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1. 04:49 AM - Re: Rear seat air vent knobs (tsts4)
2. 06:28 AM - Re: Rear seat air vent knobs (rv10flyer)
3. 07:23 AM - Re: Re: Rear seat air vent knobs (Thane States)
4. 07:46 AM - Oxygen systems and refilling (Sheldon Olesen)
5. 08:10 AM - Re: Oxygen systems and refilling (Jim Berry)
6. 08:11 AM - Re: Oxygen systems and refilling (Bob Leffler)
7. 08:26 AM - Re: Oxygen systems and refilling (Tim Olson)
8. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: Oxygen systems and refilling (Tim Olson)
9. 09:05 AM - Re: Oxygen systems and refilling (Phil N)
10. 09:49 AM - Re: Re: Rear seat air vent knobs (carl.froehlich@verizon.net)
11. 09:55 AM - Re: Oxygen systems and refilling (DLM)
12. 11:02 AM - Re: Oxygen systems and refilling (Tim Olson)
13. 11:37 AM - Re: Oxygen systems and refilling (Danny Riggs)
14. 11:37 AM - Re: Re: Oxygen systems and refilling (Rene Felker)
15. 12:06 PM - O2 Thanks (Sheldon Olesen)
16. 12:48 PM - Re: O2 Thanks (Tim Olson)
17. 01:07 PM - Re: O2 Thanks (Rene Felker)
18. 01:17 PM - Re: O2 Thanks (Tim Olson)
19. 01:39 PM - Re: O2 Thanks (Rob Kochman)
20. 02:01 PM - Re: O2 Thanks (Rene Felker)
21. 08:50 PM - Fw: B: Tire Tube Test for Goodyear (Kelly McMullen)
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| Subject: | Re: Rear seat air vent knobs |
Avery tools: http://www.averytools.com/prodinfo.asp?number=4687
I'm finishing up section 29 and just installed my vents and added those handles.
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Todd Stovall
728TT (reserved)
RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse
www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts
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| Subject: | Re: Rear seat air vent knobs |
I made my own out of a rivnut and #8 screw.
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Bldr# 40983SB IO-540 Install.
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| Subject: | Re: Rear seat air vent knobs |
I made mine out of 1/2" wood dowel and a wood screw, then painted them
black; cost 20 cents, if you have the dowel.
Thane States
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From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:25 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rear seat air vent knobs
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> I made my own out of a rivnut and #8 screw.
>
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> Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
> Bldr# 40983SB IO-540 Install.
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| Subject: | Oxygen systems and refilling |
I'm planning a trip out to Boise next month and have decided that a portable O2
system would be wise. Any recommendations on systems would be appreciated.
Usage would be sporadic.
My home airport has no FBO and no way to refill an O2 bottle. Is leasing a large
single cylinder of O2 and self filling a viable way to go? Given occassional
usage, would it be smarter to send it to be refilled by an O2 supplier? What
does it cost to refill a 22 cu ft bottle?
Sheldon Olesen
N475PV. 292 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Oxygen systems and refilling |
While leasing a large cylinder is certainly viable, it is probably not cost effective
for only occasional use. I leased two 300 cu ft cylinders for 10 years,
and with the cost of the transfill hose and pressure gage, I have about $800
invested. I did it for the convenience, not to save money.
Jim Berry
N15JB
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| Subject: | Re: Oxygen systems and refilling |
Go to your local welding supply house or a medical equip supplier. O2 should be
less expensive from the welder supply house.
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On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:42 AM, Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net> wrote:
>
> I'm planning a trip out to Boise next month and have decided that a portable
O2 system would be wise. Any recommendations on systems would be appreciated.
Usage would be sporadic.
>
> My home airport has no FBO and no way to refill an O2 bottle. Is leasing a large
single cylinder of O2 and self filling a viable way to go? Given occassional
usage, would it be smarter to send it to be refilled by an O2 supplier?
What does it cost to refill a 22 cu ft bottle?
>
> Sheldon Olesen
> N475PV. 292 hrs
>
> Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Oxygen systems and refilling |
I'd go for a nice system that is pulse demand if you plan to use
it a lot. The big catch is that unless you have a demand
system, there is quite a bit of waste of O2. Even the balloon
"conserving" cannulas are big wasters. My demand system by
Precise Flight is supposed to be about 3x more efficient. The
Mountain High pulse systems are even better yet by a bunch.
The big issue is that even with my system, I can't plan a
trip to say, Oregon, without planning to fill my O2 if I
want to use oxygen for 4 people for a long amount of time.
A 3x increase in efficiency can make the difference between
spending $35-50 to fill at the remote airport. Filling my
own probably costs me $10 or less, but requires a big cylinder
lease and some hardware. If you're only a very occasional
user, I'd just buy a real good system and pay someone
to fill it. For me, I already owned the large cylinders
to fill from so it wasn't a big deal. If you don't
buy/lease at least 2 of the large cylinders, it won't
give you a very full efficient fill, either....3 is even
better. So the investment to get a good self-fill
system isn't nil....that's why I'd just probably recommend
for the occasional user even, buying a very nice system
like Mountain High, so that you operate as efficiently
as possible and don't need to fill as often.
BTW: If you get a good deal from a local gas supplier,
filling your small bottle should be maybe $20 or so
I'd think. FBO's will likely charge at least $35.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 8/24/2011 9:42 AM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sheldon
> Olesen<saolesen@sirentel.net>
>
> I'm planning a trip out to Boise next month and have decided that a
> portable O2 system would be wise. Any recommendations on systems
> would be appreciated. Usage would be sporadic.
>
> My home airport has no FBO and no way to refill an O2 bottle. Is
> leasing a large single cylinder of O2 and self filling a viable way
> to go? Given occassional usage, would it be smarter to send it to be
> refilled by an O2 supplier? What does it cost to refill a 22 cu ft
> bottle?
>
> Sheldon Olesen N475PV. 292 hrs
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oxygen systems and refilling |
I'm not sure what the leases are these days. I thought before
I had been paying $150 for 5 years or something like that,
per cylinder. I spent only about $100-125 in transfill
hardware. So unless leases have changed a lot, it shouldn't
take $800 to get set up for filling. At the time, I
could have bought my OWN 2 large cylinders and owned them
for that kind of cash. I used to have to do a lot of
this stuff because I owned or leased Argon, Helium, and
Oxygen cylinders for doing deep mixed-gas technical SCUBA
dives. I still own a 400cf Helium cylinder, and converted
4 of them to Oxygen for the hangar. I haven't leased
for a while though. I would figure that unless pricing
is vastly different, a guy should be able to get set
up for $500 or so on a lease.
Not sure what current market value is on cylinders, but
http://www.jandrweldingsupply.com/store/GasCylinders/LargeHighPressure.html
...this place shows 300cuft with CGA-540 valves for $362
each. That seems like a great price. So for someone
setting up a fill system in the hangar, I'd go for
about 3 of them, plus a fill hose. Maybe $1200 or so
if you want to buy instead of lease. Keep in mind that
the companies make it painful to buy sometimes, if they
don't fill locally....every time you want a fill they
may send it out for 2 weeks. If you lease, they just
swap with you. Also, if you own, you pay for hydro
tests. If you lease, it's part of the lease. So for
convenience, leasing is better. I have 4 of them
in the hangar, and I go *years* between needing a
bottle filled. So it's not too bad for me.
Jim's right though...convenience is really the driving
force behind doing it yourself. Unless you use a ton
of it, cost won't be less by D-I-Y.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 8/24/2011 10:05 AM, Jim Berry wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Berry"<jimberry@qwest.net>
>
> While leasing a large cylinder is certainly viable, it is probably
> not cost effective for only occasional use. I leased two 300 cu ft
> cylinders for 10 years, and with the cost of the transfill hose and
> pressure gage, I have about $800 invested. I did it for the
> convenience, not to save money.
>
> Jim Berry N15JB
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350441#350441
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| Subject: | Re: Oxygen systems and refilling |
Depending on the shop, some scuba shops can fill pure O2. In Columbus, 'breathing
air systems' on East Broad St. will fill them.
Be careful about doing your own fills - I am a 'training advocate' here. As a
long-time diver, I've actually seen the aftermath of an O2 tank explosion. Pure
O2 tanks are prepped, handled and filled much differently than lower PPO2 tanks.
Phil
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Original Message:
From: Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net>
Cc:
Subject: RV10-List: Oxygen systems and refilling
I'm planning a trip out to Boise next month and have decided that a portable O2
system would be wise. Any recommendations on systems would be appreciated.
Usage would be sporadic.
My home airport has no FBO and no way to refill an O2 bottle. Is leasing a large
single cylinder of O2 and self filling a viable way to go? Given occassional
usage, would it be smarter to send it to be refilled by an O2 supplier? What
does it cost to refill a 22 cu ft bottle?
Sheldon Olesen
N475PV. 292 hrs
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Oxygen systems and refilling |
Why not get a prescription for a medical O2 refill?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil N
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Oxygen systems and refilling
Depending on the shop, some scuba shops can fill pure O2. In Columbus,
'breathing air systems' on East Broad St. will fill them.
Be careful about doing your own fills - I am a 'training advocate' here. As
a long-time diver, I've actually seen the aftermath of an O2 tank explosion.
Pure O2 tanks are prepped, handled and filled much differently than lower
PPO2 tanks.
Phil
-------------------------
Original Message:
From: Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net>
Cc:
Subject: RV10-List: Oxygen systems and refilling
I'm planning a trip out to Boise next month and have decided that a portable
O2 system would be wise. Any recommendations on systems would be
appreciated. Usage would be sporadic.
My home airport has no FBO and no way to refill an O2 bottle. Is leasing a
large single cylinder of O2 and self filling a viable way to go? Given
occassional usage, would it be smarter to send it to be refilled by an O2
supplier? What does it cost to refill a 22 cu ft bottle?
Sheldon Olesen
N475PV. 292 hrs
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Oxygen systems and refilling |
There's no reason to get a prescription for medical O2.
It would probably cost you more anyway.
The fact is, at most sites, ALL of the O2 is filled
off of the exact same tap, be it welding, aviation, or
medical. The main differences are in the handling, or
in some cases the filling. For filling some varieties
they draw a vacuum on the cylinder before filling it.
Welding requires high purity O2, just as much as medical
does. Moisture specs are different for aviation, but,
the same tap fills each, as they are all dry. So
dealing with it by getting a prescription is just a
prescription for adding more cost and hassle.
And Phil is right...there are valid worries when filling
O2. I've seen an O2 fire, and I've run a mixed gas
and O2/Nitrox filling station for a few years. There
are 2 major things to consider....one is that everything
you fill with high O2 percentages should be cleaned
and have special lubes for O2 service. The other is
that whenever you open a valve, you should do it
slowly. Adiabatic compression has very real effects on
temperature and the ability to ignite a fire. So always
open a valve slowly. If you do those things, there
really is very little to worry about.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 8/24/2011 11:45 AM, DLM wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "DLM"<dlm34077@q.com>
>
> Why not get a prescription for a medical O2 refill?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil N
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:03 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Oxygen systems and refilling
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Phil N<philn@toosan.com>
>
> Depending on the shop, some scuba shops can fill pure O2. In Columbus,
> 'breathing air systems' on East Broad St. will fill them.
>
> Be careful about doing your own fills - I am a 'training advocate' here. As
> a long-time diver, I've actually seen the aftermath of an O2 tank explosion.
> Pure O2 tanks are prepped, handled and filled much differently than lower
> PPO2 tanks.
>
> Phil
>
>
> -------------------------
> Original Message:
> From: Sheldon Olesen<saolesen@sirentel.net>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Cc:
> Date: Wednesday, August 24 2011 10:59 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Oxygen systems and refilling
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sheldon Olesen<saolesen@sirentel.net>
>
> I'm planning a trip out to Boise next month and have decided that a portable
> O2 system would be wise. Any recommendations on systems would be
> appreciated. Usage would be sporadic.
>
> My home airport has no FBO and no way to refill an O2 bottle. Is leasing a
> large single cylinder of O2 and self filling a viable way to go? Given
> occassional usage, would it be smarter to send it to be refilled by an O2
> supplier? What does it cost to refill a 22 cu ft bottle?
>
> Sheldon Olesen
> N475PV. 292 hrs
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
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| Subject: | Oxygen systems and refilling |
No reason for getting a Rx for oxygen. We get it delivered to the dental of
fice I share with my daughter and it comes in the same tanks and from the s
ame source as the welding oxygen I have at home. Same thing for nursing hom
es. Only very large hospitals get it delivered in liquid form. Doctor's off
ice=2C nursing home=2C welding shops and FBOs ALL get the same thing. The o
nly difference is the price you pay as a consumer. Been there. Done that. A
ll the above.
> From: dlm34077@q.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Oxygen systems and refilling
> Date: Wed=2C 24 Aug 2011 09:45:24 -0700
>
>
> Why not get a prescription for a medical O2 refill?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil N
> Sent: Wednesday=2C August 24=2C 2011 9:03 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Oxygen systems and refilling
>
>
> Depending on the shop=2C some scuba shops can fill pure O2. In Columbus
=2C
> 'breathing air systems' on East Broad St. will fill them.
>
> Be careful about doing your own fills - I am a 'training advocate' here.
As
> a long-time diver=2C I've actually seen the aftermath of an O2 tank explo
sion.
> Pure O2 tanks are prepped=2C handled and filled much differently than low
er
> PPO2 tanks.
>
> Phil
>
>
> -------------------------
> Original Message:
> From: Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Cc:
> Date: Wednesday=2C August 24 2011 10:59 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Oxygen systems and refilling
>
> I'm planning a trip out to Boise next month and have decided that a porta
ble
> O2 system would be wise. Any recommendations on systems would be
> appreciated. Usage would be sporadic.
>
> My home airport has no FBO and no way to refill an O2 bottle. Is leasing
a
> large single cylinder of O2 and self filling a viable way to go? Given
> occassional usage=2C would it be smarter to send it to be refilled by an
O2
> supplier? What does it cost to refill a 22 cu ft bottle?
>
> Sheldon Olesen
> N475PV. 292 hrs
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oxygen systems and refilling |
I just purchase a system this year and it only cost me between $450 and
$500. Don't remember the exact number.
1 Large Cylinder (Purchase)
1 Transfill
1 Dolly
I have a built in Mountain High system, so I think in the long run it will
work great for me. Can't tell yet since the system is so efficient. The
convenience of having one is more important to me. I don't even start
worrying about the O2 level until it gets to 500 PSI. I use the system on
every cross country flight, anytime above 10,000. Living in Utah, that is
every cross country flight.....for the most part. I have never had to fill
off station. When I made my trip to southern Cal last year, with 4 soles on
board, on O2 for about 10 hours.....I only used half a tank. What a great
system.....but very pricy.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Oxygen systems and refilling
I'm not sure what the leases are these days. I thought before
I had been paying $150 for 5 years or something like that,
per cylinder. I spent only about $100-125 in transfill
hardware. So unless leases have changed a lot, it shouldn't
take $800 to get set up for filling. At the time, I
could have bought my OWN 2 large cylinders and owned them
for that kind of cash. I used to have to do a lot of
this stuff because I owned or leased Argon, Helium, and
Oxygen cylinders for doing deep mixed-gas technical SCUBA
dives. I still own a 400cf Helium cylinder, and converted
4 of them to Oxygen for the hangar. I haven't leased
for a while though. I would figure that unless pricing
is vastly different, a guy should be able to get set
up for $500 or so on a lease.
Not sure what current market value is on cylinders, but
http://www.jandrweldingsupply.com/store/GasCylinders/LargeHighPressure.html
...this place shows 300cuft with CGA-540 valves for $362
each. That seems like a great price. So for someone
setting up a fill system in the hangar, I'd go for
about 3 of them, plus a fill hose. Maybe $1200 or so
if you want to buy instead of lease. Keep in mind that
the companies make it painful to buy sometimes, if they
don't fill locally....every time you want a fill they
may send it out for 2 weeks. If you lease, they just
swap with you. Also, if you own, you pay for hydro
tests. If you lease, it's part of the lease. So for
convenience, leasing is better. I have 4 of them
in the hangar, and I go *years* between needing a
bottle filled. So it's not too bad for me.
Jim's right though...convenience is really the driving
force behind doing it yourself. Unless you use a ton
of it, cost won't be less by D-I-Y.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 8/24/2011 10:05 AM, Jim Berry wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Berry"<jimberry@qwest.net>
>
> While leasing a large cylinder is certainly viable, it is probably
> not cost effective for only occasional use. I leased two 300 cu ft
> cylinders for 10 years, and with the cost of the transfill hose and
> pressure gage, I have about $800 invested. I did it for the
> convenience, not to save money.
>
> Jim Berry N15JB
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350441#350441
>
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Thanks to all who replied. A guy can always count on this list to come through
with useful info. After reading the posts, I'm leaning heavily toward the Mountain
High system and forgetting about refilling my own tank for now. If usage
becomes heavy, then I'll revisit whether to fill my own.
Thanks again for the help!
Sheldon Olesen
N475PV
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That would be my recommendation. I know I can't get 10 hours on
a half bottle with 4 people, so if those numbers Rene put out
are correct, then he's probably getting 5x what I'm getting,
and I'm getting 3x-5x over what the simple conserving cannulas are.
The other benefit to the "good" O2 systems is that the cannulas
on the sensing pulse/demand systems are much smaller and
more comfortable...just the hose with 2 stubs, and no
puff balloons on the sides. Much less intrusive.
I may some day buy a pulse system for my front seats.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 8/24/2011 2:03 PM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sheldon
> Olesen<saolesen@sirentel.net>
>
> Thanks to all who replied. A guy can always count on this list to
> come through with useful info. After reading the posts, I'm leaning
> heavily toward the Mountain High system and forgetting about
> refilling my own tank for now. If usage becomes heavy, then I'll
> revisit whether to fill my own.
>
> Thanks again for the help!
>
> Sheldon Olesen N475PV
>
> Do Not Archive
>
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One thing to add......I have the CFFC-048 (Carbon-Fiber-Wrapped cylinder) at
48 Cu. Ft. in my built in system. It is a big tank......
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: O2 Thanks
That would be my recommendation. I know I can't get 10 hours on
a half bottle with 4 people, so if those numbers Rene put out
are correct, then he's probably getting 5x what I'm getting,
and I'm getting 3x-5x over what the simple conserving cannulas are.
The other benefit to the "good" O2 systems is that the cannulas
on the sensing pulse/demand systems are much smaller and
more comfortable...just the hose with 2 stubs, and no
puff balloons on the sides. Much less intrusive.
I may some day buy a pulse system for my front seats.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 8/24/2011 2:03 PM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sheldon
> Olesen<saolesen@sirentel.net>
>
> Thanks to all who replied. A guy can always count on this list to
> come through with useful info. After reading the posts, I'm leaning
> heavily toward the Mountain High system and forgetting about
> refilling my own tank for now. If usage becomes heavy, then I'll
> revisit whether to fill my own.
>
> Thanks again for the help!
>
> Sheldon Olesen N475PV
>
> Do Not Archive
>
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AHHHH!!!! That changes the formula a bit then. :) Mine
is maybe a 20 or 22cuft.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 8/24/2011 3:04 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker"<rene@felker.com>
>
> One thing to add......I have the CFFC-048 (Carbon-Fiber-Wrapped cylinder) at
> 48 Cu. Ft. in my built in system. It is a big tank......
>
> Rene' Felker
> N423CF
> 801-721-6080
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:46 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: O2 Thanks
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com>
>
> That would be my recommendation. I know I can't get 10 hours on
> a half bottle with 4 people, so if those numbers Rene put out
> are correct, then he's probably getting 5x what I'm getting,
> and I'm getting 3x-5x over what the simple conserving cannulas are.
> The other benefit to the "good" O2 systems is that the cannulas
> on the sensing pulse/demand systems are much smaller and
> more comfortable...just the hose with 2 stubs, and no
> puff balloons on the sides. Much less intrusive.
> I may some day buy a pulse system for my front seats.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 8/24/2011 2:03 PM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sheldon
>> Olesen<saolesen@sirentel.net>
>>
>> Thanks to all who replied. A guy can always count on this list to
>> come through with useful info. After reading the posts, I'm leaning
>> heavily toward the Mountain High system and forgetting about
>> refilling my own tank for now. If usage becomes heavy, then I'll
>> revisit whether to fill my own.
>>
>> Thanks again for the help!
>>
>> Sheldon Olesen N475PV
>>
>> Do Not Archive
>>
>
>
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FWIW, this is the data MH provides:
http://www.mhoxygen.com/attachments/052_Cyl%20Chart%20Inside%20Front%20Cover.pdf
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> AHHHH!!!! That changes the formula a bit then. :) Mine
> is maybe a 20 or 22cuft.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 8/24/2011 3:04 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker"<rene@felker.com>
>>
>> One thing to add......I have the CFFC-048 (Carbon-Fiber-Wrapped cylinder)
>> at
>> 48 Cu. Ft. in my built in system. It is a big tank......
>>
>> Rene' Felker
>> N423CF
>> 801-721-6080
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@**matronics.com<owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-**server@matronics.com<owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>]
>> On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:46 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: O2 Thanks
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com>
>>
>> That would be my recommendation. I know I can't get 10 hours on
>> a half bottle with 4 people, so if those numbers Rene put out
>> are correct, then he's probably getting 5x what I'm getting,
>> and I'm getting 3x-5x over what the simple conserving cannulas are.
>> The other benefit to the "good" O2 systems is that the cannulas
>> on the sensing pulse/demand systems are much smaller and
>> more comfortable...just the hose with 2 stubs, and no
>> puff balloons on the sides. Much less intrusive.
>> I may some day buy a pulse system for my front seats.
>>
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> On 8/24/2011 2:03 PM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
>>
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sheldon
>>> Olesen<saolesen@sirentel.net>
>>>
>>> Thanks to all who replied. A guy can always count on this list to
>>> come through with useful info. After reading the posts, I'm leaning
>>> heavily toward the Mountain High system and forgetting about
>>> refilling my own tank for now. If usage becomes heavy, then I'll
>>> revisit whether to fill my own.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for the help!
>>>
>>> Sheldon Olesen N475PV
>>>
>>> Do Not Archive
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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83.6 at 10,000 and 40.5 at 15,000
I am seeing these types of numbers if not a little better. It is a great
system. When people ask what was the best thing I added to the airplane...I
say O2. My wife does not fly above 10,000 without O2 or she gets sick. I
have gotten into the habit of putting on the O2 even on short, lower trips
(low for Utah), and wearing it all the way to landing.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: O2 Thanks
FWIW, this is the data MH provides:
http://www.mhoxygen.com/attachments/052_Cyl%20Chart%20Inside%20Front%20Cover
.pdf
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
AHHHH!!!! That changes the formula a bit then. :) Mine
is maybe a 20 or 22cuft.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 8/24/2011 3:04 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker"<rene@felker.com>
One thing to add......I have the CFFC-048 (Carbon-Fiber-Wrapped cylinder) at
48 Cu. Ft. in my built in system. It is a big tank......
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: O2 Thanks
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com>
That would be my recommendation. I know I can't get 10 hours on
a half bottle with 4 people, so if those numbers Rene put out
are correct, then he's probably getting 5x what I'm getting,
and I'm getting 3x-5x over what the simple conserving cannulas are.
The other benefit to the "good" O2 systems is that the cannulas
on the sensing pulse/demand systems are much smaller and
more comfortable...just the hose with 2 stubs, and no
puff balloons on the sides. Much less intrusive.
I may some day buy a pulse system for my front seats.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 8/24/2011 2:03 PM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sheldon
Olesen<saolesen@sirentel.net>
Thanks to all who replied. A guy can always count on this list to
come through with useful info. After reading the posts, I'm leaning
heavily toward the Mountain High system and forgetting about
refilling my own tank for now. If usage becomes heavy, then I'll
revisit whether to fill my own.
Thanks again for the help!
Sheldon Olesen N475PV
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Fwd: B: Tire Tube Test for Goodyear |
I don't know if Goodyear would consider something besides a
Bonanza....I think some of the RV-10 fleet up north maybe more active
than the forked tail crowd. In any case, good info of new tube
availability, probably next year.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John W. Wiebener <weebsf16@earthlink.net>
Subject: B: Tire Tube Test for Goodyear
Fellow Beechlisters - this from my good friend Dick Delagrange from Goodyear
(who has been a B2OSH supporter for many years!):
John,
We have new tubes coming out shortly that employ a combination of the air
retention capabilities of Buytl and the tenacity of Natural rubber. These
tubes are fully approved and are superior to the butyl tube in cold
temperature operations and durability. Sizes are 7.00/8.00x6 TR20 & 5.00x5
TR67 Tubes.
We are looking for a few operators who can mount these tubes on wing this
fall and report back to us in the spring with their results. Tubes are
Free of Charge.
Target group is about a half dozen bonanza drivers to install the tubes
this fall and provide us feed back in the spring. It's important that we
place the tubes on aircraft that are fairly active. Additionally we prefer
testing in cold weather and lots of cycles.
Richard "Dick" Delagrange
Central Region Sales Manager
Goodyear Aviation Tires
Phone: 972.677.7100
FAX: 972.677.7102
dick_delagrange@goodyear.com
Please respond directly to Dick offlist with your information if you are
interested in participating. I know we all want something for free - but
Dick really needs a target audience from the northern tier that flies
frequently. Thinking Ward Anderson, Marc Charron, Dave VanHorn, etc..
Just the messenger, not the message. But this is a good thing!!
John "Weebs" Wiebener
Edgewood, NM (1N1)
V-35A D-8780 N111GS
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