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1. 02:24 AM - antenna locations (Rob Kermanj)
2. 04:24 AM - Re: Tire in Atlanta? (johngoodman)
3. 04:40 AM - Re: antenna locations (johngoodman)
4. 05:03 AM - Re: antenna locations (Linn Walters)
5. 05:52 AM - Re: antenna locations (Kelly McMullen)
6. 05:57 AM - Re: Re: antenna locations (Rob Kermanj)
7. 06:02 AM - Re: antenna locations (Rob Kermanj)
8. 06:03 AM - Re: antenna locations (Rob Kermanj)
9. 06:13 AM - Re: antenna locations (Carl Froehlich)
10. 06:49 AM - Re: antenna locations (Dave Saylor)
11. 07:30 AM - Re: antenna locations (Rob Kermanj)
12. 07:56 AM - Re: antenna locations (Dave Saylor)
13. 10:30 AM - Re: antenna locations (Rob Kermanj)
14. 10:53 AM - Re: antenna locations (Linn Walters)
15. 12:50 PM - Re: Re: Tire in Atlanta? (Jesse Saint)
16. 01:38 PM - Re: Tire Advice? (Jim Combs)
17. 01:45 PM - Re: Tire Advice? (Kelly McMullen)
18. 01:45 PM - G3X Component Locations (nukeflyboy)
19. 02:13 PM - Re: G3X Component Locations (Stein Bruch)
20. 03:19 PM - Re: Tire Advice? (Pascal)
21. 07:22 PM - FW: Fly RV-10 (DLM)
22. 08:51 PM - Re: FW: Fly RV-10 (Tim Olson)
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| Subject: | antenna locations |
I am installing Navwox UAT (ADSB) and one of the requirements for the transponder
antenna placement is 5' from other antennas. This leaves the area under the
belly aft of the baggage compartment my most logical choice. I am planning
to place the antenna between my Marker Beacon (boat antenna) located somewhere
near the battery and the VOR (whisker) antenna under the horizontal stab.
I have to compromise and place the antenna closer to MB antenna. Anyone has any
facts regarding how close I can come to MB antenna? How about if I line up
the new antenna exactly on the MB antenna's long axis. It seems the sides of
the MB antenna are the reception areas.
Is the distance between antennas measured from tip of the or their bases.
Thank you.
Rob Kermanj
Do Not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Tire in Atlanta? |
Jesse,
I live 4 miles from Aircraft Spruce in Peachtree City. They are open on Saturday
until 1600. Give me a call at 7704879648 when you wake up Saturday morning.
John Goodman
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#40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
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| Subject: | Re: antenna locations |
Rob,
Have you considered moving the Marker Beacon antenna? I imagine it can go almost
anywhere.
John
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| Subject: | Re: antenna locations |
I'd talk to NavWorks and ask 'why'. The separation distance usually
applies to antennas that transmit and/or receive, and 2' is a common
distance. The separation keeps the transmitting antenna from swamping
receiver antennas and/or damaging the 'delicate' amplifiers made to pick
up small signals. Receiver front ends are now far more capable of
dealing with large signals than older equipment. It's called progress,
which comes slowl
I think 5' is unusually large, but I'm not writing the specs that the
FAA requires for the TSO, if that's where the parameter comes from. I
suspect that somewhere, someone figured that if 2' is good, 5' is
better. It also could be Navworks being terribly conservative so as to
head off installation problems down the road. Only NavWorks can answer
that, and getting to talk to someone that really has the answer can be
problematic.
Having said all that and trying to answer one of your questions .....
don't be completely anal about the distance from different 'parts' of
the antenna. If it's close to 5' separation that should be OK. If you
have the time to set up the equipment and power it up on the bench, you
can move the antennas around and see just what the effect is. Much
easier than re-locating an antenna when you're in phase 1 (or 2, 3, 4
....... ) testing.
Linn
On 9/24/2011 5:20 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rob Kermanj<flysrv10@gmail.com>
>
> I am installing Navwox UAT (ADSB) and one of the requirements for the transponder
antenna placement is 5' from other antennas. This leaves the area under
the belly aft of the baggage compartment my most logical choice. I am planning
to place the antenna between my Marker Beacon (boat antenna) located somewhere
near the battery and the VOR (whisker) antenna under the horizontal stab.
>
> I have to compromise and place the antenna closer to MB antenna. Anyone has
any facts regarding how close I can come to MB antenna? How about if I line up
the new antenna exactly on the MB antenna's long axis. It seems the sides of
the MB antenna are the reception areas.
>
> Is the distance between antennas measured from tip of the or their bases.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Rob Kermanj
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> Do Not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: antenna locations |
The MB antenna location is the least critical, and MB is probably less
useful than an ADF these days, with the FAA decommissioning almost all
of them other than inner markers for Cat II & III.
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I am installing Navwox UAT (ADSB) and one of the requirements for the transponder
antenna placement is 5' from other antennas. This leaves the area under the
belly aft of the baggage compartment my most logical choice. I am planning
to place the antenna between my Marker Beacon (boat antenna) located somewhere
near the battery and the VOR (whisker) antenna under the horizontal stab.
>
> I have to compromise and place the antenna closer to MB antenna. Anyone has any
facts regarding how close I can come to MB antenna? How about if I line up
the new antenna exactly on the MB antenna's long axis. It seems the sides of the
MB antenna are the reception areas.
>
> Is the distance between antennas measured from tip of the or their bases.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Rob Kermanj
>
> Do Not archive.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: antenna locations |
I have not. If I do, it leave holes in the fuselage. I would rather work around
it if it possible.
Rob.
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On Sep 24, 2011, at 7:38 AM, johngoodman wrote:
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> Rob,
> Have you considered moving the Marker Beacon antenna? I imagine it can go almost
anywhere.
> John
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> #40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
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| Subject: | Re: antenna locations |
Not sure if Navwox is requiring it. Below is the text from Navworx
installation manual:
"The UAT Antenna MUST be installed no less than 5 feet from any
Transponder /TCAS/TAS or DME antenna. Failure to adhere to this critical
installation note will result in failure of the ADS600-B and void your
warranty. "
It looks like MB and VOR antennas are Except (?). 2' is good then?
Rob
do not archive
On Sep 24, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Linn Walters wrote:
<pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>
> I'd talk to NavWorks and ask 'why'. The separation distance usually
applies to antennas that transmit and/or receive, and 2' is a common
distance. The separation keeps the transmitting antenna from swamping
receiver antennas and/or damaging the 'delicate' amplifiers made to pick
up small signals. Receiver front ends are now far more capable of
dealing with large signals than older equipment. It's called progress,
which comes slowl
>
> I think 5' is unusually large, but I'm not writing the specs that the
FAA requires for the TSO, if that's where the parameter comes from. I
suspect that somewhere, someone figured that if 2' is good, 5' is
better. It also could be Navworks being terribly conservative so as to
head off installation problems down the road. Only NavWorks can answer
that, and getting to talk to someone that really has the answer can be
problematic.
>
> Having said all that and trying to answer one of your questions .....
don't be completely anal about the distance from different 'parts' of
the antenna. If it's close to 5' separation that should be OK. If you
have the time to set up the equipment and power it up on the bench, you
can move the antennas around and see just what the effect is. Much
easier than re-locating an antenna when you're in phase 1 (or 2, 3, 4
....... ) testing.
> Linn
>
> On 9/24/2011 5:20 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rob Kermanj<flysrv10@gmail.com>
>>
>> I am installing Navwox UAT (ADSB) and one of the requirements for the
transponder antenna placement is 5' from other antennas. This leaves
the area under the belly aft of the baggage compartment my most logical
choice. I am planning to place the antenna between my Marker Beacon
(boat antenna) located somewhere near the battery and the VOR (whisker)
antenna under the horizontal stab.
>>
>> I have to compromise and place the antenna closer to MB antenna.
Anyone has any facts regarding how close I can come to MB antenna? How
about if I line up the new antenna exactly on the MB antenna's long
axis. It seems the sides of the MB antenna are the reception areas.
>>
>> Is the distance between antennas measured from tip of the or their
bases.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Rob Kermanj
>>
>> Do Not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: antenna locations |
I agree. Time were different when I installed it.
Rob.
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On Sep 24, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
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> The MB antenna location is the least critical, and MB is probably less
> useful than an ADF these days, with the FAA decommissioning almost all
> of them other than inner markers for Cat II & III.
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am installing Navwox UAT (ADSB) and one of the requirements for the transponder
antenna placement is 5' from other antennas. This leaves the area under
the belly aft of the baggage compartment my most logical choice. I am planning
to place the antenna between my Marker Beacon (boat antenna) located somewhere
near the battery and the VOR (whisker) antenna under the horizontal stab.
>>
>> I have to compromise and place the antenna closer to MB antenna. Anyone has
any facts regarding how close I can come to MB antenna? How about if I line
up the new antenna exactly on the MB antenna's long axis. It seems the sides
of the MB antenna are the reception areas.
>>
>> Is the distance between antennas measured from tip of the or their bases.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Rob Kermanj
>>
>> Do Not archive.
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| Subject: | antenna locations |
Marker Beacon systems are unique in how they work. They have a lot of
transmit power (relative to what they do) and the radiation pattern is
straight up. As such, Marker Beacon antennas need not be elaborate affairs
as the best on in the world will hear the beacon a only short distance
further than a random piece of wire connected to the back of the receiver
(and for what you need a marker for, you don't want it to go off too far
away). For my 8A, I have a piece of wire 37" long in the bottom of the
cowl connected to a BNC bulkhead connector. It works quite well. For the
10, I have the same arrangement but in one wing tip. For those engineers
out there, this setup is a 1/4 wavelength antenna, feed at the bottom (the
bulkhead BNC connector) and working against ground (the firewall in the 8A
and the end wing rib in the 10).
As I have mentioned on other posts, I built both the 8A and the 10 VOR
antennas which are mounted in the wingtip (perhaps a couple of dollars for
hardware and aluminum out of the scrap box). I will concede that this
arrangement does not have the range of a perfect HS mounted antenna, but I
can say by experience that this antenna receives both VOR and ILS signals at
ranges exceeding any practical value.
Carl
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn Walters
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: antenna locations
I'd talk to NavWorks and ask 'why'. The separation distance usually
applies to antennas that transmit and/or receive, and 2' is a common
distance. The separation keeps the transmitting antenna from swamping
receiver antennas and/or damaging the 'delicate' amplifiers made to pick
up small signals. Receiver front ends are now far more capable of
dealing with large signals than older equipment. It's called progress,
which comes slowl
I think 5' is unusually large, but I'm not writing the specs that the
FAA requires for the TSO, if that's where the parameter comes from. I
suspect that somewhere, someone figured that if 2' is good, 5' is
better. It also could be Navworks being terribly conservative so as to
head off installation problems down the road. Only NavWorks can answer
that, and getting to talk to someone that really has the answer can be
problematic.
Having said all that and trying to answer one of your questions .....
don't be completely anal about the distance from different 'parts' of
the antenna. If it's close to 5' separation that should be OK. If you
have the time to set up the equipment and power it up on the bench, you
can move the antennas around and see just what the effect is. Much
easier than re-locating an antenna when you're in phase 1 (or 2, 3, 4
....... ) testing.
Linn
On 9/24/2011 5:20 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rob Kermanj<flysrv10@gmail.com>
>
> I am installing Navwox UAT (ADSB) and one of the requirements for the
transponder antenna placement is 5' from other antennas. This leaves the
area under the belly aft of the baggage compartment my most logical choice.
I am planning to place the antenna between my Marker Beacon (boat antenna)
located somewhere near the battery and the VOR (whisker) antenna under the
horizontal stab.
>
> I have to compromise and place the antenna closer to MB antenna. Anyone
has any facts regarding how close I can come to MB antenna? How about if I
line up the new antenna exactly on the MB antenna's long axis. It seems the
sides of the MB antenna are the reception areas.
>
> Is the distance between antennas measured from tip of the or their bases.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Rob Kermanj
>
> Do Not archive.
>
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| Subject: | Re: antenna locations |
Rob,
The main concern is to keep the NavWorx antenna far from the the other
antennas transmitting on similar frequencies: transponder, TCAS, etc.
Since the marker doesn't transmit, I wouldn't worry too much about
proximity. I put my UAT under the baggage floor and it works just fine. I
used the Delta Pop antenna that NavWorx recommended.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am installing Navwox UAT (ADSB) and one of the requirements for the
> transponder antenna placement is 5' from other antennas. This leaves the
> area under the belly aft of the baggage compartment my most logical choice.
> I am planning to place the antenna between my Marker Beacon (boat antenna)
> located somewhere near the battery and the VOR (whisker) antenna under the
> horizontal stab.
>
> I have to compromise and place the antenna closer to MB antenna. Anyone
> has any facts regarding how close I can come to MB antenna? How about if I
> line up the new antenna exactly on the MB antenna's long axis. It seems the
> sides of the MB antenna are the reception areas.
>
> Is the distance between antennas measured from tip of the or their bases.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Rob Kermanj
>
> Do Not archive.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: antenna locations |
Thanks Dave.
I was just worrying that the Delta Pop (my choice also) transmission
would generate audio my MB audio panel. Not a concern then?
RobK
do not archive
On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Dave Saylor wrote:
> Rob,
>
> The main concern is to keep the NavWorx antenna far from the the other
antennas transmitting on similar frequencies: transponder, TCAS, etc.
Since the marker doesn't transmit, I wouldn't worry too much about
proximity. I put my UAT under the baggage floor and it works just fine.
I used the Delta Pop antenna that NavWorx recommended.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I am installing Navwox UAT (ADSB) and one of the requirements for the
transponder antenna placement is 5' from other antennas. This leaves
the area under the belly aft of the baggage compartment my most logical
choice. I am planning to place the antenna between my Marker Beacon
(boat antenna) located somewhere near the battery and the VOR (whisker)
antenna under the horizontal stab.
>
> I have to compromise and place the antenna closer to MB antenna.
Anyone has any facts regarding how close I can come to MB antenna? How
about if I line up the new antenna exactly on the MB antenna's long
axis. It seems the sides of the MB antenna are the reception areas.
>
> Is the distance between antennas measured from tip of the or their
bases.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Rob Kermanj
>
> Do Not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: antenna locations |
My MB is a wire in the wingtip, so it's not as close as yours. But the
frequencies are so different that I don't think you'll have a problem. I
put my UAT antenna at the aft edge of the baggage compartment, just to get
it as far as possible from my comm. No issues there at all. If you can
place the UAT a little further forward, say one or two feet from the marker,
I can't imagine you'd hear anything from it.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Dave.
>
> I was just worrying that the Delta Pop (my choice also) transmission would
> generate audio my MB audio panel. Not a concern then?
>
> RobK
>
> do not archive
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> On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Dave Saylor wrote:
>
> Rob,
>
> The main concern is to keep the NavWorx antenna far from the the other
> antennas transmitting on similar frequencies: transponder, TCAS, etc.
> Since the marker doesn't transmit, I wouldn't worry too much about
> proximity. I put my UAT under the baggage floor and it works just fine. I
> used the Delta Pop antenna that NavWorx recommended.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I am installing Navwox UAT (ADSB) and one of the requirements for the
>> transponder antenna placement is 5' from other antennas. This leaves the
>> area under the belly aft of the baggage compartment my most logical choice.
>> I am planning to place the antenna between my Marker Beacon (boat antenna)
>> located somewhere near the battery and the VOR (whisker) antenna under the
>> horizontal stab.
>>
>> I have to compromise and place the antenna closer to MB antenna. Anyone
>> has any facts regarding how close I can come to MB antenna? How about if I
>> line up the new antenna exactly on the MB antenna's long axis. It seems the
>> sides of the MB antenna are the reception areas.
>>
>> Is the distance between antennas measured from tip of the or their bases.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Rob Kermanj
>>
>> Do Not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: antenna locations |
Ok. Thanks. I'll keep it as far away and not worry about it. Good
thing is that the vOR and MB will be obsolete soon anyway.
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On Sep 24, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Dave Saylor wrote:
> My MB is a wire in the wingtip, so it's not as close as yours. But
the frequencies are so different that I don't think you'll have a
problem. I put my UAT antenna at the aft edge of the baggage
compartment, just to get it as far as possible from my comm. No issues
there at all. If you can place the UAT a little further forward, say one
or two feet from the marker, I can't imagine you'd hear anything from
it.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks Dave.
>
> I was just worrying that the Delta Pop (my choice also) transmission
would generate audio my MB audio panel. Not a concern then?
>
> RobK
>
> do not archive
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> On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Dave Saylor wrote:
>
>> Rob,
>>
>> The main concern is to keep the NavWorx antenna far from the the
other antennas transmitting on similar frequencies: transponder, TCAS,
etc. Since the marker doesn't transmit, I wouldn't worry too much about
proximity. I put my UAT under the baggage floor and it works just fine.
I used the Delta Pop antenna that NavWorx recommended.
>>
>> Dave Saylor
>> AirCrafters
>> 140 Aviation Way
>> Watsonville, CA 95076
>> 831-722-9141 Shop
>> 831-750-0284 Cell
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> I am installing Navwox UAT (ADSB) and one of the requirements for the
transponder antenna placement is 5' from other antennas. This leaves
the area under the belly aft of the baggage compartment my most logical
choice. I am planning to place the antenna between my Marker Beacon
(boat antenna) located somewhere near the battery and the VOR (whisker)
antenna under the horizontal stab.
>>
>> I have to compromise and place the antenna closer to MB antenna.
Anyone has any facts regarding how close I can come to MB antenna? How
about if I line up the new antenna exactly on the MB antenna's long
axis. It seems the sides of the MB antenna are the reception areas.
>>
>> Is the distance between antennas measured from tip of the or their
bases.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Rob Kermanj
>>
>> Do Not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: antenna locations |
I would say so. Neither the VOR or MB transmits. It also hints that the
receiver may not be robust enough to tolerate large signals. Keep us
posted as I'm looking at the ADS600-B down the road. By the time I get
to fly there may be more competition.
Linn
On 9/24/2011 8:59 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
> Not sure if Navwox is requiring it. Below is the text from Navworx
> installation manual:
>
> "The UAT Antenna MUST be installed no less than 5 feet from any
> Transponder /TCAS/TAS or DME antenna. Failure to adhere to this
> critical installation note will result in failure of the ADS600-B and
> void your warranty. "
>
> It looks like MB and VOR antennas are Except (?). 2' is good then?
>
> Rob
> do not archive
>
> On Sep 24, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Linn Walters wrote:
>
>> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net <mailto:pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>>
>>
>> I'd talk to NavWorks and ask 'why'. The separation distance usually
>> applies to antennas that transmit and/or receive, and 2' is a common
>> distance. The separation keeps the transmitting antenna from
>> swamping receiver antennas and/or damaging the 'delicate' amplifiers
>> made to pick up small signals. Receiver front ends are now far more
>> capable of dealing with large signals than older equipment. It's
>> called progress, which comes slowl
>>
>> I think 5' is unusually large, but I'm not writing the specs that the
>> FAA requires for the TSO, if that's where the parameter comes from.
>> I suspect that somewhere, someone figured that if 2' is good, 5' is
>> better. It also could be Navworks being terribly conservative so as
>> to head off installation problems down the road. Only NavWorks can
>> answer that, and getting to talk to someone that really has the
>> answer can be problematic.
>>
>> Having said all that and trying to answer one of your questions .....
>> don't be completely anal about the distance from different 'parts' of
>> the antenna. If it's close to 5' separation that should be OK. If
>> you have the time to set up the equipment and power it up on the
>> bench, you can move the antennas around and see just what the effect
>> is. Much easier than re-locating an antenna when you're in phase 1
>> (or 2, 3, 4 ....... ) testing.
>> Linn
>>
>> On 9/24/2011 5:20 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rob Kermanj<flysrv10@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:flysrv10@gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> I am installing Navwox UAT (ADSB) and one of the requirements for
>>> the transponder antenna placement is 5' from other antennas. This
>>> leaves the area under the belly aft of the baggage compartment my
>>> most logical choice. I am planning to place the antenna between my
>>> Marker Beacon (boat antenna) located somewhere near the battery and
>>> the VOR (whisker) antenna under the horizontal stab.
>>>
>>> I have to compromise and place the antenna closer to MB antenna.
>>> Anyone has any facts regarding how close I can come to MB antenna?
>>> How about if I line up the new antenna exactly on the MB antenna's
>>> long axis. It seems the sides of the MB antenna are the reception
>>> areas.
>>>
>>> Is the distance between antennas measured from tip of the or their
>>> bases.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Rob Kermanj
>>>
>>> Do Not archive.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Tire in Atlanta? |
Thanks for the offers to help. I got a used tire on the field to get me home. Great
community to be a part of.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 24, 2011, at 7:20 AM, "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Jesse,
> I live 4 miles from Aircraft Spruce in Peachtree City. They are open on Saturday
until 1600. Give me a call at 7704879648 when you wake up Saturday morning.
>
> John Goodman
>
> --------
> #40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353097#353097
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Advice? |
Time for two main tires / tubes.
Looking for any advice on new tires and tubes.
Jim C
N312F - 285 hours.
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Advice? |
Suggest recaps from Desser. Call and ask for exchange price(should match
below if prices haven't gone up). They will ship you fresh tires, and
you send back your old cores. IIRC they will supply the UPS label. Get
their Leakguard tubes if you don't already have. They have tube stems
for the Cirrus.
Here is from my invoice:
15/600-6 6 RT 2.000 2.000 0.000 $49.00 $98.00
RETREAD EXCHANGE
TU 15/600-6 ACM 2.000 2.000 0.000 $39.95 $79.90
**BUTYL EASY / CONVENIENCE VALVE
On 9/24/2011 1:35 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
> Time for two main tires / tubes.
>
> Looking for any advice on new tires and tubes.
>
> Jim C
> N312F - 285 hours.
>
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| Subject: | G3X Component Locations |
OK you G3X'ers out there - where are you putting the "stuff". After reading the
4197 page instruction manual it appears that the best place for the magnetometer
is in the wing tip, and the AHRS near the firewall.
The reason for the wing tip is to get it away from all the big wires and motors
(eg., trim) and magnetic stuff. The reason for mounting the ARHS forward is
that it also has the engine monitor integral to it and the sensor probes have
to connect to it. Maybe on top of the tunnel?
What have y'all been doing?
I just got my GTX-23 yesterday and it appears that the best place for this transponder
is behind the baggage compartment bulkhead, above the batteries, where
I had originally planned to put the AHRS.
--------
Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - Need to start panel
Rest almost done
Breathing too much fiberglass dust
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353128#353128
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| Subject: | G3X Component Locations |
Hi Dave,
The GMU is best placed either in the fuselage on the bulkhead behind the
baggage compartment wall or on the wingtip. We have a custom made mount for
either location so give us a call and we can get one on the way to you. The
Fuse location is nice and handy, but won't work so well if you have an air
conditioner in that same bay...otherwise we have dozens flying with the unit
in that location with no problems. The wingtip is nice as well, but only if
there is no strobe power supply or wingtip fuel tank.
You are correct that the AHRS is best mounted either between the panel and
sub panel, or between the firewall and sub panel directly in front of the
screens so you can easily work on it without crawling around on your back.
The GTX can go in the back or in the front, no problem either way.
My 2 cents as usual!
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
SteinAir, Inc.
651-460-6955
stein@steinair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nukeflyboy
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 3:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: G3X Component Locations
OK you G3X'ers out there - where are you putting the "stuff". After reading
the 4197 page instruction manual it appears that the best place for the
magnetometer is in the wing tip, and the AHRS near the firewall.
The reason for the wing tip is to get it away from all the big wires and
motors (eg., trim) and magnetic stuff. The reason for mounting the ARHS
forward is that it also has the engine monitor integral to it and the sensor
probes have to connect to it. Maybe on top of the tunnel?
What have y'all been doing?
I just got my GTX-23 yesterday and it appears that the best place for this
transponder is behind the baggage compartment bulkhead, above the batteries,
where I had originally planned to put the AHRS.
--------
Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - Need to start panel
Rest almost done
Breathing too much fiberglass dust
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353128#353128
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Advice? |
http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/
tire review from Tim's site-
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/maintenance/ACJuneFinal04-dtr.pdf
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly McMullen
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tire Advice?
Suggest recaps from Desser. Call and ask for exchange price(should match
below if prices haven't gone up). They will ship you fresh tires, and
you send back your old cores. IIRC they will supply the UPS label. Get
their Leakguard tubes if you don't already have. They have tube stems
for the Cirrus.
Here is from my invoice:
15/600-6 6 RT 2.000 2.000 0.000 $49.00 $98.00
RETREAD EXCHANGE
TU 15/600-6 ACM 2.000 2.000 0.000 $39.95 $79.90
**BUTYL EASY / CONVENIENCE VALVE
On 9/24/2011 1:35 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
> Time for two main tires / tubes.
>
> Looking for any advice on new tires and tubes.
>
> Jim C
> N312F - 285 hours.
>
> Do Not Archive
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A friend who sometimes flies my 10 got a new license plate.
_____
From: Tom Hodgdon [mailto:thodgdon@AMSAFE.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 1:47 PM
Subject: Fly RV-10
My new license plate came today.
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Fly RV-10 |
That's what my wife's is here in WI. ;)
Tim
Do not archive
On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:19 PM, "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com> wrote:
> A friend who sometimes flies my 10 got a new license plate.
>
>
>
> From: Tom Hodgdon [mailto:thodgdon@AMSAFE.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 1:47 PM
> To: DLM
> Subject: Fly RV-10
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>
> My new license plate came today
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