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1. 05:13 AM - Need some measurements (Carl Froehlich)
2. 06:05 AM - Re: Trip to Phoenix (David McNeill)
3. 06:54 AM - Re: Trip to Phoenix (Kelly McMullen)
4. 08:01 AM - Re: Trip to Phoenix (John Ackerman)
5. 12:23 PM - Re: Trip to Phoenix (Rene Felker)
6. 05:56 PM - Re: Trip to Phoenix (Kelly McMullen)
7. 08:21 PM - Re: Trip to Phoenix (Bruce Johnson)
8. 09:40 PM - Re: Trip to Phoenix (Jim Beyer)
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| Subject: | Need some measurements |
Fighting an exhaust system fit up problem.
Need two measurements:
- On the standard Van's cowl, the width of the bottom cowl air
exhaust opening
- On the standard Vetterman's exhaust system, the distance between
the outside edge of the two heat muffs. In other words, looking for the
width of the exhaust system in the lower portion of the cowl.
Thanks,
Carl
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to Phoenix |
I will call later today. Inflight now
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 18, 2011, at 22:21, "Rene" <rene@felker.com> wrote:
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> I might have to fly down to Phoenix this week. Looks like Deer Valley or
> Scottsdale are the closest.....Deer Valley looks better from a cost
> perspective. Any opinions from the locals or other who have been down
> there.
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> I will be coming from Utah.
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> Rene'
> 801-721-6080
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to Phoenix |
Closest to your ground destination or shortest flight? Falcon or
Chandler have significantly cheaper fuel prices. Most downtown Phoenix
destinations are ~30 min drive from any of the area GA airports. They
all have nearby freeway access for quick trip into town at other than
rush hour.
DVT is very busy with Chinese flight students. SDL is very busy with
corporate jets. Deems is based at DVT and can give detailed current info
there. There are a couple flying -10s at FFZ and at least one at CHD as
well as several projects in various stages. The main thing to keep in
mind for Phoenix area is that the Tracon generally does not work GA
traffic for anything but the VFR transition cooridor over PHX, so you
have to plan your descent to be underneath the Class B. (ie less
friendly than SLC approach).
On 9/18/2011 8:21 PM, Rene wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene"<rene@felker.com>
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> I might have to fly down to Phoenix this week. Looks like Deer Valley or
> Scottsdale are the closest.....Deer Valley looks better from a cost
> perspective. Any opinions from the locals or other who have been down
> there.
>
> I will be coming from Utah.
>
> Rene'
> 801-721-6080
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to Phoenix |
I'll second all that stuff that Kelly wrote. DVT has a reputation for interminable
taxi times. I haven't been to FFZ lately, but it used to be a great place
to visit. I hear that it is busier now, too.
If you get anywhere near the Phoenix class B, be exceedingly careful. Phoenix tracon
is MUCH less GA friendly than the other tracons in the western US. They
will commonly give vectors into the B without corresponding clearance. If that
happens, it's the pilot who takes the punishment, and the likelihood that you
will be violated if you bust the B is high. Watch out. Be especially careful
on takeoff from FFZ to the SW.
The way I like to handle it is to use flight following and get a B clearance if
Phoenix tracon will issue one. Sometimes they will, sometimes they won't, and
it's not necessarily related to the amount of traffic you hear on whatever frequency
you're on.
Be aware of the Luke AFB SATR airspace west of Phoenix. Special rules apply, see:
http://www.luke.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-081107-056.pdf
You must talk to Luke RAPCON. Lots of F16s there.
On Sep 19, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
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> Closest to your ground destination or shortest flight? Falcon or Chandler have
significantly cheaper fuel prices. Most downtown Phoenix destinations are ~30
min drive from any of the area GA airports. They all have nearby freeway access
for quick trip into town at other than rush hour.
> DVT is very busy with Chinese flight students. SDL is very busy with corporate
jets. Deems is based at DVT and can give detailed current info there. There
are a couple flying -10s at FFZ and at least one at CHD as well as several projects
in various stages. The main thing to keep in mind for Phoenix area is that
the Tracon generally does not work GA traffic for anything but the VFR transition
cooridor over PHX, so you have to plan your descent to be underneath the
Class B. (ie less friendly than SLC approach).
>
> On 9/18/2011 8:21 PM, Rene wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene"<rene@felker.com>
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>> I might have to fly down to Phoenix this week. Looks like Deer Valley or
>> Scottsdale are the closest.....Deer Valley looks better from a cost
>> perspective. Any opinions from the locals or other who have been down
>> there.
>>
>> I will be coming from Utah.
>>
>> Rene'
>> 801-721-6080
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I think we lost our connection again. Thanks for the info. I think I will
try Falcon. Let you know how it goes.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trip to Phoenix
I will call later today. Inflight now
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 18, 2011, at 22:21, "Rene" <rene@felker.com> wrote:
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> I might have to fly down to Phoenix this week. Looks like Deer Valley or
> Scottsdale are the closest.....Deer Valley looks better from a cost
> perspective. Any opinions from the locals or other who have been down
> there.
>
> I will be coming from Utah.
>
> Rene'
> 801-721-6080
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to Phoenix |
Just as bad as the taxi delays...they will land you on the north runway,
often making you turn off the runway to the north, then make 5 frequency
changes between ground and tower freqs to get to the terminal on the
south side. (ground to taxi to crossing taxiway, north tower to cross
north runway, ground to taxi between runways, south tower to cross south
runway, ground to cross parallel taxiway to ramp)
On 9/19/2011 7:57 AM, John Ackerman wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: John Ackerman<johnag5b@cableone.net>
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> I'll second all that stuff that Kelly wrote. DVT has a reputation for interminable
taxi times. I haven't been to FFZ lately, but it used to be a great place
to visit. I hear that it is busier now, too.
>
> enerous support!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to Phoenix |
DVT isn't is bad as all that, they do get busy with the flight training, bu
t FFZ has that-also. Class B starts about 20 miles N of DVT and it comes
down gradually like you will be doing. Gas is not cheap and is about .50 ce
nts cheaper at Chandler, haven't bought any recently at FFZ. Enjoy your fli
ght--=0A=0A=0AFrom: Rene <rene@felker.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.co
m=0ASent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 8:21 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Trip to
=0AI might have to fly down to Phoenix this week.- Looks like Deer Valley
or=0AScottsdale are the closest.....Deer Valley looks better from a cost
=0Aperspective.- Any opinions from the locals or other who have been down
=0Athere.- =0A=0AI will be coming from Utah.=0A=0ARene'=0A801-721-6080=0A
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