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1. 11:36 AM - FW: [LML] Chelton..and more... (John Cox)
2. 12:25 PM - Re: nose wheel tow bar recommendations (Bill Watson)
3. 12:41 PM - Re: nose wheel tow bar recommendations (Rene Felker)
4. 01:35 PM - Re: nose wheel tow bar recommendations (Gary Specketer)
5. 05:49 PM - Rudder Lock (Albert Gardner)
6. 06:53 PM - Re: Rudder Lock (David)
7. 07:44 PM - Re: Rudder Lock (Robin Marks)
8. 08:59 PM - Re: nose wheel tow bar recommendations (Dave Saylor)
9. 09:22 PM - Re: Rudder Lock (Albert Gardner)
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| Subject: | FW: [LML] Chelton..and more... |
Tim and other Chelton aficionados'. Here is a Conversion to Garmin
instrumentation which might create a benefit to someone building an
RV-10 and holding interest in Chelton equipment in their panel.
Contact Ronald at "ronald@sdc.com"
John 40600
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From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of
Ronald STEVENS
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:23 AM
Subject: [LML] Chelton......and more...
Hello guys
Well you perhaps did see the picture of my new panel, and it really
looks good, but after flying with it hard IFR I have to admit that my
currency on the Garmins is better than this from the Cheltons. Also to
new Garmin GTN750 does not talk to the Chelton (in other words, you can
put a flight plan in both systems and can switch between the 2 systems
for your autopilot).
So I am thinking of selling my Chelton (3 screen system, including the
WSI module) and getting either the Garmin G500 or a couple of Garmin G3X
screens.
Now I asked an avionics shop what my chelton would cost, and he told me
that this is at least 60k. But I know I will not get 60k back for it
right now, but if someone is interested than make me an offer I cannot
refuse and I will get the Chelton out of my plane and start working on
my panel again lol
== Ronald >65 hours and counting
ps Stuff I really like about the chelton is the VFR approach, also the
HITS is pretty good, the engine monitor is very clean and clear.
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| Subject: | Re: nose wheel tow bar recommendations |
Yep, the Bogert bar.
One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
"Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might
be great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made
to fit - and not luck.
Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it a
Bogie bar? What brand was it.
Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
On 9/26/2011 3:32 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
> Can anyone give me a brand and location to purchase a tow bar for the
> 10 which works well with the nose faring?
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| Subject: | nose wheel tow bar recommendations |
I had two rudder lock failures...bummer. My third one is just PVC
Looks like this..
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Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: nose wheel tow bar recommendations
Yep, the Bogert bar.
One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
"Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be
great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit -
and not luck.
Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it a
Bogie bar? What brand was it.
Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
On 9/26/2011 3:32 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
Can anyone give me a brand and location to purchase a tow bar for the 10
which works well with the nose faring?
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| Subject: | Re: nose wheel tow bar recommendations |
I used the Bogert tow bar and added a couple of carriage bolts on the
bottom end to fit in the holes in the rudder peddles. I slide the seat
forward onto the tow bar top T and tie the seat belt around the stick
and the tow bar for a secure set up. Unfortunately I do not have
pictures, but the key is to not allow the tow bar to fall off of the
rudder peddles and the large head of the carriage bolts keeps it in
place and also puts mild pressure on the brakes to hold the plane steady
in a blow. It is simple, you always have it with you and there is no
extra weight to carry around.
Gary Specketer
From: Bill Watson
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: nose wheel tow bar recommendations
Yep, the Bogert bar.
One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
"Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might
be great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made
to fit - and not luck.
Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it a
Bogie bar? What brand was it.
Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
On 9/26/2011 3:32 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
Can anyone give me a brand and location to purchase a tow bar for the
10 which works well with the nose faring?
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The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat belts and
then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
"Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be
great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit -
and not luck.
Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it a
Bogie bar? What brand was it.
Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
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My solution is the same as Alberts. I also install an aileron lock on
one or both of the ailerons, and use the interior control lock that
Alex DeDominices used to sell on his ATP Products site. I am not sure
where you get them now. It is a rod with a spring that fits against
the pedals and the seat base, and has a velcro strap to hold the
stick. Sorry I don't have a link to it any more. It is marginal by
itself, but with the other systems I am using, I seem to have a
pretty good system for locking the controls.
David Maib
40559
Flying
On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:
> The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat
> belts and then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder.
>
> Albert Gardner
>
> N991RV
>
> Yuma, AZ
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
> One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics
> of a "Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like
> it might be great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar
> can be made to fit - and not luck.
> Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was
> it a Bogie bar? What brand was it.
> Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
>
>
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I still like my system. Seatbelt on the stick and a simple rudder lock that
is ultra small & weighs nearly nothing.
(Red painted one is from my 8A)
Robin
*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:48 PM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Rudder Lock
My solution is the same as Alberts. I also install an aileron
lock<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/padlock.php> on
one or both of the ailerons, and use the interior control lock that Alex
DeDominices used to sell on his ATP Products site. I am not sure where you
get them now. It is a rod with a spring that fits against the pedals and the
seat base, and has a velcro strap to hold the stick. Sorry I don't have a
link to it any more. It is marginal by itself, but with the other systems I
am using, I seem to have a pretty good system for locking the controls.
David Maib
40559
Flying
On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:
The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat belts and
then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [
mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>]
*On Behalf Of *Bill Watson
One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
"Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be
great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit -
and not luck.
Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it a
Bogie bar? What brand was it.
Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
* *
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| Subject: | Re: nose wheel tow bar recommendations |
Bill,
I had a couple tabs welded onto my Bogie Bar so they fit between the rudder
pedal and the tube. That locks the bar in place. Just had to make sure the
tabs are positioned so they don't interfere with the nose fairing. Pictures
are in the archive.
Then I added a bungee on one of the pivot bolts. The stick rests in the V
of the lever handle, and the bungee wraps around the stick to secure the
ailerons.
Then clamp the whole thing down with the seat belt. See pics in the
archives from 10 June 2010.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> Yep, the Bogert bar.
>
> One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
> "Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be
> great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit -
> and not luck.
>
> Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it a
> Bogie bar? What brand was it.
>
> Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
>
>
> On 9/26/2011 3:32 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
>
> Can anyone give me a brand and location to purchase a tow bar for the 10
> which works well with the nose faring?
>
>
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Well, yours looks a lot more elegant but they always feel sorry for me and
give me a discount on fuel.
Albert
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Lock
I still like my system. Seatbelt on the stick and a simple rudder lock that
is ultra small & weighs nearly nothing.
(Red painted one is from my 8A)
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rudder Lock
My solution is the same as Alberts. I also install an aileron lock
<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/padlock.php> on one or both
of the ailerons, and use the interior control lock that Alex DeDominices
used to sell on his ATP Products site. I am not sure where you get them now.
It is a rod with a spring that fits against the pedals and the seat base,
and has a velcro strap to hold the stick. Sorry I don't have a link to it
any more. It is marginal by itself, but with the other systems I am using, I
seem to have a pretty good system for locking the controls.
David Maib
40559
Flying
On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:
The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat belts and
then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
"Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be
great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit -
and not luck.
Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it a
Bogie bar? What brand was it.
Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
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