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1. 04:35 AM - Re: Trip East (orchidman)
2. 04:57 AM - Re: Re: Trip East (Jesse Saint)
3. 06:06 AM - Re: Trip East (Lew Gallagher)
4. 06:11 AM - Re: Trip East (BPA)
5. 06:43 AM - Re: Trip East (Fred Williams, M.D.)
6. 07:35 AM - Vans SB (Pascal)
7. 07:51 AM - Re: Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors (Pascal)
8. 09:37 AM - Re: Vans SB (Rene Felker)
9. 10:20 AM - Elevator Trim Indication (Jae Chang)
10. 10:53 AM - Re: Elevator Trim Indication (Rene Felker)
11. 11:04 AM - Re: Vans SB (Marcus Cooper)
12. 11:13 AM - Re: Elevator Trim Indication (Marcus Cooper)
13. 11:19 AM - Re: Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors (Don McDonald)
14. 12:04 PM - Re: Elevator Trim Indication (Rob Kochman)
15. 01:39 PM - Re: Vans SB (Kelly McMullen)
16. 02:40 PM - Re: Vans SB (n801bh@netzero.com)
17. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors (Robin Marks)
18. 03:14 PM - Re: Elevator Trim Indication (Pascal)
19. 03:37 PM - Re: Elevator Trim Indication (Jae Chang)
20. 04:41 PM - Re: Elevator Trim Indication (Rene Felker)
21. 06:18 PM - Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors (Bob Turner)
22. 06:46 PM - Dash board edge trim (Chris)
23. 07:22 PM - Re: Dash board edge trim (Rene)
24. 07:22 PM - Re: Dash board edge trim (Bob Leffler)
25. 08:10 PM - Re: Dash board edge trim (Rick)
26. 09:17 PM - Re: Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors (John Cox)
27. 09:44 PM - Re: Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors (Kelly McMullen)
28. 09:59 PM - Re: Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors (Tim Olson)
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fehdxlbb(at)gmail.com wrote:
> Also consider stopping at Gaston's Resort in Arkansas, Beaumont Hotel in Kansas,
or Lambert's Cafe in Springfield, Missouri. All great places to eat. Have
fun! Best, Jim
Probably need to skip Beaumont as we have rain moving into the area today (hit-n-miss)
and more steady tonight and tomorrow. Make sure you are up on your IFR
for most of OK and AR Thursday.
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
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If you decide to try the real southern route, there is cheap fuel at X35 (and someone
who would take you to dinner), Cedar Key is a really nice place to visit
(KCDK), I have heard great things about Amelia Island (KFHB).
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
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Hey Deems,
Normally, I'd say stop on by Greenville, SC "come see us!" (where your original
rudder pedals live now), especially if you are thinking of Spartanburg (30 mi.).
But I am currently on Ocracoke Is. on my annual surf fishing/therapy trip.
So, since you will be in Greenville, NC and not that far from Ocracoke -- "come
see us"! Give me a call on the cell (864-915-1647) a day in advance and
I'll meet you at the landing strip -- nothing there but the landing strip, no
gas, no transportation, no food, etc. They just this week opened the island to
visitors and they had closed the strip as well due to hurricane Irene. If you
are flying over to check out the damage to the Outer Banks (from Hatteras north)
and you feel like touching down, give me a call. I'll be here until the
24th.
Later, - Lew "not thinking about much but weather, tides, fish"
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Fly off completed !
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Deems, if you have time stop in Tulsa for a short visit.
Allen
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:15 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Trip East
Judy and I are heading out to the EastCoast from DVT. We are leaving
Thurs am. and plan to o'nite in Branson Mo. weather permitting, Then on
into Greenville NC. On Fri. We will spend the weekend with our son and
daughter in law and then head to FRG on Mon. We've made the trip from
DVT -OSH-FRG a couple of times and have a good idea of the what to see
and expect on the 'northen' route, but with our son recently locating in
NC it gives us an opportunity to make the trip a bigger loop this time.
So since the east coast is not my stomping ground I thought I'd ping
this group for input. We are definitely going to make a visit to 1st
Flight either by air or land. While we are there. My son also informs me
that we HAVE to do some NC BarBQ while we are there. Other than that
we'd love any suggestions, particularly for fuel/rest stops & FBO's.
Deems
N519PJ
deemsrv10.com
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Deems;
If weather pushes you around and you need an overnight in North East
Texas, I have extra rooms available here in Paris.
PS
That goes for any other RV10 ers who need an overnight.
Dr Fred
KPRX
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Service Bulletin 11-9-13 (all models)
Posted on factory site today. Comply before further flight.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb11-9-13.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors |
Once I get my plane flying and =9Cbroken in=9D I=99ll
fly out to Pecan and we=99ll get the settings worked out. Sounds
like you=99re a guru! specially with those Gph. I just filled ONE
tank and it was $200.. ouchhhhhhhhhhhhhhh- reality is sinking in.
Pascal
From: Don McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors
Nope.... stock is .028...... my only adjustment was changing out the
.028 for a .0265 in the #4 cylinder. What I can tell you is that when
you're doing the LOP test... do it on a couple (several) of different
days, with different wind directions, and different temps, power
settings, altitudes.... it all seems to matter... then just when you
think you've got it, it'll change a little on you. Also, rather than
trying to write down all the gph and temp settings, just take a digtal
pic every 10th of a gallon.
Don McDonald
Flying this wonderful machine!
From: rv10flyer <wayne.gillispie@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors
Sorry, mine are about .023" not .028". I plan on balancing next year.
They start out small don't they.
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Bldr# 40983SB Baffles then fuel/oil/exhaust.
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Makes me glad I did not get Sloshed during my aircraft build. Sometimes it
is good to follow the plans.
Will hit 200 hours on my plane on the next flight...seems like I just
finished it.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:31 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Vans SB
Service Bulletin 11-9-13 (all models)
Posted on factory site today. Comply before further flight.
<http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb11-9-13.pdf>
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb11-9-13.pdf
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| Subject: | Elevator Trim Indication |
http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1315888107/0
I was playing with calibrating my elevator trim indicator on the Skyview
system, when i noticed something non-intuitive to me.
The calibration tool has you set full nose up 0V, full nose down 5V, and
take off position (not flying yet so not sure). However, there is no
calibration for neutral position, or where the trim tab trailing edge is
even with the elevator trailing edge which is at 3.2V. Thus, when my
trim tab is at the neutral position, the indicator is a notch or two
higher than center.
I was just curious how other systems are calibrated. Is this a
non-issue? I just intuitively thought this would be useful since we
can't directly see the trim tab in flight.
We can see the elevator counteweights. Thus, when those are even with
the HS, can i assume the trim tab trailing edges must be even too?
Jae
40533
Hating paperwork way more than fiberglass work!
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| Subject: | Elevator Trim Indication |
I have the GRT system and the calibration goes about the same way, except I
do not get to set a takeoff position. Wish I could. I have found no use
for the middle position marker other than to judge how far above I need to
be for takeoff.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:14 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Elevator Trim Indication
http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1315888107/0
I was playing with calibrating my elevator trim indicator on the Skyview
system, when i noticed something non-intuitive to me.
The calibration tool has you set full nose up 0V, full nose down 5V, and
take off position (not flying yet so not sure). However, there is no
calibration for neutral position, or where the trim tab trailing edge is
even with the elevator trailing edge which is at 3.2V. Thus, when my
trim tab is at the neutral position, the indicator is a notch or two
higher than center.
I was just curious how other systems are calibrated. Is this a
non-issue? I just intuitively thought this would be useful since we
can't directly see the trim tab in flight.
We can see the elevator counteweights. Thus, when those are even with
the HS, can i assume the trim tab trailing edges must be even too?
Jae
40533
Hating paperwork way more than fiberglass work!
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My thoughts as well, although if they sent quick build tanks that don't
leak it would sure reduce the temptation! :(
Marcus
do not archive
On Sep 14, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
Makes me glad I did not get Sloshed during my aircraft build. Sometimes
it is good to follow the plans.
Will hit 200 hours on my plane on the next flight=85..seems like I just
finished it.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:31 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Vans SB
Service Bulletin 11-9-13 (all models)
Posted on factory site today. Comply before further flight.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb11-9-13.pdf
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Trim Indication |
I suspect knowing when the trim is at 0 in-flight is not very useful as you only
really care about trimming to level flight. I have the original Allen display
and it shows about 1 notch up for takeoff which is pretty close to neutral.
Marcus
On Sep 14, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Jae Chang wrote:
http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1315888107/0
I was playing with calibrating my elevator trim indicator on the Skyview system,
when i noticed something non-intuitive to me.
The calibration tool has you set full nose up 0V, full nose down 5V, and take off
position (not flying yet so not sure). However, there is no calibration for
neutral position, or where the trim tab trailing edge is even with the elevator
trailing edge which is at 3.2V. Thus, when my trim tab is at the neutral position,
the indicator is a notch or two higher than center.
I was just curious how other systems are calibrated. Is this a non-issue? I just
intuitively thought this would be useful since we can't directly see the trim
tab in flight.
We can see the elevator counteweights. Thus, when those are even with the HS, can
i assume the trim tab trailing edges must be even too?
Jae
40533
Hating paperwork way more than fiberglass work!
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| Subject: | Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors |
Big deal..... fill the motorhome!=0A=0A=0AFrom: Pascal <rv10flyer@verizon.n
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8 AM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors=0A
=0A=0AOnce I get my plane flying and =9Cbroken in=9D I=99
ll fly out to Pecan and we=99ll =0Aget the settings worked out. Sound
s like you=99re a guru! specially with those =0AGph. I just filled ON
E tank and it was $200.. ouchhhhhhhhhhhhhhh- reality is =0Asinking in. =0AP
ascal =0A=0AFrom: Don McDonald =0ASent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:31 P
M =0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com =0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Re: YIO-540 ai
rflow performance =0Ainjectors =0A Nope.... stock is .028...... my only adj
ustment was changing out the =0A.028 for a .0265 in the #4 cylinder.=C2-
What I can tell you is that when =0Ayou're doing the LOP test... do it on a
couple (several) of different days, with =0Adifferent wind directions, and
different temps, power settings, altitudes.... it =0Aall seems to matter..
. then just when you think you've got it, it'll change a =0Alittle on you.
=C2- Also, rather than trying to write down all the gph and temp =0Asetti
ngs, just take a digtal pic every 10th of a gallon. =0ADon McDonald =0AFlyi
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=0APM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Re: =0AYIO-540 airflow performance injectors
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Trim Indication |
Yes, trailing position is irrelevant. Also, trailing is not necessarily the
midpoint of the trim range, so no reason you should expect it to be 2.5v.
-Rob
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> I suspect knowing when the trim is at 0 in-flight is not very useful as you
> only really care about trimming to level flight. I have the original Allen
> display and it shows about 1 notch up for takeoff which is pretty close to
> neutral.
>
> Marcus
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Jae Chang wrote:
>
>
> http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1315888107/0
>
> I was playing with calibrating my elevator trim indicator on the Skyview
> system, when i noticed something non-intuitive to me.
>
> The calibration tool has you set full nose up 0V, full nose down 5V, and
> take off position (not flying yet so not sure). However, there is no
> calibration for neutral position, or where the trim tab trailing edge is
> even with the elevator trailing edge which is at 3.2V. Thus, when my trim
> tab is at the neutral position, the indicator is a notch or two higher than
> center.
>
> I was just curious how other systems are calibrated. Is this a non-issue? I
> just intuitively thought this would be useful since we can't directly see
> the trim tab in flight.
>
> We can see the elevator counteweights. Thus, when those are even with the
> HS, can i assume the trim tab trailing edges must be even too?
>
> Jae
> 40533
> Hating paperwork way more than fiberglass work!
>
>
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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The SB makes sense for some older models IF they used poor grade
sloshing compound. ProSeal PR1005-L and the Flamemaster equivalent have
been around for at least 30 years and do not have any of the issues that
other sealers do. In fact it has been specified and used in Mooney tanks
for more like 50 years without a problem. I'm still considering using it
in my Manila built tanks. So they should not have generically said
sloshing sealer, but identified which specific sealers cause the problem.
On 9/14/2011 10:31 AM, Rene Felker wrote:
>
> Makes me glad I did not get Sloshed during my aircraft build.
> Sometimes it is good to follow the plans.
>
> Will hit 200 hours on my plane on the next flight..seems like I just
> finished it.
>
> Rene' Felker
>
> N423CF
>
> 801-721-6080
>
> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Pascal
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:31 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Vans SB
>
> Service Bulletin 11-9-13 (all models)
> Posted on factory site today. Comply before further flight.
>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb11-9-13.pdf
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I sloshed my tanks on my experimental 8 years and 3000+ gallons of Ethan
ol laced fuel that has run through it..... I did do a very thorough prep
on the tank inner surfaces to get it to stick, ie, abraded the surface
with small sharp gravel and tumbled the tanks for about an hour, compl
etely flushed it multiple times with water and then MEK. This was even
before it had one drop of fuel in it. I used the new Randolph 912 alcoho
l proof sloshing compound and did two coats..... Absolutely NO sign of i
t delaminating...
Where people get in trouble is when they have run fuel in the tanks and
that gas has laid a deposit of varnish on the tanks inner surface.... Th
ey then slosh it to fix a leak and the compound doesn't stand a chance
of adhering properly.... Those horror stories are what keeps the sloshin
g compound topic alive. IMHO.
Ben...
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans SB
The SB makes sense for some older models IF they used poor grade
sloshing compound. ProSeal PR1005-L and the Flamemaster equivalent have
been around for at least 30 years and do not have any of the issues that
other sealers do. In fact it has been specified and used in Mooney tanks
for more like 50 years without a problem. I'm still considering using it
in my Manila built tanks. So they should not have generically said
sloshing sealer, but identified which specific sealers cause the problem
.
On 9/14/2011 10:31 AM, Rene Felker wrote:
>
> Makes me glad I did not get Sloshed during my aircraft build.
> Sometimes it is good to follow the plans.
>
> Will hit 200 hours on my plane on the next flight=85..seems like I jus
t
> finished it.
>
> Rene' Felker
>
> N423CF
>
> 801-721-6080
>
> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Pascal
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:31 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Vans SB
>
> Service Bulletin 11-9-13 (all models)
> Posted on factory site today. Comply before further flight.
>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb11-9-13.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors |
I recently flew back commercial from Atlanta with my family.
4 bags at $25.00 each
4 bags at $35.00 each
1 7 lb. Dog at $200
Tips, Taxi's etc...
Zero time on the hobbs.
While I feel your pain I prefer filling the tanks to flying commercial.
Robin
Do not archive
Sent from my iPad2.
On Sep 14, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Big deal..... fill the motorhome!
*From:* Pascal <rv10flyer@verizon.net>
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:48 AM
*Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors
Once I get my plane flying and =93broken in=94 I=92ll fly out to Pecan and
we=92ll
get the settings worked out. Sounds like you=92re a guru! specially with th
ose
Gph. I just filled ONE tank and it was $200.. ouchhhhhhhhhhhhhhh- reality i
s
sinking in.
Pascal
*From:* Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:31 PM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors
Nope.... stock is .028...... my only adjustment was changing out the .028
for a .0265 in the #4 cylinder. What I can tell you is that when you're
doing the LOP test... do it on a couple (several) of different days, with
different wind directions, and different temps, power settings,
altitudes.... it all seems to matter... then just when you think you've got
it, it'll change a little on you. Also, rather than trying to write down
all the gph and temp settings, just take a digtal pic every 10th of a
gallon.
Don McDonald
Flying this wonderful machine!
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*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:44 PM
*Subject:* RV10-List: Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors
Sorry, mine are about .023" not .028". I plan on balancing next year. They
start out small don't they.
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Trim Indication |
I was rather disappointed with the Skyview trim displays, so I use the VP200
display for the roll and elevator trim. I have neutral as the trim on the
elevator is level with the elevator. I'll figure out what neutral really is
when the plane flies. Having the initial neutral was important to me so I
know what "flush" is. I'll get the takeoff settings figured out after a few
takeoffs. No idea what it is now and I sure dont want too much either.
No idea about the voltage at each setting, only care what I see on the
display.
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: Jae Chang
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:14 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Elevator Trim Indication
http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1315888107/0
I was playing with calibrating my elevator trim indicator on the Skyview
system, when i noticed something non-intuitive to me.
The calibration tool has you set full nose up 0V, full nose down 5V, and
take off position (not flying yet so not sure). However, there is no
calibration for neutral position, or where the trim tab trailing edge is
even with the elevator trailing edge which is at 3.2V. Thus, when my
trim tab is at the neutral position, the indicator is a notch or two
higher than center.
I was just curious how other systems are calibrated. Is this a
non-issue? I just intuitively thought this would be useful since we
can't directly see the trim tab in flight.
We can see the elevator counteweights. Thus, when those are even with
the HS, can i assume the trim tab trailing edges must be even too?
Jae
40533
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Trim Indication |
ok, thanks for the replies. your replies echo what Dynon support said.
Thanks for confirming this for me!
Jae
40533
do not archive
On 9/14/2011 11:59 AM, Rob Kochman wrote:
> Yes, trailing position is irrelevant. Also, trailing is not
> necessarily the midpoint of the trim range, so no reason you should
> expect it to be 2.5v.
> -Rob
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net
> <mailto:coop85@verizon.net>> wrote:
>
> <mailto:coop85@verizon.net>>
>
> I suspect knowing when the trim is at 0 in-flight is not very
> useful as you only really care about trimming to level flight. I
> have the original Allen display and it shows about 1 notch up for
> takeoff which is pretty close to neutral.
>
> Marcus
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Jae Chang wrote:
>
> <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com <mailto:jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>>
>
> http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1315888107/0
>
> I was playing with calibrating my elevator trim indicator on the
> Skyview system, when i noticed something non-intuitive to me.
>
> The calibration tool has you set full nose up 0V, full nose down
> 5V, and take off position (not flying yet so not sure). However,
> there is no calibration for neutral position, or where the trim
> tab trailing edge is even with the elevator trailing edge which is
> at 3.2V. Thus, when my trim tab is at the neutral position, the
> indicator is a notch or two higher than center.
>
> I was just curious how other systems are calibrated. Is this a
> non-issue? I just intuitively thought this would be useful since
> we can't directly see the trim tab in flight.
>
> We can see the elevator counteweights. Thus, when those are even
> with the HS, can i assume the trim tab trailing edges must be even
> too?
>
> Jae
> 40533
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| Subject: | Elevator Trim Indication |
I had two exciting moments during my phase 1.....
1. On the first takeoff I set my trim to be even with the elevator (No Trim).
The take off was a little exciting.......I started the rotation, the plane took
off and then plane kept rotating. It took both hands to hold the nose down
while I adjusted the trim. I would recommend that on your first flight you put
in a little nose down trim.....better to under rotate than to over rotate.
2. Doing prolonged slips at altitude, be careful which wing is down and what the
fuel level is in the selected tank. Otherwise the fan that keeps the pilot
cool stops working. Leveled out, fuel pump on.....fan started working again....
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Elevator Trim Indication
I was rather disappointed with the Skyview trim displays, so I use the VP200
display for the roll and elevator trim. I have neutral as the trim on the
elevator is level with the elevator. I'll figure out what neutral really is
when the plane flies. Having the initial neutral was important to me so I
know what "flush" is. I'll get the takeoff settings figured out after a few
takeoffs. No idea what it is now and I sure dont want too much either.
No idea about the voltage at each setting, only care what I see on the
display.
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: Jae Chang
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:14 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Elevator Trim Indication
http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1315888107/0
I was playing with calibrating my elevator trim indicator on the Skyview
system, when i noticed something non-intuitive to me.
The calibration tool has you set full nose up 0V, full nose down 5V, and
take off position (not flying yet so not sure). However, there is no
calibration for neutral position, or where the trim tab trailing edge is
even with the elevator trailing edge which is at 3.2V. Thus, when my
trim tab is at the neutral position, the indicator is a notch or two
higher than center.
I was just curious how other systems are calibrated. Is this a
non-issue? I just intuitively thought this would be useful since we
can't directly see the trim tab in flight.
We can see the elevator counteweights. Thus, when those are even with
the HS, can i assume the trim tab trailing edges must be even too?
Jae
40533
Hating paperwork way more than fiberglass work!
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| Subject: | Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors |
Mystery solved. After a very nice email from Don at AirFlow Performance, it seems
I got my "P's" mixed up. I have a Precision, not Performance, fuel injection
system. And they use different nomenclature: The "one banded" restrictors from
Precision are .028" (while one band from Performance means .022").
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352334#352334
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| Subject: | Dash board edge trim |
I am finalizing the plane for weight and balance and making sure I have done
everything I want to do. I am wondering what folks have done to soften the
edge of the dash (the aft edge of the F-1071 FWD fuse top skin). I do not
want to do anything too fancy but simple and quick but nice looking. I
noticed the Van's RV-10 has automotive type fuel line split down the middle
and slipped over the edge, which is ok, I guess, but I would like a slight
step above that solution.
Thanks
Chris Lucas
#40072
N919AR
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| Subject: | Dash board edge trim |
This is what I used..can't remember how long..
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=GSF12
Rene'
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:42 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Dash board edge trim
I am finalizing the plane for weight and balance and making sure I have done
everything I want to do. I am wondering what folks have done to soften the
edge of the dash (the aft edge of the F-1071 FWD fuse top skin). I do not
want to do anything too fancy but simple and quick but nice looking. I
noticed the Van's RV-10 has automotive type fuel line split down the middle
and slipped over the edge, which is ok, I guess, but I would like a slight
step above that solution.
Thanks
Chris Lucas
#40072
N919AR
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| Subject: | Dash board edge trim |
Aircraft Door Seals
<http://www.aircraftdoorseals.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_24&products_id=1
23> will custom make a glareshield to your template. I had one in my
Cherokee and really liked it. It has a nice padded brow. I'm thinking
about doing the same in my RV-10. I think it looks nicer that the cloth
that Abby sells. But again, that's my opinion.
<javascript:;> Description: PA-28 Glareshield (Standard)
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:42 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Dash board edge trim
I am finalizing the plane for weight and balance and making sure I have done
everything I want to do. I am wondering what folks have done to soften the
edge of the dash (the aft edge of the F-1071 FWD fuse top skin). I do not
want to do anything too fancy but simple and quick but nice looking. I
noticed the Van's RV-10 has automotive type fuel line split down the middle
and slipped over the edge, which is ok, I guess, but I would like a slight
step above that solution.
Thanks
Chris Lucas
#40072
N919AR
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| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
Get with Abby from flightline interiors. She has a great glareshield cover a
nd edge.
Rick
RV-10 x 2
RV Central Las Vegas
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 14, 2011, at 7:18 PM, "Rene" <rene@felker.com> wrote:
> This is what I used.can=99t remember how long.
>
>
>
> http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=GSF12
>
>
>
> Rene'
>
> 801-721-6080
>
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:42 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Dash board edge trim
>
>
>
> I am finalizing the plane for weight and balance and making sure I have do
ne everything I want to do. I am wondering what folks have done to soften th
e edge of the dash (the aft edge of the F-1071 FWD fuse top skin). I do not w
ant to do anything too fancy but simple and quick but nice looking. I notice
d the Van's RV-10 has automotive type fuel line split down the middle and sl
ipped over the edge, which is ok, I guess, but I would like a slight step ab
ove that solution.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris Lucas
>
> #40072
>
> N919AR
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors |
And the "Performance" give substantially more control at adjusting LOP
operations. There are several other benefits not stated. PLUS Don and his
wife are small business owners striving hard to make it right. The
Precision guys are big business and many Certified Assessories.
John - 40600
On Sep 14, 2011 6:23 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
> Mystery solved. After a very nice email from Don at AirFlow Performance,
it seems I got my "P's" mixed up. I have a Precision, not Performance, fuel
injection system. And they use different nomenclature: The "one banded"
restrictors from Precision are .028" (while one band from Performance means
.022").
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352334#352334
>
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| Subject: | Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors |
Not sure I see the advantages. My RSA on my certified Lycoming will
easily run 70-80 LOP, and has stock nozzles.
On 9/14/2011 10:14 PM, John Cox wrote:
>
> And the "Performance" give substantially more control at adjusting LOP
> operations. There are several other benefits not stated. PLUS Don
> and his wife are small business owners striving hard to make it
> right. The Precision guys are big business and many Certified
> Assessories.
>
> John - 40600
>
> On Sep 14, 2011 6:23 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu
> <mailto:bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>> wrote:
> <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu <mailto:bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>>
> >
> > Mystery solved. After a very nice email from Don at AirFlow
> Performance, it seems I got my "P's" mixed up. I have a Precision, not
> Performance, fuel injection system. And they use different
> nomenclature: The "one banded" restrictors from Precision are .028"
> (while one band from Performance means .022").
> >
> > --------
> > Bob Turner
> > RV-10 QB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352334#352334
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| Subject: | Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors |
I don't think that's being completely straight forward. They may be a good s
mall company and great folks, but there is nothing about the system that mak
es it better at running LOP than the other...you can use the same injector i
nserts to tune either system and running LOP is routinely done by many with p
recision systems too. The product should be evaluated on its true merits or
differences....not made up ones.
Tim
On Sep 14, 2011, at 11:14 PM, John Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> wrote:
> And the "Performance" give substantially more control at adjusting LOP ope
rations. There are several other benefits not stated. PLUS Don and his wif
e are small business owners striving hard to make it right. The Precision g
uys are big business and many Certified Assessories.
>
> John - 40600
>
> On Sep 14, 2011 6:23 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Mystery solved. After a very nice email from Don at AirFlow Performance,
it seems I got my "P's" mixed up. I have a Precision, not Performance, fuel
injection system. And they use different nomenclature: The "one banded" res
trictors from Precision are .028" (while one band from Performance means .02
2").
> >
> > --------
> > Bob Turner
> > RV-10 QB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352334#352334
> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com
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