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1. 04:33 AM - Re: Rudder Lock (Jesse Saint)
2. 05:30 AM - RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH (rleffler)
3. 07:21 AM - Door photos (jayb)
4. 09:06 AM - Re: nose wheel tow bar recommendations (Bill Watson)
5. 09:20 AM - Re: Door photos (Lew Gallagher)
6. 10:11 AM - Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH (DLM)
7. 10:34 AM - Re: Door photos (Bill Watson)
8. 10:48 AM - Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH (John Cox)
9. 10:53 AM - Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH (Michael Kraus)
10. 11:03 AM - Re: Door photos (jayb)
11. 11:12 AM - Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH (Ron Walker)
12. 11:26 AM - Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH (Phillip Perry)
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I have used the Bogie Bar with tubes welded on to extend the arms at the
end where it grabs the nose wheel. Those tubes fit in the holes on the
rudder pedals and then the handle of the bar goes against the seat back
with a seat belt holding it down. Then you use the other seatbelt to
hold the stick back if you want to lock elevator and ailerons. I have
looked at most of the different things that people have used and have
tested some of them. There is nothing that I think comes close to as
strong as this, especially in heavy winds. I know one plane that had to
replace the rudder because he used the spring-loaded gust lock that
holds the pedals. It broke in heavy wind and the rudder was damaged
beyond repair.
Another benefit is that you can not possibly get in the plane and take
off without removing it, because it is in the front seat. It also weighs
almost nothing in addition to your tow bar, assuming that you are taking
your tow bar with you when you travel.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Sep 28, 2011, at 12:19 AM, Albert Gardner wrote:
> Well, yours looks a lot more elegant but they always feel sorry for me
and give me a discount on fuel.
> Albert
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:41 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Lock
>
> I still like my system. Seatbelt on the stick and a simple rudder lock
that is ultra small & weighs nearly nothing.
> (Red painted one is from my 8A)
> Robin
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:48 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rudder Lock
>
> My solution is the same as Alberts. I also install an aileron lock on
one or both of the ailerons, and use the interior control lock that Alex
DeDominices used to sell on his ATP Products site. I am not sure where
you get them now. It is a rod with a spring that fits against the pedals
and the seat base, and has a velcro strap to hold the stick. Sorry I
don't have a link to it any more. It is marginal by itself, but with the
other systems I am using, I seem to have a pretty good system for
locking the controls.
>
> David Maib
> 40559
> Flying
>
> On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:
>
>
> The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat
belts and then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder.
> Albert Gardner
> N991RV
> Yuma, AZ
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
> One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
"Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might
be great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made
to fit - and not luck.
> Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it
a Bogie bar? What brand was it.
> Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
>
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| Subject: | RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
I just saw this news posting:
http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2011/09/28/marietta-plane-crash-2-with-injuries.html
Two people were treated at The Ohio State University Medical Center on Wednesday
morning after their homemade plane crashed.
The plane crashed shortly after 7 p.m. on Tuesday about 200 yards from state Route
7, 10TV's Shayla Reaves reported.
Police said that the pilot was Nicholas Austin, 24, of Frederiskburg, Texas and
the co-pilot was Richard Gray, 54, of Vincent, Ohio.
Officials said their RV-10 aircraft had just taken off from the Wood County Airport
in West Virginia for a test flight when it crashed.
The two men were being treated for serious injuries.
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Bob Leffler
N410BL - FWF
RV-10 #40684
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
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I've been meaning to post a couple photos of my doors. They turned out pretty nice...
Abby at Flightline Interiors provided the fabric and trim strips.
Cheers,
Jay
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| Subject: | Re: nose wheel tow bar recommendations |
Thanks Dave,
I actually saw that and tried to figure out how the bar was made to fit
in there. Couldn't quite do it and assumed it was a non-Bogie Bar.
I'll have to take a closer look and try again. I understand the tab
thing. Had some trouble with fitting my stick tops thru the V... more
evaluation required.
Bill "loving the flying part" Watson
On 9/27/2011 11:55 PM, Dave Saylor wrote:
> Bill,
>
> I had a couple tabs welded onto my Bogie Bar so they fit between the
> rudder pedal and the tube. That locks the bar in place. Just had to
> make sure the tabs are positioned so they don't interfere with the
> nose fairing. Pictures are in the archive.
>
> Then I added a bungee on one of the pivot bolts. The stick rests in
> the V of the lever handle, and the bungee wraps around the stick to
> secure the ailerons.
>
> Then clamp the whole thing down with the seat belt. See pics in the
> archives from 10 June 2010.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
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Hey Jay,
Not just "pretty nice" ... VERY nice !
Later, - Lew
do not archive
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| Subject: | RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
The FAA accident stats indicate the number was 499RV and serial 40373.
Registration shows date of 8/15/2011; and Ronald Owen of Sebring FL as
manufacturer which does not match either person or location on board. Will
be interesting to see who built it, when phase I was completed and what
engine it had in as it is not specified in the FAA online records.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rleffler
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:28 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH
I just saw this news posting:
http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2011/09/28/marietta-plane-crash-2-with-i
njuries.html
Two people were treated at The Ohio State University Medical Center on
Wednesday morning after their homemade plane crashed.
The plane crashed shortly after 7 p.m. on Tuesday about 200 yards from state
Route 7, 10TV's Shayla Reaves reported.
Police said that the pilot was Nicholas Austin, 24, of Frederiskburg, Texas
and the co-pilot was Richard Gray, 54, of Vincent, Ohio.
Officials said their RV-10 aircraft had just taken off from the Wood County
Airport in West Virginia for a test flight when it crashed.
The two men were being treated for serious injuries.
--------
Bob Leffler
N410BL - FWF
RV-10 #40684
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353406#353406
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Nicely done Jay!
I'm curious about the decision to stay clear of the door edge. In my
case, after carefully fitting the doors without the trim, adding the
trim changed the fit just enough to put everything out of kilter. I'm
still trying to straighten it all out.
Good idea to stay clear but it must complicate the task of gluing it all
down and maintaining an even outer margin.
Is this a new Flightline option?
BTW, I'm very happy with my Flightline interior. The fit was fantastic
and it continues to evolve with enhancements. Though I did zero sound
insulation, the amount of sound reduction from the carpet and fabric is
amazing. And my rear tail panel is still uncovered... may just paint
it. Very satisfied!
Bill
On 9/28/2011 10:18 AM, jayb wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jayb"<jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
>
> I've been meaning to post a couple photos of my doors. They turned out pretty
nice... Abby at Flightline Interiors provided the fabric and trim strips.
>
> Cheers,
> Jay
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
Link did not work but Thanks.
John 40600
On Sep 28, 2011 5:34 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>
> I just saw this news posting:
>
>
http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2011/09/28/marietta-plane-crash-2-with-injuries.html
>
> Two people were treated at The Ohio State University Medical Center on
Wednesday morning after their homemade plane crashed.
>
> The plane crashed shortly after 7 p.m. on Tuesday about 200 yards from
state Route 7, 10TV's Shayla Reaves reported.
>
> Police said that the pilot was Nicholas Austin, 24, of Frederiskburg,
Texas and the co-pilot was Richard Gray, 54, of Vincent, Ohio.
>
> Officials said their RV-10 aircraft had just taken off from the Wood
County Airport in West Virginia for a test flight when it crashed.
>
> The two men were being treated for serious injuries.
>
> --------
> Bob Leffler
> N410BL - FWF
> RV-10 #40684
> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353406#353406
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
There is info on VAF. Sounds like Rick Gray runs a builder assist center and was
flying with a customer prior to delivery of a new plane.
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=77171
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On Sep 28, 2011, at 1:07 PM, "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com> wrote:
>
> The FAA accident stats indicate the number was 499RV and serial 40373.
> Registration shows date of 8/15/2011; and Ronald Owen of Sebring FL as
> manufacturer which does not match either person or location on board. Will
> be interesting to see who built it, when phase I was completed and what
> engine it had in as it is not specified in the FAA online records.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rleffler
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:28 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH
>
>
> I just saw this news posting:
>
> http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2011/09/28/marietta-plane-crash-2-with-i
> njuries.html
>
> Two people were treated at The Ohio State University Medical Center on
> Wednesday morning after their homemade plane crashed.
>
> The plane crashed shortly after 7 p.m. on Tuesday about 200 yards from state
> Route 7, 10TV's Shayla Reaves reported.
>
> Police said that the pilot was Nicholas Austin, 24, of Frederiskburg, Texas
> and the co-pilot was Richard Gray, 54, of Vincent, Ohio.
>
> Officials said their RV-10 aircraft had just taken off from the Wood County
> Airport in West Virginia for a test flight when it crashed.
>
> The two men were being treated for serious injuries.
>
> --------
> Bob Leffler
> N410BL - FWF
> RV-10 #40684
> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353406#353406
>
>
>
>
>
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One additional photo is attached.
Nope. Not a standard Flightline option.
The edge was actually pretty easy. From the photo you can see where I drew a line
around the inside edge of the closed door. Then glued the fabric close the
the edge. Finally, finished up with a trim strip. The edge trim provided the special
sauce as it dressed up the ragged cut line. If you go that route, the trim
is the same as for the windows... except there's no hard inner plastic piece.
You should also note that the photo shows half vinyl, half fabric. That was a non-starter
as the vinyl kept popping out of the glue no matter what I did. Very
frustrating. In finally just cut it out and added an extra piece of fabric and
hid the edge with another trim strip.
Making the AL access panels was a custom job by me after a failed attempt at making
them out of glass. The AL ones look better by far.
Abby was helpful and patient while I worked my way through door design iterations
and questions. She also made several custom access covers to match.
Cheers,
Jay
Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com wrote:
> Nicely done Jay!
>
> I'm curious about the decision to stay clear of the door edge. In my
> case, after carefully fitting the doors without the trim, adding the
> trim changed the fit just enough to put everything out of kilter. I'm
> still trying to straighten it all out.
>
> Good idea to stay clear but it must complicate the task of gluing it all
> down and maintaining an even outer margin.
>
> Is this a new Flightline option?
>
> BTW, I'm very happy with my Flightline interior. The fit was fantastic
> and it continues to evolve with enhancements. Though I did zero sound
> insulation, the amount of sound reduction from the carpet and fabric is
> amazing. And my rear tail panel is still uncovered... may just paint
> it. Very satisfied!
>
> Bill
>
> On 9/28/2011 10:18 AM, jayb wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I've been meaning to post a couple photos of my doors. They turned out pretty
nice... Abby at Flightline Interiors provided the fabric and trim strips.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jay
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 13:50 -0400, Michael Kraus wrote:
> Sounds like Rick Gray runs a builder assist center and was flying with
> a customer prior to delivery of a new plane.
Yes - he's built plenty of RV's, plenty of them award winners. His web
site-> http://rv6rick.tripod.com/ohiovalleyrvators/id22.html
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
His F1 was profiled in an EAA video a while back. Here's the link.
http://bcove.me/bphx4b0k
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Ron Walker <n520tx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 13:50 -0400, Michael Kraus wrote:
> > Sounds like Rick Gray runs a builder assist center and was flying with
> > a customer prior to delivery of a new plane.
>
> Yes - he's built plenty of RV's, plenty of them award winners. His web
> site-> http://rv6rick.tripod.com/ohiovalleyrvators/id22.html
>
>
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