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1. 05:02 AM - Re: Today, N215TG flew for the first time (Lew Gallagher)
2. 05:37 AM - Re: Today, N215TG flew for the first time (Fred Williams, M.D.)
3. 06:06 AM - Re: Today, N215TG flew for the first time (Bill Watson)
4. 06:09 AM - Re: Today, N215TG flew for the first time (Robin Marks)
5. 06:12 AM - Re: Today, N215TG flew for the first time (Bill Watson)
6. 06:38 AM - Re: Today, N215TG flew for the first time (Jack Phillips)
7. 07:20 AM - Re: Today, N215TG flew for the first time (John Jessen)
8. 10:02 AM - Re: Circuit Protection (Matt Dralle)
9. 11:04 AM - Re: RV7-List: Re: Circuit Protection (Bob Collins)
10. 12:50 PM - Re: Re: RV7-List: Re: Circuit Protection (Jesse Saint)
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| Subject: | Re: Today, N215TG flew for the first time |
Hey Bill,
Nice, Nice, Nice !!! Paint, grin, sweetie, etc. I love the camera angle
that makes the FWF look about a mile long.
Compare and contrast to the Maul?
Later, - Lew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Watson" <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Today, N215TG flew for the first time
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> I like!
>
> Thanks all. As many have said before, it's worth it.
>
> Bill "the pics don't show proof but believe...." Watson
>
> http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150270042281127.325913.601806126&l=03397c5410&type=1
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| Subject: | Re: Today, N215TG flew for the first time |
Congrats. What a fun day. When does #002 come off the line?
Dr Fred
370 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Today, N215TG flew for the first time |
There's no meaningful comparison to the Maule. First I have to say that
it's been a blast using the Maule to commute between 8NC8 and KHNZ to
assemble and fly the '10. With the pilot door removed, the 6:00 am (now
7:00am) flights have been some of the best in the Maule in a long time.
On my first takeoff, both my Tech advisor and spouse were surprised at
how quickly I got off...they said it seemed shorter than the Maule. I
know it was a bit longer but a lot faster. I had done a quick power
loading comparision in my head and think there's a 20 or 30% advantage
for the '10. Will check on paper but that's what it felt like.
As I had expected, the '10 is easier to fly than the Maule and I don't
expect that perception to change. A lightly (wing) loaded, short
coupled 180hp tailwheel plane can keep you busy near the ground.
Two things I worried about on the first test flight was 1) compensating
for the IO-540's torque and 2) trim. The familiarity flight I took the
day before in Ken Barto's '10 cleared that up. Yes, more torque, but
fewer moving parts than a tailwheel crosswind takeoff in an 180hp
Maule. Yes, I had little idea where the trim should be initially but it
doesn't matter. The controls are light enough the '10 can be flown out
of trim quite easily until things are dialed in. An out of trim takeoff
in the Maule will build strong muscles and ducking below the glare
shield to fix it takes practice.
We noticed that the Maule didn't look sad at all sitting on the ramp
while her replacement was wheeled on the ramp. Tail wheel Maules stand
tall and proud no matter what!
Bill "driving around the edge of Irene to do some tuning on Tigressa" Watson
On 8/27/2011 7:57 AM, Lew Gallagher wrote:
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> Hey Bill,
>
> Nice, Nice, Nice !!! Paint, grin, sweetie, etc. I love the camera
> angle that makes the FWF look about a mile long.
>
> Compare and contrast to the Maul?
>
> Later, - Lew
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Watson" <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 11:31 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Today, N215TG flew for the first time
>
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>> I like!
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>> Thanks all. As many have said before, it's worth it.
>>
>> Bill "the pics don't show proof but believe...." Watson
>>
>> http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150270042281127.325913.601806126&l=03397c5410&type=1
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| Subject: | Re: Today, N215TG flew for the first time |
Proof enough for me. Good looking plane. From what I can tell you did
a nice job on the details.
Robin
Sent from my iPad2.
On Aug 26, 2011, at 11:40 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
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> I like!
>
> Thanks all. As many have said before, it's worth it.
>
> Bill "the pics don't show proof but believe...." Watson
>
> http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150270042281127.325913.601806126&l=03397c5410&type=1
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| Subject: | Re: Today, N215TG flew for the first time |
If there's a second, I'll need the epidural...
On 8/27/2011 8:34 AM, Fred Williams, M.D. wrote:
> <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
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> Congrats. What a fun day. When does #002 come off the line?
>
> Dr Fred
> 370 hrs
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| Subject: | Today, N215TG flew for the first time |
Way to go, Bill! So the first of the RTP area RV-10's flies! Jonathon
Bryant will be next, with me bringing up the rear in a few years.
Jack Phillips
#40610
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Today, N215TG flew for the first time
Just ahead of Irene, Tigressa flew. Yaaay!!
Time break it in, tune it up, and fly the hell out of it!
Bill "feeling fine" Watson
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| Subject: | Re: Today, N215TG flew for the first time |
Bill, congratulations!
... by phone
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| Subject: | Re: Circuit Protection |
At 10:18 AM 8/24/2011 Wednesday, you wrote:
>I won't be writing the check for awhile, but I'm looking really hard at using
the VP-X for circuit protection with a few exceptions now that Dynon Skyview is
compatible. A little spendy, but I like the features and wiring simplifications
it offers. An electrical whiz I ain't. Any personal experience out there
I can tap into? So far I haven't seen anything I would call really negative,
but I'm going to have to raise my confidence level a bit more before I lock
in a decision. In the meantime, I occasionally take a break from hammers and
hacksaws and spend some time on electrical schematics. Good mental exercise,
but I'd like to minimize the iterations.
>
>Stan Loer
>RV-8 QB
Hi Stan,
You might want to seriously consider the Vertical Power VP-200 system over the
VP-x. Its a fair amount more expensive, but it adds a LOT of additional functionality.
Depending on your compliment of accessories, the VP-200 will almost
completely eliminate the need for SWITCHES of any kind. This makes for a really
clean panel. I've flow with the VP-200 in my RV-8 for 170 hours and haven't
had a single issue with it and frankly can't imagine flying without it.
The VP-x uses the same electronic breaker technology found in the VP-200, but still
requires individual, low current switches to switch the various circuits
on and off (e.g. landing light, etc.). With the VP-200, all of that is done automatically
based on the autodetected mode of flight (Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruse,
etc). Basically, you get in the plane, push the "ON" button, and you never
have to think about switches again. You can still manually select the mode
and/or manually turn individually turn circuits on/off if you need to. Love
it.
I highly recommend the VP-200 system from Vertical Power.
Matt
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| Subject: | Re: RE: RV7-List: Re: Circuit Protection |
I was one of the early adopters of the VP system, though -- being a working
stiff, I ended up going with the VP-50, since discontinued in favor of the
VPX. The principle is certainly the same, so you may want to look at this
article I wrote:
http://rvbuildershotline.com/articles/2010/vp50.html
The biggest thing I like about it is I - like you- am not an electrical
engineer and I didn't want my panel loaded up with circuit breakers. The VP
system is simple: Wire to it with the supplied wire, configure, done.
As far as the VP-200, yeah, if you've got the trust fund, it's definitely
the way to go (g). It's a wonderful piece of machinery. Here's some
background an interview I did with Marc when it first came on the scene:
http://rvbuildershotline.com/articles/2008/vertical_power.html
The service from VP is top notch. It's a great company. There's nothing I
can think of that I would say to dissuade you from going that route.
Bob Collins
RV-7A
St. Paul, MN.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 11:57 AM
rv7-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV7-List: Re: Circuit Protection
--> RV7-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
At 10:18 AM 8/24/2011 Wednesday, you wrote:
>I won't be writing the check for awhile, but I'm looking really hard at
using the VP-X for circuit protection with a few exceptions now that Dynon
Skyview is compatible. A little spendy, but I like the features and wiring
simplifications it offers. An electrical whiz I ain't. Any personal
experience out there I can tap into? So far I haven't seen anything I would
call really negative, but I'm going to have to raise my confidence level a
bit more before I lock in a decision. In the meantime, I occasionally take
a break from hammers and hacksaws and spend some time on electrical
schematics. Good mental exercise, but I'd like to minimize the iterations.
>
>Stan Loer
>RV-8 QB
Hi Stan,
You might want to seriously consider the Vertical Power VP-200 system over
the VP-x. Its a fair amount more expensive, but it adds a LOT of additional
functionality. Depending on your compliment of accessories, the VP-200 will
almost completely eliminate the need for SWITCHES of any kind. This makes
for a really clean panel. I've flow with the VP-200 in my RV-8 for 170
hours and haven't had a single issue with it and frankly can't imagine
flying without it.
The VP-x uses the same electronic breaker technology found in the VP-200,
but still requires individual, low current switches to switch the various
circuits on and off (e.g. landing light, etc.). With the VP-200, all of
that is done automatically based on the autodetected mode of flight (Taxi,
Runup, Takeoff, Cruse, etc). Basically, you get in the plane, push the "ON"
button, and you never have to think about switches again. You can still
manually select the mode and/or manually turn individually turn circuits
on/off if you need to. Love it.
I highly recommend the VP-200 system from Vertical Power.
Matt
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| Subject: | Re: RE: RV7-List: Re: Circuit Protection |
I agree with both replies so far. The VP system simplifies wiring in a huge way.
The VP-200 is fantastic for simplifying the pilot's workload, if you can afford
it. The VP-X, while I haven't tried it yet, is similar in functionality
to the VP-50 and VP-100, which are both discontinued. I have been extremely
happy with them. Marc is great to work with and the VP system in general gives
you much more control over and information in your electrical system. It may
seem expensive, but the things that it saves you (relay decks, flap positioning
system, etc.) probably completely pay for it.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Aug 27, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Bob Collins wrote:
>
>
> I was one of the early adopters of the VP system, though -- being a working
> stiff, I ended up going with the VP-50, since discontinued in favor of the
> VPX. The principle is certainly the same, so you may want to look at this
> article I wrote:
>
> http://rvbuildershotline.com/articles/2010/vp50.html
>
> The biggest thing I like about it is I - like you- am not an electrical
> engineer and I didn't want my panel loaded up with circuit breakers. The VP
> system is simple: Wire to it with the supplied wire, configure, done.
>
> As far as the VP-200, yeah, if you've got the trust fund, it's definitely
> the way to go (g). It's a wonderful piece of machinery. Here's some
> background an interview I did with Marc when it first came on the scene:
>
>
> http://rvbuildershotline.com/articles/2008/vertical_power.html
>
> The service from VP is top notch. It's a great company. There's nothing I
> can think of that I would say to dissuade you from going that route.
>
> Bob Collins
> RV-7A
> St. Paul, MN.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 11:57 AM
> To: rv8-list@matronics.com; rv10-list@matronics.com; rv-list@matronics.com;
> rv7-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV7-List: Re: Circuit Protection
>
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
> At 10:18 AM 8/24/2011 Wednesday, you wrote:
>> I won't be writing the check for awhile, but I'm looking really hard at
> using the VP-X for circuit protection with a few exceptions now that Dynon
> Skyview is compatible. A little spendy, but I like the features and wiring
> simplifications it offers. An electrical whiz I ain't. Any personal
> experience out there I can tap into? So far I haven't seen anything I would
> call really negative, but I'm going to have to raise my confidence level a
> bit more before I lock in a decision. In the meantime, I occasionally take
> a break from hammers and hacksaws and spend some time on electrical
> schematics. Good mental exercise, but I'd like to minimize the iterations.
>>
>> Stan Loer
>> RV-8 QB
>
>
> Hi Stan,
>
> You might want to seriously consider the Vertical Power VP-200 system over
> the VP-x. Its a fair amount more expensive, but it adds a LOT of additional
> functionality. Depending on your compliment of accessories, the VP-200 will
> almost completely eliminate the need for SWITCHES of any kind. This makes
> for a really clean panel. I've flow with the VP-200 in my RV-8 for 170
> hours and haven't had a single issue with it and frankly can't imagine
> flying without it.
>
> The VP-x uses the same electronic breaker technology found in the VP-200,
> but still requires individual, low current switches to switch the various
> circuits on and off (e.g. landing light, etc.). With the VP-200, all of
> that is done automatically based on the autodetected mode of flight (Taxi,
> Runup, Takeoff, Cruse, etc). Basically, you get in the plane, push the "ON"
> button, and you never have to think about switches again. You can still
> manually select the mode and/or manually turn individually turn circuits
> on/off if you need to. Love it.
>
> I highly recommend the VP-200 system from Vertical Power.
>
> Matt
>
>
> -
> Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
>
>
>
>
>
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