Robin Marks
Robin@PaintTheWeb.com
805.801.8550
N110EE, N880EE
*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Lark
*Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 8:30 PM
*To:* RV10-list
*Subject:* RV10-List: California trip
Hi all
My wife and I will be in St Helena, Ca from Aug 25 until Sept 1, and then
Montecito, Ca until Sept 8. If there are any RV10 builders near those area
s
that would like to show off their aircraft or projects, I'd love to see
them.
I can be reached by this email or by my Verizon cell 314-302-4442 after Aug
24.
Regards,
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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| Subject: | Re: California trip |
Hi Rick,
You'll pass pretty close to KWVI on the way to Montecito. Feel free to drop
in. We usually have two flying 10s in the hangar, and at least one more RV
for the next few weeks.
I recommend lunch at the CIA in St. Helena--they're cooks, not feds. The
last time we went we landed at Angwin, which worked out fine. We got a cab
into town.
Have a good trip.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
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On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Rick Lark <larkrv10@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Hi all
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> My wife and I will be in St Helena, Ca from Aug 25 until Sept 1, and then
> Montecito, Ca until Sept 8. If there are any RV10 builders near those areas
> that would like to show off their aircraft or projects, I'd love to see
> them.
>
> I can be reached by this email or by my Verizon cell 314-302-4442 after
> Aug 24.
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> Regards,
>
> Rick
> #40956
> Southampton, Ont
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hybrid flying car designed by Burt Rut
Some of us lucky RV-10 folks don't need a roadable airplane ;)
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