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1. 01:52 AM - Fw: Another possible cause (Reno) (Chris Hukill)
2. 05:33 AM - Re: Alternate Spinner (Gary Specketer)
3. 05:44 AM - Re: Alternate Spinner (Mike Whisky)
4. 07:21 AM - Re: Alternate Spinner (David)
5. 07:30 AM - Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH (AirMike)
6. 07:41 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH (Rick)
7. 07:42 AM - Painting SS Screws (jayb)
8. 07:48 AM - Re: Alternate Spinner (John Ackerman)
9. 08:10 AM - Re: Painting SS Screws (Tim Olson)
10. 08:17 AM - Re: Painting SS Screws (Pascal)
11. 08:17 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH (Marcus Cooper)
12. 08:30 AM - Re: Painting SS Screws (Bill Watson)
13. 08:37 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH (Michael Kraus)
14. 08:41 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH (Rick)
15. 08:49 AM - Re: Re: Alternate Spinner (Robin Marks)
16. 10:14 AM - Re: Re: Alternate Spinner (Michael Kraus)
17. 11:07 AM - Re: Re: Alternate Spinner (Robin Marks)
18. 01:18 PM - Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer (Mike Whisky)
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| Subject: | Fw: Another possible cause (Reno) |
From a friend who flies corporate jets for The Limited
Good News for the future of air racing.
Our new crew member, Matt Jackson, is not only a race pilot,
aircraft
business owner and aircraft owner (he also takes care of Tom
Cruises P-51)
but he is also the VP of the Unlimited Racing Class and head
of the Safety
Committee.
We had a long talk about the Reno crash on the way to Mojave
today.
Matt believes the cause of the crash was due to The Galloping
Ghost having a
CG too close to the aft limit which resulted in pitch
instability. There are
instructions on the P-51 regarding no combat missions with the
aft fuel tank
full resulting in an aft CG problem. Instructions specify to
empty the aft
fuel tank first in flight.
During qualifying Matt watched Galloping Ghost from inside the
cockpit of
Furias and could not believe how much trouble Leeward was
having in keeping
the Ghost in a stable pattern around the course.
Since Leeward lives in Florida and the Galloping Ghost was
modified for
racing in Calif., when Leeward picked up the Ghost for the
Reno races at the
last minute, a complete flight test program had not been done
based on
available information.
There is a video of the entire last lap of the Ghost before
the crash which
Matt showed me. As Leeward was coming around pylon #8 at about
480 mph after
passing Rare Bear, he hit turbulence which pitched his left
wing down,
Leeward corrected with hard right rudder and aileron. Just as
the aircraft
was straightening out, he hit a second mountain of turbulence
which caused
the tail to 'dig in' resulting in a 10+ G climb rendering
Leeward
unconscious instantly and resulted in the tail wheel falling
out. (broken
tail wheel support structure was found on the course). As the
Ghost shot
upward the LH elevator trim tab broke loose. This can be heard
on the tape,
so the trim tab did not cause the accident.
Since the Ghost was racing at 480 mph with full right rudder
and the stick
full right, this is where everything stayed when Leeward
blacked out.
Cockpit camera film that was salvaged from the wreck shows
Leeward slumped
over to the right in the cockpit. As a result, the Ghost
climbed up and to
the right, rolled over on her back and then headed for the box
seats. Most
in the box seats never saw it coming because it came in from
behind them.
Matt has had long conversations with the NTSB who call the
accident a
'fluke'. They are not going to recommend canceling future
races. He has also
talked to the insurance companies covering the races for Reno
and they also
say they are not going to cancel their coverage of future
races. Now we wait
for the FAA to make a decision.
Ironically, Matt bought box seats tickets for his good friends
who stayed
with him for a few days before the races. They were the
husband and wife who
were killed.
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate Spinner |
I am using an Aero Comsites spinner.
Gary Specketer
From: Robin Marks
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Alternate Spinner
Is anyone using a spinner other than the standard Vans spinner on the
Vans cowl for the -10?
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate Spinner |
Hi Robin
I use the HiGlo spinner from MT it's a chrome finish kevlar composite spinner
http://www.mt-propeller.com/en/entw/pro_spin.htm
Cheers
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate Spinner |
I have an MT propeller, so am using the MT spinner that comes with
the prop. MT makes them to fit the RV-10 cowl. Very nice spinner and
is ready for paint when it arrives. But, of course, you have to be
swinging the MT prop!
David Maib
40559
Flying
On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
> Is anyone using a spinner other than the standard Vans spinner on
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
I hope that the pilots are recovering ok. Any news out there how they are doing.
I hope the news is good. Let's all pray for full their full recovery.
A day does not go by without me thinking of them - hoping and praying for their
full recovery.
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See you OSH '12
Q/B - flying 2 yrs.
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
Write up this morning on VAF.
Rick
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On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:26 AM, "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote:
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| Subject: | Painting SS Screws |
I'm considering painting the stainless screws that hold the panel in place. Does
anything special need to be done to prep them for the paint to stick? I'm using
PPG auto paint if it matters.
Thanks,
Jay
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate Spinner |
Robin:
Those who have the Aerocomposites prop likely have the Aerocomposites
spinner. It's a thing of beauty.
I'm given to understand it is a standard Vans spinner modified at the
forward bulkhead with an integral support ring. Mine is a delight - it
runs perfectly true as well as I can tell. Easy to install- no fuss, no
muss.
John Ackerman
On Oct 3, 2011, at 7:34 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
> Is anyone using a spinner other than the standard Vans spinner on the
Vans cowl for the -10?
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| Subject: | Re: Painting SS Screws |
Just scuff them up and you should be OK painting them like normal.
it won't bond quite as well, but paint about 2x the number of screws
you really need, and just keep them handy so if you scratch one up
bad you can replace it. I've got lots of painted stainless screws
on mine and they aren't bad at all....better than the black oxide ones
that I used, that I still had to paint black. Next time I'll use
stainless of those too and paint them.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 10/4/2011 9:39 AM, jayb wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jayb"<jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
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> I'm considering painting the stainless screws that hold the panel in place. Does
anything special need to be done to prep them for the paint to stick? I'm
using PPG auto paint if it matters.
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> Jay
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| Subject: | Re: Painting SS Screws |
I did the following
320 sandpaper or scotchbrite.
clean
prime
paint
I recall Tim shows how she painted his screws on his site.
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From: jayb
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:39 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Painting SS Screws
I'm considering painting the stainless screws that hold the panel in place.
Does anything special need to be done to prep them for the paint to stick?
I'm using PPG auto paint if it matters.
Thanks,
Jay
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
No Joy on the article, do you have a link?
On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Rick wrote:
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Write up this morning on VAF.
Rick
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Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:26 AM, "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote:
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> I hope that the pilots are recovering ok. Any news out there how they are doing.
I hope the news is good. Let's all pray for full their full recovery.
> A day does not go by without me thinking of them - hoping and praying for their
full recovery.
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> Q/B - flying 2 yrs.
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| Subject: | Re: Painting SS Screws |
Haven't tried that yet but should work after a quick thinner wipe. It
works well with galvanized screws using Imron products
I had SS cap screws holding my panel but went to black - just bought
replacements from McMaster Carr. I assume you are using flat head SS
screws and I don't think you can buy them in black or colors.
Bill
On 10/4/2011 10:39 AM, jayb wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jayb"<jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
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> I'm considering painting the stainless screws that hold the panel in place. Does
anything special need to be done to prep them for the paint to stick? I'm
using PPG auto paint if it matters.
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> Jay
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=77171
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 4, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net> wrote:
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I hope the news is good. Let's all pray for full their full recovery.
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
www.vansairforce.net
It's in the front home page
Rick
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 4, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net> wrote:
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I hope the news is good. Let's all pray for full their full recovery.
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full recovery.
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate Spinner |
Interesting, do you have a photo of your spinner on your plane? Do you
recall the $.
Thanks,
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Whisky
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:43 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Alternate Spinner
Hi Robin
I use the HiGlo spinner from MT it's a chrome finish kevlar composite
spinner
http://www.mt-propeller.com/en/entw/pro_spin.htm
Cheers
Mike
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RV-10 builder (interior & finishing)
#511
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate Spinner |
I have one too, here is mine. It was like a $500 option, but it sure is pret
ty!!
-Mike K
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 4, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
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> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Whisky
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:43 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Alternate Spinner
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> Hi Robin
> I use the HiGlo spinner from MT it's a chrome finish kevlar composite
> spinner
> http://www.mt-propeller.com/en/entw/pro_spin.htm
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> Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate Spinner |
Nice!
Robin
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alternate Spinner
I have one too, here is mine. It was like a $500 option, but it sure is
pretty!!
-Mike K
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| Subject: | Re: 5inch before and after redcube fuel-transducer |
Hello all,
I thought Id post my solution of the position of the fuel flow sensor (red cube).
For those who are looking for an alternative position.
Mike
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