RV10-List Digest Archive

Mon 09/05/11


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:29 AM - Post in Aeroelectric list Re: Odyssey 680 and engine starts (rv10flyer)
     2. 07:48 AM - Re: Post in Aeroelectric list Re: Odyssey 680 and engine starts (Kelly McMullen)
     3. 08:20 AM - Wires to tail (Craig Rufi)
     4. 08:38 AM - Re: parking brake valve (Roxanne Lefever)
     5. 08:59 AM - Re: parking brake valve (Sean Stephens)
     6. 09:42 AM - Re: Wires to tail (Marcus Cooper)
     7. 10:10 AM - Re: Wires to tail (Craig Rufi)
     8. 10:26 AM - Re: Wires to tail (Dick Gurley)
     9. 10:50 AM - Re: Wires to tail (Marcus Cooper)
    10. 12:00 PM - fuselage kit (Rick Lark)
    11. 12:29 PM - Re: fuselage kit (Paul Bowmar)
    12. 03:34 PM - Re: Wires to tail (rv10flyer)
    13. 08:53 PM - Cabin Side Panel (Albert Gardner)
    14. 09:10 PM - Re: Cabin Side Panel (Rick)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:29:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Post in Aeroelectric list re: Odyssey 680 and engine starts
    From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie@yahoo.com>
    We are getting too much voltage drop with that long #2 wire and should be running #1 or 0. The lycoming supplied starter would work fine then. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&amp;P 5/93, PPC 10/08 Bldr# 40983SB Baffles then fuel/oil/exhaust. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351460#351460


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    Time: 07:48:42 AM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: Post in Aeroelectric list re: Odyssey 680 and engine starts
    Something is wrong with the circuit. #2 wire should be more than adequate. Vans supplies #2 for connection battery to master relay, master relay to starter relay and starter relay to starter. My Mooney has the battery behind the baggage compartment with same #2 wire. Same length run. Took me some work to eliminate all high resistance connections, but once I got all connections clean, air tight, the performance issues went away. I do have a PM starter and they have HUGE current draws compared to other design starters. The Skytec trouble shooting chart is good for determining where the problem originates. If there is too much voltage drop in that one cable there is a problem with the connection at one end or the other or in the ground return. #2 will carry the current needed without excessive voltage drop. You have to ensure there are good tight crimped connectors and tight connections. I suppose you could have a relay with excessive voltage drop. On 9/5/2011 7:24 AM, rv10flyer wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "rv10flyer"<wayne.gillispie@yahoo.com> > > We are getting too much voltage drop with that long #2 wire and should be running #1 or 0. The lycoming supplied starter would work fine then. > > -------- > Wayne Gillispie, A&amp;P 5/93, PPC 10/08 > Bldr# 40983SB Baffles then fuel/oil/exhaust. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351460#351460 > >


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    Time: 08:20:22 AM PST US
    From: Craig Rufi <craigr60@gmail.com>
    Subject: Wires to tail
    I am wiring the tail light and find that there are no holes for a grommet thru the bulkhead. Are we drill the bulkhead? or are there other thoughts... Thanks Craig


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    Time: 08:38:45 AM PST US
    From: Roxanne Lefever <roxianmike@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: parking brake valve
    Anyone know if someone sells a mounting bracket for the Matco parking brake valve? I am a poor designer and even worse at fabricating so looking for short cut.


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    Time: 08:59:24 AM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: parking brake valve
    AirWard does... http://www.airward.com/amelia/search.asp?store=airward&action=Search&ShowDetails=True&ShowImages=True&cat=10000006&subcat_10000003=10000006 -Sean #40303 (painting fuse interior) On 9/4/11 12:36 PM, Roxanne Lefever wrote: > > Anyone know if someone sells a mounting bracket for the Matco parking > brake valve? I am a poor designer and even worse at fabricating so > looking for short cut. > > * > > > *


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    Time: 09:42:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wires to tail
    From: Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net>
    I drilled a hole for the wires and installed pastic grommets. Having just rewired the tail strobelight I would probably go with a very lightweight plastic conduit through the large lightening holes next time to make future changes much easier. Marcus On Sep 5, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Craig Rufi wrote: I am wiring the tail light and find that there are no holes for a grommet thru the bulkhead. Are we drill the bulkhead? or are there other thoughts... Thanks Craig


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    Time: 10:10:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wires to tail
    From: Craig Rufi <craigr60@gmail.com>
    Thanks, I to think that lightweight conduit is the way to go. I'm using that in my wings also. Craig On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net> wrote: > > I drilled a hole for the wires and installed pastic grommets. Having just > rewired the tail strobelight I would probably go with a very lightweight > plastic conduit through the large lightening holes next time to make future > changes much easier. > > Marcus > > On Sep 5, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Craig Rufi wrote: > > > I am wiring the tail light and find that there are no holes for a grommet > thru the bulkhead. Are we drill the bulkhead? or are there other thoughts... > Thanks Craig > >


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    Time: 10:26:33 AM PST US
    From: Dick Gurley <rngurley@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Wires to tail
    Where did you drill the hole and how large? Dick Sent from my iPad On Sep 5, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Craig Rufi <craigr60@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, > I to think that lightweight conduit is the way to go. I'm using that in my wings also. Craig > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net> wrote: > > I drilled a hole for the wires and installed pastic grommets. Having just rewired the tail strobelight I would probably go with a very lightweight pl astic conduit through the large lightening holes next time to make future ch anges much easier. > > Marcus > > On Sep 5, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Craig Rufi wrote: > > > I am wiring the tail light and find that there are no holes for a grommet t hru the bulkhead. Are we drill the bulkhead? or are there other thoughts... T hanks Craig > > > > > > > > ========== > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 10:50:42 AM PST US
    From: Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Wires to tail
    Along the bottom, offset to the side from the holes for the rudder cables. I think they were1/2" but not sure. Just large enough to run the wires for the lights. Again, I would recommend the very thin walled PVC pipe or similar down the lightening holes if I were to do it again. I used that in the wings and was glad I did. Marcus On Sep 5, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Dick Gurley wrote: Where did you drill the hole and how large? Dick Sent from my iPad On Sep 5, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Craig Rufi <craigr60@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, > I to think that lightweight conduit is the way to go. I'm using that in my wings also. Craig > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net> wrote: > > I drilled a hole for the wires and installed pastic grommets. Having just rewired the tail strobelight I would probably go with a very lightweight plastic conduit through the large lightening holes next time to make future changes much easier. > > Marcus > > On Sep 5, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Craig Rufi wrote: > > > I am wiring the tail light and find that there are no holes for a grommet thru the bulkhead. Are we drill the bulkhead? or are there other thoughts... Thanks Craig > > > > > > > > ========== > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D


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    Time: 12:00:13 PM PST US
    From: Rick Lark <larkrv10@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: fuselage kit
    Hi all - I want to order the fuse kit in the next couple of weeks and just received the fuselage list from Anne @ Vans. - After going over it fairly closely, there are a few things I want to change out. - 1) The aluminum cabin heat box for stainless.- I have found 2 aftermarket manufacturers.- Plane Innovations and Aviacomp International.- Anyone have an opinion on either?- I believe the Aviacomp is about $20 more each . - 2) Vans fuel valve for the Andair, which I have already bought.- The list shows the valve in bag #487-1, but plans show it as VA178G.- I assume th ey are one and the same. - 3) There are 2 brake hoses listed, F8105, which attach to the master cylind ers and go up to the firewall.- Have others replaced these with aftermark et? - 4) Has anyone replaced the 3003 soft aluminun tube than comes with the kit with 5052-0 rigid tubing that runs from the firewall to the gear legs? - Anyother opinions or recomendations-are welcome. Thx in advance. - Rick #40956 Southampton, Ont. - - -


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    Time: 12:29:14 PM PST US
    From: Paul Bowmar <paul@bwbco.com>
    Subject: Re: fuselage kit
    The ones from Aviacomp weight 10.57 ounces each. The ones from Plane Innovations LLC weigh 6.08 ounces each. That's almost 9 ounces more for Aviacomp for the pair. May not seem like much, but every ounce adds up. And Plane Innovations has them in stock, ready to ship. Paul RV-4 67KB On Sep 5, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Rick Lark wrote: > > Hi all > > I want to order the fuse kit in the next couple of weeks and just received the fuselage list from Anne @ Vans. > > After going over it fairly closely, there are a few things I want to change out. > > 1) The aluminum cabin heat box for stainless. I have found 2 aftermarket manufacturers. Plane Innovations and Aviacomp International. Anyone have an opinion on either? I believe the Aviacomp is about $20 more each. > > 2) Vans fuel valve for the Andair, which I have already bought. The list shows the valve in bag #487-1, but plans show it as VA178G. I assume they are one and the same. > > 3) There are 2 brake hoses listed, F8105, which attach to the master cylinders and go up to the firewall. Have others replaced these with aftermarket? > > 4) Has anyone replaced the 3003 soft aluminun tube than comes with the kit with 5052-0 rigid tubing that runs from the firewall to the gear legs? > > Anyother opinions or recomendations are welcome. Thx in advance. > > Rick > #40956 > Southampton, Ont. > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:34:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wires to tail
    From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie@yahoo.com>
    I drilled approx 5/16" hole on lower lh side. Outside of vs mounting area so that it could be inst/removed w/o pulling wires. Sanded hole with 320 grit and installed heat shrink at pass thru for extra protection. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&amp;P 5/93, PPC 10/08 Bldr# 40983SB Baffles then fuel/oil/exhaust. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351498#351498


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    Time: 08:53:54 PM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Cabin Side Panel
    For those still building, it is a easy step to fabricate side panels to hide wires and make the forward lower fuse side look better. A previous builder gave me this idea. Probably could be done at any time but was easy when building. Just got back from flying about including 26 eastern states, down the Hudson River, up the Mississippi River, with 100 landings and 89 new airports including KFFA (Kill Devil Hills) and KBFI (Boeing Field in downtown Seattle). Total 91 hours and 6 weeks. This is a great airplane. Have only 2 of the 57 states left to land in. Probably won=99t make HI Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ RV-10 N991RV


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    Time: 09:10:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cabin Side Panel
    From: Rick <ricksked@cox.net>
    Two of 57? You should runs for President! ;) Rick Sent from my iPhone On Sep 5, 2011, at 8:50 PM, "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote: > For those still building, it is a easy step to fabricate side panels to hi de wires and make the forward lower fuse side look better. A previous builde r gave me this idea. Probably could be done at any time but was easy when bu ilding. Just got back from flying about including 26 eastern states, down th e Hudson River, up the Mississippi River, with 100 landings and 89 new airpo rts including KFFA (Kill Devil Hills) and KBFI (Boeing Field in downtown Sea ttle). Total 91 hours and 6 weeks. This is a great airplane. Have only 2 of t he 57 states left to land in. Probably won=99t make HI > > Albert Gardner > > Yuma, AZ > > RV-10 N991RV > > <DSC00014 Cabin side panel (Small).JPG>




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