---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 10/09/11: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:59 AM - Prop ground clearance (johngoodman) 2. 11:42 AM - Re: Prop ground clearance (Marcus Cooper) 3. 05:35 PM - Re: Prop ground clearance (Roger Standley) 4. 09:51 PM - Re: Prop ground clearance (Seano) 5. 10:36 PM - Re: Prop ground clearance (Kelly McMullen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:10 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Prop ground clearance From: "johngoodman" Any suggestions on how to increase prop arc ground clearance? The obvious one is a smaller prop, or a 3 blade, but how about a larger nose tire, or a slightly longer WD-1016 nose gear link assembly where it joins WD-1017.... John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354450#354450 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:56 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop ground clearance From: Marcus Cooper John, I don't remember having read any issues that folks have had with prop clearance, but if you are facing bumpy terrain or maybe a lot of rocks I would recommend against adjusting the nose wheel or nose gear assembly. This would alter your sitting angle of attack and could result in getting airborne at a speed less than you would like. A small change might not be significant, but just something to consider. I suspect going with a 3 blade would be the safest course of action as you still have a known combination verses the other options. Marcus do not archive On Oct 9, 2011, at 1:56 PM, johngoodman wrote: Any suggestions on how to increase prop arc ground clearance? The obvious one is a smaller prop, or a 3 blade, but how about a larger nose tire, or a slightly longer WD-1016 nose gear link assembly where it joins WD-1017.... John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354450#354450 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:15 PM PST US From: "Roger Standley" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop ground clearance John, Do you have any vertical "play" in your nose gear? Vans calls for four J-11968-14 nose gear elastomers and they included a fifth one for later. At 300 hours, I have just a little vertical play. I have 8" clearance from prop (2 blade) to ground when nose tire is inflated to 42 lbs. At 7 1/2 " clearance I know the nose tire needs more air. I will add the fifth elastomer when I have more vertical play or I no longer have at least 8" clearance when the nose tire is properly inflated. Roger 40291 ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcus Cooper To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 11:40 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop ground clearance > John, I don't remember having read any issues that folks have had with prop clearance, but if you are facing bumpy terrain or maybe a lot of rocks I would recommend against adjusting the nose wheel or nose gear assembly. This would alter your sitting angle of attack and could result in getting airborne at a speed less than you would like. A small change might not be significant, but just something to consider. I suspect going with a 3 blade would be the safest course of action as you still have a known combination verses the other options. Marcus do not archive On Oct 9, 2011, at 1:56 PM, johngoodman wrote: > Any suggestions on how to increase prop arc ground clearance? The obvious one is a smaller prop, or a 3 blade, but how about a larger nose tire, or a slightly longer WD-1016 nose gear link assembly where it joins WD-1017.... John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354450#354450 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:21 PM PST US From: "Seano" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop ground clearance I used all of the supplied elastomers on my kit???? Can't remember how many off hand. I thought the extra aluminum washers were supplied for later when the elastomer gets a little worn in. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Standley To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 6:31 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop ground clearance John, Do you have any vertical "play" in your nose gear? Vans calls for four J-11968-14 nose gear elastomers and they included a fifth one for later. At 300 hours, I have just a little vertical play. I have 8" clearance from prop (2 blade) to ground when nose tire is inflated to 42 lbs. At 7 1/2 " clearance I know the nose tire needs more air. I will add the fifth elastomer when I have more vertical play or I no longer have at least 8" clearance when the nose tire is properly inflated. Roger 40291 ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcus Cooper To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 11:40 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop ground clearance John, I don't remember having read any issues that folks have had with prop clearance, but if you are facing bumpy terrain or maybe a lot of rocks I would recommend against adjusting the nose wheel or nose gear assembly. This would alter your sitting angle of attack and could result in getting airborne at a speed less than you would like. A small change might not be significant, but just something to consider. I suspect going with a 3 blade would be the safest course of action as you still have a known combination verses the other options. Marcus do not archive On Oct 9, 2011, at 1:56 PM, johngoodman wrote: Any suggestions on how to increase prop arc ground clearance? The obvious one is a smaller prop, or a 3 blade, but how about a larger nose tire, or a slightly longer WD-1016 nose gear link assembly where it joins WD-1017.... John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354450#354450 http://www.matronicp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ================ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:36:53 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop ground clearance My finish kit came with only 4 shock disks. I seriously doubt Van's would supply an extra. They now cost around $80-90 each, and they will never compress enough for you to install another. When you lose 1/2 inch in stack height, they are essentially worn out. You see, these are the exact same part number shock disks used on all three gear legs of a Mooney(3 on the nose, 4 on each main). At the weight of the short and intermediate older Mooneys they last 10-20 yrs. At the weight of the newest long body Mooneys they last 4-10 yrs. Difference is about 800 extra pounds on the newer models. My E model Mooney has empty wt of 1645 lbs, or slightly more than RV-10 empty, and has 52 gal fuel capacity, so its normal parked wt with full tanks is very comparable to an RV-10. I last changed shock disks in 1999, and they are still in good shape...no loss of stack height. The only supplier these days is Lord. Rapco used to make them, but theirs had reputation of not lasting as long, so didn't sell well, even though they were several bucks cheaper. On 10/9/2011 9:47 PM, Seano wrote: > I used all of the supplied elastomers on my kit???? Can't remember > how many off hand. I thought the extra aluminum washers were supplied > for later when the elastomer gets a little worn in. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Roger Standley > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Sunday, October 09, 2011 6:31 PM > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Prop ground clearance > > John, > Do you have any vertical "play" in your nose gear? Vans calls for > four J-11968-14 nose gear elastomers and they included a fifth one > for later. At 300 hours, I have just a little vertical play. I > have 8" clearance from prop (2 blade) to ground when nose tire is > inflated to 42 lbs. At 7 1/2 " clearance I know the nose tire > needs more air. I will add the fifth elastomer when I have more > vertical play or I no longer have at least 8" clearance when the > nose tire is properly inflated. > Roger > 40291 > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Marcus Cooper > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Sunday, October 09, 2011 11:40 AM > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Prop ground clearance > > > > > John, > I don't remember having read any issues that folks have had > with prop clearance, but if you are facing bumpy terrain or > maybe a lot of rocks I would recommend against adjusting the > nose wheel or nose gear assembly. This would alter your > sitting angle of attack and could result in getting airborne > at a speed less than you would like. A small change might not > be significant, but just something to consider. I suspect > going with a 3 blade would be the safest course of action as > you still have a known combination verses the other options. > > Marcus > > do not archive > On Oct 9, 2011, at 1:56 PM, johngoodman wrote: > > > > > Any suggestions on how to increase prop arc ground clearance? > > The obvious one is a smaller prop, or a 3 blade, but how about > a larger nose tire, or a slightly longer WD-1016 nose gear > link assembly where it joins WD-1017.... > > John > > -------- > #40572 Phase One complete and flying. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354450#354450 > > > http://www.matronicp; via the Web > title=http://forums.matronics.com/ > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > _p; generous bsp; > title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c================ > > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > > * > > > * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.