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1. 06:32 AM - Re: G3X Component Locations (bill.peyton)
2. 08:39 AM - Re: Re: G3X Component Locations (Gary Specketer)
3. 12:11 PM - user fee petition (Pascal)
4. 01:10 PM - Re: Re: G3X Component Locations (Robin Marks)
5. 01:30 PM - Morristown, TN Fly-in (Steve Roberts)
6. 01:31 PM - Re: Re: G3X Component Locations (Seano)
7. 01:43 PM - Re: Re: G3X Component Locations (Robin Marks)
8. 05:51 PM - Re: Morristown, TN Fly-in (Carl Froehlich)
9. 07:07 PM - Re: Morristown, TN Fly-in (Miller John)
10. 07:39 PM - Re: G3X Component Locations (bill.peyton)
11. 08:37 PM - Re: Re: G3X Component Locations (Robin Marks)
12. 08:40 PM - Bob Archer vs. Cat whisker (Strasnuts)
13. 08:47 PM - Re: Re: G3X Component Locations (Seano)
14. 11:46 PM - Re: Re: G3X Component Locations (Werner Schneider)
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Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
The reason I went with the 3 screen system is that both my wife and I are pilots,
we use our current plane for lot's of long cross country flights. We intend
to do the same with the -10. It seems like the person on the right always ends
up flying for a while on long legs, so the 3rd display will take care of that.
Also, our plan is to usually have the non-flying pilot take care of the
radios, talking to center, looking at weather and navigating. The third display
will make this a lot easier. The final reason is that my father, and building
partner, just turned 87. He continues to fly and pass his medical and BFR
every year. The only issue is insurance. We have been told we will not be able
to get any for him without me or an instructor in the right seat. Those are
the reasons for my choice of a 3 display system.
While the size of the displays are not as large as the AFS or Dynon, they fit very
nicely in the panel. I attached my cad image with JPG files overlaid on the
panel.
Bill
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Bill Peyton
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Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
Good for your Dad, we should all be so lucky to be flying into our late
80's.
Gary Specketer
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From: "bill.peyton" <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
>
> The reason I went with the 3 screen system is that both my wife and I are
> pilots, we use our current plane for lot's of long cross country flights.
> We intend to do the same with the -10. It seems like the person on the
> right always ends up flying for a while on long legs, so the 3rd display
> will take care of that. Also, our plan is to usually have the non-flying
> pilot take care of the radios, talking to center, looking at weather and
> navigating. The third display will make this a lot easier. The final
> reason is that my father, and building partner, just turned 87. He
> continues to fly and pass his medical and BFR every year. The only issue
> is insurance. We have been told we will not be able to get any for him
> without me or an instructor in the right seat. Those are the reasons for
> my choice of a 3 display system.
> While the size of the displays are not as large as the AFS or Dynon, they
> fit very nicely in the panel. I attached my cad image with JPG files
> overlaid on the panel.
> Bill
>
> --------
> Bill Peyton
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353512#353512
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/complete_panel_699.bmp
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Subject: | user fee petition |
I received a e-mail from Fuller, at AOPA asking that I complete a
Petitiion. I know the Socal RV list has also been creating an account
and signing this. I would encourage we continue to hound our
representatives in Congress and Senate. Sadly I am in California,
however my congressman did respond and said he would fight to not allow
user fees to the aviation community.
If no one has seen this (US based)
http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2011/110926-grass-roots-petition-la
unched-to-kill-user-fee-threat.html?WT.mc_id=ebrief
We don=99t want to be where the rest of the world is with user
fees. If you care write the representative, as we have done before and
let them know your feelings. Sign the petition too.
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Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
I agree completely with Bill on his points. One thing not mentioned is the
cost of these systems is not in the screens so adding a third screen is
~$3,500.
All that being said there are a few gotchya's on the G3X and the 430/530.
The 430 takes over responsibility when on so an flight plan best entered
into the G3X is useless when the 430 is on. One must place a flight plan
in the 430 to drive the AP. I have no idea what the situation is with the
650/750. Regardless I understand that Garmin is planning to change this at
some point. On another note I personally prefer the D100 to the D10 as a
backup unit if space permits.
Just getting use to my dual screen G3x system in the 8A.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill.peyton
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:30 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
The reason I went with the 3 screen system is that both my wife and I are
pilots, we use our current plane for lot's of long cross country flights.
We intend to do the same with the -10. It seems like the person on the
right always ends up flying for a while on long legs, so the 3rd display
will take care of that. Also, our plan is to usually have the non-flying
pilot take care of the radios, talking to center, looking at weather and
navigating. The third display will make this a lot easier. The final
reason is that my father, and building partner, just turned 87. He
continues to fly and pass his medical and BFR every year. The only issue
is insurance. We have been told we will not be able to get any for him
without me or an instructor in the right seat. Those are the reasons for
my choice of a 3 display system.
While the size of the displays are not as large as the AFS or Dynon, they
fit very nicely in the panel. I attached my cad image with JPG files
overlaid on the panel.
Bill
--------
Bill Peyton
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353512#353512
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/complete_panel_699.bmp
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Subject: | Morristown, TN Fly-in |
If you are looking for a $100 hamburger on Saturday, our EAA chapter is
holding a fly-in at KMOR, Morristown, TN on Saturday, October 1st from 9 AM
to 3 PM. Come see the new Evelyn Johnson Terminal and FBO, one of the
nicest you will see for an airport without airline service. There will be
food vendor(s) (burgers, etc.) on site. Forecast is sunny and cool and the
mountains are starting to show some color. Come and show off your RV-10!
Steve Roberts
RV-10 Tail Kit
N2700W 1966 Mooney M20E 'Ms. Obsession' KMOR Morristown, TN
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Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
Robin,
The new update fixes this. I flew mine out today (formation with Scott). I can
enter Flt plan on either unit and you can hit internal on the Efis and it uses
it's own gps. It's nice to have the g3x on gps and the 430w on loc.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 29, 2011, at 13:07, Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
>
> I agree completely with Bill on his points. One thing not mentioned is the
> cost of these systems is not in the screens so adding a third screen is
> ~$3,500.
> All that being said there are a few gotchya's on the G3X and the 430/530.
> The 430 takes over responsibility when on so an flight plan best entered
> into the G3X is useless when the 430 is on. One must place a flight plan
> in the 430 to drive the AP. I have no idea what the situation is with the
> 650/750. Regardless I understand that Garmin is planning to change this at
> some point. On another note I personally prefer the D100 to the D10 as a
> backup unit if space permits.
> Just getting use to my dual screen G3x system in the 8A.
>
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill.peyton
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:30 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
>
>
> The reason I went with the 3 screen system is that both my wife and I are
> pilots, we use our current plane for lot's of long cross country flights.
> We intend to do the same with the -10. It seems like the person on the
> right always ends up flying for a while on long legs, so the 3rd display
> will take care of that. Also, our plan is to usually have the non-flying
> pilot take care of the radios, talking to center, looking at weather and
> navigating. The third display will make this a lot easier. The final
> reason is that my father, and building partner, just turned 87. He
> continues to fly and pass his medical and BFR every year. The only issue
> is insurance. We have been told we will not be able to get any for him
> without me or an instructor in the right seat. Those are the reasons for
> my choice of a 3 display system.
> While the size of the displays are not as large as the AFS or Dynon, they
> fit very nicely in the panel. I attached my cad image with JPG files
> overlaid on the panel.
> Bill
>
> --------
> Bill Peyton
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353512#353512
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/complete_panel_699.bmp
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
Thanks! Now all I have to do is figure out how to update.
Robin
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
Robin,
The new update fixes this. I flew mine out today (formation with Scott). I
can enter Flt plan on either unit and you can hit internal on the Efis and
it uses it's own gps. It's nice to have the g3x on gps and the 430w on
loc.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 29, 2011, at 13:07, Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
>
> I agree completely with Bill on his points. One thing not mentioned is
the
> cost of these systems is not in the screens so adding a third screen is
> ~$3,500.
> All that being said there are a few gotchya's on the G3X and the
430/530.
> The 430 takes over responsibility when on so an flight plan best entered
> into the G3X is useless when the 430 is on. One must place a flight plan
> in the 430 to drive the AP. I have no idea what the situation is with
the
> 650/750. Regardless I understand that Garmin is planning to change this
at
> some point. On another note I personally prefer the D100 to the D10 as a
> backup unit if space permits.
> Just getting use to my dual screen G3x system in the 8A.
>
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill.peyton
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:30 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
>
>
> The reason I went with the 3 screen system is that both my wife and I
are
> pilots, we use our current plane for lot's of long cross country
flights.
> We intend to do the same with the -10. It seems like the person on the
> right always ends up flying for a while on long legs, so the 3rd display
> will take care of that. Also, our plan is to usually have the
non-flying
> pilot take care of the radios, talking to center, looking at weather and
> navigating. The third display will make this a lot easier. The final
> reason is that my father, and building partner, just turned 87. He
> continues to fly and pass his medical and BFR every year. The only
issue
> is insurance. We have been told we will not be able to get any for him
> without me or an instructor in the right seat. Those are the reasons
for
> my choice of a 3 display system.
> While the size of the displays are not as large as the AFS or Dynon,
they
> fit very nicely in the panel. I attached my cad image with JPG files
> overlaid on the panel.
> Bill
>
> --------
> Bill Peyton
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353512#353512
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/complete_panel_699.bmp
>
>
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Subject: | Morristown, TN Fly-in |
Any break on the high $6.56/gal gas price for the fly in?
Carl
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Roberts
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:28 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Morristown, TN Fly-in
If you are looking for a $100 hamburger on Saturday, our EAA chapter is
holding a fly-in at KMOR, Morristown, TN on Saturday, October 1st from 9 AM
to 3 PM. Come see the new Evelyn Johnson Terminal and FBO, one of the
nicest you will see for an airport without airline service. There will be
food vendor(s) (burgers, etc.) on site. Forecast is sunny and cool and the
mountains are starting to show some color. Come and show off your RV-10!
Steve Roberts
RV-10 Tail Kit
N2700W 1966 Mooney M20E 'Ms. Obsession' KMOR Morristown, TN
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Subject: | Re: Morristown, TN Fly-in |
Stop by KTHA.
Our self serv price is about $5.15 or so.
On Sep 29, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:
>
> Any break on the high $6.56/gal gas price for the fly in?
>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Roberts
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:28 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Morristown, TN Fly-in
>
>
> If you are looking for a $100 hamburger on Saturday, our EAA chapter is
> holding a fly-in at KMOR, Morristown, TN on Saturday, October 1st from 9 AM
> to 3 PM. Come see the new Evelyn Johnson Terminal and FBO, one of the
> nicest you will see for an airport without airline service. There will be
> food vendor(s) (burgers, etc.) on site. Forecast is sunny and cool and the
> mountains are starting to show some color. Come and show off your RV-10!
>
> Steve Roberts
> RV-10 Tail Kit
> N2700W 1966 Mooney M20E 'Ms. Obsession' KMOR Morristown, TN
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
Robin,
When you find out how to update it let me know! That drawback was a great one
to fix! Now hopefully ADS-b traffic and weather??
Bill
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Bill Peyton
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353580#353580
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Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
It's tentatively on the schedule for this Wednesday.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill.peyton
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:37 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
Robin,
When you find out how to update it let me know! That drawback was a great
one to fix! Now hopefully ADS-b traffic and weather??
Bill
--------
Bill Peyton
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353580#353580
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Subject: | Bob Archer vs. Cat whisker |
Just thought I would let builders know the difference I found today while flying
at 10500 directly to BOI VOR.
My 430W with the cat whiskers picked up BOI at 71 miles south
My SL30 with the Bob Archer picked up BOI at 56 miles south
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40936
RV-10 SB N801VR Flying
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Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
Call me if you have any questions during the update.... goes for you too
Bill.
801-580-3737
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Marks" <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
>
> It's tentatively on the schedule for this Wednesday.
>
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill.peyton
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:37 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
>
>
> Robin,
> When you find out how to update it let me know! That drawback was a great
> one to fix! Now hopefully ADS-b traffic and weather??
> Bill
>
> --------
> Bill Peyton
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353580#353580
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
I just wonder, what the overall cost for such a system is:
G3X with 2 screen, engine monitoring all sensors, AP, the subscribption
for air data, backup battery (?) and I guess a 430 is as a minimum
mandatory for being able to display for navigation VOR, GPS and ILS as well?
Just to compare with the other producer of fine EFIS systems
Many thanks
Werner
On 29.09.2011 22:28, Seano wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Seano<sean@braunandco.com>
>
> Robin,
>
> The new update fixes this. I flew mine out today (formation with Scott). I can
enter Flt plan on either unit and you can hit internal on the Efis and it uses
it's own gps. It's nice to have the g3x on gps and the 430w on loc.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 13:07, Robin Marks<Robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Robin Marks<Robin@painttheweb.com>
>>
>> I agree completely with Bill on his points. One thing not mentioned is the
>> cost of these systems is not in the screens so adding a third screen is
>> ~$3,500.
>> All that being said there are a few gotchya's on the G3X and the 430/530.
>> The 430 takes over responsibility when on so an flight plan best entered
>> into the G3X is useless when the 430 is on. One must place a flight plan
>> in the 430 to drive the AP. I have no idea what the situation is with the
>> 650/750. Regardless I understand that Garmin is planning to change this at
>> some point. On another note I personally prefer the D100 to the D10 as a
>> backup unit if space permits.
>> Just getting use to my dual screen G3x system in the 8A.
>>
>> Robin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill.peyton
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:30 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "bill.peyton"<peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>
>>
>> The reason I went with the 3 screen system is that both my wife and I are
>> pilots, we use our current plane for lot's of long cross country flights.
>> We intend to do the same with the -10. It seems like the person on the
>> right always ends up flying for a while on long legs, so the 3rd display
>> will take care of that. Also, our plan is to usually have the non-flying
>> pilot take care of the radios, talking to center, looking at weather and
>> navigating. The third display will make this a lot easier. The final
>> reason is that my father, and building partner, just turned 87. He
>> continues to fly and pass his medical and BFR every year. The only issue
>> is insurance. We have been told we will not be able to get any for him
>> without me or an instructor in the right seat. Those are the reasons for
>> my choice of a 3 display system.
>> While the size of the displays are not as large as the AFS or Dynon, they
>> fit very nicely in the panel. I attached my cad image with JPG files
>> overlaid on the panel.
>> Bill
>>
>> --------
>> Bill Peyton
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353512#353512
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/complete_panel_699.bmp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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