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1. 09:05 AM - WingX question (Michael Kraus)
2. 09:54 AM - Re: Should I pop on this IO540? (Jerald Folkerts)
3. 10:06 AM - Re: Dash board edge trim (johngoodman)
4. 10:23 AM - Re: Re: Dash board edge trim (Rob Kochman)
5. 12:02 PM - Re: Re: Dash board edge trim (Chris)
6. 12:06 PM - Re: Re: Dash board edge trim (Fred Williams, M.D.)
7. 12:31 PM - Re: Re: Dash board edge trim (David)
8. 03:36 PM - Re: Dash board edge trim (johngoodman)
9. 07:21 PM - Horrible Crash at the Reno Air Races (Jeff Carpenter)
10. 07:54 PM - Re: Horrible Crash at the Reno Air Races (Alan Mekler MD)
11. 08:25 PM - Re: Re: Dash board edge trim (David Leikam)
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On Foreflight, you can buy one subscription and it works For both the iPhone and
iPad.
Is it the same for WingX, or do you need 2 subscriptions? One for ipad and one
for iPhone?
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
My rebuild cost approx 6k from a local shop. Of course, it would depend on
condition. I would just put it on and run it. However, before they remove
it have them properly preserve it. Preservation kits are approx $200.
Jerry Folkerts
On Thursday, September 15, 2011, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, was offered an engine today. I will probably need one in 4-6 months.
250hp carbureted Aztec engine. 5 yrs and 200 hours since major, narrow deck.
No other information about who did the overhaul, etc. Seller wants 20K.
Selling because Aztec airframe is bent and worthless, so trying to get his
money back out of engines and avionics. I declined. Also was A1D5 version
which lacks fuel injection and better counterweights in the C4B5 or A4D5
>
> On 9/15/2011 3:20 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
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>> Snip >> I would start the project first and order the engine later in the
build. Things happen, people "need" to stop building, some even need to sell
off their projects. Engines will come up, the prices may as well but you
will have options.
>>
>> I don't necessarily think that is an excellent price and as such with all
the potential unknowns would have me following Pascal's suggestion and wait.
A friend purchased a similar "sounding" engine for $10k. He is now flying
and the engine was a good deal to get flying but it is making metal and it
can not come close to the power generated by my BPE engine. He comments
every time we take off in my -10.
>> See how quickly this engine showed up? The same thing will happen closer
to the time you will actually need an engine. I say wait.
>>
>> Robin
>>
>> Sent from my iPad2.
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>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:23 PM, "Pascal" <rv10flyer@verizon.net <mailto:
rv10flyer@verizon.net>> wrote:
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rv10flyer@verizon.net>>
>>>
>>> Same here. I felt that new was overkill, specially since I wanted the
old Narrow deck core. America's was first rate.
>>> Interestingly they had an engine with the same hours off a plane that
was being parted out. America's would not sell the engine to me unless they
first verified all was fine inside. All was close to new, but if it wasn't,
than we would know for sure. When it comes to engines unless you open it up
and see what's inside, you're guessing it's fine.. that was not a risk I was
willing to take. I suppose documents and scopes would work..but I am
"trusting" it's accurate.
>>> If you're A&P is reliable and can scope and do everything for you to
assure it's solid, you may be fine.
>>> People have left engines sitting for years, but they were building
already, you are planning to put off a 10k investment in a tail kit but are
willing to spend 15K on a engine you wont need for a while?
>>> I would start the project first and order the engine later in the build.
Things happen, people "need" to stop building, some even need to sell off
their projects. Engines will come up, the prices may as well but you will
have options.
>>> Best of success!
>>> Pascal
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Sohrab Kermanj
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:15 AM
>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Should I pop on this IO540?
>>>
flysrv10@gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> I bought a zero time engine with new cam and first run crank, new mags
and overhauled accessories (fuel pump, servo) completely new top end from
Americas Aircraft engine for less that twice that. No core was required. My
vote is to talk to AAE.
>>>
>>> Rob Kermanj
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Rick <ricksked@cox.net <mailto:
ricksked@cox.net>> wrote:
>>>
ricksked@cox.net>>
>>>>
>>>> It's on VAF for 17.9k
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:14 AM, "EdKranz" <ed.kranz@gmail.com <mailto:
ed.kranz@gmail.com>> wrote:
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ed.kranz@gmail.com>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday
season is over, and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor for a few
more years... but...
>>>>>
>>>>> I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going to
be building. He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's currently on
another plane that they are going to be downsizing to a 200HP motor.
>>>>>
>>>>> It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's going
to sell it with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or
Aerosports engine, but if the price is right, and I can be CONFIDENT in the
motor, I might consider this route.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about
1/3 the new cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm guessing
around $15,000.
>>>>>
>>>>> What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a
D4A5? Would I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368>
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| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
I got some rubber edge trim from McMaster-Carr. Here is a link:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#trim-molding/=e37ooh
As far as the covering on the glareshield, I painted the metal flat black. So far
it has held up great. For the avionics vent fans, I went with some 80mm computer
fans with a flush grill cover, that double as defoggers.
John
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#40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352468#352468
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| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
Same here--flat black paint looks great. I used the Cleveland ending. I
did not add a vent/defrost fan, which is my biggest regret thus far. It's
way too hot behind the panel.
-Rob
80 hours
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:03 AM, johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net>wrote:
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> I got some rubber edge trim from McMaster-Carr. Here is a link:
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#trim-molding/=e37ooh
>
> As far as the covering on the glareshield, I painted the metal flat black.
> So far it has held up great. For the avionics vent fans, I went with some
> 80mm computer fans with a flush grill cover, that double as defoggers.
>
> John
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> #40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352468#352468
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>
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
John,
Sounds good, I too have flat black paint and 2 fans, do you know what exact Mcmaster
part number you got, the link just takes me to the many choices.
Thanks
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
Sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:03:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dash board edge trim
I got some rubber edge trim from McMaster-Carr. Here is a link:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#trim-molding/=e37ooh
As far as the covering on the glareshield, I painted the metal flat black. So far
it has held up great. For the avionics vent fans, I went with some 80mm computer
fans with a flush grill cover, that double as defoggers.
John
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#40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352468#352468
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| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
I used the flat black paint and the edge cover and it has worked well
for me.
Make sure you put in _black_ fan grill covers! Don't use the shiny ones
or you will have the reflection in your windshield. Don't ask me how I
know.......
Dr Fred.
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| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
I too painted the panel top flat back and could not be happier with
it. I used some trim from an auto parts store that looks pretty much
like the far right choice in the top row of John's link. I also used
the same trim for my wing-to-fuselage gap and it has worked great,
David Maib
40559 Flying
just turned over 400 hours.
On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Chris wrote:
>
> John,
> Sounds good, I too have flat black paint and 2 fans, do you know
> what exact Mcmaster part number you got, the link just takes me to
> the many choices.
> Thanks
> Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:03:58 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dash board edge trim
>
> <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
>
> I got some rubber edge trim from McMaster-Carr. Here is a link:
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#trim-molding/=e37ooh
>
> As far as the covering on the glareshield, I painted the metal flat
> black. So far it has held up great. For the avionics vent fans, I
> went with some 80mm computer fans with a flush grill cover, that
> double as defoggers.
>
> John
>
> --------
> #40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352468#352468
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| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
Chris,
The one I ordered was Style 6, 8507K15 - 6 feet. But, a lot of the others will
fit as well. Since you are already there, take a look at 1120A411. That's the
stuff I used for the door edge trim - I love it.
John
toaster73(at)embarqmail.c wrote:
> John,
> Sounds good, I too have flat black paint and 2 fans, do you know what exact Mcmaster
part number you got, the link just takes me to the many choices.
> Thanks
> Chris
> ---
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#40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352488#352488
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| Subject: | Horrible Crash at the Reno Air Races |
Update: Three confirmed dead in air races crash; blood donations
sought | Reno Gazette-Journal | rgj.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Horrible Crash at the Reno Air Races |
We were there. It was horrible.
Alan
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 16, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com> wrote:
> Update: Three confirmed dead in air races crash; blood donations sought | R
eno Gazette-Journal | rgj.com
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> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
I used black spray on truck bed liner for my dash. Very tough and has a nice textured
finish.
Dave Leikam
On Sep 16, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Chris wrote:
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> John,
> Sounds good, I too have flat black paint and 2 fans, do you know what exact Mcmaster
part number you got, the link just takes me to the many choices.
> Thanks
> Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:03:58 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dash board edge trim
>
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> I got some rubber edge trim from McMaster-Carr. Here is a link:
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#trim-molding/=e37ooh
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> As far as the covering on the glareshield, I painted the metal flat black. So
far it has held up great. For the avionics vent fans, I went with some 80mm computer
fans with a flush grill cover, that double as defoggers.
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> John
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> #40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
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