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1. 04:37 AM - Re: WingX question (Ronald Simonton)
2. 06:13 AM - Re: WingX question (Michael Kraus)
3. 06:31 AM - Re: WingX question (Tim Olson)
4. 07:17 AM - Re: WingX question (Albert Gardner)
5. 11:15 AM - Re: Horrible Crash at the Reno Air Races (AirMike)
6. 11:42 AM - Elevator Rig (Chris)
7. 04:29 PM - Re: Re: Horrible Crash at the Reno Air Races (John Cox)
8. 05:28 PM - Re: Horrible Crash at the Reno Air Races (Jeffery J. Morgan)
9. 10:01 PM - Re: Elevator Rig (Bob Turner)
10. 10:20 PM - Re: Re: Elevator Rig (Bill Watson)
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| Subject: | Re: WingX question |
I have both WingX and Foreflight ----- WingX only works on my iPad ---
Foreflight works on iPad and iPhone ------ overall I prefer WingX, but wish
it would transfer to my iPhone.
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| Subject: | Re: WingX question |
<<WingX only works on my iPad --- Foreflight works on iPad and iPhone>>
So that's the deal breaker for me. Foreflight works on both. I use it in m
y iPhone 90% and iPad 10% (probably because I always carry the iPhone). I d
on't want to drop another $100 if I can't use it on both. I'll stick with m
y Foreflight!!
-Mike Kraus
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 17, 2011, at 7:33 AM, "Ronald Simonton" <simie1@knology.net> wrote:
> I have both WingX and Foreflight ----- WingX only works on my iPad --- For
eflight works on iPad and iPhone ------ overall I prefer WingX, but wish it w
ould transfer to my iPhone.
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| Subject: | Re: WingX question |
Well, wingX *is* on both my iPhone and ipad, but it does mostly suck on the i
Phone. I've been shocked that they don't focus any effort on it.
I still stand by my earlier assessment that WingX is better in flight (on ip
ad) than foreflight, but foreflight is better pre-flight by far.
For those flying lots of IFR, wingX with georeferenced charts add-on is grea
t. Then still keep a NON-Georef subscription to foreflight and you get all y
ou need to do it all.
If you want to save money then drop the georeferencing.
If you don't fly IFR I'd skip ALL georeferencing and maybe just do forefligh
t. The biggest benefits of wingX become more useful when flying IFR and man
ipulating approach plates and charts, and the georef taxi diagrams.
I had to laugh when seeing the 3D garmin 796....what a joke. Like seeing a 3
D airplane in the middle of the screen will do anything for you. They call i
t ipad killer but that product is a real joke at over 2000$. You coould buy
an ipad AND wingX and foreflight AND data subscriptions for many years for t
hat price. And it weighs much more and is thicker and smaller and less usef
ul for other things you may want, and still has less battery life. Foreflig
hts last announcement email says that they plan XM weather in their next rel
ease or version....soon. And you can already get ADS-B on some software. I
t's still evolving. A 796 is likely to stay as-is until the 896 comes out.
I used to love garmin handhelds, but today it seems a bit like the days of m
y initial GPS systems....when garmins non-aviation boxes were limited to 90k
ts to force you to pay more for aviation models.
Their glory days of the 396/496 are now behind them and they will have to pl
ay catch-up better than they are....even their phone apps are released with l
ess feature for more money.
Tim
On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:33 AM, "Ronald Simonton" <simie1@knology.net> wrote:
> I have both WingX and Foreflight ----- WingX only works on my iPad --- For
eflight works on iPad and iPhone ------ overall I prefer WingX, but wish it w
ould transfer to my iPhone.
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I first used an ipad on my 5 week jaunt around the country and learned
to love it. Takes some getting used to and I really looking to their
adding weather. I have an 496 and will probably keep it just for that
reason until they do and maybe even after for backup. Haven=99t
used WingX, I=99m VFR only but Foreflight is great. I prefer the
airport info from FlightguideEFB but Foreflight is adequate. I miss
having the reverse side of TAC charts though. That=99s the side
that has the VFR routes through class B. Fuel prices are nice to have
but you=99d better call to verify. Otherwise it seems they just
raised them yesterday. Haven=99t found a great way to mount the
ipad yet.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma AZ
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: WingX question
Well, wingX *is* on both my iPhone and ipad, but it does mostly suck on
the iPhone. I've been shocked that they don't focus any effort on it.
I still stand by my earlier assessment that WingX is better in flight
(on ipad) than foreflight, but foreflight is better pre-flight by far.
For those flying lots of IFR, wingX with georeferenced charts add-on is
great. Then still keep a NON-Georef subscription to foreflight and you
get all you need to do it all.
If you want to save money then drop the georeferencing.
If you don't fly IFR I'd skip ALL georeferencing and maybe just do
foreflight. The biggest benefits of wingX become more useful when
flying IFR and manipulating approach plates and charts, and the georef
taxi diagrams.
I had to laugh when seeing the 3D garmin 796....what a joke. Like
seeing a 3D airplane in the middle of the screen will do anything for
you. They call it ipad killer but that product is a real joke at over
2000$. You coould buy an ipad AND wingX and foreflight AND data
subscriptions for many years for that price. And it weighs much more
and is thicker and smaller and less useful for other things you may
want, and still has less battery life. Foreflights last announcement
email says that they plan XM weather in their next release or
version....soon. And you can already get ADS-B on some software. It's
still evolving. A 796 is likely to stay as-is until the 896 comes out.
I used to love garmin handhelds, but today it seems a bit like the days
of my initial GPS systems....when garmins non-aviation boxes were
limited to 90kts to force you to pay more for aviation models.
Their glory days of the 396/496 are now behind them and they will have
to play catch-up better than they are....even their phone apps are
released with less feature for more money.
Tim
On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:33 AM, "Ronald Simonton" <simie1@knology.net>
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I have both WingX and Foreflight ----- WingX only works on my iPad ---
Foreflight works on iPad and iPhone ------ overall I prefer WingX, but
wish it would transfer to my iPhone.
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| Subject: | Re: Horrible Crash at the Reno Air Races |
My wife and I volunteer every year for line security at the Reno Air Races. Yesterday
was a truly tragic day at the races and could spell the end of the event
for all times. We had just finished our shift at a remote entry gate, and had
been touring the venue on the East end of the field. We were sitting in the
cockpit of a C17 military aircraft when we looked to the west end of the field
and saw the crash of the P51.
It was truly a horrible sight to see and we were stunned at the horror of the crash,
not realizing at the time the sheer magnitude of the crash and the number
of casualties. As directed we left the field immediately and went home All
of our friends and fellow volunteers with EAA 1073 are ok also. I do not see how
these races can continue. they have been canceled for the rest of this weekend.
Who will sell RARA the insurance for such an event next year?
The crash occurred about mid field, just outside the box seats on the front row.
The crash debris was propelled to the north - away from the crowd. It now seems
clear that it was caused by failure of the trim tab (See pic at KOLOTV.com).
As tragic as the crash was, if it were only slightly to the south, the casualties
would have increased exponentially. All in all a sad day for RARA, Reno
and all of the aviation community.
--------
See you OSH '12
Q/B - flying 2 yrs.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352524#352524
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Thanks for the replies on the dash trim piece!! now on to the next question
I have... I have the elevator rigged with the jig called out on page 39-10
figure 1. This results in the inside AN3-10 bolt on the bottom of the
WD-1011L/R stick base weldment hitting the 1033-L/R control column mount at
the full aft stick and full left or right roll. Archives seem to point
toward discounting the jig and I guess the fix is to shorten the F-1089
and/or F-1090 to bring the WD-1011-L/R lower bolts aft and away from the
1033 while still maintaining the desired full up elevator deflection and
contact to elevator stops. Doing this would basically ignore the jig
setting, and thats ok?? I put the head of the bolts in opposite what the
plans show and still have contact.
Thanks for any input.
-Chris
#40072
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| Subject: | Re: Horrible Crash at the Reno Air Races |
I had several friends in the box seats. They have not checked in and Reno
hospitals are only talking to direct family members. PRAYERS out to
everyone connected.
Spent the morning giving a pint to the bank. Thinking of flying in to give
it direct to RNO.
John
On Sep 17, 2011 11:18 AM, "AirMike" <Mikeabel@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> My wife and I volunteer every year for line security at the Reno Air
Races. Yesterday was a truly tragic day at the races and could spell the end
of the event for all times. We had just finished our shift at a remote entry
gate, and had been touring the venue on the East end of the field. We were
sitting in the cockpit of a C17 military aircraft when we looked to the west
end of the field and saw the crash of the P51.
> It was truly a horrible sight to see and we were stunned at the horror of
the crash, not realizing at the time the sheer magnitude of the crash and
the number of casualties. As directed we left the field immediately and went
home All of our friends and fellow volunteers with EAA 1073 are ok also. I
do not see how these races can continue. they have been canceled for the
rest of this weekend. Who will sell RARA the insurance for such an event
next year?
>
> The crash occurred about mid field, just outside the box seats on the
front row. The crash debris was propelled to the north - away from the
crowd. It now seems clear that it was caused by failure of the trim tab (See
pic at KOLOTV.com). As tragic as the crash was, if it were only slightly to
the south, the casualties would have increased exponentially. All in all a
sad day for RARA, Reno and all of the aviation community.
>
> --------
> See you OSH '12
> Q/B - flying 2 yrs.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352524#352524
>
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| Subject: | Horrible Crash at the Reno Air Races |
Another crash in West Virginia today too. Bad weekend for airshows!
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/17/plane-crashes-at-air-show-in-west-v
irginia/
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Mekler
MD
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Horrible Crash at the Reno Air Races
We were there. It was horrible.
Alan
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 16, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
wrote:
Update: Three confirmed dead in air races crash; blood donations
sought | Reno Gazette-Journal |
<http://www.rgj.com/article/20110916/EVENTS05/110916036/P51-Mustang-cras
hes-Reno-Air-Races-multiple-injuries-involved?odyssey=tab> rgj.com
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Rig |
I recall having the same issue; however, mine was fixed by reversing the direction
of the bolts, which you say you have already done.
You certainly do not want them catching, you need to fine tune as needed to avoid
that. Of course, you may have trouble at the other end, too, with the stick
hitting the instrument panel. Depends on what stick grip you use. I was able
(but not with a lot of margin) find a setting that avoided both problems.
good luck.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352562#352562
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Rig |
Re the stick hitting the panel. Can be dependent on panel choice but
seems like even the standard panel needs to have the stick modified a
bit. I bent mine to reduce it's height. Others have cut and welded to
shorten it and move it back a bit from the panel.
Bill
On 9/18/2011 12:57 AM, Bob Turner wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Turner"<bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
>
> I recall having the same issue; however, mine was fixed by reversing the direction
of the bolts, which you say you have already done.
>
> You certainly do not want them catching, you need to fine tune as needed to avoid
that. Of course, you may have trouble at the other end, too, with the stick
hitting the instrument panel. Depends on what stick grip you use. I was able
(but not with a lot of margin) find a setting that avoided both problems.
>
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