---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/25/11: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:24 AM - Re: antenna locations (Rob Kermanj) 2. 06:50 AM - antenna locations (Chris Hukill) 3. 07:08 AM - Re: G3X Component Locations (bill.peyton) 4. 07:12 AM - Re: G3X Component Locations (bill.peyton) 5. 07:27 AM - Re: FW: Fly RV-10 (Roger Standley) 6. 08:22 AM - Re: antenna locations (Kelly McMullen) 7. 08:51 AM - Re: FW: Fly RV-10 (DLM) 8. 08:53 AM - Re: FW: Fly RV-10 (DLM) 9. 12:06 PM - Re: G3X Component Locations (TBL) 10. 06:05 PM - Re: G3X Component Locations (nukeflyboy) 11. 07:21 PM - Re: Re: G3X Component Locations (Jim Combs) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:24:56 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: antenna locations From: Rob Kermanj Ok I will keep you posted. I should done with the installation by the end of next week. Do not archive Rob Kermanj Sent from my iPad On Sep 24, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Linn Walters wrote: > I would say so. Neither the VOR or MB transmits. It also hints that the r eceiver may not be robust enough to tolerate large signals. Keep us posted a s I'm looking at the ADS600-B down the road. By the time I get to fly there may be more competition. > > Linn > > On 9/24/2011 8:59 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote: >> >> Not sure if Navwox is requiring it. Below is the text from Navworx insta llation manual: >> >> "The UAT Antenna MUST be installed no less than 5 feet from any Transpond er /TCAS/TAS or DME antenna. Failure to adhere to this critical in stallation note will result in failure of the ADS600-B and void your warrant y. " >> >> It looks like MB and VOR antennas are Except (?). 2' is good then? >> >> Rob >> do not archive >> >> On Sep 24, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Linn Walters wrote: >> > >>> >>> I'd talk to NavWorks and ask 'why'. The separation distance usually app lies to antennas that transmit and/or receive, and 2' is a common distance. The separation keeps the transmitting antenna from swamping receiver antenn as and/or damaging the 'delicate' amplifiers made to pick up small signals. Receiver front ends are now far more capable of dealing with large signals t han older equipment. It's called progress, which comes slowl >>> >>> I think 5' is unusually large, but I'm not writing the specs that the FA A requires for the TSO, if that's where the parameter comes from. I suspect that somewhere, someone figured that if 2' is good, 5' is better. It also c ould be Navworks being terribly conservative so as to head off installation p roblems down the road. Only NavWorks can answer that, and getting to talk t o someone that really has the answer can be problematic. >>> >>> Having said all that and trying to answer one of your questions ..... do n't be completely anal about the distance from different 'parts' of the ante nna. If it's close to 5' separation that should be OK. If you have the ti me to set up the equipment and power it up on the bench, you can move the an tennas around and see just what the effect is. Much easier than re-locating an antenna when you're in phase 1 (or 2, 3, 4 ....... ) testing. >>> Linn >>> >>> On 9/24/2011 5:20 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote: >>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rob Kermanj >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I am installing Navwox UAT (ADSB) and one of the requirements for the t ransponder antenna placement is 5' from other antennas. This leaves the are a under the belly aft of the baggage compartment my most logical choice. I a m planning to place the antenna between my Marker Beacon (boat antenna) loca ted somewhere near the battery and the VOR (whisker) antenna under the horiz ontal stab. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I have to compromise and place the antenna closer to MB antenna. Anyon e has any facts regarding how close I can come to MB antenna ? How about if I line up the new antenna exactly on the MB antenna's long a xis. It seems the sides of the MB antenna are the reception areas. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Is the distance between antennas measured from tip of the or their base s. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Thank you. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Rob Kermanj >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Do Not archive. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> http://www.matronics================== ======http://www.matronics.com/co=========== ===== >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:50 AM PST US From: "Chris Hukill" Subject: RV10-List: antenna locations The MB and ADF may not be obsolete as soon as GPS if Obama's sponsor Lightsquare gets their way! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:34 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations From: "bill.peyton" I have located the GMU using the bracket Stein provides, on the 2nd bulkhead back from the baggage, the one where the static port is close to. This puts it far enough away from the battery and the elev trim servo. There are lots flying this way with no issues. My GSU is mounted on a stiff tray I fabricated from .062 that spans the instrument panel to the subpanel on the right as close to the right side as possible. It is extremely stiff at that location. The pitot static will go through the sub-panel using 90 deg. elbows. I would not mount it on the tunnel or close to the firewall due to possible heat issues and acess. Bill -------- Bill Peyton Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353156#353156 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1952_413.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:56 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations From: "bill.peyton" Another photo showing the locations of the remaining items -------- Bill Peyton Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353157#353157 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1963_522.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:23 AM PST US From: "Roger Standley" Subject: Re: RV10-List: FW: Fly RV-10 Awesome! Pictures, lets see pictures. Wonder if we could find one from all "47" states? ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Olson To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 8:48 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: FW: Fly RV-10 That's what my wife's is here in WI. ;) Tim Do not archive On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:19 PM, "DLM" > wrote: A friend who sometimes flies my 10 got a new license plate. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: Tom Hodgdon [mailto:thodgdon@AMSAFE.com] Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 1:47 PM To: DLM Subject: Fly RV-10 My new license plate came today http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:33 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: antenna locations From: Kelly McMullen If the FCC continues its boneheaded ways, they will have to turn Loran back on. However, Lightsquared's approvals date back before the current administration. The FCC is allegedly an independent commission, so politics role is so far speculative, and not worthy of discussion here. If one discusses politics, all building stops, and there will be no more RV grins..........so go bang some rivets and shed any frustrations with making the next most perfect airplane. ;-) On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Chris Hukill wrote: > The MB and ADF may not be obsolete as soon as GPS if Obamas sponsor > Lightsquare gets their way! > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:49 AM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: RE: RV10-List: FW: Fly RV-10 Here is one note the scenery not the airplane.. Monument Valley. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Standley Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 7:25 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: FW: Fly RV-10 Awesome! Pictures, lets see pictures. Wonder if we could find one from all "47" states? ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Olson Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 8:48 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: FW: Fly RV-10 That's what my wife's is here in WI. ;) Tim Do not archive On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:19 PM, "DLM" wrote: A friend who sometimes flies my 10 got a new license plate. _____ From: Tom Hodgdon [mailto:thodgdon@AMSAFE.com] Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 1:47 PM Subject: Fly RV-10 My new license plate came today. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:30 AM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: RE: RV10-List: FW: Fly RV-10 Didn't you mean all 57 states? _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Standley Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 7:25 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: FW: Fly RV-10 Awesome! Pictures, lets see pictures. Wonder if we could find one from all "47" states? ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Olson Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 8:48 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: FW: Fly RV-10 That's what my wife's is here in WI. ;) Tim Do not archive On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:19 PM, "DLM" wrote: A friend who sometimes flies my 10 got a new license plate. _____ From: Tom Hodgdon [mailto:thodgdon@AMSAFE.com] Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 1:47 PM Subject: Fly RV-10 My new license plate came today. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:48 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations From: "TBL" Hi Bill, Would you mind giving me your reasons for deciding on a 3 screen system? And Lawrence -------- 2nd time offender Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353177#353177 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:08 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations From: "nukeflyboy" Stein and Bill - thanks for the info and photos. I'll put the magnetometer in the aft fuselage area as Stein suggests. It helps to know that it works well there. I like Bill's AHRS mounting and will do something similar. I am also installing a 3 screen system. My reasons are to have two in front of the pilot (one to aviate, one to navigate/WX/ etc.) and one in front of the co-pilot so it can be flown from the right seat. An unrelated factor was that the price reduction on the G3X allowed me to get 3 screens for a lot less $ than a 2 screen GRT or AFS. -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - Need to start panel Rest almost done Breathing too much fiberglass dust Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353190#353190 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:21:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations From: Jim Combs I would be interested to know what a G3X costs vs the GRT and AFS (At the same functionality) Does the G3X have engine instrumentation? Do you have to pay an annual subscription for map updates? I am not familiar with anything other than the AFS. I know things change faster than one can build a panel. But a real point in time comparison with the features would be interesting! Jim C Do Not Archive On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 8:59 PM, nukeflyboy wrote: > > Stein and Bill - thanks for the info and photos. I'll put the magnetometer > in the aft fuselage area as Stein suggests. It helps to know that it works > well there. I like Bill's AHRS mounting and will do something similar. > > I am also installing a 3 screen system. My reasons are to have two in > front of the pilot (one to aviate, one to navigate/WX/ etc.) and one in > front of the co-pilot so it can be flown from the right seat. > > An unrelated factor was that the price reduction on the G3X allowed me to > get 3 screens for a lot less $ than a 2 screen GRT or AFS. > > -------- > Dave Moore > RV-6 flying > RV-10 QB - Need to start panel > Rest almost done > Breathing too much fiberglass dust > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353190#353190 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.